MaziOmenuko:


Nah, everyone had a weapon for the war, he had...what? Nothing! Imagine what a log of Nepa Electric pole would have done to those formations that surrounded them? He would have won the war for them. The writers just worked towards a certain angle.

And Rickon? C'mon! When he got to midway, I was just saying to myself, stop running lad, stop running and face Ramsey's direction, watch the arrows and dodge them, Jon is coming behind you! But dude kept running like a mad dog.

And Ramsey shooting wun's eye when he had Snow's head at arm's length? Wun was already dead meat, they really portrayed Ramsey as whimp, that's not the Ramsey I knew.

luxanne:


I don't get it too myself like it wasn't enough that her blood, Blackfish disappointed.

Gbola5:


Make up, maybe. Made up ? Na. Martell, Tyrell, Tully, Greyjoy, were unjumped. Heck even the Targaryens and Baratheons. Only Stark, Lannister and Arryn forged their own Kingdoms, the North, the Westerlands, and the Vale respectively.

sagenrdy:
Goofy-- did any body notice thatwhen ramsey said haven't fed his dogs for days sansa has already left. N she made reference to it when she unleashed the dogs.

obstead200:

What I can't say is who are the Rhoynar, the Andals and the Firstmen. Abi are they all extinct?

Unfathomable:



Watch again...

So you didn't hear when Ser Davos said 'follow your commander' when Jon was all alone with Ramsey's riders approaching? Do you think Jon would have survived if those men had not come in between. This is why it is good to listen to dialogues not just watch action scenes..like it or not Jon would have tried to save Rickon and taken Winter fell back, that's Jon..have you forgotten he escaped from the Nights watch to avenge Ned Starks death? Sansa also advised him to wait for a bigger Army knowing Ramsey won't let Rickon live..did Jon listen? No!! He was all about saving Rickon

Gbola5:


Just the first set of people to come to Westeros, First Men> Andals> Rhoynar. I wouldn't say extinct, but as their blood still flows in the present era. Some houses are purely First Men, and some purely Andal, no house is purely Rhoynar.

obstead200:

I agree. it appears most of the north are firstmen and andals. Remember the dothraki always called Jorah mormont "Jorah the andal"

gj22:


Commander of the army not the nights watch

blackjack21:


SORRY! was just trying to sound like a GOT character didn't meant to annoy.

but with your assertion that Jon escaped castle black, to go and avenge Ned Stark's death.
Everybody here will agree with me that you don't know what you're watching.

ilynem:

Do you realize Sansa doesn't even know Jon all that well? Yes they grew up together but she was always a b.itch to him. Considered him a b.astard so didn't even get to know him very well. The girl who knows Jon very well is arya. So she can be forgiven for not fully trusting him. Now Jon doesn't even know who Littlefinger is. Imagine Sansa telling him 'the guy who arranged my wedding with Ramsey wants to help us with an army' do you think Jon would approve? Jon is his father's son and will always consider littlefinger an enemy. So she couldn't trust his judgement and had to go with hers. Simple.

Unfathomable:



...some of the men of the nights watch were him, and they were the first set with horses. phew!! this thread. The Wildlings and the Archers who I think are the Mormonts came later

Unfathomable:



...some of the men of the nights watch were him, and they were the first set with horses. phew!! this thread. The Wildlings and the Archers who I think are the Mormonts came later

Akanniade:

Reckless death wish more like it. Several times during the battle he was saved by the wildings and other soldiers.
The guy is not fully Jon Snow. A part of him was lost in the resurrection. I remember Beric saying he feels less after every resurrection .

UjSizzle:

I'm guessing the Hounds was Sansa's idea. Girl needed her vengeance and got it. After that ghost of a smile when the Tully army turned the battle around, it was nice seeing her unleash it

I keep picturing Sophie Turner as Jean Grey from Xmen all the time. Hehehe like the girl is on to a girl power theme.

Vixkyydera:
The stampede doesn't look real to me. Who can survive it?

djlaqua91:


Sanse is the biggest fool in TV history
Madam We Need More Men. Yet they asked your opinion she said she doesn't know jack about battles. Reminds me of the Feminist ish. Wife wants equal rights as husband but when its time to open wallet she will scream that its the Man of the houses duty.
If you watch the preview of the next episode online Jon is begging her that we need to trust each other. If I'm jon Snow, Sansa will rot in a cell for some months until she can reason clearly. Like Mother, Like daughter LOL.

kenturkish:
All of you lot saying Ramsay is a tactical genius got it all wrong. Ramsay is a sadistic creature. How the hell can you sacrifice your own men. Ramsay basically killed of his whole army, that's just sadistic and not tactical genius, a real tactician would never have left winterfell. His dad told him as much. When he asked him do you feel like a victor after mowing down tired and outnumbered cold barratheon army. The lords of the north umber and karstack are just plain stupid for following ramsay.

gj22:


I understand what you are trying to say but that's a very terrible example. Equal rights has nothing to do with roles and duty.

gj22:


They are not mutually exclusive. You can be a tactician and still be a sadist. Didn't you see how he made Jon do exactly what he wanted? He is a good tactician.

Remember how he won the war against Stannis before it even began? How he used reek to gain his father's trust?

Gbola5:


Exactly. What's this ~ Ramsay is a tactical or strategic mind all about ? Ramsay is saddistic is all i have to say. Roose was the man, Jon would still take him on, he had the same training as Robb.

Akanniade:
Can we safely assume, house Bolton is extinct?

djlaqua91:


Sanse is the biggest fool in TV history
Madam We Need More Men. Yet they asked your opinion she said she doesn't know jack about battles. Reminds me of the Feminist ish. Wife wants equal rights as husband but when its time to open wallet she will scream that its the Man of the houses duty.
If you watch the preview of the next episode online Jon is begging her that we need to trust each other. If I'm jon Snow, Sansa will rot in a cell for some months until she can reason clearly. Like Mother, Like daughter LOL.

Endy10:


Na you wan kill the dragons abi?
Which men? Even if there are any, they are long dead and buried. Why didn't they kill Aegon's dragons when he first attacked.
3 dragons, the full dothraki herd, the second sons, and the unsullied. Tell me who could stop that force. From every corner you are attacked and you still want to kill dragons? Every kingdom she attacks will quickly bend the knee when they see the dragons, just like Brandon did. There is presently nobody that can stop Dany.

P.S the dragons have still not attained full maturity

Endy10:


Na you wan kill the dragons abi?
Which men? Even if there are any, they are long dead and buried. Why didn't they kill Aegon's dragons when he first attacked.
3 dragons, the full dothraki herd, the second sons, and the unsullied. Tell me who could stop that force. From every corner you are attacked and you still want to kill dragons? Every kingdom she attacks will quickly bend the knee when they see the dragons, just like Brandon did. There is presently nobody that can stop Dany.

P.S the dragons have still not attained full maturity

UjSizzle:

It's the book. But I don't think it was for vengeance though. I don't even recall sef, but I remember reading that Jon left Castle Black and had to be convinced to come back.

Unfathomable:



...some of the men of the nights watch were him, and they were the first set with horses. phew!! this thread. The Wildlings and the Archers who I think are the Mormonts came later

djlaqua91:


I believe in Gender Equity not Gender Equality. It has everything to do with roles and duty. Sansa kept crying that they didn't ask her for her input, while at the same time denying them vital life-saving info cause of her ego. In life you take the initiative, must you wait for someone to ask you before you can contribute positively? She was involved in all battle meetings, rallying Northern houses yet she kept shut. If they didn't value her they wouldn't have involved her in the first place. Let's see LF plan for her now.

kenturkish:

Perhaps he is but it ended up costing him victory, like his father said only a foolish commander leaves the gates of his castle to go fight a battle, he is more of a sadist than a tactician, stannis barratheon was a tactician, Robb stark was a tactician. Ramsey is a devious sick fellow @ best. A tactician looks @ the bigger picture before engaging in any battle.