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Re: Why Faith Is Bad by Omooba77: 4:31pm On Jun 19, 2016
Seun:

I can't find a better word to describe what I'm alluding to, which is a belief that is not based on objective evidence and reason but a decision to believe. I think this is exactly what most people understand by the word "faith" in a religious or biblical context. Belief based on choice.

Belief is a choice,but Truth remain factual Deuteronomy 30:19
Re: Why Faith Is Bad by Alezy(m): 4:32pm On Jun 19, 2016
Seun:
All the people killed in religious conflicts in history were killed in the name of God. The genocide of Canaan in the Bible (which probably never happened), the Christian crusades, the various Islamic jihads, radical Islamist terror attacks, etc. I've not heard about any conflict in which people were fighting and killing other people in the name of Satan.
Not all that call on God are his children, your last statement about not hearing anyone killing in the name of satan says it all.

You can actually do a thing thinking you are serving God but actually serving satan just by that act. In other words, only a few, I mean very few actually call o God by their act.

Not by calling on God by saying it alone but acting matters most.
Re: Why Faith Is Bad by bolt000(m): 4:35pm On Jun 19, 2016
@HARDDON Do You Know How Many Hypertensive Patients Die During Their Sleep Daily? Are You Trying To Tell Me That They Didnt Sleep With Faith Hoping To See A New Dawn. A Lot Of People Hope For The Best, Which To Me Isnt Wrong But Having Faith In Getting The Best From Life Is Entirely Wrong, If Without Working Towards It And Living Life.
Re: Why Faith Is Bad by HARDDON: 4:43pm On Jun 19, 2016
bolt000:
You Mistake Not Having Faith At All And "Why Faith Is Bad".

Life is faith. Is life bad?

For u to live, a degree of faith is involved. Whether u bliv it or not. Whether u agree or not.

U wake up , dress up n set out each day hoping for the very best, that is faith . that couldn't be bad.
We need not wear faith religious robe b4 we call it faith.

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Re: Why Faith Is Bad by bolt000(m): 4:51pm On Jun 19, 2016
HARDDON:


Life is faith. Is life bad?

For u to live, a degree of faith is involved. Whether u bliv it or not. Whether u agree or not.

U wake up , dress up n set out each day hoping for the very best, that is faith . that couldn't be bad.
We need not wear faith religious robe b4 we call it faith.

No Offence, But I Totally Disagree With What You Just Mentioned.
Re: Why Faith Is Bad by Seun(m): 6:24pm On Jun 19, 2016
Omooba77:
1 a : devotion to duty or a person : LOYALTY b : the quality of keeping one's promises. 2 a : belief and trust in and loyalty to God b : belief in the doctrines of a religion c : firm belief even in the absence of proof d : complete confidence.
Definition of faith - Merriam-Webster's Student ...
www.wordcentral.com › cgi-bin › student
Meaning 2C is what we are going for. Do you have a better word to describe it?
Re: Why Faith Is Bad by Aremu01(m): 6:24pm On Jun 19, 2016
No no no... I DISAGREE with this
Re: Why Faith Is Bad by Omooba77: 6:44pm On Jun 19, 2016
Seun:
Meaning 2C is what we are going for. Do you have a better word to describe it?
I choose to go with 1A and 2A nko?

I know you formed this in Ife,but it doesnt change reality of God
Re: Why Faith Is Bad by Nobody: 6:54pm On Jun 19, 2016
Seun are you trying hard to convince religious nairalanders to accept atheism?


is that the essence of this thread undecided?
Re: Why Faith Is Bad by Seun(m): 7:10pm On Jun 19, 2016
Omooba77:
I choose to go with 1A and 2A nko?
That's not reasonable since you know the meaning that is intended by the person who wrote the words.

JESUSBOIY:
Seun are you trying hard to convince religious nairalanders to accept atheism?
No, I want people to accept evidence and reason as the basis for all beliefs. People have been taught that faith is a good thing. I disagree.

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Re: Why Faith Is Bad by Omooba77: 7:38pm On Jun 19, 2016
Seun:

That's not reasonable since you know the meaning that is intended by the person who wrote the words.

No, I want people to accept evidence and reason as the basis for all beliefs. People have been taught that faith is a good thing. I disagree.
But why did you choose 2C alone. For more information you can read about C.S.Lewis. I did more than you are doing now sir,God will meet you as he met me and many others.
Re: Why Faith Is Bad by weblord1900: 7:40pm On Jun 19, 2016
Seun:



are you really saying that God do not exist or you just want say the reason why you disagree with somebody having faith in God ..
Re: Why Faith Is Bad by weblord1900: 7:41pm On Jun 19, 2016
Seun:



I think God miracles will convince you... just one day
Re: Why Faith Is Bad by Scholar8200(m): 8:26pm On Jun 19, 2016
Seun:
Religious testimonies are not trustworthy. Perfectly ordinary stories become supernatural and fantastic as they are retold and repeatedly spiced up by eager believers.
But the one quoted and many other similar occurrences can be verified from 'contemporary' history!
Re: Why Faith Is Bad by Nobody: 8:30pm On Jun 19, 2016
Its really sad that he doesnt believe in God's existence even with all the evidences around...sadcrycrycrycrycrycrycrycrycrycrycrycrycrycrycry
Re: Why Faith Is Bad by Seun(m): 9:07pm On Jun 19, 2016
its really sad that he doesnt believe in God's existence even with all the evidences around...sadcrycrycrycrycrycrycrycrycrycrycrycrycrycrycry
That's the problem. There are no "evidences". None whatsoever. It's hard for a pentecostal Christian to believe this, but it's the shocking truth.

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Re: Why Faith Is Bad by Antina(f): 9:11pm On Jun 19, 2016
Seun:

That's the problem. There are no evidences. None whatsoever. It's hard for a pentecostal Christian to believe this, but it's the shocking truth.

OMG shocked
Re: Why Faith Is Bad by bot101(m): 10:03pm On Jun 19, 2016
Seun:

That's the problem. There are no evidences. None whatsoever. It's hard for a pentecostal Christian to believe this, but it's the shocking truth.

Your very name is evidence enough.
Re: Why Faith Is Bad by braithwaite(m): 10:13pm On Jun 19, 2016
bot101:


Your very name is evidence enough.

The number of people who believe in something has very little to do with whether or not it's true. It is a belief without evidence. This is the time-honored fallacy of argumentum ad populum.Just because a lot of people believe in something, that doesn't make it true.
Re: Why Faith Is Bad by weblord1900: 10:13pm On Jun 19, 2016
Seun:

That's the problem. There are no evidences. None whatsoever. It's hard for a pentecostal Christian to believe this, but it's the shocking truth.


your achievements is an evidence ..God doesnt really need to be coming to tell you in many ways how he has been helping you. A father that decides to help his child in good heart without letting the child know is a true father and if he does, he is bragging especially when the task is too simple.
Re: Why Faith Is Bad by braithwaite(m): 10:27pm On Jun 19, 2016
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I really do doubt as much of humanity who believe in something they cannot see. It's more likely that a lot of them simply say they do believe because thhinking is a skill. The more people learn how to think, the less need there will be for religion.

It's likely never going away entirely, though.
Those religious folks who believe in that super -daddy are not necessarily ignorant, they just accept something as true based on faith alone. And, in recent years,they been getting pretty defensive and aggressive why? undecided.because their beliefs are no longer the main beliefs for society, and they are afraid because they think they will be treated as poorly as they treated non-believers or people of different faiths in the past. Don't worry, we don't think you're ignorant, We just think your're wrong, and we won't tolerate laws based on nothing than your particular religions interpretation of morality. You can believe whatever you like.there will be a time when you folks will reason how we are reasoning now..

cool

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Re: Why Faith Is Bad by Nobody: 11:10pm On Jun 19, 2016
Seun:

That's the problem. There are no evidences. None whatsoever. It's hard for a pentecostal Christian to believe this, but it's the shocking truth.

Seun am sorry to say this... But most times, you sound too shallow, vague and confused.

Personally, I dont believe in "God" because the God I was taught about from Childhood is something manufactured by man.

But "God" as perceived through common sense is something that must exist! I said perceived mind you. Ask me how?

Nairaland Didnt just come into existence.
Seun invented Nairaland.
Nairaland has been evolving over the years because Seun is Active and maintains it.
Without Seun, there is no Nairaland
Because out of Nothing, Comes Nothing.

What the above story teaches is that Seun planted the first seed of Nairaland. If Seun didnt plant it, no amount of billions of years will make Nairaland come into existence suddenly by itself, maintain itself and evolves by itself. Even Seun will confess how hectic it is for him to maintain it!

The problem with the "God" theory is that human beings always claim to know it, him or her. Which is an obvious lie! This makes them to give "God" human attributes like perfect, good, nice and all that. To me, "God" is neither perfect nor imperfect!

In summary, "GOD" does not exist because it is something defined with human attributes. Mind the word "God"

BUT THE FACT IS THAT SOMETHING EXISTS. AND THAT THING IS THE CAUSE OF ORIGINS.

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Re: Why Faith Is Bad by karleone(m): 12:33am On Jun 20, 2016
Seun:

That's the problem. There are no evidences. None whatsoever. It's hard for a pentecostal Christian to believe this, but it's the shocking truth.

There are a lot of evidences that God exists. It's just that science and technology has blinded man to believe that everything revolves around them. Thereby causing the doubt in God's existence.
Re: Why Faith Is Bad by Weah96: 12:56am On Jun 20, 2016
iamexcelblog:



In summary, "GOD" does not exist because it is something defined with human attributes. Mind the word "God"

BUT THE FACT IS THAT SOMETHING EXISTS. AND THAT THING IS THE CAUSE OF ORIGINS.

The focus of this thread is theism, the idea that the yet unknown source of the universe actually revealed itself to mostly Jews or Arabs and told them to write a book.

Most people use the word God to imply an invisible conscious being who has spoken to human beings. So when atheists say they don't believe in God, they too are implying the concept of a talking being.

The universe did come from something or somewhere, however, calling that thing God is arbitrary.
Re: Why Faith Is Bad by Nobody: 9:59am On Jun 20, 2016
Weah96:


The focus of this thread is theism, the idea that the yet unknown source of the universe actually revealed itself to mostly Jews or Arabs and told them to write a book.

Most people use the word God to imply an invisible conscious being who has spoken to human beings. So when atheists say they don't believe in God, they too are implying the concept of a talking being.

The universe did come from something or somewhere, however, calling that thing God is arbitrary.

I concur totally!
Re: Why Faith Is Bad by Viktor1983(m): 1:39pm On Jun 20, 2016
Seun:
Faith in anything that is not true is bad. More people have been killed in the name of God than in the name of the devil.

Truth!
Re: Why Faith Is Bad by GeneralShepherd(m): 9:48am On Jun 23, 2016
Omooba77:
Even the athiest too have FAITH there is no God. o

This argument is not only false but portrays your education in a very poor light.

Atheists do not have faith that there is no God, atheists reject the notion of a God because there is no evidence -objective evidence - that proves the existence of an all powerful, all knowing and Omnipresent being.

You do not need faith to reject a ridiculous idea, if I told I am the president of Nigeria and then fail to actually prove that I am PMB, would it be right to say that you are rejecting my claim by faith, when you expectedly dismiss my claim as utter baloney?

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Re: Why Faith Is Bad by GeneralShepherd(m): 9:56am On Jun 23, 2016
iamexcelblog:


Seun am sorry to say this... But most times, you sound too shallow, vague and confused.

Personally, I dont believe in "God" because the God I was taught about from Childhood is something manufactured by man.

But "God" as perceived through common sense is something that must exist! I said perceived mind you. Ask me how?

Nairaland Didnt just come into existence.
Seun invented Nairaland.
Nairaland has been evolving over the years because Seun is Active and maintains it.
Without Seun, there is no Nairaland
Because out of Nothing, Comes Nothing.

What the above story teaches is that Seun planted the first seed of Nairaland. If Seun didnt plant it, no amount of billions of years will make Nairaland come into existence suddenly by itself, maintain itself and evolves by itself. Even Seun will confess how hectic it is for him to maintain it!

The problem with the "God" theory is that human beings always claim to know it, him or her. Which is an obvious lie! This makes them to give "God" human attributes like perfect, good, nice and all that. To me, "God" is neither perfect nor imperfect!

In summary, "GOD" does not exist because it is something defined with human attributes. Mind the word "God"

BUT THE FACT IS THAT SOMETHING EXISTS. AND THAT THING IS THE CAUSE OF ORIGINS.






Can you describe this your version of God? Please while you are it, since something cannot come from nothing, from whence came this your version of God? Or is your God nothing as you claim that only nothing can come from nothing.
Re: Why Faith Is Bad by snezBaba: 11:05am On Jun 23, 2016
Well since we all want to proof things without scriptures here's my theory:
N.B:To continue Pls you have to read with an emotion free mind so as not to cloud your judgement.Lego
1. God's existence? My theory is that God really does exists,why ? Let's say I develop a robot for example, such robot will only know what I programmed into it. If it is programmed in such a way that it can only serve tea it will never do more than that.A robot can never do more than it has been designed to do. It can never be intelligent than its creator,if a robot can floor a person with the highest IQ,its all thanks to its creator my people! Compare this to humanity we just gained consciousness one day and be like how did we get here verily we must have originated from this and that.we take solace in what's around us.Apes and the likes.People all that God crcreated isn't perfect.Trust me it is,dont you see the needy Nd feel like What if that was me, a sight of glorification,atheist be like their genes caused that,it can never be me.What if it was his would you know?
Why did HE put us here if everything hedknows what will happen. Let's take this series as an example,The flash. The speed force knows about the beginning and the end. God knows about this as well in the real world.Are we for his pleasure?Nah,he sent the scriptures as guidance,we all know time can change but it's quite difficult.seems am writing nonsense.To all the atheist here I challenge you to bring your deepest and thickest questions about GOD and we look at it together. You too seun,Hope it's worth my time. CHALLENGE
Re: Why Faith Is Bad by GeneralShepherd(m): 11:11am On Jun 23, 2016
snezBaba:
Well since we all want to proof things without scriptures here's my theory:
N.B:To continue Pls you have to read with an emotion free mind so as not to cloud your judgement.Lego
1. God's existence? My theory is that God really does exists,why ? Let's say I develop a robot for example, such robot will only know what I programmed into it. If it is programmed in such a way that it can only serve tea it will never do more than that.A robot can never do more than it has been designed to do. It can never be intelligent than its creator,if a robot can floor a person with the highest IQ,its all thanks to its creator my people! Compare this to humanity we just gained consciousness one day and be like how did we get here verily we must have originated from this and that.we take solace in what's around us.Apes and the likes.People all that God crcreated isn't perfect.Trust me it is,dont you see the needy Nd feel like What if that was me, a sight of glorification,atheist be like their genes caused that,it can never be me.What if it was his would you know?
Why did HE put us here if everything hedknows what will happen. Let's take this series as an example,The flash. The speed force knows about the beginning and the end. God knows about this as well in the real world.Are we for his pleasure?Nah,he sent the scriptures as guidance,we all know time can change but it's quite difficult.seems am writing nonsense.To all the atheist here I challenge you to bring your deepest and thickest questions about GOD and we look at it together. You too seun,Hope it's worth my time. CHALLENGE

The important thing is that whenever the robot demands evidence of his creator, his creator will present itself. The robot too can look at its own code and even programme next generation of robots if it so desires.

In the case of humans, where is the irrefutable evidence of the existence of a God? If this God exists, which God is it?

As you know, a number of religions with different norms and precepts claim to worship the true God.
Re: Why Faith Is Bad by snezBaba: 4:01pm On Jun 23, 2016
GeneralShepherd:


The important thing is that whenever the robot demands evidence of his creator, his creator will present itself. The robot too can look at its own code and even programme next generation of robots if it so desires.

In the case of humans, where is the irrefutable evidence of the existence of a God? If this God exists, which God is it?

As you know, a number of religions with different norms and precepts claim to worship the true God.
Did you just say the robot will look into its own code?HOW and who designed it with such Artificial intellegence.Are you saying robots can re-write themselves like terminators:-).

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