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Re: Ten Things Non-programmers Should Know About Programmers by Nobody: 9:17pm On Jun 02, 2016 |
Raypawer:I don't have a tutor and I just started off earlier this week with html. You think I should change to the latter you mentioned? I guess C#, Java or Golang serve different purposes because of your assertion @bolded. What distinct functions do they serve? No vex for my JJC questions sha. Thanks |
Re: Ten Things Non-programmers Should Know About Programmers by Fulaman198(m): 9:49pm On Jun 02, 2016 |
NewSheriff: If you know C#, you know Java and vice versa. They languages are about 95% the same. What he meant was using these languages with different frame works. Learning Java or C# doesn't matter, but once you learn the language well enough to venture into different frameworks, like Spring for Java, then that's when you make your decision. You should also know that Java is used for Android development. |
Re: Ten Things Non-programmers Should Know About Programmers by oluwaskulboy(m): 12:29pm On Jun 03, 2016 |
DEVELOPING AN ANDROID APP, WHAT YOU SHOULD
KNOW.
http://techzone.com.ng/2016/05/05/developing-
android-app-know/ |
Re: Ten Things Non-programmers Should Know About Programmers by Nobody: 5:51pm On Jun 04, 2016 |
Fulaman198: C# is also used for android, IOS and windows development. Cc: NewSheriff |
Re: Ten Things Non-programmers Should Know About Programmers by Limerick: 12:25am On Jun 05, 2016 |
Can I make money off Programming? As in become a real-time earner? |
Re: Ten Things Non-programmers Should Know About Programmers by ajsans: 3:48pm On Jun 11, 2016 |
Raypawer:So what's advice will you give to a newbie like me. Was about downloading some of these videos form those sites you mentioned and couple it with some PDF ebooks online.An advice will be highly appreciated. |
Re: Ten Things Non-programmers Should Know About Programmers by ajsans: 3:56pm On Jun 11, 2016 |
Fulaman198:Fulaman198 you never seems to run out of advice. Couple with the fact that you are a network engineer amazes me on how you are good in both. Always wanted to do the same, but advice from friends stout say it's not possible. I will be starting off with programming for now before delving into networking. I think I have found myself a mentor and will be seeking your advice from time to time. I hope I won't be disturbing you. |
Re: Ten Things Non-programmers Should Know About Programmers by Raypawer(m): 4:33pm On Jun 11, 2016 |
Am not totally condeming those video, but what am saying which is the truth is that they will not and will never show you or teach you everything, not even up to fifty percent of what you ought to know, from experience, but as a newbie, u can watch it, i once used them, even when i had a teacher, mentor, so what i would advice you is - Be Determined to get to the top! - Ask God For Help - Get A Tutor, at least the learning process would be faster by half the time - Read Book, this is where you'll be taught almost everything - Join Forums, forums like quora, nairaland sha though its becoming childish, codeproject, stackoverflow - Let Others Review Your Work - Don't Be Too Money Concious, at least till when you are a big shot in the game, this will help you build portfolio for yourself - Have A Repository With Github - Work With Others, join a team of programmers - Etc ajsans: |
Re: Ten Things Non-programmers Should Know About Programmers by Fulaman198(m): 11:04pm On Jun 11, 2016 |
ajsans: Thanks for your kind words. It's quite possible to be well-rounded in all aspects of computer science if you allow yourself to be. Sure, you should have one area that you know the most, but you should know a lot in each field to be able to effectively communicate with other engineers of different specializations. When you go to school for Computer Science or Computer Engineering, they give you a well-rounded education for software engineering and networking knowledge up to the CCENT/CCNA level depending on which classes you take. If you are studying Comp Sci or Comp Engineering, I advise that you take the general comp sci classes you need, a data structures & algorithms class, a discrete math/structures class, an operating systems class, a compiler theory class, a database class, a network class, and a class for mobile app development. Those classes should definitely give you a very well-rounded knowledge. |
Re: Ten Things Non-programmers Should Know About Programmers by Raypawer(m): 2:04am On Jun 12, 2016 |
which school in nigeria do teach all these? Fulaman198: |
Re: Ten Things Non-programmers Should Know About Programmers by ajsans: 7:42am On Jun 12, 2016 |
Raypawer:Thanks for the advice raypawer. I really appreciate. |
Re: Ten Things Non-programmers Should Know About Programmers by ajsans: 7:54am On Jun 12, 2016 |
Fulaman198:Wow I wish i saw this advice during my undergraduate days. Just recently graduated with an electrical and electronics engineering degree. Found out that I had much love for I.T than electrical engineering as a whole. |
Re: Ten Things Non-programmers Should Know About Programmers by Fulaman198(m): 4:38pm On Jun 12, 2016 |
ajsans: Depending on which field of electrical engineering you chose to study, you could still have gone an I.T route. Both Computer Science and Computer engineering have their respective roots in electrical engineering. |
Re: Ten Things Non-programmers Should Know About Programmers by ajsans: 2:59pm On Jun 15, 2016 |
Fulaman198:You are right about computer science and engineering having their root in electrical engineering. I am going the I.T route now. Will be dedicating my one year of service (NYSC) learning programming. In the future will delve into networking. Currently watching videos on foundation programming from Lynda and taking notes. I hope am in the right path. |
Re: Ten Things Non-programmers Should Know About Programmers by mcqwerty(m): 9:38pm On Jul 01, 2016 |
PHP is the language of web applications. People go around and bashing this prog language and that prog language. Each language was created to solve a problem, there's no "magic bullet" prog lang for all. |
Re: Ten Things Non-programmers Should Know About Programmers by abenmariem: 10:29am On Aug 18, 2016 |
Many people are asking about polymorphism. polymorphism is an OOP concept that is not related to a specefic programming language. It is divided into two types: static and dynamic polymorphism I suggest to take alook at the polymorphism in java tutorial to learn more about this important concept. |
Re: Ten Things Non-programmers Should Know About Programmers by ysd01(m): 5:07pm On Sep 18, 2016 |
Raypawer:Brother you are truly a good brain in the PROFESSION, perfect advice for aspirers like me. I salute you. |
Re: Ten Things Non-programmers Should Know About Programmers by puma90: 6:46pm On Sep 19, 2016 |
who gives a shit about being computer science student.i can say som self taught programmers are better dan a prof in computer science.wat matters his solvn problems wit tins u knw, nt knwn millions of useless theories u cnt implement on real life problem.can a prof in computer science talk wen bil gate an harvard drop out is talkn wat matters is practicals and solutns. 1 Like |
Re: Ten Things Non-programmers Should Know About Programmers by airsaylongcon: 12:55am On Sep 20, 2016 |
puma90: You need to look at the syllabus of modern computer science programmes before you start running your mouth. We need the academicians to formulate the theories on which the practicals are built. Imagine Einstein didn't come up with his theory of relativity, which stupid person would have had a basis to build something practical when the foundation wasn't there in the 1st place. Talking of Bill Gates or Mark Zuckerberg as outperforming university professors is akin to saying Ronaldo or Messi are regular footballers. For every Mark Zuckerberg there are a million unsuccessfuls |
Re: Ten Things Non-programmers Should Know About Programmers by puma90: 9:36am On Sep 20, 2016 |
airsaylongcon:b4 u run ur mouth abt estein and newton wats d point of knownin every physic theories and u can,t connect wires to create simple electricity and an electrician who never saw d 4 walls of school can connect a whole buildn.all am sayn is i dispute d fact dat if u dnt av degree in computer science u cnt b a good programmer. 1 Like |
Re: Ten Things Non-programmers Should Know About Programmers by airsaylongcon: 10:21am On Sep 20, 2016 |
puma90: U fail to get the point! Without Einstein or Newton there would be no electrician! There would be no electricity in the first place. You cannot be a top notch programmer if you do not know the theory if computer science. Average programmes yes but never top-notch. If you doubt it let me drop one question for you here that will leave you in twist for days |
Re: Ten Things Non-programmers Should Know About Programmers by puma90: 10:45am On Sep 20, 2016 |
airsaylongcon:it is u dat u r nt gettn d point. am talkn abt problem solvn programn like build webb apps and mobile app nt academic and theoretical aspect.i am sayn am able to build a mobile app in c++ with 5star rate in google play n am a self taught and u a 1st class in comp science know all d data structures of c++ and u cant build a simple app sound familiar.i dn,t dispute d fact dat its good to learn few theoretical aspect but i disput d fact dat u can never b a top notch developer being self taught. |
Re: Ten Things Non-programmers Should Know About Programmers by airsaylongcon: 12:06pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
puma90: First of all, a 5star rating on Google play doesn't equate to been a top programmer. Can you for example tell me what algorithm/algorithms you have chosen to deploy in your apps, the reason behind your choices and say efficiency of your chosen algorithms. Why have u chosen to develop on Android and not sat on iPhone were there are more stringent requirements for memory utilisation. Do you for example understand what machine learning or neural networks are and how you can optimally deploy them in building advanced apps that can learn from their "experiences"? And know I never said you can never been a top-notch programmer if you are self taught. I said you can never be a top-notch programmer if you do not know the theory of computer science. Whether you decide to teach your self the theory or learn it via an academic program is not the crux of my argument. My point is that without the theory you can never go far |
Re: Ten Things Non-programmers Should Know About Programmers by logicalhumour: 7:53pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
ysd01:Lol. My mum and every one around me are really scared now. I stay more than 15hrs standby on My desktop. I don't have a black spec (I'll try to get one soon though ). My Mom and some others keep warning me of the feature health challenges I may experience... but I just keep wishing my Mom was a core programmer like me. Iam currently working on something... something I thank God (literally ) daily.. for giving me such unique idea... it's something that would change the mindset of programmers / web devs. it's not a forum, not a social network... just nothing you can imagine yet . Iam so anxious of completing the entirely new idea... #can't wait... that means #can't sleep too ! Phewww! ……OP. Your title conflicts your post. You mentioned 11 thing's |
Re: Ten Things Non-programmers Should Know About Programmers by logicalhumour: 8:04pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
Raypawer:Learn those stuff... waka with ur CV till you tire (for naija )...the money is with the underatted PHP ...I left those things... just a few months with PHP... levels Don change. PHP... I Rep you! |
Re: Ten Things Non-programmers Should Know About Programmers by logicalhumour: 8:10pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
Raypawer:are you serious? Tell that to Facebook |
Re: Ten Things Non-programmers Should Know About Programmers by logicalhumour: 8:17pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
ysd01:Seems asiv you just learn with PDFs. without putting into real-world practice... most times, your program WILL never need inheritance. (na your type dey buy Ferrari (for example) go farm... just because it's trending ) |
Re: Ten Things Non-programmers Should Know About Programmers by logicalhumour: 8:29pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
Limerick:YES!... forget what these pple are saying and settle for php + MySQL. na there money dey! (you can replace PHP with Django, JSP, or Rails in the future if you feel somehow ) 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Ten Things Non-programmers Should Know About Programmers by logicalhumour: 8:37pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
Raypawer:P.O.C: No human nor machine can teach you everything...you Learn from the videos and do more research for yourself (na your type wan learn hac-ing and dey type "download complete PDF on how to hac-k" abi ) |
Re: Ten Things Non-programmers Should Know About Programmers by logicalhumour: 9:00pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
airsaylongcon:Oboy, you should be more intelligent than this na... na war for you oo. …yes, there MAY be no electricity...there would have been something better! (so sad students go to school improving on those ancient stuffs... not many realize they could invent a primary thing any longer ). Look, before the white men came to spoil us with their technology... we had ours. We had things they actually stole the idea... if the white man hadn't brought an airplane.... one day, an African would have made something that's not an airplane... but flies like one (and used it to discover those white men ). Sincere white men said if they had left us. our innovations would have been unbeatable. Oneday, if you're oppotuned to see an alien plannet with intellectual / intelligent beings like us. you would be amazed. 1. There would be no 'electricity ' because there was no... ...some kind of crazy intelligent scientists 2. There would be no 'what we call car... maybe something better or worse. 3. ... ...oboy no talk like that abeg. ... |
Re: Ten Things Non-programmers Should Know About Programmers by airsaylongcon: 9:17pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
logicalhumour: I laugh when people hypothesise. Something better? Like? The fact remains those guys built the theory on which electricity is based on. My point really is that without the theory there won't be any practice. If there is no computer science theory there is no programming. If you don't know how the theory works, you can never be a top notch programmer. This is the point |
Re: Ten Things Non-programmers Should Know About Programmers by logicalhumour: 10:09pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
airsaylongcon:You make me laugh.. really. look, the fact that mama Jenifer at lagos uses manufactured leather to package her moimoi does not mean mama Ene somewhere at Ipole-owukpa cannot use banana leaves (of which gives the okpa / moimoi a more yummy taste ). I bet you don't know saw dust can be used to cook in a stylish tin (a way more efficient than kerosene... no whiteman gave any "theory" for that... tws hard necessity of a naija person who never learnt physics ) . white men never thought us how to make fire... though our ancestors ate roasted meat!. The cocoa we planted before the arrival of the white men was natural and healthy (they stole some and brought bournvita... brought bqck some genetically modified (dangerous ) species... brought back theories of 'best ways to plant cocoa ' - WTF... did they give us those useless theories before they stole our naturally cultivated cocoa? ...(before I forget my last bracket - for a proper nesting , let me add it )) We had cotton, we used cotton to spin yerns to simple clothing - no theories. we were intelligent enough to make and shoot arrows without knowledge of projectiles... we killed animals without angle of projection. When I was in the U.S, I usually got some old folks drunk and saw how some... (I Don vex. I'll charge my battery and come back ) OP - Iam sorry sha |
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