Welcome, Guest: Register On Nairaland / LOGIN! / Trending / Recent / NewStats: 3,196,935 members, 7,962,986 topics. Date: Monday, 30 September 2024 at 10:17 PM |
Nairaland Forum / Entertainment / Sports / "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup (12511229 Views)
Cameroon's Douala Stadium Artificial Grassfield For AFCON 2019 Stolen / Super Eagles Arrive In Uyo, Train Ahead Of Their AFCON 2019 Qualifier (Pictures) / AFCON 2019: Nigeria To Battle South Africa For A Place (Full Draws) (2) (3) (4)
(1) (2) (3) ... (25) (26) (27) (28) (29) (30) (31) ... (16728) (Reply) (Go Down)
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:00am On Jun 11, 2016 |
forgiveness: They were poor players in top clubs. No matter how you try to spin it. Sinclair is a poor player but he played for Chelsea and Man City. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:03am On Jun 11, 2016 |
Mickael2: In addition, the league and performance is the deciding factor. Omeruo was consistently good in the the Turkish league but it can't be compared with the Bundesliga and Eredivisie where we have our players. Gbam! Leon Balogun played consistently for his club this season. He was only restrained due to injury at the end of the season. We know na. He never lost his position due to lack of performance. His statistics are there to see. 21 matches out of.... Who caused the goal against Luxembourg? Troost-Ekong played very very well for em em.. this season mean he is per with Leon Balogun and Kenneth Otigba. You know know. Levels no be the same. Wetin do Otigba? I repeat Onazi had played for Lazio as an attacking midfielder. It was where he played before he was promoted to the senior team. And he played in that position seldomly for Lazio. This one I know because I monitored him after John Obuh lost the finals. I have seen him played in that position. I have seen Madu played countless times but I still rate Echiejile higher than him. Monaco no be beans Echiejile started 18 good league matches for Monaco this season. So, what are you talking about? Is that fair enough or better playing 50 matches in Slovakia? Where Payet dey play? Obviously, not Slovakia na? John Ogu is good but Onazi is better. Simple. Kayode might not enter reserve team not to talk of the main National team. Meself fit score goalsssssss for Austria na. Ighalo needs a natural Attacking midfielder behind him.. If you bring Ibrahim I go still take because I am his fan. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:06am On Jun 11, 2016 |
Mickael2: Thanks. I do not know if you remember Kerrison Barcelona signed one time with a lot of hype. He managed to play Zero games for Barcelona. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:09am On Jun 11, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe: Yes, they are very poor players who never lasted more than one season but Echiejile just concluded his second season and he is going into the third season. You can spot the difference. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:26am On Jun 11, 2016 |
forgiveness: As if John Evans and Gibson lasted one season in Manchester United. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 12:29am On Jun 11, 2016 |
forgiveness: I am trying to answer you but it looks more annoying. So the turkish league is crap? Fernabache, Gallatasary and the likes are hopeless teams? Which teams are in the eredivise? Ajax? European punching bags? Psv? Because of one good season where they actually lost in the Round of 16? Nawa o. Which other club exists there? You are forgetting also that Omeruo played for Ado Den Haag once and he was their best player for that season. So he has been there and he has done it well. Atleast you agreed that Ekong is now on par with Leon and Otigba or isn't that what you mean? Alba has played as a winger before, play him there now and you will see how hopeless he will be. Mikel was our Amf once, play him there now and see the rubbish. Bale was once a leftback, play him there now. Drogba was once a defender,play him there now. Yaya toure was once a striker, play him there now. Your point is baseless. I have never seen him playing as an AMF myself but okay, maybe he played there when he was in secondary school, i don't know. But this season and last season, he DID NOT play as an Amf for Lazio, except if you know better than whoscored.com. His past position does not matter now, we are talking about the present. What's the name of Madu's team since you have seen him playing before? Echejile played 18 league matches, 6 were substitute appearances, he was subbed out in 4 others, so much for being so good. 18 matches out of 38, that's 20 matches on the bench. He is a bench warmer, a serious CHAIRman. Constant football improves sharpness and Madu and Oshaniwa both have that right now and that's all that matters. Onazi is better than John Ogu as a Cmf? That's dead wrong Sir. Even Lukman haruna plays better than Onazi in that CMF role not DMF. Ighalo has played with Victor Moses and Iwobi( who are our two best AMFs as at now) and he didn't perform well with either of them. So should we reshuffle our entire team just to suit one player? Or replace a single player so as to suit the team? He can't play with iwobi and Moses then he has to shift for now. I don't have anything against Otigba, he is average or above that slightly but not good enough to displace omeruo or ekong. Do you know the funny part? Otigba and Leon both play thesame foot, so how will they now play together? Omeruo is a sure bet cause he can play with his left, so he is certain. And we can't have 3 right footed CBs and just one left footed CB, so Awaziem comes in for Otigba. You sef fit score goals for Austria? How many goals you don score for Nigerian league? The highest goals return in our belle face football league prior to two seasons ago was 15. He scored 14 or 15 goals in his first season in Austria. Abeg say the truth na. Even Ideye didn't score so much in the Greek league. Austria is going to the Euros mainly with their local league players. Greek local league players didn't make it to the Euro. Check it na 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:31am On Jun 11, 2016 |
forgiveness: What of Downing who went to Liverpool and played two seasons without performing well. Club can not be used to judge. If not Atletic Bilbao would not mess Manchester United home and away in the Europa league. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 12:31am On Jun 11, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe: that's eh. Barca has a lot of such players and they all lasted for many years 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:33am On Jun 11, 2016 |
Mickael2: Is Shevchenko a poor player? Is Torres who helped Chelsea to score one million dollar goal a poor player? Is Alex Song a poor player? Is Fabrigase a poor player? Is Robben a poor player? Is Kaka of Real Real Madrid a poor player? If I begin to mention world class players who flopped at one point, you go tire. Echiejile has not been deemed flop in Monaco. Meaning he was a good buy. But we never hear Madu don dey market for big clubs to buy. Meaning scout no see am? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 12:38am On Jun 11, 2016 |
forgiveness: ok. Is victor valdes the best goalkeeper? He played for Barca nonetheless. Do you know Pinto? He stayed at Barca for many years. Do you know Bebe? Manu bought him. He stayed 2 seasons, is he a good player? I can go on and on 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 1:05am On Jun 11, 2016 |
Mickael2: Is Omeruo playing for Galatasary or Fernabachi? No How do you rate him about a player who played against best clubs in the world and in one of the best leagues in the world. So, you mean clubs in Turkey league will trash Ajax? Apart from Galasatary and Fernaberchi Turkish league can't be compared with the Eredivisie. Fact. Omeruo did well but was demoted to the Turkish league, that is not a good compliment. Leon Balogun and Kenneth Otigba are not in the same levels with Troost-Ekong. Fact. Onazi played as an attacking midfielder for Lazio two seasons ago. I saw it with my two koro koro eyes. No bi dem say. I have not seen Madu play for his club but I have seen him played for the National team. He was dropped because he was bullied and beaten several times in his last match. Echiejile bench warmer! What will you call father Mikel? and he is in ya first eleven. Don't you think constant football improves sharpness?ayeee! Look at his statistics very well and you will see he played 20 league matches this season. If you remove that 20 from 38 it will remain 18. Waoh! The first choice last season is gradually losing his place to Echiejile. Chai! If you say John Ogu is better than Onazi, it your opinion and you are entitled to it. So, you think Leon Balogun and Kenneth Otigba can't use their left legs? Kayode no go smell my team for now. No too much story. 1 Share
|
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 8:36am On Jun 11, 2016 |
I am becoming very suspicious...... Amodu Shuaibu passed away over 1.5 hours ago. The Keshi story hasn't died down and now this. I know this is the part where I ask what is happening but I won't.... I refuse to accept any more deaths.... I am so very annoyed at this and equally suspicious. God bless Nigeria.... Amodu and Keshi... Two men who remain the only Nigerians to successfully qualify Nigeria or any other nation for the Fifa World Cup. Godspeed Amodu.... |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:02am On Jun 11, 2016 |
RIP Coach Amodu and thank you for your service to the Super Eagles and the Nation. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 9:51am On Jun 11, 2016 |
forgiveness: i don't know what your problem is. You said the Eredivise is better than the Turkish league so I gave you two top teams from that league and compared then to the two top teams in Turkey. For your info, both teams didn't even finish in the top of the league,it was a club called amylasaspor or something like that. And Omeruo has been playing against those teams, who is Leon Balogun playing against? Mainz lost both legs against Bayern and Borrusia, he didn't even play one of the matches against Bayern, he was benched. I don't really understand what you are saying again. They cannot play as the left sided CB, there is no human being that can't use both feet but can you use it effectively? No. Do you know why Batra is going to the Euros? Because he is left footed, guy you need to start watching football soon. Omeruo was on loan to Holland for God's sake! He wasn't demoted, he left the loan deal because it expired! You are just talking without fact at all! You haven't seen Madu playing for his club, then stay quiet and don't say what you do not know. The last match he played for Nigeria he was outstanding. He wasn't invited again because he got injured not because he wasn't good. God, guy use facts na, not just what you want to believe! Out of that 20 appearances, he only played the full 90 minutes in 6! Fact! He is a bench piece, a rotational piece. Their leftback has been injury prone this season, and that's why he manages to play so much. And for your info, i never said Mikel would start for me, i preferred Ndidi but due partially to experience i added Mikel, infact Mikel started more games than Echejile, since Hiddink came, he played ever single game, so he is no bench warmer, fact! Which league does Otigba play in? So your koro koro eyes is more efficient than whoscored.com? Superb logic. Do you see where you lied? Hernanez was the attacking midfielder for Lazio that season, where Onazi take smell AMF? Biglia was there too,he was the bench piece for their AMF. You don't even watch the Italian league so i won't embarrass you any further. Kayode no go smell your team? Why? No sane reason. You didn't see Pedro going to the euros ahead of Isco and Saul that shows how terrible a coach you will be. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:28am On Jun 11, 2016 |
Mickael2: Bros, you don't have facts to prove your points but I do have concrete facts on ground. Who is Leon Balogun playing against? Are you serious? The top 10 German club will trash the top team in the Turkish league. You said he didn't play against those teams and they were beaten home and away. That is not true. Leon-balogun played in the match they defeated Bayern Munich away. Turkish league is for retired players. So, Left legged players can only be played on the LCD. Clap for ya self. If he was that good he should have stayed or moved to the highest level. Omeruo is an average player and he is not better than Leon Balogun or Kenneth Otigba. He was was not even deem fit to man the CB in the Eredivisie but rather played as a RB. You see what I am talking about. Or was he used as a CB in the Eredivisie? Digest this Leon Balogun first before I move to your next point. Did Leon-balogun play against Bayern Munich and where they trashed or did they trash Bayern Munich? Oya open ya eyes you we dey watch ball and see for yourself. Before I move to the next questions. Loading....
|
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:36am On Jun 11, 2016 |
Wait o! What is happening to our footballers? I just heard Amodu has died but I hardly believe. Na wa ooo. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:10am On Jun 11, 2016 |
Mickael2: @bolded is another lie. Echiejile played in all matches he started but was substituted only once. Records don't lie. Let me explain the statistics below to you. The clock symbolises the numbers of time he spent on the field of play this season. The green field is the numbers of games he played this season and as you can see it is 20. The next with human is the numbers of time he started this season which is 18. Right after that is the green arrow which signified he came in as a substitute 2 times. The red arrow shows that he came off as a substitute and we can see it is only once. The folded field with red dot explains he was an unused substitute for 7 games. Now, understanded thou? So, where did you see he played only 6 full matches? I hope you are not lying. Your sins have been forgiven you and go and shin no more. Pictures below
|
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 1:30pm On Jun 11, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe: But Echiejile is performing well. Any Spanish team playing in Europe competition is not a fluke and they can beat any top 10 clubs in the world. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 2:01pm On Jun 11, 2016 |
forgiveness: i would ask you to name the top10 teams in the bundesliga and tell me how far any of them went in the Europa league. Hertha Berlin were 4th in that league! Have you heard of them before? Liverpool defeated dortmund who are 2nd in that league. Apart from Bayern Munich and maybe Borrusia the rest is crap. My bad,Mainz defeated Bayern not thrashed. Did he play the first leg? Nop. Against Dortmund? Answer that. Apart from Azpilicueta, which other right footed player have you seen playing as a leftback? None. Do you know why Dale Blind starts constantly for Manu? He isn't the best they have, but he is left-footed. If you do not know anything about the technical aspect of football then don't say anything. Play a right footed player in the LCB( not LCD) and you will see how awkward he will be. You don't understand the meaning of a loan deal do you? He is on loan, it is Chealsea who will decide which team he moves to. He is still a chealsea player, go to skysports and look at the name of the players under chealsea. He is on loan to gain experience for God's sake! He played in Ado Den Haag 3 years ago, which brings me back to thesame point. He is no longer a RB now, he is now a CB, he played CB for middlesborough last season, he is playing thesame for his team now, i don't know why its so hard for you to understand this little fact. I asked you a question. Which team does Otigba play for because i doubt if you actually know. Leon balogun played and Mainz defeated Bayern. Ok, so that means he is the best we have? Then the Malaga defenders should all be playing for Spain right now because they didn't lose to Madrid. The defenders of Villareal should be playing for their countries too because they defeated Madrid and held Barca. Just see how crooked your ideas are. And also, i would like you look up how many games he played as a RB this season, then the crap you said about Omeruo will come back at you again. So the Turkish league is for retired players? Well i don't even know how i should start replying that rubbish. And please, stop adding smileys to everything you say, it makes it seem like i am arguing with an immature kid, and the pointless sarcastic side comments are just stupid 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 2:13pm On Jun 11, 2016 |
forgiveness: ok you want to go with facts. He played 1564 minutes out of the available 3420 minutes in a league season. That's less than half, anything less than half makes you a bench piece or is it not? Here is the link you need. www.asmonaco.com/en/player/uwa-echiejile-elderson-2309.html |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:17pm On Jun 11, 2016 |
forgiveness: Echiejile has more poor games for the Super Eagles than Oshaniwa. That was why Coach Keshi dropped Echiejile. The dropping of Echiejile led to an improvement in our defensive records. It is so simple. Oshaniwa should be ahead and it is wrong not even inviting him after he has proven himself. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 2:18pm On Jun 11, 2016 |
And you are only fighting tooth and nail to defend two facts alone. What about Otigba? Where are his own stats? If you want me to bring up stats my bro you will run. Go and compare their tackle success rate. The number of clearance and interception, the number of chances created, aerial duels won and so on. You will see that Balogun and Otigba are not close to Omeruo and Echejile isn't close to Madu and Oshaniwa. Thank God you didn't talk about the others. Atleast you have accepted that its Leon and Echejile alone that can be argued |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 2:20pm On Jun 11, 2016 |
TheGoodJoe: his problem is that he is using club performance to judge entirely. Infact not club performance, Club names. He does not see Osaze for example, he plays better for Nigeria than he does for his clubside. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 2:38pm On Jun 11, 2016 |
Mickael2: Chai! very funny and cunny...... First of all, you don't dictate to me how I make my point on social media. I will do it in the best way I think I am supposed to do it. Understand? good Now, answer this question? Who said Leon Balogun didn't play any of the matches against Bayern Munich and Borussia Dortmund? Did he play any of those matches or not? Clear that one first before I move to the next. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 2:41pm On Jun 11, 2016 |
forgiveness: so you do not understand the meaning of 'my bad' that i used in the write-up? Well look for your dictionary then. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 2:51pm On Jun 11, 2016 |
Mickael2: Where is it written in your last post 'my bad'? Are you admitting your early errors? If not answer those questions and it very simple. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 3:07pm On Jun 11, 2016 |
forgiveness: I clearly said 'My bad, Mainz defeated Bayern not thrashed'. That should have told you what I meant 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 3:19pm On Jun 11, 2016 |
Mickael2: Good! Now that you have acknowledged Leon Balogun played against some of the best attacking players in the World and top 3 team in the world and that his team even came out with a victory. Then, you were wrong. Did he play against Borussia Dortmund? Please, whenever you come to social media to make statement always endeavour to clarify your points before ignorantly and boldly stating them here and if you have been weighted in the balance and found wanting, please quickly admit you are wrong. Thanks Oya see him play against Borussia Dortmund. Fact 1 Like
|
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 3:26pm On Jun 11, 2016 |
forgiveness: Christ have mercy. I asked you a question for you to answer. I only clearly said that he didn't play against Bayern in the first leg. Now show that to me. I clearly left that Borrusia question hanging for you to answer. It was the Bayern return leg that I asked then answered. I dont know why English is so much of a problem for you |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 3:30pm On Jun 11, 2016 |
Mickael2: Have you seen it with your eyes that Leon Balogun was a full squad member of Mainz. He was a integral player for his club and he doesn't play only when he is injured. Shikena! |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 3:39pm On Jun 11, 2016 |
forgiveness: fact. He only played that game because Guidoli was suspended. He didnt play the first leg. Same as Bayern game. Do you want me to show you the number of minutes played? https://www.whoscored.com/Players/43362 he played 17 games, 4 as a sub totalling 1511 minutes out of 3420. So much for a starter 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 4:49pm On Jun 11, 2016 |
Mickael2: 'He only played that match because Guidoli was suspended' you suppose right? It is no longer he did not play, he only played Bayern Munich first second leg and not because Guidoli was suspended. Bros, simple say you are ignorant about Leon Balogun and it is as simple as that. How can you who did not know Leon Balogun played against both teams in the first place and now you suddenly know why he played. Now, What position did Guidoli played this season? What position did Leon Balogun played this season? Can you see where you shot yourself in foot. Quite it already because you are already loosing it sir. Now below picture shows Guidoli played as RB and LB most times while Leon Balogun played consistently as a CB and 4 times as RB. And this is even from your source. Leon Balogun is even rated highly than the so called Guidoli. Enjoy 1 Like
|
(1) (2) (3) ... (25) (26) (27) (28) (29) (30) (31) ... (16728) (Reply)
Viewing this topic: Amedino99(m), viccy12(m), kennysville(m), koxyz and 5 guest(s)
(Go Up)
Sections: politics (1) business autos (1) jobs (1) career education (1) romance computers phones travel sports fashion health religion celebs tv-movies music-radio literature webmasters programming techmarket Links: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10) Nairaland - Copyright © 2005 - 2024 Oluwaseun Osewa. All rights reserved. See How To Advertise. 184 |