KolaShangOne:


It's more burdensome to use 2x2 for fascia. What you gain in cost, you lose in labour charges. Besides, 2x2 are not hardwood per say. They are malleable wood and not as heavy as the hard woods. They are suspended from the tie beams using little 1foot struts so we don't need them to be heavy.
Bottom line, they warp if exposed for too long.

It's also neater using 1x12 boards and much more easier to maintain and to nail aluminium cladding on.

My request above was not about the Fascia issue.... it is about wood Noggins for the entire roof.

"Hardwoods" that are "comparatively light" in weight, to other hardwoods (in whatever size you cut them to).

Kolashangone: I buy the wood in bulk then cut into desires sizes. This method helps to save cost and also helps to ensure that sizes are accurate.

For example, when you buy a 2x4 already cut wood in the market, its usually 1.5 x 3.5 or 1.8 x 3.8.. I know this trick cos we kinda grew up with it.
But not everyone has time to go through this buying and cutting stress..

I also wanted to ask: Since you sawed your roofing wood yourself (to save cost),did you have to buy a LOG of wood (Tree size), a certain size of wood or what? ....and at what cost.
https://www.nairaland.com/2564740/budget-roofing-finishes-nairalanders-2units


As to the fascia, l am referring to using 2x2 (hardwood) at the EDGES only (where l highlighted in yellow colour).... in place of a continuous flat board.
Truly as you said, it will require more craftmanship-effort (burdensome ) but l am looking at the "weight advantage" if one can surmount the "burden disadvantage".


Thanks you.




Lastpage!

@ KolaShangOne,

BLH is done with the new plan. It's already with me. Send me your email for a serious business.

Or shoot me a mail at bosun@nexthomebuilders.com for the necessary docs.

Load Test | Stone-dust (CGF) block vs Sharp Sand Block

@ msogunro,

At 200kg (1.96kN) both blocks survived the load test.

I wanna do more. I'll drive a pickup on both.

With present high cost of local steel I will advice you buy Tiger steel difference is just 8k.

It met test, Eng. Aventure can enlight you more

n3xt:
Load Test

@ msogunro,

At 200kg (1.96kN) both blocks survived the load test.

I wanna do more. I'll drive a pickup on both.

Brabus, is this ur block making?

n3xt:
Load Test | Stone-dust (CGF) block vs Sharp Sand Block

@ msogunro,

At 200kg (1.96kN) both blocks survived the load test.

I wanna do more. I'll drive a pickup on both.

Nice, but you will need a lot more weight than 4 bags. If either of them failed that test, the maker should be jailed.

Chekitaut:
With present high cost of local steel I will advice you buy Tiger steel difference is just 8k.

It met test, Eng. Aventure can enlight you more

So what's the Price now? I understand it has dropped lately

Chekitaut:
With present high cost of local steel I will advice you buy Tiger steel difference is just 8k.

It met test, Eng. Aventure can enlight you more

So what's the Price now? I understand it has dropped lately.......

msogunro:


Nice, but you will need a lot more weight than 4 bags. If either of them failed that test, the maker should be jailed.

And both blocks are not the same size so the test was faulty from the beginning.

But wetin concern me

Is it possible to get a block wall this neat in Nigeria?

My floor plan is complete and we're now working on interior and exterior details. In some interior and exterior areas of the house I would like to leave the blocks exposed so that they can be painted.

Any reasons why there shouldn't be exposed block walls in Nigeria?

Pic 1: Exposed block wall

Pic 2: Painted block wall.

Pic 3. Painted block wall.

I want to treat some areas in and outside my house like pic 2 & 3. I suspect this will also save some funds because plastering i's eliminated from certain areas.

lastpage:

In my own humble opinion, l think most of the "seemingly over-build" we do is as a result poor strength of our moulded blocks such that they cannot carry anything more than a head-pan of sand!
Lastpage!

Agreed with you Boss. If you compare the blocks here in USA to that of Naija, you go laugh. The quality is totally different like day and night.
We want to cut corners in everything.

Hajji M.

Brabus I envy you o. You seems to have all the time in the world to do online presentations and arguments but then how much time do you spend on site daily to supervise and concentrate on your projects so as to avoid costly mistakes?


Just thinking out loud here....

EgunMogaji:


I'm in the back seat on my current build so I go along with my builder. The build would be different if I was in Nigeria and directly supervising.

What you describe is how we build retaining walls here and yes I would employ that method to build.

Another cost saving method I think about is slab foundation. I see no good reason why I couldn't have done a slab foundation on my build once a retaining wall was constructed.

this is the foundation to jankande building at mile2.

msogunro:
Is it possible to get a block wall this neat in Nigeria?

My floor plan is complete and we're now working on interior and exterior details. In some interior and exterior areas of the house I would like to leave the blocks exposed so that they can be painted.

Any reasons why there shouldn't be exposed block walls in Nigeria?

Pic 1: Exposed block wall

Pic 2: Painted block wall.

Pic 3. Painted block wall.

I want to treat some areas in and outside my house like pic 2 & 3. I suspect this will also save some funds because plastering i's eliminated from certain areas.

I like the idea too and I was going to do the same but the way they set blocks in Nigeria is different from how they do it in Nigeria. If you paint the walls without plastering in Nigeria, you are in for a shock.

Those blocks in the picture are different from the ones available in Nigeria.

msogunro:
Is it possible to get a block wall this neat in Nigeria?

My floor plan is complete and we're now working on interior and exterior details. In some interior and exterior areas of the house I would like to leave the blocks exposed so that they can be painted.

Any reasons why there shouldn't be exposed block walls in Nigeria?

Pic 1: Exposed block wall

Pic 2: Painted block wall.

Pic 3. Painted block wall.

I want to treat some areas in and outside my house like pic 2 & 3. I suspect this will also save some funds because plastering i's eliminated from certain areas.

This is impossible in Nigeria.

Any builder that says otherwise should post pictures of his actual block setting. Not some fictitious foreign company's work

I went down this path and was completely frustrated.

The only was you can come close is poured concrete wall and you can then stencil block work pattern on it.

FastShipping:


I like the idea too and I was going to do the same but the way they set blocks in Nigeria is different from how they do it in Nigeria. If you paint the walls without plastering in Nigeria, you are in for a shock.

Those blocks in the picture are different from the ones available in Nigeria.

Not the answer I was hoping for, but if it is just the way the blocks are set I believe there is a solution.

We're considering buying concrete block spacers. 3k -4K spacers can be purchased inexpensively.

Of course, the exposed blocks will be treated and the painted walls will get a layer of the appropriate primer.

EgunMogaji:


This is impossible in Nigeria.

Any builder that says otherwise should post pictures of his actual block setting. Not some fictitious foreign company's work

I went down this path and was completely frustrated.

The only was you can come close is poured concrete wall and you can then stencil block work pattern on it.

Damn. That is dissapointing. Really dissapointing.

KolaShangOne:

Many people owe. Some never pay again. That's why one has to be careful before doing a job.
I also used to do delivery of materials and even start work before any payment just to put clients mind at rest.
But they will owe you and won't pay.
Some will owe you for years and will pay you later when the time value of money has reduced so you're at a loss.
I'm sure all the business people here have different stories but we always keep shut.

I have had to deal with several Suppliers and Clients on this type of issue. You are definitely right.
Why should a Client want you to supply goods or services without having money to pay for it?
Why will an artisan agreed to do a work for a Client and the cost is agreed upon, then for the
Client turning around and try to renegotiate the cost when the artisan has already finished the work.
We all have to be fair in everything we do in life, both the Clients, Suppliers, Artisans alike.
My little "Word of wisdom".

Hajji M.

Stone-dust (CGF) Block vs Sharp Sand Block


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HDpvuOS3uc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JHiR19NRy4


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OO09dGep9ys


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWF3UtPv6-A

msogunro:


Damn. That is dissapointing. Really dissapointing.

I'll even up the anti by betting $100 to any Nairaland builder that can show with absolute proof that they did it.

#EnoughFor3MonthlyPayments

msogunro:


Not the answer I was hoping for, but if it is just the way the blocks are set I believe there is a solution.

We're considering buying concrete block spacers. 3k -4K spacers can be purchased inexpensively.

Of course, the exposed blocks will be treated and the painted walls will get a layer of the appropriate primer.

Almost no two blocks are the same dimensionally

EgunMogaji:


Almost no two blocks are the same dimensionally

May be true, but the difference in size isn't significant. The blocks are made using moulds so they should be very, very close.

To notice the difference in size would require close examination.

segcymoor:

So what's the Price now? I understand it has dropped lately.......

Tiger =N140,000

msogunro:


May be true, but the difference in size isn't significant. The blocks are made using moulds so they should be very, very close.

To notice the difference in size would require close examination.

Excellent.

Please share sample walls when you have it up.

EgunMogaji:


I'll even up the anti by betting $100 to any Nairaland builder that can show with absolute proof that they did it.

#EnoughFor3MonthlyPayments

msogunro:

May be true, but the difference in size isn't significant. The blocks are made using moulds so they should be very, very close.
To notice the difference in size would require close examination.

msogunro:

Not the answer I was hoping for, but if it is just the way the blocks are set I believe there is a solution.
We're considering buying concrete block spacers. 3k -4K spacers can be purchased inexpensively.
Of course, the exposed blocks will be treated and the painted walls will get a layer of the appropriate primer.

I am enjoying this discussion.
I will be watching for you guys to show us the way in your various builds. Why should we have you guys that had gone out and seen it all only to allow the "Nigerian factor" to bend you like it did us.
I will bet $101 that none of you will be willing to try the bare wall in your house

#importthespacers

Na joke we dey o.

spyder880:






I am enjoying this discussion.
I will be watching for you guys to show us the way in your various builds. Why should we have you guys that had gone out and seen it all only to allow the "Nigerian factor" to bend you like it did us.
I will bet $101 that none of you will be willing to try the bare wall in your house

#importthespacers

Na joke we dey o.

1) My Chief, I hail and always loyal. Anything dey for ground for your boy?

2) You, Sir, are the leading edge builders. Why should you leave innovation to us when you are the seasoned builder? Respectfully asked Sir.

3) Show us on a future build #ThePossible and #IamReady

CGF Block vs Sharp Sand Block

It'll be very unfair to compare the strength of the two types (stone-dust and sharp sand) of block.
We eventually drove a truck on the CGF and it did not break.

Test continues tomorrow when we will be comparing the strength of CGF Hollowed Core Blocks vs Sharp Sand Non-Hollowed Blocks.

It'll be worthwhile to do carry out Resistance test on the CGF Hollowed Core Blocks and Sharp Sand Non-Hollowed Blocks.



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^{But $100 cannot buy a shotgun. Where's my pneumatic gun? #TestContinues}

U mean u drove truck on a block or concrete. ?. That one can't be describe as block but rather concrete.

spyder880:






I am enjoying this discussion.
I will be watching for you guys to show us the way in your various builds. Why should we have you guys that had gone out and seen it all only to allow the "Nigerian factor" to bend you like it did us.
I will bet $101 that none of you will be willing to try the bare wall in your house

#importthespacers

Na joke we dey o.

Your opinion is highly appreciated. If you have nuggets of knowledge to share with us about anything discussed, please feel free to contribute. With the way I see people hailing you left and right on this site, I expected you to chime in with something more substantive than "#importthespacers".

Is it possible to build a wall as neatly as this picture below? Any reason why block walls shouldn't be painted in Nigeria?

Patiently waiting for your response, boss.

@ abdulwatecx i will start from you . Sir what part of Yoruba are you from ? Ekiti state ?

segcymoor:
U mean u drove truck on a block or concrete. ?. That one can't be describe as block but rather concrete.

The hardwood broke when we carried out the first test. The 2nd test was done later this evening. The same block still refused to die regardless.

#TestContinuesTmrw

@egunmojaji. Is it every issue you will call my name . You will send azuh to unclad all time . Abeg oh . You nor know who be witch or wizard for here . Na small thing dey provoke them . They might be interested to know me .