SailorXY:

I don't think the average Nigerian is that oblivious of his immediate environment. We all know the right things to do but will easily default because of some perceived persecution or support for 'our' own the moment we notice an 'external' push. This is because 99.999% Nigerians are patriotic first to their various clans with little or nothing reserved for the entity called Nigeria. Everyone targets how to get into government positions to steal for their immediate & extended families.
Now when an issue comes up you hear stuff like "when your brother dey there nko?" "leave am make he chop, beg Baba God make e reach your turn" even among mid-teens!

While you claim to trust the FG, the very next family in your village will claim point blank that the FG should not bother earning his trust - again based on the perceived tribe of the ruling group.

This still brings us back to true federalism. When FG gather proceeds from everyone & then disburse same back in ratio of how they deem fit, there is easy diverting of masses attention from the state & local governments to how much another 'undeserving' zone has collected instead of how they can use the resources for developments.
Now due to the inherent distrust, agitations are channeled to perceived bias which are usually tribal/religiously whipped. But when the control is within, no foolish elected person will just squander revenues because he knows eyes are on his works, "the voice of the patriotic people is the voice of God".

The inability to pay salaries today is because of dependence on oil & hand outs from the center. The laziness of governors who again ascended the seat of powers on the paddy paddy grounds, not competence. Generally Nigerians are poor educationally, but more so with empty stomachs. A looter of public funds can just slaughter cattles & bingo, people are chanting his name without engaging the candidate on his blueprints for development or governance as it were.

I didn't say Tinubu is a problem or not, I just used his personality as example relations to his influence. But my point is that it will be easier for the masses to take a stand against an individual for the general good as opposed to the individual wriggling out when he incites the gullible painting a witch-hunt from another region kind of scenario.

Totally agree with your summation.

raumdeuter:


Welfare breeds laziness why should the ones who worked hard and made money be punished to pay for others? A survey in America says if you make less than 40K a year you are better off not working and just getting benefits because got would pay for your housing, get food stamps and childcare plus healthcare.

A and B grew up with same opportunities why should one who becomes succesful be one to pay for the other who took things easy? while you were studying and taking tough decisions I was partying and enjoying life. So why should it be that when its your turn to enjoy your hardwork, You should now be compelled to give me?

One example that stuck

3 brothers grew up in the same house with same opportunities. 3 got married and decided to live in the same area

A decided to take things easy works 20hours a week stay at home more to enjoy his life he makes 20K a yr
B decides to do more, takes a higher degree works 40K and work 40hrs a week he makes 50K a yr
C decides to study more, take certifications every 6 months go for development seminars work 60hrs a week and make 100K a yr

Their estate needs to improved they were given a quote of 12K for repairs

A suggests that he should pay 0, B and C should pay 6k each to fix their estate
B suggests that they should pay based on their income A pays 1k, B pays 3k and C pays 8k
C suggests all of them should split in equally and pay 3k each

I go with Mr C suggestion, No one should pay for anyone in life and I think any man who supports Bernie Sanders should be ashamed of himself for wanting other able bodied men to take care of him and his finances. When its time to fucckk his wife, he should let better hung men do it for him

lwkmd.

As for me, I'm a conservative-leaning independent. I'm only in favor of 20% of Bernie Sanders' proposals like increased subsidized higher education, and re-negotiating the "free" trade deals that have led to the loss of millions of manufacturing jobs in the US within the last 20 years.

There should be fewer regulations on businesses, and a simplified tax code which eliminates most of the current credits and deductions.

Also, a minimum wage based on COLA should be in place. In that regard, I'm all for Secretary Clinton's $12/hour proposal at the federal level. Individual states could set a higher or lower minimum wage based on the cost of living in their states.

I believe the government should get out of the business of marriage. There shouldn't be a tax incentive to get married, and people should be free to marry whomever they love. The only deviation I would suggest is that marriages should be registered in the courts for purposes of family law.

Now, in a choice between Trump and Hillary, I'm leaning towards Hillary because she is in the middle, politically, of both Sanders and Trump (or Gary Johnson). But if she gets indicted by the DOJ, I may just sit out the November election.

Group B of African WC qualifying zone

Zambia
Cameroon
Nigeria
Algeria.

Guys, do you think the Super Eagles will qualify from this group?

This is arguably Nigeria's toughest ever World cup qualifying group!

raumdeuter:


SO which of the safety net is more important than others? Is it providing food in form of food stamps, Affordable housing, Giving money to unemployed. For old and disabled I can support but not for able bodied poor people

if I ask you how many kids do you want you might say 4 or less because thats all you can take care of, Thats personal responsibility, some people of your age already have 15 because govt would take care of them and how would govt take care of them? By taking from you who decided to have just 2

Left to me, if you are poor, your reproductive ability must be curbed also.
If you are unemployed and want free govt stuff, then lets create a govt farm or where you can work and qualify for these benefits.

Mehn you don turn redneck o

Gaddemit.

Anyway, I sense from this post that you are asking me for a solution to the 'nigger' problem of America.

Education is not free in US. Many of those niggas only have access to underfunded public schools and can only make it to college on a sports scholarship.

Those guys are unique in that they have been an underprivileged class for over 300 years. Centuries of inherited poverty has so affected their collective psyche that they all they want is to make that money even if it's just for a minutes.

Many have nothing to lose, so they really pursue that crack or sports dream, because the Government has blocked thier way into normal society. When they get the money, they don't know what to do with it, so they act reckless and go broke in a few years.

These niggas have suffered for so long, that invented a genre of music to discuss how much disposable income they have. They wear huge diamonds and gold chains and gold teeth and etc...

What more proof do you need of the dangers of an unequal society?

CFCman:
lwkmd.

As for me, I'm a conservative-leaning independent. I'm only in favor of 20% of Bernie Sanders' proposals like increased subsidized higher education, and re-negotiating the "free" trade deals that have led to the loss of millions of manufacturing jobs in the US within the last 20 years.

There should be fewer regulations on businesses, and a simplified tax code which eliminates most of the current credits and deductions.

Also, a minimum wage based on COLA should be in place. In that regard, I'm all for Secretary Clinton's $12/hour proposal at the federal level. Individual states could set a higher or lower minimum wage based on the cost of living in their states.

I believe the government should get out of the business of marriage. There shouldn't be a tax incentive to get married, and people should be free to marry whomever they love. The only deviation I would suggest is that marriages should be registered in the courts for purposes of family law.

Now, in a choice between Trump and Hillary, I'm leaning towards Hillary because she is in the middle, politically, of both Sanders and Trump (or Gary Johnson). But if she gets indicted by the DOJ, I may just sit out the November election.

Why you dey laugh? If you need other men to help you pay your bills because they are richer, then you should let other men help out with your wife because they are better endowed

The tax code should favour job creators especially those who create jobs within America, Give tax incentives to those who have taken their money to Cayman Island to bring it back

I dont even support increasing minimum wage at Federal level , Let the state decide based on standard of living. Also forces of demand and supply dictate. If 3 employers are trying to get employees let the one who pays most get it

Regarding marriage, If I bring my dog to court to marry should that be okay? or if nihilist brings his mattress to court to marry?

raumdeuter:


Why you dey laugh? If you need other men to help you pay your bills because they are richer, then you should let other men help out with your wife because they are better endowed

The tax code should favour job creators especially those who create jobs within America, Give tax incentives to those who have taken their money to Cayman Island to bring it back

I dont even support increasing minimum wage at Federal level , Let the state decide based on standard of living. Also forces of demand and supply dictate. If 3 employers are trying to get employees let the one who pays most get it

Regarding marriage, If I bring my dog to court to marry should that be okay? or if nihilist brings his mattress to court to marry?

LOL

That's the exact same reason I disagree with gay marriage.

Why should they decide that it's illegal to have more than one wife...yet insist that two men must marry.

CFCman:
Group B of African WC qualifying zone

Zambia
Cameroon
Nigeria
Algeria.

Guys, do you think the Super Eagles will qualify from this group?

This is arguably Nigeria's toughest ever World cup qualifying group!

Yes we will qualify out of this group because we will take it serious from the start.

It is when you see us paired with Tanzania, Angola and Burundi that you should be worried. Then you'll see them going into the first 2 matches with no coach contracted and only local players called up to the squad. Before they wake up, they are too far behind to qualify.

Nihilist:
Mehn you don turn redneck o

Gaddemit.

Anyway, I sense from this post that you are asking me for a solution to the 'nigger' problem of America.

Education is not free in US. Many of those niggas only have access to underfunded public schools and can only make it to college on a sports scholarship.

Those guys are unique in that they have been an underprivileged class for over 300 years. Centuries of inherited poverty has so affected their collective psyche that they all they want is to make that money even if it's just for a minutes.

Many have nothing to lose, so they really pursue that crack or sports dream, because the Government has blocked thier way into normal society. When they get the money, they don't know what to do with it, so they act reckless and go broke in a few years.

These niggas have suffered for so long, that invented a genre of music to discuss how much disposable income they have. They wear huge diamonds and gold chains and gold teeth and etc...

What more proof do you need of the dangers of an unequal society?

The solution to the black problem is fixing the breakdown of families structure. This is mostly encouraged by liberal leaning views. The breakdown of family means the family depends on one income thus more poverty, it means one parent have to work more than normal and cant raise the kids growing up. The kids are thus raised by the street and the useless area fathers who introduce them to drugs and crime early or get them pregnant by 13

E.g a case in Louisiana, a woman whose kids went to burglarize the neighbors house, whipped the kids after that, Next thing she has been thrown in jail. Thats part of the liberal campaign to break down family, encourage single motherhood, be free from consequences of decisions and basically YOLO your life. Now if the kids had been shot by the owner of the house they would start protesting on the streets or if they do the burglary when they are 18 they would be given lenghty sentence and cant get a job for life, but now its illegal for the biological mother to correct them but okay for govt to send them to long jail terms.

No govt can grow the society like the family. Look at the African American in the 60's look at that time when the family was still together. Look at their black heroes like Malcolm X, Martin Luther, Rosa Parks even Mohammed Ali see how they dressed responsibly, see the logical arguments they gave for civil rights, their level of education. I watched it recently and I was impressed and wonder how they got from that place to where they are right now.

Their heroes are now Lil Wayne and Nicki Minaj. I was chilling with a 9yr old black boy he saw my facebook and asked "whyy is it that all your brothers and sisters have the same last name as you?

If the family restructure is not reinstated nothing would change. An African or Asian would come to America who can barely speak English but because they still have an intact family structure they would rise in the society. The richest groups are still those who keep the family intact

If you look at Nigeria sef the YOLO thing is coming soon and the breakdown of the family is gaining grounds, Look at a whole Dele Momodu celebrating his niece who's a baby momma to Davido, Some weeks ago I saw her twerking on instagram to celebrate her birthday, Honestly what do you expect her to teach her daughter?

raumdeuter:


The solution to the black problem is fixing the breakdown of families structure. This is mostly encouraged by liberal leaning views. The breakdown of family means the family depends on one income thus more poverty, it means one parent have to work more than normal and cant raise the kids growing up. The kids are thus raised by the street and the useless area fathers who introduce them to drugs and crime early or get them pregnant by 13

E.g a case in Louisiana, a woman whose kids went to burglarize the neighbors house, whipped the kids after that, Next thing she has been thrown in jail. Thats part of the liberal campaign to break down family, encourage single motherhood, be free from consequences of decisions and basically YOLO your life. Now if the kids had been shot by the owner of the house they would start protesting on the streets or if they do the burglary when they are 18 they would be given lenghty sentence and cant get a job for life, but now its illegal for the biological mother to correct them but okay for govt to send them to long jail terms.

No govt can grow the society like the family. Look at the African American in the 60's look at that time when the family was still together. Look at their black heroes like Malcolm X, Martin Luther, Rosa Parks even Mohammed Ali see how they dressed responsibly, see the logical arguments they gave for civil rights, their level of education. I watched it recently and I was impressed and wonder how they got from that place to where they are right now.

Their heroes are now Lil Wayne and Nicki Minaj. I was chilling with a 9yr old black boy he saw my facebook and asked "whyy is it that all your brothers and sisters have the same last name as you?

If the family restructure is not reinstated nothing would change. An African or Asian would come to America who can barely speak English but because they still have an intact family structure they would rise in the society. The richest groups are still those who keep the family intact

If you look at Nigeria sef the YOLO thing is coming soon and the breakdown of the family is gaining grounds, Look at a whole Dele Momodu celebrating his niece who's a baby momma to Davido, Some weeks ago I saw her twerking on instagram to celebrate her birthday, Honestly what do you expect her to teach her daughter?

So single parents are responsible for poverty?

The points you made are very very valid...but i dont think they invalidate mine.


I'm more concerned about that"chilling with one 9year old black boy" line though...

Nihilist:
So single parents are responsible for poverty?

The points you made are very very valid...but i dont think they invalidate mine.


I'm more concerned about that"chilling with one 9year old black boy" line though...

I was friends with the mother, So I had to engage him while the mother got ready

Ibime:


Yes we will qualify out of this group because we will take it serious from the start.

It is when you see us paired with Tanzania, Angola and Burundi that you should be worried. Then you'll see them going into the first 2 matches with no coach contracted and only local players called up to the squad. Before they wake up, they are too far behind to qualify.

we won't qualify bro, we don't even have coach presently, and the nff under amaju pininck is useless.

Ibime:


Yes we will qualify out of this group because we will take it serious from the start.

It is when you see us paired with Tanzania, Angola and Burundi that you should be worried. Then you'll see them going into the first 2 matches with no coach contracted and only local players called up to the squad. Before they wake up, they are too far behind to qualify.

Bros its not about taking it serious, Naija no get talents to play football anymore. Do you know any of our players playing in regularly currently for their clubs?

Cameroun have Matip Chupo Moting, Nkolou, Nyom, ABoubakar, kanemi I cant even name Nigerias 11

chrisley024:
Hmm. Barca has plenty of them. The whole 3 forward are non EU.

Please remove Messi from that list...

raumdeuter:


Why you dey laugh? If you need other men to help you pay your bills because they are richer, then you should let other men help out with your wife because they are better endowed

The tax code should favour job creators especially those who create jobs within America, Give tax incentives to those who have taken their money to Cayman Island to bring it back

I dont even support increasing minimum wage at Federal level , Let the state decide based on standard of living. Also forces of demand and supply dictate. If 3 employers are trying to get employees let the one who pays most get it

Regarding marriage, If I bring my dog to court to marry should that be okay? or if nihilist brings his mattress to court to marry?

Lol. I'm not in favor of unlimited marriage rights. I'm only for marriage between consenting adults.

I agree that the tax code should incentivize creation of jobs. But I don't like a situation where some corporations pay near zero taxes (federal taxes) after calculating all deductions and credits.

I also don't like the fact that hedge-fund managers effectively pay a lower tax rate than an elementary school teacher. It's not fair. But I wouldn't subscribe to slamming a 40-50% tax rate on millionaires and billionaires.

The corporate tax rate could be 20% of revenue. Millionaires and billionaires could be taxed at 25% of TOTAL income, while middle and working class folks ie those earning less than $1 million could have a 20% federal tax rate.

I would favor the elimination of social security tax too. People should be free to save for retirement in whatever way they choose.

Ibime:


Biafrans should organise themselves first and show they are capable of choosing good leaders.

It would be a shame to hand Biafra over to the Orji Uzor Kalus, Wikes, Amaechis, Ikpeazus, Iboris, Dicksons, Ubah brothers, Tompolos and Atekes of this world.

I was just telling someone exactly this.

This is why Biafra doesn't excite me.

Besides, the Niger Deltans will chase everyone else away, from their oil, and turn into Qatar.

Ibime:


Yes we will qualify out of this group because we will take it serious from the start.

It is when you see us paired with Tanzania, Angola and Burundi that you should be worried. Then you'll see them going into the first 2 matches with no coach contracted and only local players called up to the squad. Before they wake up, they are too far behind to qualify.

You're right. I recall our failure to qualify for the 2006 WC. The SE were grouped with the likes of Angola, Gabon, Zimbabwe, and a then mediocre Algeria. The eagles only woke up when it was too late

Nihilist:


LOL

That's the exact same reason I disagree with gay marriage.

Why should they decide that it's illegal to have more than one wife...yet insist that two men must marry.

I still can't fathom why the West prohibits polygamy.

What has this thread turn into sef ....
Cant comprehend anything here anymore

What exactly are we talking about??

Marriage, Society or what eef

CFCman:

I still can't fathom why the West prohibits polygamy.

population control?

bigkesh:
What exactly are we talking about??

Marriage, Society or what eef

Chestar5:
What has this thread turn into sef ....
Cant comprehend anything here anymore

Since una club no want form activity, wetin we go yarn?

Even Spurs done sign Wanyama who could have been a good signing for us, but we still dey dull.

For now nothing to yarn about Chelsea.

Chelse should just announce someone,even if na nihilist will sign I won't mind

Kolade354:
Chelse should just announce someone,even if na nihilist will sign I won't mind

As technical director right?

Kolade354:
Chelse should just announce someone,even if na nihilist will sign I won't mind

e better say this conte man come back first... nobi if dem sign now the person flop you go blame emenalo

diggz:




As technical director right?

lol na central defender .
Abeg miss nairaland is ongoing on fashion thread.
Queen mimzy need your vote boss.
All you have to do is vote mimzy and Cc:NLjega.

lordfalcao:
e better say this conte man come back first... nobi if dem sign now the person flop you go blame emenalo

Man city-gundogan,and nolito too.
Man utd-Eric bailly
Arsenal-Xhaka
Chelseafc-........
I dey fear oooo

Make Italy lose to Spain make Conte come start work jare. Preseason starts on Friday.

Meanwhile I like Joe Alan. We should consider him for £8m.

Meanwhile @ CFCman,sleekdot,Nihilist,Ibime, SailorXY and co.

Thumbs Up guys!!! Your discourse made a nice read.

See Shaqiri goal

Son of Man!

Goal of the tournament.

See Goal!!

Kolade354:
Man city-gundogan
Man utd-Eric bailly
Arsenal-Xhaka
Chelseafc-........
I dey fear oooo

e better at least make we know who we dy sign than bringing in flops

Ibime:
Make Italy lose to Spain make Conte come start work jare. Preseason starts on Friday.

Meanwhile I like Joe Alan. We should consider him for £8m.

I want make Italy carry that cup biko....