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Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by ImpersonatorSS: 9:30pm On Jun 14, 2016 |
mikolo80: Restructuring of the polity must lead to at least the ffg 2 scenarios: 1. Resource control by the states 2. State police If you dont see anything wrong with this structure, then you must be a dullard. I shouldnt be surprised;you are parasitic abooooki. 1 Like |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by mikolo80: 9:49pm On Jun 14, 2016 |
Shewunoshewa:first of you are the dullard. South Sudan now has resource control Is there peace or development? Can you see that is not our problem but slowpokes like you who think one magic wave will change everything. Just like we were shouting we want democracy. Shebi our eye don de clear now. I don't mind state police but even in the USA you still have to take cases to Supreme Court and as long as it is dull ppl like you in the police or judiciary they can and will be bribed. I repeat ppl like you are the problem. No matter the system that is employed |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by EverestdeBliu(m): 10:16pm On Jun 14, 2016 |
Eddygourdo:isi gi nor there! |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by Oracle16(m): 10:42pm On Jun 14, 2016 |
mikolo80: I didn't insult you, I just stated the fact. It's better to be silent than to comment bla bla |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by mikolo80: 10:53pm On Jun 14, 2016 |
Oracle16: You said my '' kind '' are responsible for Nigeria's un development. The only ''kind '' are thieves rogues and cowards. I am none of these. So yes you did insult me. By saying I collect Rice to vote. By lumping me with unintelligent life forms. You insulted me. Go and learn what insults means. Google is your friend if you don't know how to use a dictionary. |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by VERDA: 10:57pm On Jun 14, 2016 |
mikolo80: Oga was it not the same system that worked before this present system?the america your calling practices true federalism,Saudi and other Arab countries are more dictatorial,and practice more of sharia law,since you claim any system will work provided the people are right,try practicing sharia rule in the whole of Nigeria,nobody is advocating that it should enthroned immediately so ur rant about waiting for me to enthrone it is quiet childish,nobody is saying it should be enthroned tomorrow but until will start working towards it,we will keep having these conflicts and our governors will keep looking to the federal government for everything. |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by Oracle16(m): 10:58pm On Jun 14, 2016 |
mikolo80: Lol. I will put you in prayers. It is well with you. |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by masseratti: 11:04pm On Jun 14, 2016 |
mikolo80:my brother, barbaric methods is not the way out but Civi. |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by mikolo80: 11:16pm On Jun 14, 2016 |
masseratti:would you be civil with Hitler.? |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by mikolo80: 11:18pm On Jun 14, 2016 |
Oracle16:who tell you say anything do me bfor? |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by mikolo80: 11:23pm On Jun 14, 2016 |
VERDA:so you will not move forward until you get true federalism abi Awolowo didn't wait for even fake federalis He just did it (free education) What is stopping the 36 regions from doing the little in their power Remember the servants God gave talents in the Bible. You refuse to use your own, yet your eye is another person's own |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by VERDA: 11:31pm On Jun 14, 2016 |
mikolo80: Well...since you have refused to understand where i am coming from i rest my case,am i a law maker that would push directly for true federalism?all i can do at this point is to keep advocating for it the best way i can,as the consciousness spreads so will the chances in the future,and as for your statement about me waiting for it,I am actually practicing true federalism in my life lol,i dont depend on anybody or institution for my survival,if you were a business person you would have understood my point about systems being so important. |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by mikolo80: 11:39pm On Jun 14, 2016 |
VERDA:and you are not seeing mine. Do you think anybody will take Jesus or Moses or any of the almighty's servants serious without miracles (superior argument). Grammar will never solve it. Fix your state and others will follow your ideology. Speak grammar like Wole Soyinka and you will just grow white hair for nothing. You think I'm fighting you. No, I'm fighting ignorance because I know God can put any of you here in power just as he did with the ineffectual buffoons. But if you're ignorant you will go there and fumble just like them when it's so easy to excel |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by tee10: 11:50pm On Jun 14, 2016 |
mikolo80: You foolishly said there not difference between a parliamentary system and Presidential system Need I school you on this? What a waste... You have been wasting your corrupt bastards hausa parents money in Malaysia 1 Like |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by VERDA: 11:52pm On Jun 14, 2016 |
mikolo80: Ignorance is refusing to see the truth...enjoy bro. |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by jagojunior(m): 11:52pm On Jun 14, 2016 |
biafratwo: Let's call a spade a spade and quit beating around the bush. What y'all are looking for is secession, it is as simple as ABC. Like I said, I'm a realist and it's better you shoot straight than going round a viscous cycle pretending about your true intention. If regionalism comes into play today, what will be the sanction on zones that violate remitting of the agreed percent to the centre? What will be the negotiating chip by the government at the centre? OR Is it the same center that currently wields enormous power yet powerless to query the states to account for fund utilisation that will hold an empowered zone (through regionalism) accountable? Maybe You are thinking that respect and sanity will only return when power is stripped off an already weak (but wrongly tagged powerful) center that controls almost all resources in the country yet disrespected by every Tom, Dick and Harry living in Nigeria on a daily basis. Please, think again and this time from a different perspective. Viewing through my lens: Bottom line is this, any call for regionalism/resource control/true federalism etc right now is a call for secession and the truth is that GREED is the true reason behind that call. I don't want to be a prophet of doom but brotherly, the last time some over zealous soldiers changed the system of resource control in Nigeria (ie decree 34), a civil war broke out. Today, same group is the brain behind pushing for a reverse in the system to what was before decree 34. Trust me, another civil war will follow. If it wasn't greed to control all the resources in every region by those that brought this system upon us, why the promulgation of decree 34 that year? They thought they will live forever and have supreme access to everybody's resources. Karma is a fvcking Dam. The table turned and the music quickly changed. Nigerian history as a compulsory course should be introduced in primary and secondary schools to help us appreciate how far we have come and how we can navigate the dangerous bend we have found ourselves. Please, disabuse your minds of the illusion that regionalism is the magic wand that will turn everything around for us as a nation. I will echo it again, value reorientation (especially the leaders) is what we need now. We have come a very long way as a Nation, any attempt to actualize this wishful thought of regionalism/secession/resource control will only bring war. There are no losers or winners of a war, we all share from both sides of the divide maybe a little bit unevenly. Reality check should tell us that the country is too messed up and unripe for any of these right now. A word they said is enough. However, que sera sera. Shalom! #My1kobo 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by mikolo80: 11:55pm On Jun 14, 2016 |
tee10: I said what's the difference. That's a qsn genius And I'm very sure Wo don't know Hence your transparent attempt at bluster. You don't have a case (if not you would have stated it) Insult is all you've got. Nothing else. Reminds me of orubebe. All the gragra won't change nathing till you can convince majority |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by mikolo80: 11:55pm On Jun 14, 2016 |
tee10: I said what's the difference. That's a qsn genius And I'm very sure Wo don't know Hence your transparent attempt at bluster. You don't have a case (if not you would have stated it) Insult is all you've got. Nothing else. Reminds me of orubebe. All the gragra won't change nathing till you can convince majority This latest outburst shows that you're failing at this badly |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by mikolo80: 12:01am On Jun 15, 2016 |
VERDA:ignorance is not knowing. Refusing to see the truth is what you're doing If e sure for you for tell agbero to go and sleep and I bet you will never repeat that statement again in public |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by tee10: 12:16am On Jun 15, 2016 |
mikolo80: I don't need to convince you or any majority! Frankly I don't care what you or any other incompetent folks in APC or PDP do with Nigeria I don't know the difference between a parliamentary system and Presidential system?..see this hausa boi born in 1980 Am no illiterate like you, who can't cope in Harvard, Stanford or Oxford but runs off to one under d bridge school in Malaysia You started the insults on the thread and did showed your ignorance Now I guess u are back to you senses, cos u seem to have dropped d insults I believe we have driven some sense into you by now Have a nice life! |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by VERDA: 12:27am On Jun 15, 2016 |
[quote author=mikolo80 post=46581876]ignorance is not knowing. Refusing to see the truth is what you're doing If e sure for you for tell agbero to go and sleep and I bet you will never repeat that statement again in public[/quote My brother sometimes when you do know something, it is because you do not see the truth,and if you continue deciding not to see the truth you will continue not knowing,that was the point I was trying to make,stop trying to be overly intelligent,we r saying the same thing,its not a pissing contest,stop taking it personal.Goodnight. |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by mikolo80: 12:30am On Jun 15, 2016 |
[quote author=VERDA post=46582148][/quote]it is a pissing contest. You insult me I will reply. If you don't can't take the heat don't even mention me. Just stay your lane. |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by mikolo80: 12:45am On Jun 15, 2016 |
tee10:now shall we begin |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by tee10: 1:07am On Jun 15, 2016 |
mikolo80: Now homosexual, son of a goat this my last back and forth with you Cos I don't care how you or anyone else run Nigeria a falling state populated by un cultured animals, religious extremist and ISIS folks like u Again I refuse to be your teacher, u should have learnt dt in school But then again u are dullard, a fool your world starts and ends with your koran, can't see beyond it Finally be sure to visit ISIS camps in malaysia after all ur ambition in life is 72 virgins LOL When you get to hell, hoop up with your harlot mother see needs u to f**k her pussy Burn in hell 1 Like |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by mikolo80: 1:12am On Jun 15, 2016 |
tee10:bastard |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by mikolo80: 1:13am On Jun 15, 2016 |
tee10:mumu why you de run |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by ImpersonatorSS: 7:02am On Jun 15, 2016 |
mikolo80: First, South Sudan got independence not resource control. After, the common enemy was gone, the tribes turned on each other. Having said that, didnt the US also fight a civil war shortly after independence. Did it stop them from being a great nation eventually? Have you seen the end of South Sudan? Are you a loon@tic? What of countries that are successfully practising true federalism? Do they have 2 heads? Dont you know that true federalism provides many checks and balances for a highly diverse country like ours? Checks that dont exist and cant be enforced in this current system? |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by engrhorla(m): 7:26am On Jun 15, 2016 |
jagojunior: Nice write up there! But have you considered this: when a northerner is in power @ d centre, some southern militants raise there heads; when a southerner is in power, some northern militants raise there heads! Ho w best do we as a nation handle this? PS: this thread to the best of my knowledge is for knowledge sharing and we never know the great resolution that could come out of it. Hence, I will appeal to everyone to constructively 'attack' the subject..all malicious and verbal abuses is of no use! Let's refrain from it..it is possible. God bless 1 Like |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by biafratwo: 9:51am On Jun 15, 2016 |
jagojunior:The topic is on federalism, it’s advantages and disadvantages plus we want to weigh the options so as to determine what’s best for the already failing country. But you have just laid bare your fears and it’s ok for obvious reasons as you have somehow outlined in your post. Fact still remains glaring. The incessant calls for secession and the public backlash against the government is because the current system has failed woefully. Federalism and it’s many variants is an optimal solution for states comprising different cultural and/or ethnic communities and may just be the solution to the countries problem even though it is not without its demerits. Viewing through your lense: 1. You should not be afraid federalism would bring about secession. Even if it does, what do you have to loose? Have you not had enough already? 2. GREED is still the bane of the current system. It is evident in party power tussles. So what? It is still certain death both ways. Value reorientation alone is not enough and we both know that. Bottom line: Federalism may just be the solution. #OurTwoKobos 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by Jerrymax01(m): 9:57am On Jun 15, 2016 |
Firstly I will like the appreciate the brain behind this topic @ DEAFandDUMB, keep it up!.. I will also love to preach to some folk that has derailed this trend in one way or the other, I won't mention names but I'm sure the know themselves, you don't have to be rude or insulting in your contributions, even if you feel insulted, why can't you ignore or give a diplomatic quote so as not to jeopardize the effort of the brilliant brain behind this progressive topic... Now to the topic, before we enact true federalism, we all have to go back to reasoning table and draft out the benefits and harms it might bring to individuals and the nation as a whole, I'm not blaming those clamoring for federalism and I will also not blame those kicking against it, permit me to say this adage, that says anyone that doesn't have a mother mustn't have an injury on his or her back and another one says anyone that knows he or she is capable to live in the bush, is free to inflict him or herself with leprosy. If we are to go by the way of federalism, let the central power give all state some time frame to improve on her IGR, with all level of seriousness and after that any state that can't function on her own after the stipulated time should be merge with other state, mind you no state want a pest, but I'm sure this can be done in a way it won't affect any other state. Let us take UAE as an example, the federalism been practiced in the country has helped them developed, I could remember from what I heard, our then president Obasanjo told UAE representatives that came to Nigeria to seek for financial grants, that they shouldn't waste their time seeking for grant he said "nothing good comes from desert" look at them today, imagine a president without a foresight leading a country Nigeria, he can't even look into the future, all he believes was that desert will yield any good and today the country is one of the beautiful place u can visit in the world. Even with this they still see themselves as one even with the true federalism they practice, u will see some jobs advert that will give restrictions that for UAE nationals alone not Dubai indigene, but that doesn't stop other countries from getting jobs not restricted to their national, so tell me why we won't function well with true federalism as a country if UAE gives professional and menial jobs to non citizens??. The problem here is ourselves, we have to put aside ethnicity and religious rant and see ourselves as one no matter the diverse in the two point aforementioned which is the cause of the turmoil in our country today. We don't need to copy the laws other countries used that helped them this far, we also have individuals that are bless with knowledge and wisdom u can't compete with anywhere in the world, one man food is another man's poison, so dem rules fit no work here o, cos naija get as he be lol, don't mind me we are good people and bless nation. I will continue to advocate for true federalism cos to me that's the way out for now. Sorry If I sounded as a layman, I'm not a anyway a political student, just love politics. Abeg make lalasticlala pin this to front page till our contributions are heard, I'm sure our senator and the lower chamber can't debate this like we've been doing here.... PEACE ✌ 2 Likes |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by DEAFandDUMB(f): 10:04am On Jun 15, 2016 |
Jerrymax01:You've spoken well Sir.. Nice points.. |
Re: True Federalism, Its Advantages And Implications. by ColeworldMD(m): 10:52am On Jun 15, 2016 |
WILLIAMS10:the confederacy (the confederate states of America) comes to mind : Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi, North Carolina, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, and Virginia) it's made up of these 11 southern states that seceded from the US in 1860-61 hence precipitating civil war. |
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