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Re: Why Can't A Country Just Keep Printing Money And Become Rich by Engineermbugame(m): 3:59pm On Jun 01, 2016
Hmmm,i learn alot here.dis thread is educated.
Re: Why Can't A Country Just Keep Printing Money And Become Rich by wacoj(m): 4:08pm On Jun 01, 2016
Engineermbugame:
Hmmm,i learn alot here.dis thread is educated.

Educative not educated!

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Re: Why Can't A Country Just Keep Printing Money And Become Rich by DajinDaho(m): 4:10pm On Jun 01, 2016
[quote author=suyamasta post=46170383] This can be done in a targetted manner! the cost of printing money is lesser than the value of money, the only problem is the fear of inflation! For example the government can print 1 trillion naira and specifically direct that amount towards payment of salaries and loans to productive sectors! in so doing money is paid for work done! thereby stimulating productivity!
So its a good economic practice if properly done! US did something similar and the ECB is doing something similar as well!
So if Baba Emefiele and co can do something similar with an excellent approach then unemployment can be drastically reduced![/you are worst than the op economically,in short since you can read try simple search into google qualities that anything should passed before being qualified to served as money,you will find out that most of them would be loss.
Re: Why Can't A Country Just Keep Printing Money And Become Rich by Nobody: 4:16pm On Jun 01, 2016
Too much money =inflation.
Too little money= deflation.

Babangida did print a lot of money in the past,which ruined naija economy,however money can be printed if they can manage it well,for the case of Nigeria where everything is imported,the cost of printing naira could be more expensive than the value of naira,so borrowing could be cheaper in some cases.
Re: Why Can't A Country Just Keep Printing Money And Become Rich by Nobody: 4:17pm On Jun 01, 2016
jjy:
What primary class are you?

Please Seun should put age limit to registration on nairaland as 13 years and above like Facebook.

You are as clueless as your name. Someone asked an intelligent questions u are here spewing dust.

I bet you don't even know the answer

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Re: Why Can't A Country Just Keep Printing Money And Become Rich by ayguru: 4:19pm On Jun 01, 2016
fiizznation:
The simple answer is inflation. The currency notes that we use don't have any intrinsic value, rather the have exchange value. Which means 50naira doesn't mean its value is 50naira but you can exchange it for goods and services. A country like Zimbabwe couldn't understand this simple economics and they went ahead to produce more and more currencies, at the end what still happened? Well even a pen ended up costing thousands of Zimbabwe dollars and a bread was sold for as high as $2million{Zimbabwe dollars}. Their inflation rate rise to about 80 billion percent. Funny.

And everybody in Zimbabwe instantly became a billionaire{ poor billionaires}


Bro, how will you explain the exchange rate of one naira equals to 1.8 Zimbabwean dollars?

Re: Why Can't A Country Just Keep Printing Money And Become Rich by Truth234(m): 4:30pm On Jun 01, 2016
Serenity008:


You are as clueless as your name. Someone asked an intelligent questions u are here spewing dust.

I bet you don't even know the answer

Thank you, I learn a lot from this thread. From people that do not know but think they know, from those that now think they know after going through this thread, and also from those that thinks their basic economics is all they need to respond to this question. Also I learn a lot from the OP that know he does not know and crave knowledge, but castigated by those that do not know but are limited by their own understanding.

Learn, Unlearn and Relearn.

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Re: Why Can't A Country Just Keep Printing Money And Become Rich by fiizznation: 4:37pm On Jun 01, 2016
ayguru:
Bro, how will you explain the exchange rate of one naira equals to 1.8 Zimbabwean dollars?
I used Zimbabwe as an example because two or three years ago, their dollars was almost valueless. Don't forget, I said 3yrs ago or so. Now I don't know how strong their dollar is. Maybe some kind of conversion happened, I don't have any knowledge on that
Re: Why Can't A Country Just Keep Printing Money And Become Rich by billyG(m): 4:38pm On Jun 01, 2016
Dullard abound in NL,shld hav ask y not d govt. print dollars$?
Re: Why Can't A Country Just Keep Printing Money And Become Rich by Richie77: 4:43pm On Jun 01, 2016
Money must be relatively scarce. If not scarce, inflation will set in.
Re: Why Can't A Country Just Keep Printing Money And Become Rich by Nobody: 4:44pm On Jun 01, 2016
That is exactly what United states is doin...but they seem to be the only country with such capacity because there currency is the world business currency. US economy owe 19 trillion dollar convert that to naira, yet their bank lending rate and inflation is below 5%... who they owe the $19 trillion? na wayo...

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Re: Why Can't A Country Just Keep Printing Money And Become Rich by Truth234(m): 4:48pm On Jun 01, 2016
ayguru:
Bro, how will you explain the exchange rate of one naira equals to 1.8 Zimbabwean dollars?

It was officially abandoned since 2009 and demonetized in 2015. So it is not a legal tender any more, that website needs to update its system.
Re: Why Can't A Country Just Keep Printing Money And Become Rich by fiizznation: 4:52pm On Jun 01, 2016
bookface:


You are missing the point. My explanation is that yes, printing money to make every Nigeria a billionaire will cause hyperinflation....but printing money will not always equal inflation. Two different things.
My bro I get your point and I understand were you are driving at, but my first comment here was a direct response to the question the op asked; which was why won't the government print more money so that every citizen of the country can become rich.
Re: Why Can't A Country Just Keep Printing Money And Become Rich by oglalasioux(m): 4:53pm On Jun 01, 2016
mrvitalis:

What if the money is printed and given to people as loan to start up production of things heat can be exported??

Will you buy the raw materials for production with your naira or with the supplier's money? That's the trick. Government uses local money to distribute goods and services. In Nigeria 90% of everything is imported. We can't buy in naira but dollars. When it gets here we buy in naira which government has to source for dollars to import more.

So, if Nigeria prints money and distributes to everyone, two much naira will be chasing too few goods and the economy will collapse due to inflation. Government therefore rations goods and services by printing fewer naira.
Re: Why Can't A Country Just Keep Printing Money And Become Rich by fiizznation: 4:58pm On Jun 01, 2016
Truth234:


It was officially abandoned since 2009 and demonetized in 2015. So it is not a legal tender any more, that website needs to update its system.
Which is not Zimbabwe legal tender any more, the Zimbabwe dollars or what? I don't get
Re: Why Can't A Country Just Keep Printing Money And Become Rich by knowyaself3: 5:01pm On Jun 01, 2016
bookface:


Printing money will not always result in inflation. Although it is the conventional wisdom, it is not always the case.

The conventional wisdom is based on the simple equation MV = PY where M is the supply of money, V is the velocity of money, P is prices and Y is the total quantity of goods.

The conventional wisdom that printing money simply increases inflation assumes that if M is increased, all other things being constant, then P should increase.

But all other things shouldn't have to be constant. For example, if printing money leads to more quantity of goods, prices could actually fall.

Furthermore, the argument is nonsense that more money supply equals higher inflation. Everyday a bank creates a loan, it is basically increasing the money supply out of thin air, which may not necessarily lead to inflation.

Finally, think about this...suppose the central bank prints out 10 billion naira notes today, and they leave it in the vault...would it cause inflation?

The answer is no

[/b]Suppose, the CBN choose to give the 10 billion notes to just 10 people, would this cause inflation? The answer is no! hence the role of the velocity of money[b].

EDIT: That said, you are correct, printing money to make all Nigerians billionaires will result in hyperinflation.

The answer is no only if the 10 people keep the 10 billion in their bedrooms and not spend it. So long as they end up spending the money on goods and services, the money in circulation will increase, and you would have a case of too much money chasing few goods which causes inflation, if there's no corresponding increase in the supply of goods and services.

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Re: Why Can't A Country Just Keep Printing Money And Become Rich by kvngveektour(m): 5:04pm On Jun 01, 2016
The money get value b4
Davinex:
Inflation will be oqn the rise and the currency will lose it value.
Re: Why Can't A Country Just Keep Printing Money And Become Rich by Truth234(m): 5:07pm On Jun 01, 2016
fiizznation:
Which is not Zimbabwe legal tender any more, the Zimbabwe dollars or what? I don't get

Zimbabwe now use the US dollar, South Africa Rand, Bostwana Pula, Pound, Aussie Dollar, Japanese Yen and the new one is the Chinese Yuan. There is nothing like Zimbabwe dollar again, people just like to talk about it because of the negativity it generated to mock Mugabe.
Re: Why Can't A Country Just Keep Printing Money And Become Rich by fiizznation: 5:15pm On Jun 01, 2016
Truth234:


Zimbabwe now use the US dollar, South Africa Rand, Bostwana Pula, Pound, Aussie Dollar, Japanese Yen and the new one is the Chinese Yuan. There is nothing like Zimbabwe dollar again, people just like to talk about it because of the negativity it generated to mock Mugabe.
Thanks a lot for the enlightenment. Now I guess I know better

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Re: Why Can't A Country Just Keep Printing Money And Become Rich by suyamasta(m): 5:29pm On Jun 01, 2016
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Re: Why Can't A Country Just Keep Printing Money And Become Rich by mrvitalis(m): 5:30pm On Jun 01, 2016
oglalasioux:


Will you buy the raw materials for production with your naira or with the supplier's money? That's the trick. Government uses local money to distribute goods and services. In Nigeria 90% of everything is imported. We can't buy in naira but dollars. When it gets here we buy in naira which government has to source for dollars to import more.

So, if Nigeria prints money and distributes to everyone, two much naira will be chasing too few goods and the economy will collapse due to inflation. Government therefore rations goods and services by printing fewer naira.
There are goods we can export that we can produce 100% with local raw material

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Re: Why Can't A Country Just Keep Printing Money And Become Rich by suyamasta(m): 5:33pm On Jun 01, 2016
basingstoke:
Because the cost of Printing quality money is more than the money itself. However, too much money WITHOUT goods and services leads to inflation, Zimbabwe is an example
No thats not true the cost of printing money is lower than the value of money, if not na cowry we go still dey use now na!

https://www.nairaland.com/3027710/see-how-much-it-cost
Re: Why Can't A Country Just Keep Printing Money And Become Rich by Missy89(f): 5:43pm On Jun 01, 2016
scully95:
Where is missy89 (olodo of the 21st century) that said a country can just be printing money anyhow ?

When you back the anglozionist empire blindly, this is what happens. The U.S has been priting money and nothing is backing the money except war with less armed countries. At least war is backing it and what does it do. Regime change in countries that go against dollar. Well, Russia is finally setting up a final answer to all the regime changes.. So nothing will be backing the dieing Fiat dollar.

Dollar can only survive in a one world order which CHina and Russia is Challenging and will eventually win. All the systems using dollar will default with the U.S dollar. Nigeria needs to change the petro-dollar on time before it's too late.

The anglozionist empire is going down and petro-dollar is also going down.



Sorry i dont have time for you stup1dity this month. Still waiting for you to name one country that is backing their printed money up with something. Will you ever answer the question?
Re: Why Can't A Country Just Keep Printing Money And Become Rich by oglalasioux(m): 5:45pm On Jun 01, 2016
mrvitalis:

There are goods we can export that we can produce 100% with local raw material

Your idea is good but can't work in reality. What is the money you spend everyday? It's just a promissory note. It means you are promising to pay because the value of the paper money is at the Central Bank in gold. The Central Bank can only print money worth the gold it has. What if we all demand our naira worth of gold (the real money) and the central bank actually has less than what is in circulation? That's exactly what happened to USA during the Bush administration.

The USA actually has more paper money than the gold at Fort Knox. China (which supposedly owns much of the gold) decided to keep quiet because it would have practically been the end of the world.

Research more about money and you'll be the first to panic if government wants to distribute money to everyone without the goods and services to back it up.
Re: Why Can't A Country Just Keep Printing Money And Become Rich by Nobody: 6:26pm On Jun 01, 2016
Wow Zimbabwe. I never knew that about their economic situation. That's what happens when the people at the helm of affairs no go school
Re: Why Can't A Country Just Keep Printing Money And Become Rich by teemy(m): 6:29pm On Jun 01, 2016
Consider the case of the United States. Let’s suppose the United States decides to increase the money supply by mailing every man, woman, and child an envelope full of money. What would people do with that money? Some of that money will be saved, some might go toward paying off debt like mortgages and credit cards, but most of it will be spent. I know the first thing I’d do is go down to Walmart and buy an Xbox or PlayStation 2 (if you have an opinion of which I should buy e-mail me by using the feedback form).

I’m not going to be the only one who runs out to buy an Xbox. This presents a problem for Walmart. Do they keep their prices the same and not have enough Xboxes to sell to everyone who wants one, or do they raise their prices?

The obvious decision would be to raise their prices. If Walmart (along with everyone else) decides to raise their prices right away, we would have massive inflation, and our money is now devalued. Since we’re trying to argue this won’t happen, we’ll suppose that Walmart and the other retailers don’t increase the price of Xboxes. For the price of Xboxes to hold steady, the supply of Xboxes will have to meet this added demand. If there are shortages, certainly the price will rise, as consumers who are denied an Xbox will offer to pay a price well in excess of what Walmart was formerly charging.

http://economics.about.com/cs/money/a/print_money.htm


Suppose an economy produces £10 million worth of goods. e.g. 1 million books at £10 each.
If the government doubled the money supply, we would still have 1 million books but people have more money. Demand for books would rise and firms would push up prices.
The most likely scenario is that if money supply was doubled. we would have 1 million books sold at £20. The economy is now worth £20 million rather than £10 million. But, the number of goods is exactly the same.
We can say that the increase in GDP is a money illusion. – True you have more money, but if everything is more expensive, you are not any better off.
In this simple model, printing more money has made goods more expensive, but hasn’t change the quantity of goods.

http://www.economicshelp.org/blog/634/economics/the-problem-with-printing-money/

In the days of Idi Amin, Uganda took the risk of printing new money to bail that country’s economy out of the doldrums. The exercise backfired so catastrophically, it has taken Museveni over two decades to right the disastrous consequences.

Robert Mugabe’s Zimbabwe is still stewing in the fire of economic wreckage which was exacerbated by the decision of that country’s Central Bank to print new money for the economy to bounce back. Each time Zimbabwe printed new money, the country’s currency drops in value. Today the Zimbabwean dollar can buy nothing anywhere in the world except in bales of the currency to buy a hamburger.
- See more at: http://www.vanguardngr.com/2009/09/printing-more-money-can-backfire/#sthash.OLmeLTW5.dpuf

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2009/09/printing-more-money-can-backfire/

Everyone in Zimbabwe during its hyperinflation were under severe pressure unlike anything they had ever experienced. The government had increasingly turned to rampant money printing as a funding alternative and as this newly printed money made its way into the markets prices began to rapidly rise.

As inflation skyrocketed, it placed unique pressures on businesses – revenue that companies made couldn’t compensate for the cost of restocking more expensive supplies later. This margin pressure is common in high inflation environments: the net result was that businesses began to close down. By 2006, all stores had emptied. Prices hurtled higher due to an even greater scarcity of goods and society morphed into a barter economy.

http://www.moneyweb.co.za/uncategorized/the-zimbabwe-lesson-dont-print-money/

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Re: Why Can't A Country Just Keep Printing Money And Become Rich by Puresolutions: 6:53pm On Jun 01, 2016
I was banned for till tommorrow i'm suprised i'm off the hook.

Thanks @ Truth234

Alot of people quote text principles as absolutes... Chinese had been printing currencies well into 10years ago to shock their economy,assets purchase etc.an like i stated earlier too many folks are confusing it...Physical money is a promise not an actuval value.The real value is resource,potential and productivity,this means if you have your name on your dad's will and he died and the will would be read and wealth shared in a month's time..Within now and then you can go and take loan..equivalent to the total sum of the share of this will...

So yes Nigeria can print money and back it up... to very high amounts

How do we do this ?

Example : The Niger Delta has a potential of 76 Trillion Cubic feet in gas reserves i explained this tentaively earlier this year to people.Now Bulgaria Ukraine all have refused Russia to construct pipes for more gas delivery into EU,Why can't be capitalise on it...Don't forget In order not to upset Russia countries like U.A.E told Germany they won't be a sub to Russia

Simple 76 Trillion feet extraction over 100 years equivalent a sum....negotiate a buy deal from Germany ( Germany came to Nigeria during OBJ's era 0ver and over in search of a deal for our gas supplies which is yet to be enacted ) using this deal alone in the media is actual money because like i said earlier.money is promisory value and not the note...if you do this the nation has 1.good will 1.attention to drive in more investors 3. immediate cash to deal with current challenges


2. Countries like Ghana Benin up to Ivory Coast need Gas for power production which we are flaring erroneously.capture the domestic ECOWAS region in terms of GAS supply balance the $3bn per month deficit the country is currently experiencing with foreign exchange..if the pressure from FOREX is limited and brought down by productivity my brother print money....inject the money thru QQE alot of people think central banks don't print money na lie.... Countries do but they say one thing on TV and then go home and print...
..Did you guys not hear several times while we were growing up that some people printed monies but on the way here was intercepted by the Customs,now would you bet for one stopped 100 came into the country ? Did it kill the country.


Economics is two ways the rules are not meant to keep you out but intelligently broken..

Japan
USA
I want to know a major country that hasn't been printing country of late....

You can print money ( or call it borrow money ) to the tune of your power to repay and inject it rather than into individual but institution but in a country where we hardly have any working mega institute other than political parties...

abeg too much English that's why they say Nigeri run a casion economy.

if i were the president i would focus on this rather than pursue tompolo

I did my projections 100,000 hectares of land productivity is enough to produce about 20B monthly
Add Ocean to it as uncle Kimi kept mentioning Ocean economy and when we that understood him supported him we were thrown stones.
Just land and water resources alone of the size of 100,000hectares gives 20b monthly imagine how much our potential would be if we embraced productivity.

By the way to sum my post up the commissiooner for Agriculture iin Kwara earlier this year released an info that shocked me.He said Kwara had over 1.1Million hectares of farmland which means if 1million hectares is used productively we can get a potential return of 20b x 100 = 2Trillion Monthly..

Any i just babling okay let me break it down further

Land for agric

Agric for :

1. FOOD

2. MEDICINE

3. CHEMICALS

4. WOOD

5. TEXTILES from slik to linen to cotton to polyester

Nigeria embrace resource control and stop killing yourself...Nigeria tell yourselves the truth and leave minting money alone...

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Re: Why Can't A Country Just Keep Printing Money And Become Rich by mrvitalis(m): 6:55pm On Jun 01, 2016
oglalasioux:


Your idea is good but can't work in reality. What is the money you spend everyday? It's just a promissory note. It means you are promising to pay because the value of the paper money is at the Central Bank in gold. The Central Bank can only print money worth the gold it has. What if we all demand our naira worth of gold (the real money) and the central bank actually has less than what is in circulation? That's exactly what happened to USA during the Bush administration.

The USA actually has more paper money than the gold at Fort Knox. China (which supposedly owns much of the gold) decided to keep quiet because it would have practically been the end of the world.

Research more about money and you'll be the first to panic if government wants to distribute money to everyone without the goods and services to back it up.
Then we use our population to mine more gold and save that in the central bank then print more money as loan
Re: Why Can't A Country Just Keep Printing Money And Become Rich by Kseafresh: 7:13pm On Jun 01, 2016
theEYe21:
See this olodo! grin
bad belle!..wetin u know.
Re: Why Can't A Country Just Keep Printing Money And Become Rich by scully95: 7:48pm On Jun 01, 2016
Missy89:



Sorry i dont have time for you stup1dity this month. Still waiting for you to name one country that is backing their printed money up with something. Will you ever answer the question?

i have answered your f00lish question several times. i don't have time to copy and paste it again. This crook is still even saying the same thing.. lobatan..

Any country can just be printing money anyhow without anything back it ?? olodo of the 21st century ni e se.

you are too low honestly and it's the reason i will continue to counter you anglozionist, mere toilet paid troll set out to distaught public opinion particularly on NL.

He's here still saying the same thing that any country can just be priting money any how.

Chai..
Re: Why Can't A Country Just Keep Printing Money And Become Rich by Vicsean: 7:49pm On Jun 01, 2016
How abt a situation whr the Government prints money just for infrastructural development? e.g building residential houses for civil servants to be occupied for free or mayb making more roads.

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Re: Why Can't A Country Just Keep Printing Money And Become Rich by Missy89(f): 7:51pm On Jun 01, 2016
scully95:


i have answered your f00lish question several times. i don't have time to copy and paste it again. This crook is still even saying the same thing.. lobatan..

Any country can just be printing money anyhow without anything back it ?? olodo of the 21st century ni e se.

you are too low honestly and it's the reason i will continue to counter you anglozionist, mere toilet paid troll set out to distaught public opinion particularly on NL.

He's here still saying the same thing that any country can just be priting money any how.

Chai..


Name on country or have a good day.

I am not interested in stories

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