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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 4:53am On Jun 15, 2016
EgunMogaji:

I've used cement glue a while back but not on a dwelling. It stayed together for the 5 years I was in the house.
Next time you're at Lowes or Home Depot saunter through their construction area.
Note: Not advocating the use in dwelling units.

Will surely ask and look around in Home Depot. But all I see is the mortar being used here too on hollow blocks...

Hajji M.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 4:53am On Jun 15, 2016
I just played the devils advocate on you Baba with the 2 x 2 stuff.

I function well in those thought provoking debates and discussions.

+2348023429122 (Whatsapp)

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 4:54am On Jun 15, 2016
agarawu23:
+50% shocked for this dry season? Where the money?

I know Dasuki. grin grin Hajji too know Dangote

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 4:59am On Jun 15, 2016
mufutau55:


Will surely ask and look around in Home Depot. But all I see is the mortar being used here too on hollow blocks...

Hajji M.

You'll only find homeowners using it for any large jobs.

The pros use it to repair bricks and stuff.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by agarawu23(m): 5:02am On Jun 15, 2016
n3xt:


I know Dasuki. grin grin Hajji too know Dangote
our oga's who have this at home can try it. Not we young shall grow grin

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by lastpage: 5:05am On Jun 15, 2016
n3xt:



We shall overcome.

I'll be expecting your PM and I believe one day Nairaland Properties will be recognized in Nigeria as a force to reckon with on innovative ideas.

We all need to work together to make Naija great again.

A lot of thing (especially Rebuilding NextHome) is taking a toll on me cos I run a one-man show now hence the reason people don't always meet me at the office couple with the fact that banks and multinationals are retrenching so "who born my monkey" to dey show himself at this moment.

But trust me baba, I'm up for this creative thoughts and I have a very good platform to put them into practice.

Do you still remember the Parapet Steel Mould I shared some years ago? You can just produce parapet without the usual headaches and worries of carpentary work. No woods. No carpentary work. These are the kind of things I love.


Life is made-up of "Ups and Downs"!

In the midst of all these "cries" about the economy and dollars, some are doing what they have never done before,wanted to do but dont have the money, .......NOW!
Its the blessings of God that counts!


Brighter days will soon show face but it is only those who are "expecting it... and are ready", that can take full advantage of it before every Jones try to catch-in as well, when the Horse has already bolted! undecided grin
Its like the Stock market, the Muguns who come later, will pay the price and lick their wounds! grin

I assume you have the intention of using "Concrete Morta"r in that Steel, Parapet Mould you made?
As a suggestion, why dont you "injection-mould" plastic or some other light weight materials into it and produce, light-weight, beautiful and cheap Parapet that everyone can buy..... and you make your money on the "Volume sales"?
I just hate the additional weight of a concrete parapet.... and it is not even necessary to be that heavy!

Do you remember the one Abdulwastecx showed me here on this thread?, l am thinking along similar lines.



Lastpage!

PM Sent.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 5:06am On Jun 15, 2016
agarawu23:
our oga's who have this at home can try it. Not we young shall grow grin

Alhaji Kowope, Which one best describe you?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 5:10am On Jun 15, 2016
lastpage:



Life is made-up of "Ups and Downs"!

In the midst of all these "cries" about the economy and dollars, some are doing what they have never done before,wanted to do but dont have the money, .......NOW!
Its the blessings of God that counts!


Brighter days will soon show face but it is only those who are "expecting it... and are ready", that can take full advantage of it before every Jones try to catch-in as well, when the Horse has already bolted! undecided grin
Its like the Stock market, the Muguns who come later, will pay the price and lick their wounds! grin

I assume you have the intention of using "Concrete Morta"r in that Steel, Parapet Mould you made?
As a suggestion, why dont you "injection-mould" plastic or some other light weight materials into it and produce, light-weight, beautiful and cheap Parapet that everyone can buy..... and you make your money on the "Volume sales"?
I just hate the additional weight of a concrete parapet.... and it is not even necessary to be that heavy!

Do you remember the one Abdulwastecx showed me here on this thread?, l am thinking along similar lines.



Lastpage!

PM Sent.

As I type, I've sent the template of the Aluminium parapet I did in 2014 to China to produce a polycarbonate version which can just be bolted to the 2*2 noggin on the roofing woodwork.

The aluminum is too expensive. We need a better and cheaper alternative so I want to explore the cost of using polycarbonate and fiber.


You see you 2*2 stuff on my roof done in 2014. We hanged the parapets on them.

The carcass of 2 unit of this house had an estimate of N20m from foundation to completion. That's what 20m can get you! And not a bungalow

PM Seen. I'll respond.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gabbytabby: 5:10am On Jun 15, 2016
A majority dont put their financial hat on and get sentimental unecessarily. I am guilty of this but as I see how houses get treated by tenants the functional and necessary becomes a focus and keeping build cost down to well below 20m for a build of 6 units of 2 beds is now achievable.

diordaves:
My top three wasteful build/design concept in rental properties in Nigeria:

3. Wall lamps

2. "Parapet"

1. Mortar use during block setting

Parapet and mortar use have been debated a lot here so can I ask why in Nigeria do we install all round wall lamps? It's not uncommon to see in Nigeria an average living room with 8 lamp points: three wall lamp points in the parlour and one lamp point at the middle of the ceiling, three lamp points in the dinning area and one lamp point in the middle. In the rooms; five lamp points each. Just one lamp point at the middle is enough. One can use reading lamp or bed lamp if so desired. All round wall lamps don't add any rental income whatsoever.

This practice is very wasteful as one can save easily about 70% in pipping and wiring cost if just one lamp/bulb point is adopted in the middle of the room as is the standard practice here in the UK. See pic below, no wall lamps but still well presented living area.

What's your top three wasteful practice anyone?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by lastpage: 5:12am On Jun 15, 2016
n3xt:
I just played the devils advocate on you Baba with the 2 x 2 stuff.

I function well in those thought provoking debates and discussions.

+2348023429122 (Whatsapp)

We are All good!
I learned from the contributions.... and thank all those who did not play "DEVIL" .....like you! grin grin

Let me 'time-out' small. undecided



Lastpage!

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by lastpage: 5:17am On Jun 15, 2016
E go better!



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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by lastpage: 5:20am On Jun 15, 2016
n3xt:


As I type, I've sent the template of the Aluminium parapet I did in 2014 to China to produce a polycarbonate version which can just be bolted to the 2*2 noggin on the roofing woodwork.

The aluminum is too expensive. We need a better and cheaper alternative so I want to explore the cost of using polycarbonate and fiber.


You see you 2*2 stuff on my roof done in 2014. We hanged the parapets on them.



PM Seen. I'll respond.

You be Agbayaa!

When the thing comes back from China, please let us know.

I love the way ideas are spinning out (instead of the rancour that feeds some).
Way to go.



Lastpage!

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 5:24am On Jun 15, 2016
gabbytabby:
A majority dont put their financial hat on and get sentimental unecessarily. I am guilty of this but as I see how houses get treated by tenants the functional and necessary becomes a focus and keeping build cost down to well below 20m for a build of 6 units of 2 beds is now achievable.


A good majority wanna impress. I'm sure owners of multi dwellings will have a lot to say in this crunch. Little to zero occupancy rate and tenants owing rent. However, it's just basic things will do and not the paparazzis.

The Reserve by NextHome has made me to realize that property price are dependent largely on location and not the finishes.

It's one of the cheapest build I've ever done. No window hood design, no special tiles, no ante, no expensive chandeliers, no special types of doors, no special roof, no special landscape - yet the landlord is getting almost $10,000 per unit multiply by 3.

Yet some over designed structures struggle to get $1,500 with the most difficult tenants.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by spyder880(m): 6:11am On Jun 15, 2016
EgunMogaji:


Jumping Jehosophat.

Oya Erico2K2 mark Agarawu down for an infraction against the person of Spyder880 grin

grin grin No na! I love his points about the high roof but that is how I love it cause it's my house and am going to be living there myself, not rent. I would have loved to add another 600mm if I can to see the "halo" effect it gives me. grin

For all my other projects, the client decides how high he wants his roof. I can give anyone a flat roof any day, if they ask for it. grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by spyder880(m): 6:24am On Jun 15, 2016
gabbytabby:
A majority dont put their financial hat on and get sentimental unecessarily. I am guilty of this but as I see how houses get treated by tenants the functional and necessary becomes a focus and keeping build cost down to well below 20m for a build of 6 units of 2 beds is now achievable.


Sure, good points. The challenge we have is following what the client wants in order to impress him , it's their money. I had a friendly argument with one of my clients about adding a parapet to a commercial block of flats and in the end, he insisted that I do the parapet. I made it clear the parapet will add nothing to the rental value but he still insisted on it.

I think it's still a decision of the owner. While some of us are so insistent on watching Costs to improve our ROI, some are in the property business for the beauty (as they will love to see it)

I will not say this camp or that is correct, because you never know why he decided to build the house in the first place. Another thing I have learned in this business is to never insist too much in a choice from the client. I will only build the house, but he owns it and stays there forever. I will really hate to be blamed some years down the line with the words "I would have done a parapet but it was Spyder that said no" grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 6:49am On Jun 15, 2016
spyder880:


Sure, good points. The challenge we have is following what the client wants in order to impress him , it's their money. I had a friendly argument with one of my clients about adding a parapet to a commercial block of flats and in the end, he insisted that I do the parapet. I made it clear the parapet will add nothing to the rental value but he still insisted on it.

I think it's still a decision of the owner. While some of us are so insistent on watching Costs to improve our ROI, some are in the property business for the beauty (as they will love to see it)

I will not say this camp or that is correct, because you never know why he decided to build the house in the first place. Another thing I have learned in this business is to never insist too much in a choice from the client. I will only build the house, but he owns it and stays there forever. I will really hate to be blamed some years down the line with the words "I would have done a parapet but it was Spyder that said no" grin

An astute point Sir.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 7:05am On Jun 15, 2016
mufutau55:


Oga mi.

#3 - Agreed, why installed pointed lights? I don't get it either... what about those wall lights installed in four corners of the room?
I argued with my brothers on this too... he said that is the norm. So I agreed but never installed more than two bulbs... not four.
And we no even get light sef, more lights put heavy load on generators.

#2 - It's just good fancy for a residential building at least the precast type, low cost, but rental probably not for me at least...

#1 - This I still don't understand... if mortar is not use for setting blocks, what else can one use... please give me some alternatives and their advantages and disadvantages...

Thanks.

Hajji M.


mufutau55 look at the pics below in terms of the quantity of mortar used and compare to what we use in Nigeria in setting blocks. The waste is a crying shame. look at the floor of the build, can you see any mortar waste on the floor as in Nigeria? look at the mortar used for binding.....

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by erico2k2(m): 7:20am On Jun 15, 2016
abdulwastecx:


At position B after the link has been removed. Something like this
Thanks Boss very very much appreciated

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 7:23am On Jun 15, 2016
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by erico2k2(m): 7:23am On Jun 15, 2016
diordaves:


mufutau55 look at the pics below in terms of the quantity of mortar used and compare to what we use in Nigeria in setting blocks. The waste is a crying shame. look at the floor of the build, can you see any mortar waste on the floor as in Nigeria? look at the mortar used for binding.....
The sand they use are smoother and machine mixed. Plus there is a tool used to remove the excess mortar at the edge to give it find finishing. If we did this in Nigeria it would be awesome
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by erico2k2(m): 7:27am On Jun 15, 2016
EgunMogaji:


Jumping Jehosophat.

Oya Erico2K2 mark Agarawu down for an infraction against the person of Spyder880 grin
He is already standing at the naughty corner cheesy
Good morning everyone

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by spyder880(m): 7:34am On Jun 15, 2016
n3xt:


I knew there are skilled artisans who can do this manually. But what I've found out is that this is pretty easier with "one-side solid and one-side hollow" blocks or all solid blocks. Especially when a tool like bricky and the one shown below is used to apply the mortar.

This is one idea I would have loved to Pitch at the Aso Villa Demo Day competition if not for age restriction.
This will save a lot of waste on constructions.


_________
If I have to do this, I'm prepared to hack my LaserJet printer to get the rollers.

Aluminium window rollers will do equally fine.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 7:38am On Jun 15, 2016
spyder880:


Aluminium window rollers will do equally fine.

I trust you, baba! Money and pressure no let person explore all these cool ideas again. I know the container needs to be lightweight and strong to hold the mortars.

Stainless steel plate and galvanized plates comes to mind. There also needs to be a rubber like squeegee at the pouring mouth to spread the mortar evenly.

I don find some of the materials to build the tool. Oya, make fabricator come finish am.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 7:44am On Jun 15, 2016
erico2k2:

He is already standing at the naughty corner cheesy
Good morning everyone

It's almost midnight here.

I'm in night class grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Chekitaut: 7:47am On Jun 15, 2016
spyder880:


Sure, good points. The challenge we have is following what the client wants in order to impress him , it's their money. I had a friendly argument with one of my clients about adding a parapet to a commercial block of flats and in the end, he insisted that I do the parapet. I made it clear the parapet will add nothing to the rental value but he still insisted on it.

I think it's still a decision of the owner. While some of us are so insistent on watching Costs to improve our ROI, some are in the property business for the beauty (as they will love to see it)

I will not say this camp or that is correct, because you never know why he decided to build the house in the first place. Another thing I have learned in this business is to never insist too much in a choice from the client. I will only build the house, but he owns it and stays there forever. I will really hate to be blamed some years down the line with the words "I would have done a parapet but it was Spyder that said no" grin
These day more of contemporary building, that don't call for waste check Propertymart, HeavenHomes etc, lovely designs

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Chekitaut: 7:49am On Jun 15, 2016
n3xt:


I trust you, baba! Money and pressure no let person explore all these cool ideas again. I know the container needs to be lightweight and strong to hold the mortars.

Stainless steel plate and galvanized plates comes to mind. There also needs to be a rubber like squeegee at the pouring mouth to spread the mortar evenly.

I don find some of the materials to build the tool. Oya, make fabricator come finish am.

But why...?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 8:05am On Jun 15, 2016
Chekitaut:
But why...?

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Chekitaut: 8:07am On Jun 15, 2016
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by tevanso(m): 8:14am On Jun 15, 2016
agarawu23:
This decking was done with bricks/blocks.

What I know

.... It saves cost of iron
..... Its more durable than normal decking. If the iron rust, the bricks are still holding your b
Decking firmly
.....it reduce weight of your building especially if you are building stories.
.... It reduce concrete.
bro in slab both concrete and iron have their different functions,the concrete cater for compressive stress while the iron for tensile stress,i bet u bricks and block might not be able to do that for long.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by babalose: 8:18am On Jun 15, 2016
The Contemporary style house grew out of Modern architecture, which arose with the Industrial Revolution of the early 20th century. Modern home style is marked by simple, clean lines; the idea that “form follows function”; and the use of what were then newly available building materials (iron, steel and sheet glass).
Modern and Contemporary in design are not one in the same, as many people might think. Modern design refers to a period of time. It doesn't change, it is a defined style, and will remain such for ever. Contemporary design is ever changing, ever evolving.
Contemporary homes are defined by their largely geometric form — cubes play a big part in the design philosophy. ... yet, conversely, an attempt to get the house to in some way welcome in the outside.
The simplicity and functionality of a Contemporary house makes it appealing. It defies time and age. It is not in vogue neither will it stop being in vogue.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 8:28am On Jun 15, 2016
Chekitaut:
grin grin grin

Smiling for the camera. Kii pa yen, Omo Iya mi l'egba
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Chekitaut: 8:39am On Jun 15, 2016
n3xt:


Smiling for the camera. Kii pa yen, Omo Iya mi l'egba
I no be Egba bros, u just amazing, Abami Eda/Ebora of NL

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