Agbaletu:


I was once a muslim and I know what Aregbe is trying to propagate. I stopped practicing Islamic religion in the late 80s. As for the insult...it is unlike Yoruba.

Maturity! Thumbs up

Well, you are arguing like a dimwi.t. Being an illiterate does not make you daf.t

If you are familiar with the law, you will choose a better line of argument

playboy19:


Dude, you are arguing like an illiterate. I'm sure you are thinking the court allowed Muslim students to wear hijab because you think there's a new law crafted out to allow them because they (the Muslims) went to court, hence you are asking the Christians to go do the same. If you were educated, you'd know that the same law that permit Muslims to wear hijab to school also allow Christians and traditionalists to wear whatever they deem fit to school. So if anyone, e.g aregbesola doesn't like this, he is the one to go to court seek an injunction to stop them. But as far as the law permit freedom of religion or religious expression, then nothing can stop the other students from wearing their own religious attires.

I believe we read something like this happening at the NYSC camp last year but was quickly resolved.

You are an Ag***** then . An Agb**** that would rather tell half-truths because he wants to win an argument ......Apologies, I find it hard to respect bileful old people


Now can we retell the story
Let's start with how students were forced (be it pagans or Muslims) to worship Jesus in those days or how they were even given Christian names OR how they must not be seen practicing their religion after school? Guess what, that started changing when Muslims began to know their rights. It is that awareness that brought us here

Yeah, we heard the stories too.

Agbaletu:


I was once a muslim and I know what Aregbe is trying to propagate. I stopped practicing Islamic religion in the late 80s. As for the insult...it is unlike Yoruba.

Naijacitizen:
Why does wearing hijab by Muslim woman affect Christians? Do you people want our sister to go around half naked like your very own sister who are causing nuisance in our society? Bunch of hypocrites and intolerant.

So all those who go half unclad are Christian girls/ladies? You sure are out of this world!

Thanks for the full story on this issue

ziccoit:


That wasn't the true position of the matter. CAN brought the problem by asking pupils to start dressing in Church robes to school. Unfortunately the directive was followed by the same Anglican high school where the miscreants in the name of pupils were spotted few days ago.

Community, religion leaders and government attempts at resolving the issue yielded no result. This was at the hight of Aregbesola's struggle for 2nd term. It then occurred to him the CAN was being political as usual. In order to avert political error, he banned Hijabs. This move pushed Muslim to enter into litigation with the government and the result is here for all.

The questions are why CAN is now using the same solution it deployed 3yrs ago that didn't work now? And, why CAN is using the same school? It's a fool that does same thing the same way and expects different result. CAN should just approach the court. Nobody is going to dance to its call for religion war unless if the war would be among itself.

In addition, Islamic or Christians schools are nothing but old sentiments people refuse to let go. All schools are public owned being managed and funded by government money.

doveda:
Please stop arguing. Your argument is lame at best. Not every damn thing would be included in the constitution

When someone mentions freedom of expression, you don't clapback with that lame line. Your comeback should be based on how banning of hijab does/does not limit freedom of expression and why it is necessary (or not) to ban it. Okay?

So if every "damn" thing is not included in the constitution then how are we to by guided by law? I'm sorry i can't bring myself so low in arguing with you. You're points are unnecessary, Now run along...

doveda:
1) Hijab is a private thing. i don't see how it affects you or a non-hijabite
2) Well. some claimed that it was his ban on hijab that started this.
3) They don't teach religion the way they do in other countries yet hijab is allowed. What exactly is your problem?

Your problem is that you are confused.
1) No one is against hijab. Get this right now.
2) if hijab is private, so is garment of everyone else with diverse religious affiliation.
3) if there is a school uniform, why is one religious additional attire preferred over others.
4) in that case, everyone should be allowed to wear their various garments according to their beliefs or outrightly separate religion from secular education.
5) i hope I have exactly treated your problems.

ftplanet:
I believed d most intolerant people in d world are Nigeria Christians. When no person compel the Christian students to wear ijhab in dat school why crying ignorantly when Muslim children decided to obey their Holy Quran {33:59}. And court had already ruled they are free to wear it while not wait for d appeal court to decide d matter instead of useless and unnecessary wailing.

And where did you see Christians fighting Muslims for obeying the Quran? Have u seen Christians fighting Muslim students for wearing hijab? No. They are only saying, since there's a law that permit 'us' all to have freedom or expression, then let us express our own freedom too. Would you say thats wrong by any standard? No. So if there's anyone like aregbesola threatening sanctions for expressing ur right, what do you call that? Isn't that deprivation of constitutional right? So that's the fuse about? What are you on about?

booblacain:


If unclothedness was a problem with God or Allah I'm sure he would have made Adam and Eve fully clothed in the beginning.

What is this one saying? Just because the first creature was send down the earth in a state of unclothedness. So, we their offspring should emulating them by continuing in unclothedness? What happen to the instruction by our God/Allah to cover ourselves in order to lower our gaze? I am sure if you are a Christian, you will have come across many verse in your Bible which teaches the decent dressing not what we are witness present in the world of christianity.

doveda:
Well, you are arguing like a dimwi.t. Being an illiterate does not make you daf.t

If you are familiar with the law, you will choose a better line of argument

Then present your own better line of argument and let's see how much of a dolt you are.

Darling, don't be a dimwit. Every little thing is not included in the constitution, that is impossible. When an issue arise, you try to classify it under a category. In this case, it is hijab. God so good Nigeria is a common law country, which means the judge has every right to create a precedent

darlingtonIIV:
So if every "damn" thing is not included in the constitution then how are we to by guided by law? I'm sorry i can't bring myself so low in arguing with you. You're points are unnecessary, Now run along...

playboy19:


Dude, you are arguing like an illiterate. I'm sure you are thinking the court allowed Muslim students to wear hijab because you think there's a new law crafted out to allow them because they (the Muslims) went to court, hence you are asking the Christians to go do the same. If you were educated, you'd know that the same law that permit Muslims to wear hijab to school also allow Christians and traditionalists to wear whatever they deem fit to school. So if anyone, e.g aregbesola doesn't like this, he is the one to go to court seek an injunction to stop them. But as far as the law permit freedom of religion or religious expression, then nothing can stop the other students from wearing their own religious attires.

I believe we read something like this happening at the NYSC camp last year but was quickly resolved.

You are absolutely spot on.

Naijacitizen:
Why does wearing hijab by Muslim woman affect Christians? Do you people want our sister to go around half naked like your very own sister who are causing nuisance in our society? Bunch of hypocrites and intolerant.

ur women women Bleep inside that hijab if ur pretending u don't know. its not about ur dressings, its about ur heart. Hypocrisy at its highest level. I was there, pls stop this nonsense. Hiding under hijab to commit atrocities.

Beremx:
I remember my secondary school days in the north early 90's. the mode for dressing for Christians in my school was a beret,skirt and blouse. for Muslims it was kaftan and scarf. it wasn't compulsory though as Christians could wear Muslims dress code or vice-versa. Till now, that's the dress code. Imagine that in a federal school.

Why then should students wear hijabs in Osun state for crying out loud?

This wouldn't have been an issue but for mutual suspicion and perception of subtle moves by fanatical leadership of the state to promote one religion over another. Growing up in Yorubaland was fun and interesting. Our parents spared us all these unnecessary bickering but bingo! Internet came and hate speeches everywhere, pettiness and unwarranted rivalry set in and people became paranoid.

darlingtonIIV:
Do muslims have missionaries? If Yes, please elaborate.

You are asking me if Muslims have missionaries lolzzzz

Try to update your knowledge to always know a little about diverse issues. don't wait for people to come and spoonfeed you because they are likely to lie or mislead you.



Yesssss, The Muslims have missionaries too and they established schools too like their Christian colleagues even though the numbers of schools established by the Islamic missionaries in the South West is not up to the ones established by the Christian missionaries.


They established Ansar-ud-deen schools , Nawar-ud-deen and others like that.

Something of this nature always baffles my mind. Babatope should not politize this issue. The muslim fought for their right legally and won in court. Why is it that anything muslim needs in this country, Christians will always want to make case on it? I attended a christian school( catholic) for both my primary and secondary, we pray in Christians way and I know much of christian way of life than islam when I was growing up without any problem. Meanwhile, this skul is a public skul. Xstian put on crosses in almost all the skul and wear beret cap. We pray and close our eyes without any question from our parents who sent us to public schools. Also, the Islamic clerics have never challenge while this must be done in public schools but when it come to christian side they must always complain. I think the best thing to do by govt is to handover back the schools to the owner if they can't control the activities of the schools again. Let the missionaries that are ready to fight for their children continue the affairs of the schools. Or if possible govt should change the name from christian name and muslim to a well acceptable to guarantee that, the schools is know more own by the missionaries.

Something of this nature always baffles my mind. Babatope should not politize this issue. The muslim fought for their right legally and won in court. Why is it that anything muslim needs in this country, Christians will always want to make case on it? I attended a christian school( catholic) for both my primary and secondary, we pray in Christians way and I know much of christian way of life than islam when I was growing up without any problem. Meanwhile, this skul is a public skul. Xstian put on crosses in almost all the skul and wear beret cap. We pray and close our eyes without any question from our parents who sent us to public schools. Also, the Islamic clerics have never challenge while this must be done in public schools but when it come to christian side they must always complain. I think the best thing to do by govt is to handover back the schools to the owner if they can't control the activities of the schools again. Let the missionaries that are ready to fight for their children continue the affairs of the schools. Or if possible govt should change the name from christian name and muslim to we'll acceptable to guarantee that, the schools is know more own by the missionaries.

ftplanet:
I believed d most intolerant people in d world are Nigeria Christians. When no person compel the Christian students to wear ijhab in dat school why crying ignorantly when Muslim children decided to obey their Holy Quran {33:59}. And court had already ruled they are free to wear it while not wait for d appeal court to decide d matter instead of useless and unnecessary wailing.

Really? Nigerian Christians intolerant? With all these islamic terrorism and muslims slaughtering people's necks here and there, bombing this and that... you still open that yeye mouth to say that?
You dont sound like you are intelligent anyway. You are already assuming Nigeria is an islamic country that should obey your book.

I keep saying, Aregbe rascal will destroy that state before he leaves. it is his long time ambition to islamized the state but unfortunately he met strong opposition that he could not withstand and will eventually consumed him at the end.

1) Your problem is that you fail to understand that using the hijab does not affect the uniform in a anyway
2) I have never seen my Anglican neighbor wearing his garment 24/7 or anytime he/she is going out
3) My family has roots in paganism. So I can tell you that you how I am yet to meet a pagan that does everything with his/her 'uniform'. Whatever that means
4) Sikhs are allowed to use their turbans while Muslim ladies are allowed to use hijabs. Uhmmmm.....I am yet to see how it affects the uniform in the UK.
5) Banning hijabs restricts hijabites from practicing their religion. If you knew the significance of hijab for those that believe in it, you will realise how dvmb you sound. Your uniform does not restrict an Ifa worshiper or a Christian.
6) I don';t se how its use is harmful to anyone. Well, it would be to a mischief maker
7) I hope I have treated your ailment

spiralwedge:


Your problem is that you are confused.
1) No one is against hijab. Get this right now.
2) if hijab is private, so is garment of everyone else with diverse religious affiliation.
3) if there is a school uniform, why is one preferred over others.
4) in that case, everyone should be allowed to wear their various garments according to their beliefs or outrightly separate religion from secular education.
5) i hope I have exactly treated your problems.

You are very much like a dol.t fill with hate . Your ailment cannot be treated.

Look at your argument again and ask yourself if you sounded sane at all?

playboy19:


Then present your own better line of argument and let's see how much of a dolt you are.

doveda:
Darling, don't be a dimwit. Every little thing is not included in the constitution, that is impossible. When an issue arise, you try to classify it under a category. In this case, it is hijab. God so good Nigeria is a common law country, which means the judge has every right to create a precedent

for the sake of clarification let me go back to the post which caused this argument... He said

So, what happen to the freedom of expression as enshrined in our constitution?

Meaning wearing of hijab in public schools in a secular country is allowed by the constitution according to him... And my reply?

fine. Let's go with the constitution.
Please kindly state where the
constitution states that "every female
muslim should put
on hijab in public school" or
something similiar to that and we can continue from there

Nigerian Christians are intolerent. Not all of them sha

spiralwedge:



Really? Nigerian Christians intolerant? With all these islamic terrorism and muslims slaughtering people's necks here and there, bombing this and that... you still open that yeye mouth to say that?
You dont sound like you are intelligent anyway. You are already assuming Nigeria is an islamic country that should obey your book.

Naijacitizen:


What is this one saying? Just because the first creature was send down the earth in a state of unclothedness. So, we their offspring should emulating them by continuing in unclothedness? What happen to the instruction by our God/Allah to cover ourselves in order to lower our gaze? I am sure if you are a Christian, you will have come across many verse in your Bible which teaches the decent dressing not what we are witness present in the world of christianity.

Adam and Eve did not care they were naked until their minds became corrupted.
It is the corruption in your minds that make unclothedness an issue. Clean up your minds, then you will have no problem with a naked body.

A wise man once said "go and learn the ways of the ants".
Animals do not care that they are naked, that is why they have less issues to deal with than us so called advanced beings.

My reply is whether the use of hijab should be allowed with the uniform falls under freedom of expression/religion? The constitution does not need to write every damn thing!!!

darlingtonIIV:
for the sake of clarification let me go back to the post which caused this argument... He said Meaning wearing of hijab in public schools in a secular country is allowed by the constitution according to him... And my reply?

omokab:
Something of this nature always baffles my mind. Babatope should not politize this issue. The muslim fought for their right legally and won in court. Why is it that anything muslim needs in this country, Christians will always want to make case on it? I attended a christian school( catholic) for both my primary and secondary, we pray in Christians way and I know much of christian way of life than islam when I was growing up without any problem. Meanwhile, this skul is a public skul. Xstian put on crosses in almost all the skul and wear beret cap. We pray and close our eyes without any question from our parents who sent us to public schools. Also, the Islamic clerics have never challenge while this must be done in public schools but when it come to christian side they must always complain. I think the best thing to do by govt is to handover back the schools to the owner if they can't control the activities of the schools again. Let the missionaries that are ready to fight for their children continue the affairs of the schools. Or if possible govt should change the name from christian name and muslim to we'll acceptable to guarantee that, the schools is know more own by the missionaries.

Like you said, you attended a Christian school, so you should expect everything to be conducted in a Christian way. If you were to have attended a Muslim school it would have been different. And you know why your parent didn't object, 1. Cos they understand that it's a Christian school and expect that'll happen 2. They didn't care much about religion in education, they just wanted the best education for u.

Now this is the concept the invalid governor aregbesola cannot understand. Baptist school will never accept hijab, same ansarudeen will not accept church garment.

Yeah, let's everyone walk unclad because it is the heart that matters. By the way, why don't we ban all pastors because some rape and commit murder

laparry12:
ur women women Bleep inside that hijab if ur pretending u don't know. its not about ur dressings, its about ur heart. Hypocrisy at its highest level. I was there, pls stop this nonsense. Hiding under hijab to commit atrocities.

Alphaoscar:






You are asking me if Muslims have missionaries lolzzzz

Try to update your knowledge to always know a little about diverse issues. don't wait for people to come and spoonfeed you because they are likely to lie or mislead you .



Yesssss, The Muslims have missionaries too and they established schools too like their Christian colleagues even though the numbers of schools established by the Islamic missionaries in the South West is not up to the ones established by the Christian missionaries.


They established Ansar-ud-deen schools , Nawar-ud-deen and others like that.

The bold sentence wasn't necessary. So according to you muslims and christians have missionaries. Accepted. Can you count how many christian student in muslim schools? So why did you children leave muslim schools and attend christian schools? As if that's not enough they're trying to cause havoc in a Baptist school established by christian missionaries. Let's Learn for each other.

we yoruba muslims don't like the way the ibos are laughing at us. Let us hide our division from them.

Dvm** Dvm**

Do a Baptist wear garments every single day?

They are both government-owned schools. Ansaruden can definitely not force all non-Muslims to wear the hijab or worship the Islamic way neither can Baptist ask Muslims to worship or not us ehte Hijab. If they want it, let them start funding their own schools!" Shikena!

playboy19:


Like you said, you attended a Christian school, so you should expect everything to be conducted in a Christian way. If you were to have attended a Muslim school it would have been different. And you know why your parent didn't object, 1. Cos they understand that it's a Christian school and expect that'll happen 2. They didn't care much about religion in education, they just wanted the best education for u.

Now this is the concept the invalid governor aregbesola cannot understand. Baptist school will never accept hijab, same ansarudeen will not accept church garment.

doveda:
My reply is whether the use of hijab should be allowed with the uniform falls under freedom of expression/religion? The constitution does not need to write every damn thing!!!

Every school has "Rules and Regulations". Only School uniforms are allowed in School, hijab is not a school uniform, you're in school to learn. After school you can wear the hijab and move on with your religious life. No one gives an F.

doveda:
You are very much like a dol.t fill with hate . Your ailment cannot be treated.

Look at your argument again and ask yourself if you sounded sane at all?

Look, invalids like you won't get responses from me. I gave you an opportunity to state your line of argument but what did you do? You were caught fuming all over the place. No single point laid out. I'd advice you shut your gob over this topic and forever hold your peace, or well you'd find dunces like you to have a go at.