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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 3:48am On Jun 15, 2016 |
agarawu23: Exactly 197sqm the following: 16mm = 1.5 tonnes 12mm = 3 tonnes 10mm = 1 ton Binding Wire = 50kg Note: Some (not much) 16mm and 12mm iron were left and used for columns (pillars) and lintels. Full cost about N2.7m started in Dec 2015 and casted in Jan 2016 before all the crazy price hikes. Done by a reputable Builder here on Nairaland. For full details and other materials send me your personal email. Note: This is not in Lekki o. (Na who born monkey ). Hajji M. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 3:51am On Jun 15, 2016 |
agarawu23: I just gave you an idea of what 200sqm building looks like. It's almost the footprint of 2 executive 3 bedroom bungalows so the slab will cost more than when you want to put just room pent on a bungalow. 200sqm is a lot. I doubt we have up to 10 of such duplexes (standalone) here on Nairaland. The max you'll see is 180sqm. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by lastpage: 3:51am On Jun 15, 2016 |
n3xt: Nice stuff! @Bolded paragraph: Brabus, talk to me about this light steel roof! My understanding is that Steel is denser and therefore heavier than wood. Now, if you have found a way to do the Roof Structure using Steel of some types.... and it is considerably lighter in weight, compared to using Wood, l will be happy if you can oblige me the information. Type of steel, what makes it comparatively lighter, cost implications compared to using wood and other advantages you have deduced. Thanks! Lastpage! |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 3:53am On Jun 15, 2016 |
diordaves: 1.Block setting mortar for sure. 2. Roman columns. I'm going to have daisy chained multi-wall outlets. I utterly detest seeing extension cables. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 3:54am On Jun 15, 2016 |
mufutau55: 6 - 7 bed I guess. Or maybe there are 2 large living rooms and the master suite has a private sitting. I do not plan to expose you more than this sir but if I post pics of a building of your size, people will charge you for tax evasion. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 3:55am On Jun 15, 2016 |
abdulwastecx: Thanks for this detailed drawing. Is the 1m a required minimum? Even for a bungalow? Thanks. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by agarawu23(m): 3:56am On Jun 15, 2016 |
mufutau55:thanks for the break down. I will mail u now and attach the building. Lol my bungalow theory has raised off since I became active here. I want to be like king and watch my street from the top. I know say na money but in as much hustle no stop baba God go do am |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 4:01am On Jun 15, 2016 |
lastpage: Honestly, I'm shy to discuss this. I'll rather like to defer to pros but if you insist because I know you'll want to know the secret, I'll fire on. Meanwhile, here are the positives with using steel for roofing. Abeg, don't just call welders o. There are professional Steel Construction companies that are specialist in this type of Constrcution. STEEL VS TIMBER Re-usable (just remove the bolts and remove) versus one-time construct. Cheap versus Expensive (long term) Straight versus warped, bended Non-rotten versus carpenter ant/termite Light weight versus heavy weight (I'll still proof it) Incombustible versus combustible 4 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 4:05am On Jun 15, 2016 |
agarawu23: Check your Nairaland mail for my email info, so you can send your email. Hajji M. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 4:05am On Jun 15, 2016 |
Steel goes a long span than timber and as such requires less trusses than wood. And the spacing from truss to truss is wider than wood Because steel goes a longer span, it does not require joints unlike woods which requires joining of woods to make up the length which is additional weight on itself. Steel can span 40ft. Hardly can we see wood of 18ft or 6m. In my ongoing project, I have a span on over 11m which cannot be acheived without joining lengths of timbers. Now this joints and braces add up to the overall weight of timbers. 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by agarawu23(m): 4:07am On Jun 15, 2016 |
n3xt:i have been wondering if the measurement was right mere seeing the pic u attached and oga mufu's building that was uploaded weeks ago. I will confirm the size properly later. It's just a little sitting room and 2bed penthouse plus balcony where u can view and relax |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by lastpage: 4:08am On Jun 15, 2016 |
mufutau55: @Hajji M I observed a lot of wastage of Mortar, over time, in certain builds l have done and personally supervised. When they finished laying the Blocks and we had to pack the remnants of mortar of the floor, l was shocked because in one case, we had to use it to just fill some areas of the compound. In my own opinion, apart from the craftsmanship of the Bricklayer themselves, there are two reasons l noticed 1.) The type of HOLLOW blocks we use in setting walls: Compared to flat blocks, hollow blocks tend to waste mortar a lot, some fall inside the holes, others get pressed out of position on the block below and the "rubbing process" scrapes off the rest, onto the floor 2.) Badly shaped hollow blocks: Having blocks of irregular sizes (abnormal shape, abnormal size, either to thin or sloping, e.t.c) all contribute to mortar wastage as you have to use the mortar to "make-up" for the irregularity, in other to get a straight wall. If you observe the way Red Bricks are set in foreign lands, you will see that they dont waste Mortar and it is always very neat and straight..... due to the shape and type of Bricks used Lastpage! 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 4:09am On Jun 15, 2016 |
n3xt: You are right sir: 7 Bedrooms ensuite. (But some people dey use this for 4 Bedroms in Lekki o) 2 Large Livingrooms (Up and Down) Large Ante-room (of course) (where is @Segcymoor when you need him) Visitors Toilet Kitchen Dinning 2 Verandahs (Up and Down) Brabus, only poor people pay taxes, especially in Nigeria. Hajji M. 3 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by alakara(m): 4:12am On Jun 15, 2016 |
Chekitaut:watermark ur pics with ur phone nos 2 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 4:14am On Jun 15, 2016 |
The distance between two intermediate support in lightweight steel roof construction is over 8m. You can never try that with timbers which means less trusses for the steel. The most interesting part is that lightweight steel are self supporting and the weight is not imposed on the structure but on the beams. This explains why you can see a steel roof built without resting on partitions. Timbers (ordinary) cannot achieve the same feat without supports except it is engineered. 2 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 4:15am On Jun 15, 2016 |
lastpage: You are definitely right in all cases and the explanations are good. But what else can we use if not mortar for the hollow blocks we are using? What are the alternatives... not the blocks but the mortar. Hajji M. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 4:17am On Jun 15, 2016 |
n3xt: Can you post some pictures when you started this steel roofing... I will surely be interested. Hajji M. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 4:20am On Jun 15, 2016 |
mufutau55: I'm very sorry I've not graced your thread. I was just out there busy preparing for war that can never start. With rotecch77 on the wheels, the Lord is your shepherd. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 4:22am On Jun 15, 2016 |
n3xt: I am continuously praying o. I need the "Lord Shepherd" bad o. Hajji M. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 4:22am On Jun 15, 2016 |
mufutau55: I assure you. This is going to be a very interesting one. I'll setup live cameras on the project site for full recordings ______ Unfortunately I wouldn't have a ground breaking project to show here like others but just a $30,000 Aluminium roofing job. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by agarawu23(m): 4:25am On Jun 15, 2016 |
mufutau55:replied. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 4:27am On Jun 15, 2016 |
mufutau55: We know nah. That's why I'm pointing to you sir. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by agarawu23(m): 4:32am On Jun 15, 2016 |
n3xt:Oga, are u sure the steel roofing won't cost more? How do we nail aluminium, stone tiles, asbestos and zinc on steel ? |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 4:34am On Jun 15, 2016 |
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by lastpage: 4:34am On Jun 15, 2016 |
n3xt: Am loving this! How can a steel frame roof ... be cheaper than a timber frame roof? I have a good idea of the riveting, welding and use of aluminium screws to tie down stuffs to it so, that is not important to me. I understand the "shy" part because you have been getting a lot of stick, even when what you are saying makes a lot of sense, even from peeps who dont know a tenth of what you know but then, ......... now you know why "reputation" is very important. Ti'iya nla ba gbeni san'le, kee-kee-ke na ama teni lori! (when a man is felled by a big tragedy, inconsequential will take advantage) Its up to you to chart a new course, ...which l believe you can do / are doing I try to keep an open mind about everybody (No ganging up!) and quarrel based only on principle/issue-based. I recall you poked a lot of fun at me, when l started the 2x2 fascia discussion ..... but if you believe in an idea, you should not allow the opinion of others to derail you., even when the idea is still in germination. "If you can imagine it, you can build it" We can discuss the details through PM's, if that will open up the details, while we are still fine-tuning and comparing notes. Should l send you a PM or would you send me one? Lastpage! BTW: Have you ever come across a LOCK (or something that fulfils that "Lock-Objective" which can be opened with one or two flicks, which cannot be opened by poking your hand at it from the outside (in cases where the glass partition is broken). I am thinking if l lay my hands on such a lock, l can fabricate a Window Burglary-Proof Iron which will fulfil the the "Security requirement" in preventing Burglary while at the same time fulfil the "Safety requirements" of the house occupant by providing them with an emergency escape route, in case of fire and/or siege. 2 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 4:37am On Jun 15, 2016 |
agarawu23: Ijebu man! Na money side you see It's almost the cost of timber roof + 50%. The bulk extra goes into installations, consumables and workmanship. Material difference is almost negligible. If you consider it in long term, it's truly worth the extra cost. 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by lastpage: 4:41am On Jun 15, 2016 |
alakara: Sir, Watermarks are easily removed with appropriate software! But l think it is appropriate to seek permission to use and give credit to the original owner of a picture, before using it to promote your own business. Lastpage! |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 4:47am On Jun 15, 2016 |
lastpage: We shall overcome. I'll be expecting your PM and I believe one day Nairaland Properties will be recognized in Nigeria as a force to reckon with on innovative ideas. We all need to work together to make Naija great again. A lot of thing (especially Rebuilding NextHome) is taking a toll on me cos I run a one-man show now hence the reason people don't always meet me at the office couple with the fact that banks and multinationals are retrenching so "who born my monkey" to dey show himself at this moment. But trust me baba, I'm up for this creative thoughts and I have a very good platform to put them into practice. Do you still remember the Parapet Steel Mould I shared some years ago? You can just produce parapet without the usual headaches and worries of carpentary work. No woods. No carpentary work. These are the kind of things I love. 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 4:48am On Jun 15, 2016 |
mufutau55: I've used cement glue a while back but not on a dwelling. It stayed together for the 5 years I was in the house. Next time you're at Lowes or Home Depot saunter through their construction area. Note: Not advocating the use in dwelling units. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by lastpage: 4:50am On Jun 15, 2016 |
mufutau55: There are no alternatives to the Mortar, which are economical, that l know of (use of GUM is one but it is not economical, especially with our present state of doing things). We then have to take a second look at the Hollow blocks themselves. * Can we make them more straight and to very specific sizes (length and thickness) * l also mentioned in one of my previous posts on this thread that with a tool like the "Bricky tool", with a little more tweaking, l can device a means of adapting it to Hollow blocks such that the Mortar is prevented from dropping into the holes. That will finally nail it and makes the job faster, easier and cheaper Lastpage! 1 Like
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by agarawu23(m): 4:51am On Jun 15, 2016 |
n3xt:+50% for this dry season? Where the money? 1 Like
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 4:51am On Jun 15, 2016 |
alakara: Notable, but this extra step should not be necessary if not for nefarious characters. |
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