Greatings my noble compatriots, I've taken time to study and observe to polity which is already hitted up along political/ethnic lines. I realised that both party A and party B all clamour and yawn for a better Nigeria irrespective of their party idealogy but the route or method of approach in remoulding this great Nation back to what it use to be seems not to be working..
Having said that, I would want the great minds in these forum to come together as one and engage eachother in a great constructive discourse on the aforementioned topic above and see if we can at least set sail from
there..
What do you understand about True Federalism?

Do you think what Nigeria needs now at this critical moment of unrest both at the northern and southern axis is True fiscal federational government?

If you are against true federalism and total restructuring of the system, please can we have your reason and what are the other possible ways of cultivating an evalasting peace and oneness in this country...


Thanks as we await your intelligent inputs...

am a big fan of federalism,people that fight against all either stupid northeners or core buharist,is only in Nigeria where we fail to take the right decision because of greed and party affiliation

erusen:
am a big fan of federalism,people that fight against all either stupid northeners or core buharist,is only in Nigeria where we fail to take the right decision because of greed and party affiliation

is DAT d advantage and disadvantage of true federalism? ****

erusen:
am a big fan of federalism,people that fight against all either stupid northeners or core buharist,is only in Nigeria where we fail to take the right decision because of greed and party affiliation

Why do you think this present administration is against restructuring the system?? Their slogan is change and I strongly believe that if the masses can unanimously demand for true federalism, am sure the govt. will have no lesser option than to succumb...

salam1:
is DAT d advantage and disadvantage of true federalism? u where asked simple question and u r answering lyk an slowpoke

Please let's do these with love.. Am apolitical and I will advice that we all act that way on this post in other to achieve its purpose.. Please enlightene us more on the advantages and advantages of true federalism if you know more about it..

Thanks...

Its the exact opposite of what we have, today power is concentrated at the centre at federal level, yet the closet government to the people is the state and local, the federal government generates funds from critucal areas of the country and shares this proceeds on a fixed formular to the states. This method is flawed because it has renderedd us a mono economy heavily dependent on oil. We haven't been able to tap the resources in other states and its very difficult for the dividends on democracy to reach the common man. Thus true federalism in this context is based majorly on resource control. Power must shift to the regions, we must weaken the government at the centre and transfer power to the regions. This means states would generate and develop their regions with whatever exists there while the contribute a token to the centre for running federal units like the military and unuversities. This implies that nigeria woould become a diversified economy faster in that structure than in our current one. That system reduces the importance of the president on local affairs and eliminantes traibal and religious bias in politics, as regional head have to contest amongst his or her own people unlike in the current structure

advantages of federalism
1.people feel more involved
2.separation of power to help create checks and balance that are in play rather than let all one body hold all the power
3.a better understand,each states or region have different needs and care,for example the feeding of school children is more critical in some region than others,why such money is needed to build or repair schools,feeding school kids is not ridiculous to some regions,in an all out unitary government understanding the basic needs of some states is very.disadvantages will be over patriotism to a region over the entire country I guess.

Eddygourdo:
Its the exact opposite of what we have, today power is concentrated at the centre at federal level, yet the closet government to the people is the state and local, the federal government generates funds from critucal areas of the country and shares this proceeds on a fixed formular to the states. This method is flawed because it has renderedd us a mono economy heavily dependent on oil. We haven't been able to tap the resources in other states and its very difficult for the dividends on democracy to reach the common man. Thus true federalism in this context is based majorly on resource control. Power must shift to the regions, we must weaken the government at the centre and transfer power to the regions. This means states would generate and develop their regions with whatever exists there while the contribute a token to the centre for running federal units like the military and unuversities. This implies that nigeria woould become a diversified economy faster in that structure than in our current one. That system reduces the importance of the president on local affairs and eliminantes traibal and religious bias in politics, as regional head have to contest amongst his or her own people unlike in the current structure

Great point Sir..

DEAFandDUMB:


Why do you think this present administration is against restructuring the system?? Their slogan is change and I strongly believe that if the masses can unanimously demand for true federalism, am sure the govt. will have no lesser option than to succumb...

the present administration will fight against it,because they are greedy bunch of foo.ls who want more power at the top rather than admitting Nigeria's obvious solution.

erusen:
advantages of federalism
1.people feel more involved
2.separation of power to help create checks and balance that are in play rather than let all one body hold all the power
3.a better understand,each states or region have different needs and care,for example the feeding of school children is more critical in some region than others,why such money is needed to build or repair schools,feeding school kids is not ridiculous to some regions,in an all out unitary government understanding the basic needs of some states is very.disadvantages will be over patriotism to a region over the entire country I guess.

Wow!... This is getting interesting... What could be the reasons why many successive administrations has refuse to embrace true federalism since from all indication its the fastest and a sure route to making Nigeria great again... Are they afraid that the centre might fall and Abuja and Lagos be deserted?

DEAFandDUMB:


Wow!... This is getting interesting... What could be the reasons why many successive administrations has refuse to embrace true federalism since from all indication its the fastest and a sure route to making Nigeria great again... Are they afraid that the centre might fall and Abuja and Lagos be deserted?

like I said Nigeria knows its solution but greed ,party affiliation won't let people admit the obvious, centre power is useless in federalism so trust our greedy politician to fight against it,USA practice this system of gonvernment

erusen:
am a big fan of federalism,people that fight against all either stupid northeners or core buharist,is only in Nigeria where we fail to take the right decision because of greed and party affiliation

mention 3 characteristics of true federalism I dare you.

Eddygourdo:
Its the exact opposite of what we have, today power is concentrated at the centre at federal level, yet the closet government to the people is the state and local, the federal government generates funds from critucal areas of the country and shares this proceeds on a fixed formular to the states. This method is flawed because it has renderedd us a mono economy heavily dependent on oil. We haven't been able to tap the resources in other states and its very difficult for the dividends on democracy to reach the common man. Thus true federalism in this context is based majorly on resource control. Power must shift to the regions, we must weaken the government at the centre and transfer power to the regions. This means states would generate and develop their regions with whatever exists there while the contribute a token to the centre for running federal units like the military and unuversities. This implies that nigeria woould become a diversified economy faster in that structure than in our current one. That system reduces the importance of the president on local affairs and eliminantes traibal and religious bias in politics, as regional head have to contest amongst his or her own people unlike in the current structure

who stopped you from planting Palm oyel and Co. building refinery and industrial parks
.you just complain,no effort to fix what you can. is it not the same thieves that will come to rule at state level
mention the power that states do not have. you no fit. it's sad that you are the ppl we have to campaign to soon

erusen:
advantages of federalism
1.people feel more involved
2.separation of power to help create checks and balance that are in play rather than let all one body hold all the power
3.a better understand,each states or region have different needs and care,for example the feeding of school children is more critical in some region than others,why such money is needed to build or repair schools,feeding school kids is not ridiculous to some regions,in an all out unitary government understanding the basic needs of some states is very.disadvantages will be over patriotism to a region over the entire country I guess.

who stopped you from being involved.?
where is the power not separated? mention 3,I dare you.
does Abuja budget for your governors and commissioners?
nonsense

DEAFandDUMB:


Wow!... This is getting interesting... What could be the reasons why many successive administrations has refuse to embrace true federalism since from all indication its the fastest and a sure route to making Nigeria great again... Are they afraid that the centre might fall and Abuja and Lagos be deserted?

Point of correction, Nigeria was never great

mikolo80:
who stopped you from planting Palm oyel and Co. building refinery and industrial parks
.you just complain,no effort to fix what you can. is it not the same thieves that will come to rule at state level

its a win or lose situation in federal structure, if the state doesn't do what it ought to do to generate funds, it can't get or expect aid from anywhere, the current system made the governors lazy and many forgot their roles, why invest when they can as well wait for monthly allocations from the center. That is part of the problem, the current system bred laziness. Plus people will be able to hold their leaders more accountable , eg all we here is buhari this , buhari that, and nobody has thought it wise to blame the local councillor, chairman or governor for incompetence.

Eddygourdo:
its a win or lose situation in federal structure, if the state doesn't do what it ought to do to generate funds, it can't get or expect aid from anywhere, the current system made the governors lazy and many forgot their roles, why invest when they can as well wait for monthly allocations from the center. That is part of the problem, the current system bred laziness. Plus people will be able to hold their leaders more accountable , eg all we here is buhari this , buhari that, and nobody has thought it wise to blame the local councillor, chairman or governor for incompetence.

no my patriotic but ignorant brother, laziness bred laziness. it has nothing to do with system of govt. how is it systems fault that ppl refuse to hold their councillor to task.

Leopardd:


Point of correction, Nigeria was never great

Really??

Thought we use to export rubber, cocoa, textile and even palm oil and what have you... When agriculture was our main source of income and revenue generation before the birth of the evil child called crude oil..

Having read all advantageous effects. I state the disadvantages:
1. States have right to form state police, Nig govt fears this will create room for state rebellion and subsequently use police for state govt personal purposes.
2. States have right to be autonomous, a room Nig govt sees as introduction to seccession.
3. States control their resources, Nig govt feels this would leave many states in the north impoverished.
4. State govt earns varied salaries, Nig govt feels some southern states will have more money and enslave others.
5. States finally have right to leave or stay as one entity in Nig. A light to achieving Biafra/ND republic, Oduduwa republic etc. Nig govt does not want that to happen..

These are disadvantages..
Its for us to check if they weigh up to, or outweight the advantages.

mikolo80:
no my patriotic but ignorant brother, laziness bred laziness. it has nothing to do with system of govt. how is it systems fault that ppl refuse to hold their councillor to task.

guess you have an issue with critical thinking, that you don't seem to understand human nature and system models. The existence of the american system forces its citizens to conform to specific standards and same applies here. The mind is free wheeling and its the laws and structures that abound which aligns it to any cause. So oga if the system is wrong, you will keep doing the saame things and getting no results. How do you blame a governor now, didn't u notice many workers are on strike ? And the governors are telling stories of reduced allocations ? Remove that option , change that structure and the governors would understand that its a call to servee, a seat meant only for the competent, where its more difficult to blame another for his incompetence. That you can see it, should speak more of ur ignorance my brother

DEAFandDUMB:


Really??

Thought we use to export rubber, cocoa, textile and even palm oil and what have you... When agriculture was our main source of income and revenue generation before the birth of the evil child called crude oil..

When we export those things does not make us great... We only felt better. Populations multiplying, people getting more exposed, hidden deals benig excavated, while no prudent plans for the future we're being made.. Then.. What we felt were better turned to be unsustainable, deversions followed, deceptions, robbing Mr A to pay Mr B, false accusations and killings(Ken Saro Wiwa), all smooth sweets turned sour.. And we discovered, we were never great.. We only felt we were great..

Unbrandedguy:
Having read all advantageous effects. I state the disadvantages:
1. States have right to form state police, Nig govt fears this will create room for state rebellion and subsequently use police for state govt personal purposes.
2. States have right to be autonomous, a room Nig govt sees as introduction to seccession.
3. States control their resources, Nig govt feels this would leave many states in the north impoverished.
4. State govt earns varied salaries, Nig govt feels some southern states will have more money and enslave others.
5. States finally have right to leave or stay as one entity in Nig. A light to achieving Biafra/ND republic, Oduduwa republic etc. Nig govt does not want that to happen..

These are disadvantages..
Its for us to check if they weigh up to, or outweight the advantages.

Am short of words Sir.. Informations as such is what prompted these topic.. With the few points listed, I think if the Nigeria govt. really want to practice true federalism, they can enact a law or state some modalities that will be guiding the state.. Over there at the western world, we have the LAPD and FBI as well they all work according to the standing rules which gives you power solely within your jurisdiction..

Which better way do you think is the best way forward?

Unbrandedguy:


When we export those things does not make us great... We only felt better. Populations multiplying, people getting more exposed, hidden deals benig excavated, while no prudent plans for the future we're being made.. Then.. What we felt were better turned to be unsustainable, deversions followed, deceptions, robbing Mr A to pay Mr B, false accusations and killings(Ken Saro Wiwa), all smooth sweets turned sour.. And we discovered, we were never great.. We only felt we were great..

Can we ever be great? If yes, please tell us how you think we can achieve that without bloodshed or another civil war...

Eddygourdo:
guess you have an issue with critical thinking, that you don't seem to understand human nature and system models. The existence of the american system forces its citizens to conform to specific standards and same applies here. The mind is free wheeling and its the laws and structures that abound which aligns it to any cause. So oga if the system is wrong, you will keep doing the saame things and getting no results. How do you blame a governor now, didn't u notice many workers are on strike ? And the governors are telling stories of reduced allocations ? Remove that option , change that structure and the governors would understand that its a call to servee, a seat meant only for the competent, where its more difficult to blame another for his incompetence. That you can see it, should speak more of ur ignorance my brother

one question.
no critical thinking involved.
who built this American system you gush about.?
it fell from heaven ba.?
think or at least do extensive research bfor you insult ppl you don't know on subjects you are I'll informed to comment on.

I challenge you to mention the part of the ''system '' that stops a governor from developing his state.
fashola was opposed by obj/pdp when he achieved most of his achievements in Lagos o.

Eddygourdo:
its a win or lose situation in federal structure, if the state doesn't do what it ought to do to generate funds, it can't get or expect aid from anywhere, the current system made the governors lazy and many forgot their roles, why invest when they can as well wait for monthly allocations from the center. That is part of the problem, the current system bred laziness. Plus people will be able to hold their leaders more accountable , eg all we here is buhari this , buhari that, and nobody has thought it wise to blame the local councillor, chairman or governor for incompetence.

so which part of the ''system ''should be blamed for this laziness

mikolo80:
one question.
no critical thinking involved.
who built this American system you gush about.?
it fell from heaven ba.?
think or at least do extensive research bfor you insult ppl you don't know on subjects you are I'll informed to comment on

hmmmm you take the ignorant word you dished out as an insult ? What hypocrisy. You talk with such high esteemed knowledge, this is you who knowledge, certificate, research, or anything intellectual is still an up and coming babe, yet you speak to me as though we equals. I am obliging you because I feel in the mood, come down from your self deception. Before we will proceed, in my community we use a google search to know who one is in this world. drop ur name and I will drop mine, a google search should erase all doubt that you are an up and coming babe and should be grateful that I responded to you. To brag about a subjject as mute and daft as government shows u are slow. put up ur real name , I want to shame you and humble you for good. Googlle will be our friend

mikolo80:
so which part of the ''system ''should be blamed for this laziness

I will respond to u no further till you do as you are told. I have noticed this delusion in you many times and I have ignored it because empty barrels make a lot of noise. But let's bring it up . Since you feel you have acheieved so muxh that you can brag to a stranger about ur intellectual prowess on subject matters. Prove it and I intend to so same.

Eddygourdo:
I will respond to u no further till you do as you are told. I have noticed this delusion in you many times and I have ignored it because empty barrels make a lot of noise. But let's bring it up . Since you feel you have acheieved so muxh that you can brag to a stranger about ur intellectual prowess on subject matters. Prove it and I intend to so same.

just as I though, no proof just repeating what you heard someone say. You don't even know what true federalism means.

Eddygourdo:
hmmmm you take the ignorant word you dished out as an insult ? What hypocrisy. You talk with such high esteemed knowledge, this is you who knowledge, certificate, research, or anything intellectual is still an up and coming babe, yet you speak to me as though we equals. I am obliging you because I feel in the mood, come down from your self deception. Before we will proceed, in my community we use a google search to know who one is in this world. drop ur name and I will drop mine, a google search should erase all doubt that you are an up and coming babe and should be grateful that I responded to you. To brag about a subjject as mute and daft as government shows u are slow. put up ur real name , I want to shame you and humble you for good. Googlle will be our friend

check dictionary for meaning of ignorant.
Einstein teacher said he will not amount to much.
I may not have you achievements (ephemeral things) but it doesn't mean I don't outclass you in my area where I am clearly your superior.
I may be older than a child. Doesn't mean that he won't wipe the floor with my ass on a video game. So your chest beating has no relevance to present argument. Whole professors about ensure toilets flush in our universities. Who therefore your linked in resume help. Mr google.

PS if you can be found on Google. You're way behind the eight ball. If only you knew hoW exposed you are on the web you will not be displaying such ignorance. Empty barrels...... You know the rest

mikolo80:
just as I though, no proof just repeating what you heard someone say. You don't even know what true federalism means.

and you feel knowing what true federalism means is intellgence ? A moot and valueless subject like O level government ? Is that what you are bragging about ? You say u are a researcher ? You do extensive research , I say let's prove it and ur running away. I will ask you two questions and offer you one million naira. If you get it in a week it shall be yours. Even in ur dreams you won't be able to,

Let me school you abit since you are still at that level, knowledge and intelligence are very differnt. Knowledge is data , intellegence is usefui information. Apparently all you have in ur head is data, a typical nigerian product of cram and pour. You asking me a question that google can answer, I will ask u a question that google can't answer.

Never in ur life again should who feel fly for knowing the definition of federalism and yet not having the inteligence of what are its implications , merits or demerits. Read the type of questions you asking. Like a child. what are the types of fedralism? Imagine that. We talking models u talking crap.


Mr man , you not intelligent, I need intelligent people who will create and apply existing knwoledge, not someone who regurgitates what he has crammed and can relate that with his environment for any analysis.

Post ur name here. I want to know ur standing in our community, cos we know oursleves, and I don't know you