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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by spyder880(m): 8:47am On Jun 15, 2016 |
babalose: This is a private home somewhere in the east. I am hunting for the building plans or anyone who can design a simple and similar structure .
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by DUNKA(m): 8:48am On Jun 15, 2016 |
EgunMogaji:please kindly check your land rover defender threa. Need advise there 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mavverick: 9:24am On Jun 15, 2016 |
I dont know much about the carcass foundation, maybe if you explain to me in lay mans terms. Got to agree with the high pitch roof though, I think its a show off thing. Lighting points: Got to agree 100% with this, I questioned this with my electrician so many times, I just feel the light points are too much. When its not a stadium being lit at night. I later got to understand that some of thier decisions are just the norm, and nobody questions it. What I did is buy the number of lighting points that I feel is right, and anything else can be blocked off with plastic. If a tenant wants light there, they can easily add it. Excessive pop work: Do you mean window hood etc or ceiling pop. Personally, I do not like pop ceilings that are too busy, it becomes a distraction. I like simple and plain. A ceiling should not be drawing attention, instead I had spend the money on my walls and put a satin or silk paint. External tiles: It cost money yes, but I find that the lower part of a house is the bit that gets stained the most. One solutoion I read about is grafitex, I just like the finish however I heard its not cheap. I could be wrong here. abdulwastecx: |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mavverick: 9:28am On Jun 15, 2016 |
I understand there is a way that water heater can be shared, but I have to agree that a central water heater system makes too much sense. I also question the whole water heater idea in the first place, @ 40 degrees heat I will prefer to bath with cold water not hot. There is also no winter in nija, so why do we even need water heater. In my experience, its mainly sentimental and just in case. There are a lot of things we do in nija whereby its because others are doing it or merely sentimental. mufutau55: |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mavverick: 9:34am On Jun 15, 2016 |
Table lamps can be expensive in nija In a recent experience, half moon you can get some for N400 - N500 each. What I found was that those fancy table lamp or shaded dinning light, cheapest was like 4k. n3xt: |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mavverick: 9:47am On Jun 15, 2016 |
Will the roofing company supply sheets that will work with metal trusses ? Does it also mean that the running of cabling will be tied to the metal stuff using binding wire, you know with wood the pipe work can easily be nailed down. I mainly see this kind of roof with industrial building where the requirements are different to that of a residential build. n3xt: |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by write2obi(m): 9:48am On Jun 15, 2016 |
n3xt:Please Oga brabus for learning purposes can you go into details, the three points above and if possible suggest alternatives. Thank you. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mavverick: 10:01am On Jun 15, 2016 |
Another 40k received yesterday. Outstanding balance is 100K. Bosun/Brabus/N3xt, do you plan to settle way before or are we treating this as 6 weeks debt paid ? Common, it looks as though you want to settle this in 2 more 50k installments, am i right ? mavverick: 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 10:08am On Jun 15, 2016 |
EgunMogaji: No sir, the 1m is not the standard but because the foundation column already extended out of the DPC by one meter. The common standard for a house of 3m head room is not less than 650mm, anything from 650mm upward. 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 10:22am On Jun 15, 2016 |
n3xt: Nice job... Can we some of their soil report sheet? I am looking for a very good and affordable Geotechnical investigation film that can do soil test and perform good laboratory test.. . I like that idea of the pile cap in the picture below |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by erico2k2(m): 10:26am On Jun 15, 2016 |
EgunMogaji:We n 9ja same same now 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 10:46am On Jun 15, 2016 |
n3xt: I may disagree with some of these points The most comon roof truss Materials are angle bar, rectangular hollow section, universal beam etc. The minimum angle bar that can be used for roof truss is 50x50x5mm, this cost about N2,5000 per 5.5m that is around N450/m of angle bar compare to hard wood like apuntu or mahogany that cost about N450 for a 3 to 3.3m with a section of 100mm 50mm, that is N136 per meter Some roof wood don't rust when treated, wood like apuntu, mahogany never rust or affected by termites. Wood can be designed to have connectors like steel, if this is done the wood can be re used. Wooden truss is considerably lighter than steel because wood have lower density when we'll seasoned than steel. Wood truss can be more flexible for complex roof pattern. Wood truss is easier and faster to construct compare to roof truss, hence it cost more initially to construct steel trust. Some certain roofing sheet type can't easily by fixed on steel roof, roofing sheet like step tiles. The z purlin commonly use in steel roof is much more expensive than the 75x 50mm commonly use in wooden roof 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by lastpage: 1:43pm On Jun 15, 2016 |
abdulwastecx: Thanks Abdulwastexc, Until Brabus or anyone can prove the opposite of what you wrote above (Economics and Weight), l will still err on the side of Wood, over iron. But then, nothing is impossible, ... impossible is nothing, we just need to keep an open mind. There probably may be, COMPOSITE materials that we are not yet aware of, which have the strength of steel and the 'light weight' of Aluminium, whose production / manufacturing process has made or will make the 'economics' affordable now or in the nearest future. ![]() Lastpage! 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by NL1960: 2:19pm On Jun 15, 2016 |
mavverick: 40k at once?. E be like say Brabus don hit jackpot. 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EndiaSami: 2:24pm On Jun 15, 2016 |
n3xt: Yes boss, there is the central water heating system that is been installed outside the building and it's serves all sections of the building. It is available here in nigeria. In using the central heating system, provisions for it has to be made right from the building plan. So as to know where and where it will be channeled to. It does use electricity and it saves money. In 150, 200, 300 litres. People prefer the single ones( 10, 15,30 litres) because of individuality 1 Like
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 2:27pm On Jun 15, 2016 |
diordaves: True. And if our block laying can be this accurate and neat... may be we will not need all those plastering anymore. Thank you Sir. Hajji M. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 2:37pm On Jun 15, 2016 |
Chekitaut: OK.. Chekitaut... identify yourself... (Ile Baba omo ki ba omo leru o). Hajji M. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 2:52pm On Jun 15, 2016 |
EndiaSami: How much is a 100 litter or thereabouts gas (propane) powered central water heater? Also the PEX, is it 3/8 or 1/2 inch? Thanks. 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 3:12pm On Jun 15, 2016 |
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 3:17pm On Jun 15, 2016 |
mavverick: We had an agreement and I'm sticking to it so as not to run bankrupt while trying to impress. ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mavverick: 3:25pm On Jun 15, 2016 |
No problem. Was just asking. Will come back to you in 6 weeks time. Next payment due on the 25th of July. n3xt: |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gabbytabby: 3:25pm On Jun 15, 2016 |
At a level I do understand most are building and also intend to live in a part of it so they do want to make it aesthetically pleasing for them but the internals for rentals do not have to be to the same standard as yours. We end up building for ourselves. My first build all the 2 beds has 3 toilet totally unecassary. The feasibility was based on 450k for each unit. We are only able to acheive that in year 6. spyder880: 2 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 3:31pm On Jun 15, 2016 |
gabbytabby: Hello madam, I'm confused about something. What was reached in year 6? Positive income? |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Chekitaut: 3:51pm On Jun 15, 2016 |
mufutau55:Am from Lagos, Ajeromi Ifelodun LG break from Badagry LG...from Oluwa. Marriage and Biz took me to Abeokuta, everywhere is home when you make it conducive for yourself. My papa, grand papa, don sell property finish for selfish, greed and self center. 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 3:56pm On Jun 15, 2016 |
Chekitaut: Thank you sir. I will surely know that place one day... Hajji M. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 4:03pm On Jun 15, 2016 |
abdulwastecx: ______________ Initial cost outlay - YES, iron is more expensive but in the long run it is considered cheaper. I really don't need to expatiate this further. The only point to buttress this is "Why do commercial projects consider it most suitable option for large scale developments?" The simple answer is because steel requires no maintenance and it is 100% recyclable especially when you use bolts and not welded. There's no wood that doesn't have its shortfalls unless it is engineered. Even the Ironwood, Charcoal wood, Mahogany, Teak and requires so many special care and treatment to keep them in tiptop shape. These includes keeping them away from moisture, excessive exposure to sun. Now, this wood are very scarce in the market and are often mixed up with lookalikes for those who knew nothing about woods. The weight of woods varies according to their water (moisture) content and unless you're going to kiln or season your timber yourself (which is nearly impossible in our part of the world), the weight of various woods used on a building will never be the same. This cannot be said of steel! 70mm by 5mm is the same even if you have them in thousands. Steel to wood connection is possible but remember the wood joists rest on i-section beam which is also an additional weight itself. I agree the wood have a lower density than steel but can you use the same amount of wood when compared to steel to construct a marquee tent (the ones event centers are building this days). Definitely No! Or very impossible unless it is engineered and I'm sure you know it'll definitely cost a lot more than using steel. Woods cannot be used for flexible application more than steels. Check most of the domes, sports centres, stadias, monuments and even towers, you'll see them constructed in steel and not woods. I'm sure you definitely know the reasons. Longevity and Durability. Stadias are built to last forever!! I believe steel is faster to install than woods and more importantly is the possibility of off-site and work-to-suit fabrication which makes it less stressful installation than wood. All types of roofing sheet can be installed on lightweight steel roof. It depends on the installer and the degree of slope. I'm sure you won't propose step-tiles on a 12deg slope roof be it wood, concrete or steel. I agree the Z purlins is more expensive than woods but a steel roof will use lesser quantity of purlins when compared with using woods. For the build at hand, I'm getting just 100 purlins which equates to about 200 woods. Can you use 200 pcs of 75 x 100mm woods for a roof of 500sqm? Steel roofs when properly done can withstand strong winds and are more impact-resistant than woods. When you use steel, you just go to sleep! 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mavverick: 4:13pm On Jun 15, 2016 |
Madam Gabby I trust you are good. I would like to ask you some questions, if you were to build 2 bed flats again, lets say in Ajiwe area of Ajah. What would you include and what would you exclude ? I thought En-suite was more of a standard these days, I know someone who has a block of flats around Isheri Olofin, no tiles and only 1 central toilet/bathroom. I hear to rent is difficult now because tenants expect tiling and also 2 toilets at least. gabbytabby: |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 4:13pm On Jun 15, 2016 |
abdulwastecx: I've posted the summary of the report online sometimes ago but I'll do it again. Just the summary. The real reason why I don't want this public is some people may just end up duplicating this report to deceive unsuspecting clients. But as a colleague, I can share full report with you via email. But you go give me at least a day o. Too many files to dig out. 2 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 4:15pm On Jun 15, 2016 |
write2obi: I'll surely do at much later time tonight or tomorrow morning. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Chekitaut: 4:17pm On Jun 15, 2016 |
mufutau55:The most popular area in Nigeria, terrain worth be a world of her own, where you fine the Good, Bad, Ugly, Beautiful, Intellengent, creative etc people are found call USA(United State of AJEGUNLE)
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 4:17pm On Jun 15, 2016 |
Ajah people, how's today's rain for una side? I just can't explain it. The whole roads, streets and most estates are flooded!!! Abraham Adesanya, Ogombo, LBS, Sangotedo People - How your side? The traffic caused by today's flooding on the expressway is unimaginable!!! |
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