Gbola5:


And why not, they have a teleporting machine.

varys is not going to kings landing, he is going to look for the mad kings grandson

Nihilist:


Sadly, I don't think that we would be seeing anymore overtly evil characters like Joffrey and Ramsay.

I think that those two characters could afford to be so utterly vile mainly because they were born into privileged positions and didn't really have to scheme their way into power. Well Ramsay had to kill his dad to hasten the process of ascension, but he was already the heir anyway so point stands.

Every other character in contrast, will have to navigate the political minefield and will require some degree of charm and compromise to acquire and consolidate any political gains.

So yes, scheming villains it is.

I'm already a fan of the High Sparrow. But littlefinger intrigues me. John snows stupidity decimated what forces he had, and winterfell is in effect being held by the knights of the Vale. I don't think sansa has 'Vex money' as naija girls call it, so she's massively in debt to baelish.

So those are my picks as well

Euron greyjoy is going to take the place of Ramsay.

JiggamanGh:


Euron greyjoy is going to take the place of Ramsay.

Euron Greyjoy has no clout. He has nothing to offer(as per the show).

luxanne:


Hehe

Pray tell

Was warned about the faceless god luxanne on this thread but didn't understand. Now I do.

obstead200:

U were wrong. Sansa was only being realistic. She learnt her lessons tha hard way. She knew Ramsay and knew Rickon was done for no matter what.
[/b]She tried to get Jon to agree to wait for more men[b] and not to let emotions rule in for Ramsay's benefit. That was wise of her.

As far as i know you wait for someone you are aware is coming.

I dont know how Jon was to wait for more men he didnt know existed

luxanne:


Am also indifferent about her but still, I love the fact that she's got a huge army.

She started from no one to thousands? I give her that.

Plus her aura, I like that about her too. Cersei used to have that as well - the not giving a fvck persona

Danny and cersei are different. Cersei has the issue of entiltlement while danny has to fight for what she wants. Danny is reasonable while cersei isn't . Cersei demands complete subservience while.Danny demands loyalty.

We all know how it would end though.

A song of ice and fire.

Danny ... fire of the dragons

Jon snow .. ice of the north.

Interestingly I wonder if Jon snows frozen seed can fertilize dannys hot eggs for a heir.

I look beyond the now.

Nihilist:


Sadly, I don't think that we would be seeing anymore overtly evil characters like Joffrey and Ramsay.

I think that those two characters could afford to be so utterly vile mainly because they were born into privileged positions and didn't really have to scheme their way into power. Well Ramsay had to kill his dad to hasten the process of ascension, but he was already the heir anyway so point stands.

Every other character in contrast, will have to navigate the political minefield and will require some degree of charm and compromise to acquire and consolidate any political gains.

So yes, scheming villains it is.

I'm already a fan of the High Sparrow. But littlefinger intrigues me. John snows stupidity decimated what forces he had, and winterfell is in effect being held by the knights of the Vale. I don't think sansa has 'Vex money' as naija girls call it, so she's massively in debt to baelish.

So those are my picks as well

Vex money. I like the sound of that.

I don't see Sansa 2.0 agreeing to marry Baelish though. Surely she's not that stewpid.

antispexish:


sir the reason is simple, royalty dey her blood!

No. I disagree.

The dothraki recognise power not royalty. I'd it were royalty they recognised Drago would never have given viscerys a golden crown.

They recognised her power. Which the show tried to show in ep8 but did poorly at the end when she appeared out of the blues in the back of Dragon.

However they tealsied thier folly and showed us how drogin appeared in the last episode.

Shit is how did she train drogon to accept her as Lord. I understand the smaller dragons following drogon though.

luxanne:


Am also indifferent about her but still, I love the fact that she's got a huge army.

She started from no one to thousands? I give her that.

Plus her aura, I like that about her too. Cersei used to have that as well - the not giving a fvck persona

Danny and cersei are different. Cersei has the issue of entiltlement while danny has to fight for what she wants. Danny is reasonable while cersei isn't . Cersei demands complete subservience while.Danny demands loyalty.

We all know how it would end though.

A song of ice and fire.

Danny ... fire of the dragons

Jon snow .. ice of the north.

Interestingly I wonder if Jon snows frozen seed can fertilize dannys hot eggs for a heir.

I look beyond the now.

Endy10:


They knew she chained up two of the dragons, while she flew away on drogon's back to safety. They didn't expect her to show up when they attacked meeren. You may say some even though her dead, probably with drogon. So you can see why they were no overly concerned with their thoughts of two chained up dragons and one dead one. With the number of their ships, they were expecting an easy victory.

This explanation makes no sense. First off, we don't know what they knew. The fact that we saw the Dragons locked up does not necessarily mean that this was public knowledge. Secondly, locking up the dragons does not negate their threat. Afterall, we still saw them fly out from God knows where to roast peoples arses.

So where does that leave us?

1. We know that everybody is aware that Danearys has Dragons. The masters of Astapor won't have forgotten how the dragon roasted one of their own at Danaery's command.

2. We know that Mereen was under seige. We could see the harpys killing people outside the city gates, and the astapor navy mounting a blockade on it's ports. This means that Danaerys could not have entered the city on foot. Indeed the sound that was made just before her sudden appearance, and the fact that she appeared with a distinct lack of entourage suggests that she flew into the city. If this was the case, the invaders would have seen that big fvcking winged lizard silhouetted against the sky.

3. The masters organised a parley with Danaerys. This clearly proves that they knew she was in town. The question is, why would you go through the logistical and administrative nightmare of raising an invading force spanning a thousand ships, and a large infantry battalion, without checking to see if the ONLY REAL military threat to your forces were inactive? That makes no goddam sense

Nihilist:


Trust me!

Her hostile takeover of dothraki horde was just baffling. Are we to believe that an entire society would just up sticks and follow her, simply because she roasted their leaders?

Are there really no ambitious dothraki left to try and exploit the power vacuum?

Are there no loyal dothraki left to try and and avenge the death of their leaders, brothers and fathers?

Plus what is she even offering the dothraki sef?
This is a society of nomadix killers, with no established cities, no agriculture, and virtually no economy.

Judging from the conversation with Yara, I'm guessing that raping slaving and pillaging are no longer viable options for the dothraki- so how does Danaerys sustain this vast number of people whose entire lifestyle is centred around those very 'principles'?

Fvck Danaerys mehn...and Fvck that Taylor Swift squad down in Dorne

The dothrakis are not like that.
You kill a Khal, you get his Khalasar. It's simple.

Nihilist:


This explanation makes no sense. First off, we don't know what they knew. The fact that we saw the Dragons locked up does not necessarily mean that this was public knowledge. Secondly, locking up the dragons does not negate their threat. Afterall, we still saw them fly out from God knows where to roast peoples arses.

So where does that leave us?

1. We know that everybody is aware that Danearys has Dragons. The masters of Astapor won't have forgotten how the dragon roasted one of their own at Danaery's command.

2. We know that Mereen was under seige. We could see the harpys killing people outside the city gates, and the astapor navy mounting a blockade on it's ports. This means that Danaerys could not have entered the city on foot. Indeed the sound that was made just before her sudden appearance, and the fact that she appeared with a distinct lack of entourage suggests that she flew into the city. If this was the case, the invaders would have seen that big fvcking winged lizard silhouetted against the sky.

3. The masters organised a parley with Danaerys. This clearly proves that they knew she was in town. The question is, why would you go through the logistical and administrative nightmare of raising an invading force spanning a thousand ships, and a large infantry battalion, without checking to see if the ONLY REAL military threat to your forces were inactive? That makes no goddam sense

You would be a very dangerous enemy.

I see your point but the show must go on. You had better like tyrion cos he would see this view in a heartbeat.

Now the mastersnof astopor were foolish in gier haste to conquer. So was Ned stark for think in a child won't grow up.

I like your point of view.

Team tyrion/ varys

JiggamanGh:


Euron greyjoy is going to take the place of Ramsay.

Euron greyjoy isn't a match for even joffery talk less of Ramsey. While I enjoyed his death I would miss him.

Euros only claim to famed he killed the Lord of the iron islands. No moreThough the books show him as a blood thirsty vagabond. I hope he meets up cos we need a villain of epic proportions.

Nihilist:


Euron Greyjoy has no clout. He has nothing to offer(as per the show).

He's an iron born and the King of the iron island. Their whole way of life is raiding, raping and stealing. Trust me he will be the villain. The iron island already hate the Starks and now Danny is going to be his enemy. He's the villain in line.

armadeo:



Danny and cersei are different. Cersei has the issue of entiltlement while danny has to fight for what she wants. Danny is reasonable while cersei isn't . Cersei demands complete subservience while.Danny demands loyalty.

We all know how it would end though.

A song of ice and fire.

Danny ... fire of the dragons

Jon snow .. ice of the north.

Interestingly I wonder if Jon snows frozen seed can fertilize dannys hot eggs for a heir.

I look beyond the now.

What if Jon is the song of ice and fire? We know he is the son of Rhaegar and Lyanna-- fire and ice all in one. I won't be surprised if Dany is just a red herring in the end

waywardpikin:


Vex money. I like the sound of that.

I don't see Sansa 2.0 agreeing to marry Baelish though. Surely she's not that stewpid.

If Baelish demands Sansa as the price of his intervention, there's very little she can do. It's not like she can approach the bargaining table in an advantageous position.

However, I don't think that Baelish will try and get her for himself...at least not straight away. I think that his play would be to get her to marry her cousin. She can't inherit winterfell and jon olodo is a bastard. So marrying her cousin could potentially be the best way to keep winterfell in the family. This marriage could potentially change the entire political dynamic of the north, and I suspect that he will then leverage his influence with the arryn boy to manouvre himself into the highest echelons of power within the 'new' north.

If we critically analyze every move in the. Series then there is really no point in watching any of it. Movies and TV series are there for our entertainment and let's remember this is pure fiction we should cut them a little slack, most important stuff is they get the point across and we all enjoy the show. Who is the mad kings grandson? That should be Jon snow naa according to the theories

UjSizzle:

What if Jon is the song of ice and fire? We know he is the son of Rhaegar and Lyanna-- fire and ice all in one. I won't be surprised if Dany is just a red herring in the end

I had considered this but threw it out due to the acclaim giving to Danny. A character like her can't be written into oblivion.

Jon snow definitely has a big role no play in the coming war. But I feel Danny also had a role to play. You see the strides she has been making.

While Jon ano initially from my book reading was a passing character it was when he was selected by a eron to be Lord commander I had a second look at him.

Danny was the younger siblimg.of a mad elder one and she learnt how to survive as did Jon.

He went to the night's watch a bastard and ressurected a leader. The free folk follow him. Some houses are loyal to the Starks. This season finale would be freaking epic......

I know something

I love this scene to pieces... That strategy make sense. if not for Baelish... Dem for choke and die for dat ground

JiggamanGh:


He's an iron born and the King of the iron island. Their whole way of life is raiding, raping and stealing. Trust me he will be the villain. The iron island already hate the Starks and now Danny is going to be his enemy. He's the villain in line.

Iron islands are politically irrelevant in the show. They've been a vassal state for decades, and while they have the ships, they don't really have the fighting men. Hence both Yara and Euron looking east for support. Now that Yara has beaten him to the punch, there's nothing else to do and nowhere else to go...unless they bring out 'that thing' from the books. Now that could be a game changer. Other than that, Euron is a goner, and will be lucky if he event gets to die onscreen.

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trigar12:
I love this scene to pieces... That strategy make sense. if not for Baelish... Dem for choke and die for dat ground

Epic military maneover. He got them where he wanted them.

Kill zone.

Nihilist:


Iron islands are politically irrelevant in the show. They've been a vassal state for decades, and while they have the ships, they don't really have the fighting men. Hence both Yara and Euron looking east for support. Now that Yara has beaten him to the punch, there's nothing else to do and nowhere else to go...unless they bring out 'that thing' from the books. Now that could be a game changer. Other than that, Euron is a goner, and will be lucky if he event gets to die onscreen.

According to most book readers they say he's a bad azz and if they stick to his book story. He will replace Ramsay.

Nihilist:


Iron islands are politically irrelevant in the show. They've been a vassal state for decades, and while they have the ships, they don't really have the fighting men. Hence both Yara and Euron looking east for support. Now that Yara has beaten him to the punch, there's nothing else to do and nowhere else to go...unless they bring out 'that thing' from the books. Now that could be a game changer. Other than that, Euron is a goner, and will be lucky if he event gets to die onscreen.

Boltons started off as irrelevant tilled they killed the Starks. This's a show where people/houses go from irrelevant to relevant.

armadeo:


No. I disagree.

The dothraki recognise power not royalty. I'd it were royalty they recognised Drago would never have given viscerys a golden crown.

They recognised her power. Which the show tried to show in ep8 but did poorly at the end when she appeared out of the blues in the back of Dragon.

However they tealsied thier folly and showed us how drogin appeared in the last episode.

Shit is how did she train drogon to accept her as Lord. I understand the smaller dragons following drogon though.

her blood oozes power. what I was trying trying to say is that it's already in her gene to rule. you can see that it's not what she did that Commands respect and fear, it's how she did it. She is a perfect example of born to rule.

Nihilist:


Iron islands are politically irrelevant in the show. They've been a vassal state for decades, and while they have the ships, they don't really have the fighting men. Hence both Yara and Euron looking east for support. Now that Yara has beaten him to the punch, there's nothing else to do and nowhere else to go...unless they bring out 'that thing' from the books. Now that could be a game changer. Other than that, Euron is a goner, and will be lucky if he event gets to die onscreen.

"that thing" is useless to him.

lebete3000:


And ds was the same girl Ned Stark called a little girl when Robert Baratheon and small council counselled Ned to cut her throat.

She's now possibly the most powerful person in Westeros.

At the bolded, na wa for u oooo
How can u be talking of westeros made up of just d seven kingdoms fa?
The cities across the narrow sea are not part of westeros. They are the free cities. (Bravos, yunkai, meereen, astapor, the summer isles, quarth, the ruins of valleria, and some other cities which I have forgotten dia names) and Daenerys controls all of them include the savage dothraki.
Daenerys stormborn is the most powerful woman in that universe.

By the way, just for show offs, look at the kingdoms (or great houses) that made up westeros:
Dragonstone (the taegarynes), lannisport (the lannisters), winterfell (the starks), the iron islands (the greyjoys), the vale (the Arryns), Dorne (the martells), highgarden (the Tyrells)

antispexish:


"that thing" is useless to him.

Very useless ooo
The only man that blew it died soon after

Epic

Nihilist:


Trust me!

Her hostile takeover of dothraki horde was just baffling. Are we to believe that an entire society would just up sticks and follow her, simply because she roasted their leaders?

Are there really no ambitious dothraki left to try and exploit the power vacuum?

Are there no loyal dothraki left to try and and avenge the death of their leaders, brothers and fathers?

Plus what is she even offering the dothraki sef?
This is a society of nomadix killers, with no established cities, no agriculture, and virtually no economy.

Judging from the conversation with Yara, I'm guessing that raping slaving and pillaging are no longer viable options for the dothraki- so how does Danaerys sustain this vast number of people whose entire lifestyle is centred around those very 'principles'?

Fvck Danaerys mehn...and Fvck that Taylor Swift squad down in Dorne

the dothraki follow strength only.
They don't Give a damn w/o the khal is as far as he is strong.

Nihilist:

Euron Greyjoy has no clout. He has nothing to offer(as per the show).

how did you come to that conclusion?

obstead200:

At the bolded, na wa for u oooo
How can u be talking of westeros made up of just d seven kingdoms fa?
The cities across the narrow sea are not part of westeros. They are the free cities. (Bravos, yunkai, meereen, astapor, the summer isles, quarth, the ruins of valleria, and some other cities which I have forgotten dia names) and Daenerys controls all of them include the savage dothraki.
Daenerys stormborn is the most powerful woman in that universe.

By the way, just for show offs, look at the kingdoms (or great houses) that made up westeros:
Dragonstone (the taegarynes), lannisport (the lannisters), winterfell (the starks), the iron islands (the greyjoys), the vale (the Arryns), Dorne (the martells), highgarden (the Tyrells)

Oh boy na you sabi oh....e be like sey you even sabi map of Westeros pass map of Nigeria sef.