MossadAgent:
Today, the Armenians have their own state and nation.


Today, Turkey is 100% Muslim.

If anyone tells you that no one can Islamize Nigeria then that person is highly deluded.


Jihad is just the first step to colonizing and conquering . This they have done effectively in the north and middle belt and are currently asserting their terror grip once more with groups like boko haram in the Christian NE and Fulani jihadist in the middle belt.


The next step is to make sharia law supreme which they are doing silently in the national assembly.


Once that becomes successful then as a non Muslim you automatically become a 2nd tier citizen and your rights denied.

You will not be allowed to serve in the military which to a large extent they have already achieved.

You will pay more taxes and your land becomes that of the Muslim state - grazing bill, more taxes for the Christian south to subsidize the almajiri north and your resources their exclusive rights. Even your women are spoils of war .


It is just a matter of time.

Qualer:



shut up! your argument is invalid! cos, he is saying the truth, go and read up on some historical and geographical research and beef up your knowledge before coming to a public forum to exhibit your aloofness! thank me later!

hakimmiyya:


Intellectual fraudster please show me where in the new testament were Jesus support repraisal attack? Your Jesus showed you a good example of what to do if anyone attacks you Christians by healing man whose hear was cut off by an infidel. He did not encourage reprisal attack but here you are supporting your fellow silly bigot on reprisal attack.
Why can't you practice what your master Jesus teaches you (forgiveness)if you are true Christians?
I ask you again tell us why the Christians killed half a million innocent Muslims children,women and the unborn children in the womb in Jerusalem centuries ago?Did Jesus instruct you to do that?
Crazy hypocrites.

hakimmiyya:


You have gone along way to confirm that you are the silly bigot I called you.you claimed that the thousands of Muslims killed by your crusaders was a reprisal attack but what you claimed that happened In turkey was not reprisal attack. You can see the ethnocentric attitude in you. You are nothing but a pure hypocrite.

hakimmiyya:


Intellectual fraudster please show me where in the new testament were Jesus support repraisal attack? Your Jesus showed you a good example of what to do if anyone attacks you Christians by healing man whose hear was cut off by an infidel. He did not encourage reprisal attack but here you are supporting your fellow silly bigot on reprisal attack.
Why can't you practice what your master Jesus teaches you (forgiveness)if you are true Christians?
I ask you again tell us why the Christians killed half a million innocent Muslims children,women and the unborn children in the womb in Jerusalem centuries ago?Did Jesus instruct you to do that?
Crazy hypocrites.

pacretus:
islamabad,whats with this your half a million muslim tale.be precise with numbers.
U even went as far as saying 5 million muslims were either killed or exiled.so my question is,how many were killed and how many were exiled.
Cos 0 could be killed and 5,000,000 exiled.

pacretus:
islamabad,whats with this your half a million muslim tale.be precise with numbers.
U even went as far as saying 5 million muslims were either killed or exiled.so my question is,how many were killed and how many were exiled.
Cos 0 could be killed and 5,000,000 exiled.

hakimmiyya:





[s]How many people have died in the name of Christ, Christianity and Catholicism?

VICTIMS OF THE CHRISTIAN FAITH

by Kelsos

Victim of Christianity/Catholicism being tortured


"WONDERFUL EVENTS THAT TESTIFY TO GOD'S DIVINE GLORY"


Listed are only events that solely occurred on command of church authorities or were committed in the name of Christianity. (List incomplete)



Ancient Pagans

• As soon as Christianity was legal (315), more and more pagan temples were destroyed by Christian mob. Pagan priests were killed.


• Between 315 and 6th century thousands of pagan believers were slain.


• Examples of destroyed Temples: the Sanctuary of Aesculap in Aegaea, the Temple of Aphrodite in Golgatha, Aphaka in Lebanon, the Heliopolis.


• Christian priests such as Mark of Arethusa or Cyrill of Heliopolis were famous as "temple destroyer." [DA468]


• Pagan services became punishable by death in 356. [DA468]


• Christian Emperor Theodosius (408-450) even had children executed, because they had been playing with remains of pagan statues. [DA469]
According to Christian chroniclers he "followed meticulously all Christian teachings..."


• In 6th century pagans were declared void of all rights.


• In the early fourth century the philosopher Sopatros was executed on demand of Christian authorities. [DA466]


• The world famous female philosopher Hypatia of Alexandria was torn to pieces with glass fragments by a hysterical Christian mob led by a Christian minister named Peter, in a church, in 415.
[DO19-25]




Mission

• Emperor Karl (Charlemagne) in 782 had 4500 Saxons, unwilling to convert to Christianity, beheaded. [DO30]


• Peasants of Steding (Germany) unwilling to pay suffocating church taxes: between 5,000 and 11,000 men, women and children slain 5/27/1234 near Altenesch/Germany. [WW223]


• Battle of Belgrad 1456: 80,000 Turks slaughtered. [DO235]


• 15th century Poland: 1019 churches and 17987 villages plundered by Knights of the Order. Victims unknown. [DO30]


• 16th and 17th century Ireland. English troops "pacified and civilized" Ireland, where only Gaelic "wild Irish", "unreasonable beasts lived without any knowledge of God or good manners, in common of their goods, cattle, women, children and every other thing." One of the more successful soldiers, a certain Humphrey Gilbert, half-brother of Sir Walter Raleigh, ordered that "the heddes of all those (of what sort soever thei were) which were killed in the daie, should be cutte off from their bodies... and should bee laied on the ground by eche side of the waie", which effort to civilize the Irish indeed caused "greate terrour to the people when thei sawe the heddes of their dedde fathers, brothers, children, kinsfolke, and freinds on the grounde".
Tens of thousands of Gaelic Irish fell victim to the carnage. [SH99, 225]




Crusades (1095-1291)

• First Crusade: 1095 on command of pope Urban II. [WW11-41]


• Semlin/Hungary 6/24/96 thousands slain. Wieselburg/Hungary 6/12/96 thousands. [WW23]


• 9/9/96-9/26/96 Nikaia, Xerigordon (then turkish), thousands respectively. [WW25-27]


• Until Jan 1098 a total of 40 capital cities and 200 castles conquered (number of slain unknown) [WW30]


• after 6/3/98 Antiochia (then turkish) conquered, between 10,000 and 60,000 slain. 6/28/98 100,000 Turks (incl. women & children) killed. [WW32-35]
Here the Christians "did no other harm to the women found in [the enemy's] tents—save that they ran their lances through their bellies," according to Christian chronicler Fulcher of Chartres. [EC60]


• Marra (Maraat an-numan) 12/11/98 thousands killed. Because of the subsequent famine "the already stinking corpses of the enemies were eaten by the Christians" said chronicler Albert Aquensis. [WW36]


• Jerusalem conquered 7/15/1099 more than 60,000 victims (jewish, muslim, men, women, children). [WW37-40]
(In the words of one witness: "there [in front of Solomon's temple] was such a carnage that our people were wading ankle-deep in the blood of our foes", and after that "happily and crying for joy our people marched to our Saviour's tomb, to honour it and to pay off our debt of gratitude"


• The Archbishop of Tyre, eye-witness, wrote: "It was impossible to look upon the vast numbers of the slain without horror; everywhere lay fragments of human bodies, and the very ground was covered with the blood of the slain. It was not alone the spectacle of headless bodies and mutilated limbs strewn in all directions that roused the horror of all who looked upon them. Still more dreadful was it to gaze upon the victors themselves, dripping with blood from head to foot, an ominous sight which brought terror to all who met them. It is reported that within the Temple enclosure alone about ten thousand infidels perished." [TG79]


• Christian chronicler Eckehard of Aura noted that "even the following summer in all of palestine the air was polluted by the stench of decomposition". One million victims of the first crusade alone. [WW41]


• Battle of Askalon, 8/12/1099. 200,000 heathens slaughtered "in the name of Our Lord Jesus Christ". [WW45]


• Fourth crusade: 4/12/1204 Constantinople sacked, number of victims unknown, numerous thousands, many of them Christian. [WW141-148]


• Rest of Crusades in less detail: until the fall of Akkon 1291 probably 20 million victims (in the Holy land and Arab/Turkish areas alone). [WW224]

Note: All figures according to contemporary (Christian) chroniclers.[/s]

tooco:
The world is too civilized for a religious world war of course becos there are less muslims compared 2 oda faiths combined. I agree igbos need dia separate state.

hakimmiyya:

[s] 20th Century Church Atrocities

•. Catholic extermination camps

Surpisingly few know that Nazi extermination camps in World War II were by no means the only ones in Europe at the time. In the years 1942-1943 also in Croatia existed numerous extermination camps, run by Catholic Ustasha under their dictator Ante Paveli, a practising Catholic and regular visitor to the then pope. There were even concentration camps exclusively for children!

In these camps - the most notorious was Jasenovac, headed by a Franciscan friar - orthodox-Christian serbians (and a substantial number of Jews) were murdered. Like the Nazis the Catholic Ustasha burned their victims in kilns, alive (the Nazis were decent enough to have their victims gassed first). But most of the victims were simply stabbed, slain or shot to death, the number of them being estimated between 300,000 and 600,000, in a rather tiny country. Many of the killers were Franciscan friars. The atrocities were appalling enough to induce bystanders of the Nazi "Sicherheitsdient der SS", watching, to complain about them to Hitler (who did not listen). The pope knew about these events and did nothing to prevent them. [MV]


• Catholic terror in Vietnam
In 1954 Vietnamese freedom fighters - the Viet Minh - had finally defeated the French colonial government in North Vietnam, which by then had been supported by U.S. funds amounting to more than $2 billion. Although the victorious assured religious freedom to all (most non-buddhist Vietnamese were Catholics), due to huge anticommunist propaganda campaigns many Catholics fled to the South. With the help of Catholic lobbies in Washington and Cardinal Spellman, the Vatican's spokesman in U.S. politics, who later on would call the U.S. forces in Vietnam "Soldiers of Christ", a scheme was concocted to prevent democratic elections which could have brought the communist Viet Minh to power in the South as well, and the fanatic Catholic Ngo Dinh Diem was made president of South Vietnam. [MW16ff]

Diem saw to it that U.S. aid, food, technical and general assistance was given to Catholics alone, Buddhist individuals and villages were ignored or had to pay for the food aids which were given to Catholics for free. The only religious denomination to be supported was Roman Catholicism.

The Vietnamese McCarthyism turned even more vicious than its American counterpart. By 1956 Diem promulgated a presidential order which read:


◦ "Individuals considered dangerous to the national defense and common security may be confined by executive order, to a concentration camp."

Supposedly to fight communism, thousands of buddhist protesters and monks were imprisoned in "detention camps." Out of protest dozens of buddhist teachers - male and female - and monks poured gasoline over themselves and burned themselves. (Note that Buddhists burned themselves: in comparison Christians tend to burn others). Meanwhile some of the prison camps, which in the meantime were filled with Protestant and even Catholic protesters as well, had turned into no-nonsense death camps. It is estimated that during this period of terror (1955-1960) at least 24,000 were wounded - mostly in street riots - 80,000 people were executed, 275,000 had been detained or tortured, and about 500,000 were sent to concentration or detention camps. [MW76-89].

To support this kind of government in the next decade thousands of American GI's lost their life....

• Rwanda Massacres
In 1994 in the small african country of Rwanda in just a few months several hundred thousand civilians were butchered, apparently a conflict of the Hutu and Tutsi ethnic groups.


For quite some time I heard only rumours about Catholic clergy actively involved in the 1994 Rwanda massacres. Odd denials of involvement were printed in Catholic church journals, before even anybody had openly accused members of the church.

Then, 10/10/96, in the newscast of S2 Aktuell, Germany - a station not at all critical to Christianity - the following was stated:


"Anglican as well as Catholic priests and nuns are suspect of having actively participated in murders. Especially the conduct of a certain Catholic priest has been occupying the public mind in Rwanda's capital Kigali for months. He was minister of the church of the Holy Family and allegedly murdered Tutsis in the most brutal manner. He is reported to have accompanied marauding Hutu militia with a gun in his cowl. In fact there has been a bloody slaughter of Tutsis seeking shelter in his parish. Even two years after the massacres many Catholics refuse to set foot on the threshold of their church, because to them the participation of a certain part of the clergy in the slaughter is well established. There is almost no church in Rwanda that has not seen refugees - women, children, old - being brutally butchered facing the crucifix.

According to eyewitnesses clergymen gave away hiding Tutsis and turned them over to the machetes of the Hutu militia.

In connection with these events again and again two Benedictine nuns are mentioned, both of whom have fled into a Belgian monastery in the meantime to avoid prosecution. According to survivors one of them called the Hutu killers and led them to several thousand people who had sought shelter in her monastery. By force the doomed were driven out of the churchyard and were murdered in the presence of the nun right in front of the gate. The other one is also reported to have directly cooperated with the murderers of the Hutu militia. In her case again witnesses report that she watched the slaughtering of people in cold blood and without showing response. She is even accused of having procured some petrol used by the killers to set on fire and burn their victims alive..." [S2]

As can be seen from these events, to Christianity the Dark Ages never come to an end....

References:

[DA]

K.Deschner, Abermals krhte der Hahn, Stuttgart 1962.

[DO]

K.Deschner, Opus Diaboli, Reinbek 1987.

[EC]

P.W.Edbury, Crusade and Settlement, Cardiff Univ. Press 1985.

[EJ]

S.Eidelberg, The Jews and the Crusaders, Madison 1977.

[LI]

H.C.Lea, The Inquisition of the Middle Ages, New York 1961.

[MM]

M.Margolis, A.Marx, A History of the Jewish People.

[MV]

A.Manhattan, The Vatican’s Holocaust, Springfield 1986.
See also V.Dedijer, The Yugoslav Auschwitz and the Vatican, Buffalo NY, 1992.

[NC]

J.T.Noonan, Contraception: A History of its Treatment by the Catholic Theologians and Canonists, Cambridge/Mass., 1992.

[S2]

Newscast of S2 Aktuell, Germany, 10/10/96, 12:00.

[SH]

D.Stannard, American Holocaust, Oxford University Press 1992.

[SP]

German news magazine Der Spiegel, no.49, 12/2/1996.

[TA] A True Account of the Most Considerable Occurrences that have Hapned in the Warre Between the English and the Indians in New England, London 1676.

[TG]

F.Turner, Beyond Geography, New York 1980.

[WW]

H.Wollschlger: Die bewaffneten Wallfahrten gen Jerusalem, Zrich 1973.
(This is in german and what is worse, it is out of print. But it is the best I ever read about crusades and includes a full list of original medieval Christian chroniclers' writings).

[WV]

Estimates on the number of executed witches:

• N.Cohn, Europe's Inner Demons: An Enquiry Inspired by the Great Witch Hunt, Frogmore 1976, 253.


• R.H.Robbins, The Encyclopedia of Witchcraft and Demonology, New York 1959, 180.


• J.B.Russell, Witchcraft in the Middle Ages, Ithaca/NY 1972, 39.


• H.Zwetsloot, Friedrich Spee und die Hexenprozesse, Trier 1954, 56[/s] .

Realist2:
I hate to live in the world of injustice, it's better i die than to see injustice being perpetrated without justice because every unjust deed without justice will be a morale bolster to another.
If i may rhetorically ask ,What do we do to avert the eminent ?, How long shall this continue ?.

MossadAgent:


Are you desperately justifying the genocide of Christians over losing Jerusalem that wasn't Muslim in the first place?

This is akin to a thief suing the landlord of the house he trespassed on his property because the pitbulls rightfully attacked him.



You muslims are really the worst thing to happen to humanity.

hakimmiyya:


[s] you are obviously going further to show that you are a silly bigot and miscreant on this platform.I thought you were trying to show to the world that you Christians are saints. So your religion have this ugly history and yet you come here spew rubbish.
Ain't you ashamed of yourself?. If you are leaving in a glass house you don't throw stones. Just because some idiot fanatics killed a Christian woman you began making a fool of yourself on the social media writing rubbish about Islam.
Are you not telling the world that someone like you lacks analytical mind to know where to draw the line? But due to the parochial mind and hatred for Muslims you begin to make hasty generalization on Muslims.
We know people like you,all you do is to always looking for opportunity to attack Islam.
Did you ever deem it fit to condemn Christianity any time a group of Christians commit heinous crimes?
This is a tip of the ice bag for you. The evil in you is worst because you are nothing but a propagandist.[/s]

persius555:

[s]
OP wants you to take up arm and go after the next northern muslim you set your eyes on. This is the 21st century. Humanity is wiser. If there is a need to deal with a religious aggressor, i dont think i need to read a long epistle of what happened in the middle east centuries ago.
Like we say, all man for himself.
For all i care, the Turks, Armenia and whatever would gladly go after an african before descending on themselves. At the moment, Africa is a priority to us. The rest of the middle east can as well go at each other, who cares? Hitler never gave a hoot about us, Stalin never did.
The British see us as an ally in the face of defeat.

Africa is the future. The rest of the world can nuke each other, who cares. Any religion that threatens to carry out a religious cleansing in africa will get more than it can chew, because its going to be a long haul[/s].

MossadAgent:
hakimmiyya, dont you have any more weak ass copy pasta taqiyaa to post?

hakimmiyya:


You don't even have any defense any more,have resulted to taqqiyya.

MossadAgent:


Where did you see me call for violence against Moslems?

Believe me if Christians rose up against you muslims that will be the end of your useless existence.

Anti-Balaka movement and Serbia proves that when we decide to strike you guys will run like the cowards you are

hakimmiyya:


So you have agreed that you people are terrorists killing Muslims too.