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Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by azonto4real(m): 1:50am On Jun 14, 2016 |
DEAFandDUMB: It is not an evil child but the Nigerian politicians are the ones making it to be evil, rather it is a blessing we are not harnessing properly. 1 Like |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by Oildichotomy(m): 1:54am On Jun 14, 2016 |
engrhorla:Sorry to say but your submissions seems to be skewed and tad naive. So Nigeria being a mere geographical entity according to your Awolowo negates nationhood? If I may ask which country is not a geographical entity? Even if we are to follow your supposed Awolowo premise of mere geographical entity, Didn't that just suggest we go our separate ways since we don't have what it takes to sustain nationhood? The Center for Global Development 2006 Working Paper suggest that Age in a democracy doesn't matter provided the younger democracies enact proactive fiscal structures, economic and policy directions that have widespread impact and approval or it stand a risk of democratic reversal. We are ripe enough to restructure the country to fiscal federalism or we will just succeed in delaying the inevitable and patching through the same way we have been doing since 1966. Truth be told, a substantial part of the country feel cheated and agitated with the status quo. |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by mikolo80: 1:55am On Jun 14, 2016 |
oweniwe: It's section 308 you bastard son of LovePeddler 308. (1) Notwithstanding anything to the contrary in this Constitution, but subject to subsection (2) of this section - (a) no civil or criminal proceedings shall be instituted or continued against a person to whom this section applies during his period of office; (b) a person to whom this section applies shall not be arrested or imprisoned during that period either in pursuance of the process of any court or otherwise; and (c) no process of any court requiring or compelling the appearance of a person to whom this section applies, shall be applied for or issued: Provided that in ascertaining whether any period of limitation has expired for the purposes of any proceedings against a person to whom this section applies, no account shall be taken of his period of office. (2) The provisions of subsection (1) of this section shall not apply to civil proceedings against a person to whom this section applies in his official capacity or to civil or criminal proceedings in which such a person is only a nominal party. (3) This section applies to a person holding the office of President or Vice-President, Governor or Deputy Governor; and the reference in this section to "period of office" is a reference to the period during which the person holding such office is required to perform the functions of the office |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by Nobody: 1:56am On Jun 14, 2016 |
lionshare:Lionshare, you are not God. You started your piece brilliantly then made a dogs breath out of your conclussions. You have to be open minded you know? |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by oweniwe(m): 1:58am On Jun 14, 2016 |
mikolo80: Why are u quick to abusing people? Did I insult you? Section 308 of the 1999 Constitution verbatim. The Section provides: (1) Notwithstanding anything to the contrary in this Constitution, but subject to subsection (2) of this section - (a) No civil or criminal proceedings shall be instituted or continued against a person to whom this section applies during his period of office; (b) A person to whom this section applies shall not be arrested or imprisoned during that period either in pursuance of the process of any court or otherwise; and (c) No process of any court requiring or compelling the appearance of a person to whom this section applies, shall be applied for or issued: Provided that in ascertaining whether any period of limitation has expired for the purposes of any proceedings against a person to whom this section applies, no account shall be taken of his period of office. (2) The provisions of subsection (1) of this section shall not apply to civil proceedings against a person to whom this section applies in his official capacity or to civil or criminal proceedings in which such a person is only a nominal party. (3) This section applies to a person holding the office of President or Vice-President, Governor or Deputy Governor; and the reference in this section to "period of office" is a reference to the period during which the person holding such office is required to perform the functions of the office. I have provided the section for you... It is you... Your ancestors ... Descendants and entire generation that thunder will fire... Tsunami back to sender...!!.. ![]() ![]() 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by oweniwe(m): 2:07am On Jun 14, 2016 |
Before... mikolo80: Now... You modified an earlier comment after I had showed you the section mikolo80: You are very confused... E be like say sleep dey worry you... Go to bed my son. And dont quote me again cos if u do, I will not reply you 2 Likes |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by akigbemaru: 2:09am On Jun 14, 2016 |
True federalism! 1 Like |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by cidy123: 2:10am On Jun 14, 2016 |
Unbrandedguy:Why are the northerners so afraid of the southerners leaving them, is it that they fully depend on the later or they are parasite, and if I may ask again, are the northerners Nigerian govt. Is better they wake up and struggle for themselves rather depending on one Nigeria to survive 3 Likes |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by obibanks: 2:20am On Jun 14, 2016 |
The truth is that the northerners just don't want to challenge themselves to improve. They are too comfortable living off on oil wealth 2 Likes |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by mikolo80: 2:23am On Jun 14, 2016 |
oweniwe:I am for development whether the cat is black or white so long as it catches mice. There is no total socialist or total capitalist state. You have to jam the 2. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by mikolo80: 2:25am On Jun 14, 2016 |
oweniwe:Hahahahahahaha where did you show me the section. I had to google it for your lazy ignorant illiterate asss. Awww maybe you can't read. Ehn sorry for insulting you. It's your teachers I should attack. Tell me what's their name. They must pay for this. Just damaged your life for nothing |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by mikolo80: 2:26am On Jun 14, 2016 |
oweniwe:I did not insult you. I said if you cannot prove your claim then tunda faya you and your followers. Clearly you are a functional illiterate (it means you can't read and comprehend bfor you say dis one to na insult) |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by Oildichotomy(m): 2:28am On Jun 14, 2016 |
WILLIAMS10: Please I am from the mid-west and I can't remember any problem with the current geo-political zone as being structured and they are just not. pockets of Igbo communities, they take about 11 LG out of 25 LGs of Delta state.
This is not a problem as earlier stated
Really? When does inter-marriages become a problem with secession? The worst case example of North and South Korea break is well managed as it is
Viability matters hence the need for true federalism as being clamoured for currently. Worst case we secede 2 Likes |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by Jonwesley(m): 2:29am On Jun 14, 2016 |
DEAFandDUMB: Aha, what Ur pictures say on your DP is more than being unclad. Are U not inferring same, or do U want repetitions of what have been said. How many pages now on this thread? 1 Like |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by compujyde: 2:40am On Jun 14, 2016 |
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Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by Ready4watever: 2:57am On Jun 14, 2016 |
mikolo80:Why did you spoil the lines I am bordering with you,you had a point until some how you got disconnected Any time you are driving a point,make sure you arrive before joining issue with anybody,all what the both Of you has been saying has been making a lot of sense until now,I urge you to go back to imparting,educating And streighteining,though I am a Bsc holder in economics,but I am left with nothing more to say cos you guys Has identified the points there is to point so,move on,moving on...ready4watever |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by Eluwilussit(m): 3:11am On Jun 14, 2016 |
DEAFandDUMB: Instead of getting irritated, you should have realized that I simply stated one of the biggest advantages and disadvantages that may result from a true federalism. I am not a proponent of Biafra but a true federalism, confederacy or regionalism will result in Biafra, either good or bad. A loose Centre, with so many embittered people from SS & SE, will definitely lead to trouble. What most of you guys don't understand is that true federalism gives each federating component a certain right to leave the federation, if it so desires. It is even worse with confederacy. Next time think before you bark. A short answer may make more sense than a thesis. Why are we so scared of anyone leaving? Any part of the nation that wants to leave is free. Nobody or region is indispensable. 1 Like |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by georgecso(m): 3:13am On Jun 14, 2016 |
Why are we clamouring for this so called true federalism? If you have these same set of yam eaters at every level of our society, true federalism cannot work. It goes beyond true federalism... Let's be honest with ourselves 5 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by Standing5(m): 3:46am On Jun 14, 2016 |
mikolo80:Stop being unnecesarily stubborn. The current federal system clearly breeds laziness. You are simply to proud to admit you got it wrong on this. 2 Likes |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by asgaladima: 3:55am On Jun 14, 2016 |
Yes Nigeria needs true federalism and not ethnic and religious sentiments because the major problem of our great nation is that ethnicity and religious sentiments we all are bunch of greedy people. for us to move forward we need to get rid of this habbit of ours. God blesss Federal Republic of Nigeria |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by adimsmt: 4:00am On Jun 14, 2016 |
mikolo80: Ignorance is really a disease. 1 Like |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by samhay: 4:02am On Jun 14, 2016 |
[quote author=DEAFandDUMB post=46541357] Guess u realised,calling d name with password works like magic 1 Like |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by mikolo80: 4:04am On Jun 14, 2016 |
adimsmt:yeah yet you couldn't answer one qsn? Who looks ignorant btw you and me? Person with facts or person with insults? |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by mikolo80: 4:07am On Jun 14, 2016 |
Standing5: Wait how does the fg breed laziness exactly. Imagine for example your father refused to pay your school fees so you won't look for alternative. Did the fg hold the govnor or senators. When they were looting did the fg stop them. Who is holding the Civil servants from farming when they know salary will not be steady.who is stopping... You know what I give up. When you become govnor.don't do anything. Spend 8 years blaming fg 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by Ebubeslym(m): 4:44am On Jun 14, 2016 |
mikolo80:Mr, you've been dancing around this thread spewing half truths and insulting anyone who has a different view. . Your opinion must'nt be right always. Learn to accept corrections. 2 Likes |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by tee10: 5:18am On Jun 14, 2016 |
mikolo80: Am very happy for Malaysia. However Nigeria is not Malaysia, clearly we do not have parliamentary democracy with a federal constitutional monarchy as d case in Malaysia Here its practically impossible for one man to hold such powers Planting cash crops is not the only route to develop Singapore did it without planting much crops Yes Dangota used NEPA and generators before he finally switched to generating his own power ( all ds have a huge cost implication) I agree with you on point state govt are not imaginative or creative enough Like I said u are d intellectual handicapped one here, u shamelessly throw Fashola's name around, if u must know he an advocate of True federalism His efforts were continually sabotaged by d over bearing FG he partially succeed cos he has a large economy to leverage/ bargain with, unlike most other state Your harlot mother certainly did not train you child, better face you studies in Malaysia. NB: Homework 4 u : Go get d 1999 constitution and read Read up on Tinube/ Fashola's tenune in Lagos Study Federal structure in Germany, Canada and United States Then u and I can have a debate 1 Like |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by elfico(m): 5:18am On Jun 14, 2016 |
Unbrandedguy:Good points you mentioned. I believe the advantages will really move Nigeria forward but people are scared of the disadvantages. Can we just practise a Nigerian form of true federalism where we have all the advantages and remove some of the disadvantages. In my opinion, the first disadvantage you mentioned there should not be part of our version of true federalism considering the diversity that we have. And I dont think Northern states will be very impoverished as we might like to believe. My reason for saying this is that I heard that when oil was discovered, the late Ahmadu Bello was excited because he believed that the discovery would distract the South from developing agriculture and therefore make the North an agricultural power house. I dont know how true the story is. On seccession, I read a wiki article that says during the motion for independence, AG sought to include a seccession clause in independence constitution as measure to prevent Lagos losing its cultural identity as the capital of Nigeria, but were hampered by the efforts of NCNC and NPC. I wonder how true that is. |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by tk4rd: 6:08am On Jun 14, 2016 |
That's Just That.. The reason why Nigeria never wanted true fedralism was not for the advantages, but for the fear of the DISADVANTAGES.. Unbrandedguy: |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by rottennaija(m): 6:11am On Jun 14, 2016 |
Eddygourdo: And how will a country as corrupt as Nigeria fare in such situation? |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by ibietela2(m): 6:19am On Jun 14, 2016 |
DEAFandDUMB: Alright you can start 1 Like |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by saintdennis(m): 6:29am On Jun 14, 2016 |
Oildichotomy: Bro NORTH and SOUTH Korea wasn't well managed always Google your thoughts b4 posting them. Some people will use that point of urs to argue blindly in some quarters. NORTH N SOUTH KOREA war (basically a proxy war btw U.S n Russia during the cold war) caused the war and eventual seperation of the two countries (not due to ethnicity or religion) but due to ideology. The soviets n Chinese occupied the north n u.s occupied the south. THOSE who were trapped in the south n north. Became the citizens..NOBODY WAS ALLOWED TO CROSS BORDERS! Till today 'reunification is one of the main campaign topics during elections (in the south). As for the north any one who tries to escape is SHOT! Sk or Nk are technically "still @ war" and tomorrow if an animal (chicken or lion) is seen crossing the DMZ IT WILL BE SHOT! That's how serious the situation is! 2 Likes |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by nonhuman(m): 6:35am On Jun 14, 2016 |
Eddygourdo:would there still going to be house of assembly if yes how will it be funded |
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