erusen:
am a big fan of federalism,people that fight against all either stupid northeners or core buharist,is only in Nigeria where we fail to take the right decision because of greed and party affiliation

DEAFandDUMB:


Am new here my dear... This forum houses great thinkers and eloquent political analyst I've ever come across.. How I wish most of our comments here will be published on national dailies...

DEAFandDUMB:


So funny my dear.. But you might be right oooo.. I will make hard copies of all the comments on this thread and forward it to the national assembly for them to study and act on it..

mikolo80:
mention 3 characteristics of true federalism I dare you.

masseratti:
well we know fully well that politicos do come to nairaland, even people in aso rock.
You welcome btw.

jjk24:
pls do, let the process be open and use the social media well enof ,u feel me?

mikolo80:
I should be a westerner but I'm referred to as middle belt. I am a minority in my state. But we know how we make our voice heard. All you do is complain on nairaland.

Define restructuring.
You can't.
I can bet my life on it.
You don't even know what it means. Even with dictionary.
Describe true federalism. Same as above.

We complained during slavery
Complained during colonisation
Complained during first republic
Complained during military rule
Complained second republic
Complained from three states
To 9 states
To 19 states
To 36 states
Parliamentary to presidential
Option a 4 to the nonsense we have now.
Without complain epp?
Now it's poor true federalism we want to blame.
Japan and Singapore have no single resource. Other countries rejected them.Israel's surrounded by hostile desert and hostile neighbours. Yet they have thrived .
Federalism de him house de relax una just de blast him name anyhow.

DEAFandDUMB:

Thanks for the insight dear.. I just hope our big brothers over there at the Aso rock will go through this thread and act on it.. A lot has been voiced out here and high percentage of the comments contains all that Nigeria needs to get things right once again..

Eddygourdo:
and you feel knowing what true federalism means is intellgence ? A moot and valueless subject like O level government ? Is that what you are bragging about ? You say u are a researcher ? You do extensive research , I say let's prove it and ur running away. I will ask you two questions and offer you one million naira. If you get it in a week it shall be yours. Even in ur dreams you won't be able to,

Let me school you abit since you are still at that level, knowledge and intelligence are very differnt. Knowledge is data , intellegence is usefui information. Apparently all you have in ur head is data, a typical nigerian product of cram and pour. You asking me a question that google can answer, I will ask u a question that google can't answer.

Never in ur life again should who feel fly for knowing the definition of federalism and yet not having the inteligence of what are its implications , merits or demerits. Read the type of questions you asking. Like a child. what are the types of fedralism? Imagine that. We talking models u talking crap.


Mr man , you not intelligent, I need intelligent people who will create and apply existing knwoledge, not someone who regurgitates what he has crammed and can relate that with his environment for any analysis.

Post ur name here. I want to know ur standing in our community, cos we know oursleves, and I don't know you

masseratti:
well for now they wont do anything, power intoxicate, if you are not there yet you can complain, once you do get there its difficult to let go of the power, the main source of power is not guns or force only but resources.

Btw you cant be the one on your dp.... if thats you.. hmmmmmm you are hot.. and so that pervs dont kill your inbox, just replace it with something else.

Tunda faya you and all your descendants

It's section 308 you bastard son of wh0re

sorry for insulting you. It's your teachers I should attack.

tunda faya you and your followers.

Clearly you are a functional illiterate

oweniwe:


DEAFandDUMB ... It's your thread ... I believe you saw all the trash he posted.

Please try and maintain sanity on your thread by cautioning folks who use strong words and abusive languages here... Cos things like these repulse people from participating...

If anyone insults me here again, I'm out.

tibaonnet:
When the Central system is weaken & states are given more power. Pls is this Federalism or Confederationism?.

DEAFandDUMB:


You've done a great job sir.. Well done..
Talking about national conference, I thought we just had one or the resolution of the confab report not OK to you?.. Am yawning to learn more from you Sir..


Meanwhile DSS will very much appreciate your kind of high caliber eyes in their fight against corruption..
Lol

mikolo80:
I should be a westerner but I'm referred to as middle belt. I am a minority in my state. But we know how we make our voice heard. All you do is complain on nairaland.

Define restructuring.
You can't.
I can bet my life on it.
You don't even know what it means. Even with dictionary.
Describe true federalism. Same as above.

We complained during slavery
Complained during colonisation
Complained during first republic
Complained during military rule
Complained second republic
Complained from three states
To 9 states
To 19 states
To 36 states
Parliamentary to presidential
Option a 4 to the nonsense we have now.
Without complain epp?
Now it's poor true federalism we want to blame.
Japan and Singapore have no single resource. Other countries rejected them.Israel's surrounded by hostile desert and hostile neighbours. Yet they have thrived .
Federalism de him house de relax una just de blast him name anyhow.

DEAFandDUMB:



Thanks a lot Sir for that fatherly advice.. I will switch the picture immediately..

Jonwesley:


Certainly, I welcome the resolutions of the confab with whole heart. What a beauty to behold Nigerians gather to talk their differences. How I wish the national assembly can do the needful on those resolutions. That's would be a way to solving the impasse created and douse the cravings from agitators.

Now discussing the National confab here will be a huge digression from your topic. Maybe again as an enlightened mind you can raise that topic another time.

Your humour caught me unawares, but I'm available to help the DSS on my ability to xray body parts without going inside or body unclad. Wao! A killer pose and such curves can be a bait to a hungry or starved homosapiens.

mikolo80:
who stopped you from planting Palm oyel and Co. building refinery and industrial parks
.you just complain,no effort to fix what you can. is it not the same thieves that will come to rule at state level
mention the power that states do not have. you no fit. it's sad that you are the ppl we have to campaign to soon

DEAFandDUMB:



Thanks a lot Sir for that fatherly advice.. I will switch the picture immediately..

Eddygourdo:
Its the exact opposite of what we have, today power is concentrated at the centre at federal level, yet the closet government to the people is the state and local, the federal government generates funds from critucal areas of the country and shares this proceeds on a fixed formular to the states. This method is flawed because it has renderedd us a mono economy heavily dependent on oil. We haven't been able to tap the resources in other states and its very difficult for the dividends on democracy to reach the common man. Thus true federalism in this context is based majorly on resource control. Power must shift to the regions, we must weaken the government at the centre and transfer power to the regions. This means states would generate and develop their regions with whatever exists there while the contribute a token to the centre for running federal units like the military and unuversities. This implies that nigeria woould become a diversified economy faster in that structure than in our current one. That system reduces the importance of the president on local affairs and eliminantes traibal and religious bias in politics, as regional head have to contest amongst his or her own people unlike in the current structure

DEAFandDUMB:


Sorry about that Sir .. Will try and call him to order..
Please don't leave..

mikolo80:
no my patriotic but ignorant brother, laziness bred laziness. it has nothing to do with system of govt. how is it systems fault that ppl refuse to hold their councillor to task.

mikolo80:


Wait how does the fg breed laziness exactly.
Imagine for example
your father refused to pay your school fees so you won't look for alternative. Did the fg hold the govnor or senators. When they were looting did the fg stop them. Who is holding the Civil servants from farming when they know salary will not be steady.who is stopping... You know what I give up. When you become govnor.don't do anything. Spend 8 years blaming fg

hysteriabox:


nice points sir. However, i have a few concerns which u seem well learned to help clear out.

1. Has federalism practically worked in any nation in Africa where ethnic/religious diversity is heavily present? Cos it may work in Europe or US but they dont have these peculiar problems

2. Will it not have a negative impact of patriotism? Cos our ethnic bigotry has eaten deep, it ll only be a matter of time before a region gets powerful enough to threaten and eventually form a colony
3. What ll be its impacton our unity? Cos no zone ll seat and allow any other zone to use its resources to find footing in a bid to be financially free
4. How accountable and responsible ll each zone be to d FG. Each zone ll practically be more powerful than d FG, and constant demand for accountability/responsibility may lead to outright rebellion. Especially when d president is not prefered by some zones. Imagine PMB telling d east to put their books together...or GEJ telling d north dsame
5. Will an already running region in terms of resources-like d ND- be willing to help other regions kick start their quest for development by allowing their proceeds to be used? Now that wont happen. D enmity on ground wont allow for such.

Please respond sir. Tnx

babasoadaj:
MY OPINION.....
A. The time to plan true federalism is NOW. PMB shld encourage each region to develop a long term plan to develop themselves. At least 4 GOOD GUYS from each state shld be member of the THINK TANK for each region. Give them 2 years to map out the strategies to develop that region.
B. ALL the region shld have a single account with the CENTRAL BANK at the Federal. ALL transactions go thru the central bank TSA account of that region. Federal government collects 40% of all transactions from d regions to run the MILITARY...ADMINISTRATION......POLICE......RESEARCH.......SUPERVISION
REGIONAL CBN work in tandem with FEDERAL CBN who periodically make available d accounts of each region known to their people. REGIONS shld have access to their money 24/7
C. REGIONAL POLICE shld be under d control of the FEDERAL POLICE. Recruitment shld be done in such a way that trained police shld be sent to their states to work. Federal police constituted in such a way that all the regions are EQUALLY represented. Having six inspector general of police at the federal police level is not a bad idea.
D. DEATH PENALTY FOR CORRUPT PUBLIC OFFICIALS AND FORFEITURE OF THE ASSETS OF PRIVATE CORPORATIONS INVOLVED IN ANY FORM OF CORRUPTION SHOULD BE BOLDLY WRITTEN IN OUR CONSTITUTION. EFCC shld be maintained at d federal level.
E. Correct database for each region shld be maintained. NIN/BVN is compulsory to access services.Preliminary NIN shld be issued at the point of birth....labour ward.....Primary,secondary and tertiary health centers........and later validated with Population commission before the age of 2.
F.FREE COMPULSORY EDUCATION up to SS3 in all the regions. Sponsored by the region but supervised by the FG. JAMB SHLD CONDUCT SSCE n UTME
G. NIG DEFENCE ACADEMY RESTRUCTURED. Equal number of cadets from each region shld be taken yearly. Promotion of officers shld cut across each region and based strictly on merit.


Finally.......

I want to thank NL admin for starting this thread. I think we shld be seen using the internet to plan our future.

Eddygourdo:
Its the exact opposite of what we have, today power is concentrated at the centre at federal level, yet the closet government to the people is the state and local, the federal government generates funds from critucal areas of the country and shares this proceeds on a fixed formular to the states. This method is flawed because it has renderedd us a mono economy heavily dependent on oil. We haven't been able to tap the resources in other states and its very difficult for the dividends on democracy to reach the common man. Thus true federalism in this context is based majorly on resource control. Power must shift to the regions, we must weaken the government at the centre and transfer power to the regions. This means states would generate and develop their regions with whatever exists there while the contribute a token to the centre for running federal units like the military and unuversities. This implies that nigeria woould become a diversified economy faster in that structure than in our current one. That system reduces the importance of the president on local affairs and eliminantes traibal and religious bias in politics, as regional head have to contest amongst his or her own people unlike in the current structure

mikolo80:
one question.
no critical thinking involved.
who built this American system you gush about.?
it fell from heaven ba.?
think or at least do extensive research bfor you insult ppl you don't know on subjects you are I'll informed to comment on.

I challenge you to mention the part of the ''system '' that stops a governor from developing his state.
fashola was opposed by obj/pdp when he achieved most of his achievements in Lagos o.

saintdennis:


Bro NORTH and SOUTH Korea wasn't well managed always Google your thoughts b4 posting them.

Some people will use that point of urs to argue blindly in some quarters.

NORTH N SOUTH KOREA war (basically a proxy war btw U.S n Russia during the cold war) caused the war and eventual seperation of the two countries (not due to ethnicity or religion) but due to ideology. The soviets n Chinese occupied the north n u.s occupied the south.

THOSE who were trapped in the south n north. Became the citizens..NOBODY WAS ALLOWED TO CROSS BORDERS!
Till today 'reunification is one of the main campaign topics during elections (in the south). As for the north any one who tries to escape is SHOT!

Sk or Nk are technically "still @ war" and tomorrow if an animal (chicken or lion) is seen crossing the DMZ IT WILL BE SHOT! That's how serious the situation is!

lionshare:
From this thread the problem of this country can be ascertained...

Oildichotomy:
I was expecting this line of rebuttal which is quite typical of Nairaland arguments.

I was very much aware of the tense situation hence I used worst while describing it. so save the Google epistle you reeled out.

You simply took the North & South Korea worst case example I gave and made a meal out of it

Eddygourdo:
A new structure would have a lot of benefits to the people. Especially in areas of delivering the dividends of democracy to the masses. Nigeria is plagues by divisiveness which has hampered our development, strengthing the regions bridges that gap on tribal and religious bias, people will feel more xomfortable with their leaders, this structure will ensure a disjointed development approach. Where states focus on their areas of comparative advantages. Many states in nigeria lie dormant with resopect to their over all contribution. Developments at state and local levels will aim at creating emerging markets and job growth. the growth of any region will be dependent on the mental nous of the governor of that region as as well as the supposrting regional government arms.


The advantages of a decentralized system is so great especially in a divisive nigerian system