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Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by Nobody: 8:33am On Jun 14, 2016 |
erusen:The north would never accept True fiscal federalism in this nation called Nigeria. The present system of states is advantageous to the North more than any other geopolitical divisions. The present revenue sharing formula is based on population, land mass, no of LGAs in a state and lastly VAT generated in the component states.With true federalism, we are talking of resources control, Unification or merging of states and regional autonomy. Take for instance, all the states in the present format were created by the military rulers of Nigeria and by fate, they were all from the Northern parts of the country. A situation where Kano state has 44 local governments based on land mass and no of cattles says a lot about the power to be.An embarrassing situation where the national census results stated that Kano state is more densEly populated than Lagos, A situation where Abuja that was supposed to be built over 50 years was transformed in less than 10years with the resources and the oil and gas wealth of Niger delta. Where on earth do we want the north to survive their parasitic mode of life? We are talking about agriculture, they are the largest beneficiary, coz all the expanse dams constructed by the federal government of the north for the North with the oil wealth of Niger delta was done mainly with uttermost destructions of the Niger delta environments. A situation where all the oil blocks in Nigeria belongs to the northerners does not speaks well of hausa fulani type of federalism. The average hausa fulani believes he or she was born to rule in the zoo republic. The president from daura body's language says it all. He has appointed almost all his entire core carbinet from the north coz of his hidden hatred for the southerners. Should we continue this topic or debate we might not be able to conclude coz the facts are steering at us .One day one day the fear of the northerners will turn to a reality. The true federalism dt they are allergic to will see the light of the day.This is the only way the wrongs of the past can be corrected. Thanks. 2 Likes |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by masseratti: 8:34am On Jun 14, 2016 |
DEAFandDUMB:well we know fully well that politicos do come to nairaland, even people in aso rock. You welcome btw. 2 Likes |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by jjk24(m): 8:35am On Jun 14, 2016 |
DEAFandDUMB:pls do, let the process be open and use the social media well enof ,u feel me? 1 Like |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by APRIDE(m): 8:37am On Jun 14, 2016 |
mikolo80: They are: 1) Resource control 2) Free and fair election in its true sense 3) True separation of power 1 Like |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by DEAFandDUMB(f): 8:38am On Jun 14, 2016 |
masseratti:Thanks for the insight dear.. I just hope our big brothers over there at the Aso rock will go through this thread and act on it.. A lot has been voiced out here and high percentage of the comments contains all that Nigeria needs to get things right once again.. |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by DEAFandDUMB(f): 8:40am On Jun 14, 2016 |
jjk24:Yes Sir.. I feel you Sir.. Thanks. 1 Like |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by ImpersonatorSS: 8:40am On Jun 14, 2016 |
mikolo80: I knew it! You can never be a westerner. No true westerner will post like you do on this issue. What I am asking for in plain terms are these: 1. I want my state governor to have full control over all the solid mineral in the state. He be able to exploit and explore it as he deems fit and pay taxes to the FG instead of waiting for monthly federal allocation from the FG. 2. I want my state governor to have control of the security of my state to a certain extent. That's all! This current system has failed!! 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by masseratti: 8:46am On Jun 14, 2016 |
DEAFandDUMB:well for now they wont do anything, power intoxicate, if you are not there yet you can complain, once you do get there its difficult to let go of the power, the main source of power is not guns or force only but resources. Btw you cant be the one on your dp.... if thats you.. hmmmmmm you are hot.. and so that pervs dont kill your inbox, just replace it with something else. 2 Likes |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by APRIDE(m): 8:47am On Jun 14, 2016 |
Eddygourdo: Why does everything in nairaland have to end in conflicts? We had a good discussion going on. |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by DEAFandDUMB(f): 8:52am On Jun 14, 2016 |
masseratti: Thanks a lot Sir for that fatherly advice.. I will switch the picture immediately.. |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by oweniwe(m): 8:53am On Jun 14, 2016 |
DEAFandDUMB ... It's your thread ... I believe you saw all the trash he posted. Please try and maintain sanity on your thread by cautioning folks who use strong words and abusive languages here... Cos things like these repulse people from participating... If anyone insults me here again, I'm out. |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by DEAFandDUMB(f): 8:56am On Jun 14, 2016 |
oweniwe: Sorry about that Sir .. Will try and call him to order.. Please don't leave.. |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by DEAFandDUMB(f): 9:02am On Jun 14, 2016 |
tibaonnet:Please lecture us if you have the time.. Thanks. |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by Jonwesley(m): 9:04am On Jun 14, 2016 |
DEAFandDUMB: Certainly, I welcome the resolutions of the confab with whole heart. What a beauty to behold Nigerians gather to talk their differences. How I wish the national assembly can do the needful on those resolutions. That's would be a way to solving the impasse created and douse the cravings from agitators. Now discussing the National confab here will be a huge digression from your topic. Maybe again as an enlightened mind you can raise that topic another time. Your humour caught me unawares, but I'm available to help the DSS on my ability to xray body parts without going inside or body unclad. Wao! A killer pose and such curves can be a bait to a hungry or starved homosapiens. |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by masseratti: 9:09am On Jun 14, 2016 |
mikolo80:i think alot of people have tried to ignore you on this thread after your debacle with that guy yesterday, but I understand your point of view, we ve had it all and we still complained, I dont know who complained in 1966 when Unitarian Government style was adopted, the military naturally used their own chain of command on the system and we became a unitary state, Nigeria is not the only country military took power and foisted their system of command on the structure, Ghana did but When Military left they went back to the previous system they had. We are different people, if i cant go up north and have a bottle of beer the way i do here in the south, we are not one,we differ in alot of things yet we deceive ourselves that we are one. Resources control, true federalism and let me add a true republic, bottom up development is the only way out. 2 Likes |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by masseratti: 9:15am On Jun 14, 2016 |
DEAFandDUMB:fatherly ke? no ooo... trust me, you dont want to see my picture on my dp.... unnecessary attention girls, ladies all sorts, av got enough from my real life, let me find solace in an online faceless forums, Nairaland and Reddit is good enough for me, not yet a father tho,love to be pretty soon. Nice to have a beauty and brain here, if thats really you cos I still doubt it. 1 Like |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by DEAFandDUMB(f): 9:15am On Jun 14, 2016 |
Jonwesley: Am humbled Sir. Issues of National interest need to be brought here for justice to be done on it.. Am highly marveled at the level of great thinkers we have here yet Nigeria is still backward in virtually all sectors.. Thanks a lot for your great comments.. Young ones like myself have learnt more than just enough on this thread.. 1 Like |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by chukuli(m): 9:17am On Jun 14, 2016 |
mikolo80:u are an idiot 2 Likes |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by Jonwesley(m): 9:18am On Jun 14, 2016 |
DEAFandDUMB: No now, because of what he said? But he enjoyed what he saw. Why trying to deprive others of such a beauty to behold. Be bold to accept your blessings as endowed by God. Nothing is wrong about the DP. Don't switch please. 2 Likes |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by hysteriabox(m): 9:21am On Jun 14, 2016 |
Eddygourdo: nice points sir. However, i have a few concerns which u seem well learned to help clear out. 1. Has federalism practically worked in any nation in Africa where ethnic/religious diversity is heavily present? Cos it may work in Europe or US but they dont have these peculiar problems 2. Will it not have a negative impact of patriotism? Cos our ethnic bigotry has eaten deep, it ll only be a matter of time before a region gets powerful enough to threaten and eventually form a colony 3. What ll be its impacton our unity? Cos no zone ll seat and allow any other zone to use its resources to find footing in a bid to be financially free 4. How accountable and responsible ll each zone be to d FG. Each zone ll practically be more powerful than d FG, and constant demand for accountability/responsibility may lead to outright rebellion. Especially when d president is not prefered by some zones. Imagine PMB telling d east to put their books together...or GEJ telling d north dsame 5. Will an already running region in terms of resources-like d ND- be willing to help other regions kick start their quest for development by allowing their proceeds to be used? Now that wont happen. D enmity on ground wont allow for such. Please respond sir. Tnx 1 Like |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by oweniwe(m): 9:22am On Jun 14, 2016 |
DEAFandDUMB: Okay... Personally... I don't understand why Northerners are against restructuring the country even when they know the present system is also improverishing them. After producing most of the country ' s rulers, they still don't have anything to show for it and are even worse than the south in terms of human capital development. The fact that people divorce doesn't stop people from getting married .... So why should the fear of secession make them stand so strongly against fiscal federalism, regionalism or confederation? All these talks about Nigeria disintergrating... Forget it... No sane Nigerian wants Nigeria to break because we all have interests in other parts of the country. But I cannot say... Because we stand to lose properties or whatever, ... That doesnt mean We should continue to endure bad government, dilapidated infrastructure, epileptic power supply till heavens know when Nigeria will overcome all these challenges with the present system of government. Properties /Business can be rebuilt within 10-15 years so the fear of lose properties or business does not scare me. I just hate it when... Before I can do anything, I have to go lick federal bum bum before I can do what I want to do... It discourages investments. If they will restructure the country, fine... But if they don't agree, I cannot continue to endure Nigeria the way it is. Person is eating jeje at restaurant and police stray bullet go shot am dead... What kind of nonsense is that? Everybody should go their way jare. 2 Likes |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by 49cents(m): 9:24am On Jun 14, 2016 |
mikolo80: Necessity is the mother of invention Your argument for pro-active citizenry is anything but realistic of practical. Why do you think that kids from poor backgrounds use their talents more than their counterparts who never experienced hunger for a day?
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Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by Standing5(m): 9:51am On Jun 14, 2016 |
mikolo80:Use ur brain bros n stop using stupíd example of a father not paying your sch fees. Why didn't aregbesola pursue his 'profitable' cocoa or cashew nut venture when oil sold for record high amount? Why is he investing in cocoa when now that the state is in debt? Use ur brain and stop advancing silly argument. You said "who held the people from farming?", the easy oil money did. If the money wasn't there, people would be farming and the government would be supporting them with infrastructures like dams, irrigation and storages to boost profit and therefore tax with which to fund its activities if it didn't have alternative of easy oil money available. |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by oweniwe(m): 10:01am On Jun 14, 2016 |
hysteriabox: 1. No sane Nigerian wants it to disintegrate.... America is like that.. though they have their differences, they are not unitarized like Nigeria ... If u gives states/regions resources /financial freedom ... Honestly, they will be satisfied. What you didn't ask is... Why would states want to break away? You know the causes of the Nigerian civil war... Were the grievances of the eastern region addressed by Gowon led FG? Look at the woman who was killed for blasphemy in kano... Thousand of southerners from the east (not only igbos) were mudered like that... What did the FG do to resolved the grievances? Nothing Aburi accord was there... Did gowon adhere to it? No It's like marriage ... If you sit down with your husband / wife and work out ur differences... Ur marriage will last long its the same with reverting to regionalism... If the FG plays diplomatic /mediatory role... Even courts will be there to settle disputes... Everybody will be satisfied. 2. There's nothing like patriotism in Nigeria today... It only when they want to share money or success, that is when they are patriotic... Every other thing is tribe...!!.. Who patriotism don help sef? Will patriotism fill my belle? When agencies of government oppress the people, how will you have patriotism? If a German, American or Chinese wants to die for their country, I will understand because the government takes care of their people ... Now ask me if I can die for Nigeria ... Am I mad? Look at IDPs... Flood /disaster camps in the country ... It is the states that are managing them... Awolowo ' s free Education did magic for the western region ... If fiscal federalism will make states take Better care of their citizens, I'm all for it. 3&4 are related to my answers in 1 and 2... 5.. the same way states borrow funds... Loans, bonds, bilateral loans, BOOT and other numerous financing options ... They will take care of their needs that way.. Why should Kano give free money to Zamfara to blow? 2 Likes |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by Zoehill(m): 10:06am On Jun 14, 2016 |
babasoadaj: Baba, you have said it all. If i am in a position to give you a national honor..............surely you will have 1 Long Live Baba....... |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by Nakuza(m): 10:15am On Jun 14, 2016 |
Eddygourdo:I love this. |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by Stevez32(m): 10:18am On Jun 14, 2016 |
mikolo80: Your last sentence underlined how dumb you are. So fashola was governor during obj's tenure? Do you live in a cave? 1 Like |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by Oildichotomy(m): 10:20am On Jun 14, 2016 |
saintdennis:I was expecting this line of rebuttal which is quite typical of Nairaland arguments. I was very much aware of the tense situation hence I used worst while describing it. so save the Google epistle you reeled out. You simply took the North & South Korea worst case example I gave and made a meal out of it |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by daveson2020(m): 10:25am On Jun 14, 2016 |
First of all, Nigeria is not a nation, Nigeria is a country. Then about the federalism of a thing I think we need to try it out because we have been practicing this one but it wasn't working. If we try fiscal federalism and fail then the best thing to do is to divide the country. Toyourtent ohh Israel! |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by forgiveness: 10:48am On Jun 14, 2016 |
lionshare: Bros, what is the form of government the UK is practicing? Where three or four countries in one but is controlled by one government. Each countries have their own police, assemble, athletes representing them international, and control their resources etc. |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by saintdennis(m): 10:52am On Jun 14, 2016 |
Oildichotomy: I don't need lessons in comprehension dude...i'm jes letting u know the north-korea example is one u shouldn't use to defend your stance. That worst case scenario u mentioning right now can lead to a world war so I only pointed out why it was a bad thing to add. #simple. |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by Kay17: 11:00am On Jun 14, 2016 |
Eddygourdo: 1. Would the new regions solve the issue of tribal and ethnic bias or promote it? 2. How large would the regions be? 3. How much independence would they be given? 4. Can Federalism be too much? 5. How would the Conflicts between the regions be resolved? 6. Is this Federalism centred around natural resources? 7. Does the failure and lack of imagination of the present State and local government damage the prospects of federalism? |
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