Am not an atheist, though most people see me as thiest (but not a religious one though) just attending church for the sake of attending,but deep in my mind am an agnostic.but with kinda things I go through might end up being an atheist, because I don't even feel the if any God exist, cause I have not even felt him before, I watch people catch holy ghost and testifying to seeing angels but not even have I had a dream bout one before. We just have to keep worshiping though we shouldn't believe what we can see,but we worship him due to fear of the unknown.

Sometimes I even pray that if he exist he should show at least show himself in a dream or through a pastor,but he still never show himself to me,he doesn't have any message for me,damn who TF is he,we should keep worshipping him cause he we were told fairytale about one stupid hell they keep threatening us with.

Me and my friends once attended a night vigil,when the pastor was touching all of them head they kept falling (in my mind I was laughing at their funny charade), when it got to my time I didn't fall, I didn't even move back as he was trying to force me to maybe fall, since then i no attend the yeye church.

What am trying to drive at is am beginning to doubt the existence of God and if he doesn't show himself to me one of this days, then I might graduate into an atheist. Mind you oh yea preachers and gullible ones I don't need your preaching and bible verses. I have heard enough of that.

OP is just like me
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Religion has done more harm than good to humanity. #fact

SeverusSnape:


OP is just like me...

boss mi am begining to have a re-think bout the existence of God,when I ask some people how he manifest in my life,they would say its cause of him I breath nd its cause of his mercy am able to exist.well I told him this night to kill me if he is really pissed off with me,since he takes joy in killing nd making people sad.if 2nite he doesn't show himself to me even if its in a dream then he doesn't exist
I realise that when u kneel down nd pray u realise that u talking to urself

iamDiabolic:
boss mi am begining to have a re-think bout the existence of God,when I ask some people how he manifest in my life,they would say its cause of him I breath nd its cause of his mercy am able to exist.well I told him this night to kill me if he is really pissed off with me,since he takes joy in killing nd making people sad.if 2nite he doesn't show himself to me even if its in a dream then he doesn't exist
I realise that when u kneel down nd pray u realise that u talking to urself

I started having this same thoughts about three years ago, Since then, I ceased to be a religious/pious person. Many things just doesn't seem right, Look at all the atrocities in the world, the sufferings and deaths and an Almighty God is there folding his arms.

I can't even remember the last time I did that thing called prayer.
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SeverusSnape:
I started having this same thoughts about three years ago, Since then, I ceased to be a religious/pious person. Many things just doesn't seem right, Look at all the atrocities in the world, the sufferings and deaths and an Almighty God is there folding his arms.

I can't even remember the last time I did that thing called prayer.

It's all bullshit bro. In fact, religion bleeps someone's life up. I wonder why a God would let people die anyhow? I read the bullshit story about the ISIS guy that died and came back (I am sure it's staged though), and he converted to Christianity. If it's true then God must be wicked for giving such a terrorist second chance and he still think he has the right to judge who died through this ISIS. I'll rather be an humanist than be one dumb religious fanatic.

iamDiabolic:
It's all bullshit bro. In fact, religion bleeps someone's life up. I wonder why a God would let people die anyhow? I read the bullshit story about the ISIS guy that died and came back (I am sure it's staged though), and he converted to Christianity. If it's true then God must be wicked for giving such a terrorist second chance and he still think he has the right to judge who died through this ISIS. I'll rather be an humanist than be one dumb religious fanatic.

Hilarious story. Seriously bro, These religions takes away a person's rational reasoning. Humanism is the way to go.

herzern:
no matter what...... God loves you.......Jesus is somewhere pleading on ur behalf.....please don't succumb to those thouqhts.......they want to push you to hell



my 2 cent

So God (who's a merciful and loving God), of whom the bible say 'his mercies endureth forever', will send a human (whom he created in his own image) to hell??... But why?

I believe no matter what your child does to you, you can't send him/her to a fiery furnace.

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SeverusSnape:
Hilarious story. Seriously bro, These religions takes away a person's rational reasoning. Humanism is the way to go.

lmao I don't even believe in all those crap. Na so one of my friends wey him popsy be pastor, the guy go dey ask him popsy if he go pass this course or the other. Him popsy go they use style say maybe, sometimes his popsy go say yes. He come get one course wey he ask his popsy if he go pass (law of equity); his popsy said yes. Mehn, when result come out my nigger get 35 and cut-off mark na 55, the yeye guy cancel am, I laugh eh.

SeverusSnape:

So God (who's a merciful and loving God), of whom the bible say 'his mercies endureth forever', will send a human (whom he created in his own image) to hell??... But why?

Because you chose not to believe him.......

herzern:


Because you chose not to believe him.......

Oh, really?!... This is one of the dumbest replies I've gotten on Nairaland so far. Just because I didn't believe in him, must everyone believe in him?

Besides, why should I believe in something/someone that I can't feel his impact and presence?

SeverusSnape:

So God (who's a merciful and loving God), of whom the bible say 'his mercies endureth forever', will send a human (whom he created in his own image) to hell??... But why?

as in why create hell if he really wants us to have free will.90% of those who go to church nd mosque nd all those religious terrorist do all what they do because of threat of hell.why not remove that threat of hell nd dee how religious terrorism would stop nd how lot of people would stop woshipping him.that's like inferirity complex to me

iamDiabolic:
lmao I don't even believe in all those crap.na so one of my friend wey him popsy be pastor,d guy go dy ask him popsy if he go pass this couse or the other him popsy go they use style say maybe,sometimes his popsy go say yes.he come get one course wey he ask his popsy if he go pass(law of equity) his popsy said yes,mehn when result come out my nigger get 35 nd cut-off mark na 55,d yeye guy cancel am,I laugh eh.

Hehehe

That's how they all behave, Instead of working hard on their own.

Some days back, One of my friend put up a profile picture on Whatsapp that had this caption: 'God please increase my GP'. I just laughed and told him, "Bros, God can't increase your GP, you have to read hard and put in all your best to come out with a good result", The guy reason am na, naso him change DP sharp sharp

iamDiabolic:
as in why create hell if he really wants us to have free will.90% of those who go to church nd mosque nd all those religious terrorist do all what they do because of threat of hell.why not remove that threat of hell nd dee how religious terrorism would stop nd how lot of people would stop woshipping him.that's like inferirity complex to me

Believe me when I say, Many people practice religion because of the fear of hell. In fact, Going by the standard the bible/Koran/Torah want us to live, then all of us are going to hell then, because no one is truly holy.

SeverusSnape:

Hehehe

That's how they all behave, Instead of working hard on their own.

Some days back, One of my friend put up a profile picture on Whatsapp that had this caption: 'God please increase my GP'. I just laughed and told him, "Bros, God can't increase your GP, you have to read hard and put in all your best to come out with a good result", The guy reason am na, naso him change DP sharp sharp

haha because God na hacker wey fit hack school system increase his gp na,av seen lot of people who have not don't go to church or mosque live better life than most of those who sleep in curch nd mosque always nd all those pastors go still dy collect the last money wey d gullible poor people get

iamDiabolic:
haha because God na hacker wey fit hack school system increase his gp na,av seen lot of people who have not don't go to church or mosque live better life than most of those who sleep in curch nd mosque always nd all those pastors go still dy collect the last money wey d gullible poor people get

Of course, See countries wey carry religion for head, they aren't even moving forward. Check out those that don't even actively practice religion, they are forging ahead and making giant strides.

Most churches these days na business na. The pastors specialise in fleecing their members.

SeverusSnape:

Of course, See countries wey carry religion for head, they aren't even moving forward. Check out those that don't even actively practice religion, they are forging ahead and making giant strides.

Most churches these days na business na. The pastors specialise in fleecing their members.

I tire for them oh,countries that practice buddhism are more developed.even america dat is a a very developed country nd all this european xtian contry are the only target of ISIS,how cum dy don't target japan nd all this country doing buddhism,something is fishy bout both christianity nd islam.cause its only country where they dominate that are not always stable,av nt heard of religious fanatic killing in japan

Op, I'm glad about your write up and that's was how 70% atheist started out being atheist.

The phase were you at is "questioning phase" and believe you me, it's a point of no return, Why?

Intelligence is gathered through questioning then getting answers or no answer would leave you determining if you want to develop your intelligent mind or remain stuck, which I believe you don't, that's why you gonna eventually turn atheist. Welcome in advance.

To answer your second question.

If there was a God, Predestination can't be altered by men for instance, If God created Adam in the garden of Eden with the knowledge he was gonna eat out of the forbidden tree? Why did he then banished Adam and Eve for offense he already know they would commit? Or if didn't know they gonna commit that sin, that would also mean he's not an all knowing God.

Either ways, you could determine that predestination is cut short by God he also made mistake for creating man because he caused his creation and sent them out the garden

hm

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truth is that most Christians are agnostic

if you doubt this, just ask them if God is real, they'll always answer in the affirmative

now ask them why they know their God is the one true God, why they think the Muslim faith is wrong

watch them give you the rope to hang themselves because they'll criticize the Muslim faith the same way Muslims would criticize the Christian faith

That's because they judge all other gods LOGICALLY but that same logic is nowhere to be found when its time for Yahweh

hopefulLandlord:
hm

we would have been better of as buddhism instead of worshippong an hypocritical god that threatens us with hell

iamDiabolic:
boss mi am begining to have a re-think bout the existence of God,when I ask some people how he manifest in my life,they would say its cause of him I breath nd its cause of his mercy am able to exist.well I told him this night to kill me if he is really pissed off with me,since he takes joy in killing nd making people sad.if 2nite he doesn't show himself to me even if its in a dream then he doesn't exist
I realise that when u kneel down nd pray u realise that u talking to urself

Hahn , is this your new account. This guy sounds like you . If God does not answer your prayers , you are obviously living in sin . Some people's prayers don't get answered because they are filled with sin - it is clearly written in your bible . That's why it feels like you are talking to yourself , you are spiritually empty and indeed you are talking to yourself .

SeverusSnape:

Religion has done more harm than good to humanity. #fact

Atheists have the disposition to hate , terrorise , kill for selfish gains . They lost their sanity because they failed to believe in God

Here are atheist leaders over the past 100 years . Atheism has led to the death of more than 250 million people !!!

-Mao Ze-Dong (China, 1958-61 and 1966-69, Tibet 1949-50) 49-78,000,000 people murdered
-Jozef Stalin (USSR 1932-39 only) 15,000,000 people murdered
-Pol Pot (Cambodia, 1975-79) 1,700,000 people murdered
-Kim II Sung (North Korea 1948-94) 1.6 million people murdered
-Tito (Yugoslavia 1945-1987) 570,000 people murdered
-Suharto (Communists 1967-66) 500,000 people murdered
-Ante Pavelic (Croatia 1941-45) 359,000 people murdered
-Ho Chi Min (Vietnam 1953-56) 200,000 people murdered
-Vladimir Ilich Lenin (USSR, 1917-20) 30,000 people murdered
-Adolf Hitler (Germany 1939-1945) 12,000,000 people murdered

The veracity of the above information can be verified by checking through credible sources .

Please read this carefully :

1. https://www.nairaland.com/2988881/atheism-terrorism-annihilation-quest-atheistic

2. https://www.nairaland.com/3176513/atheist-murderers-past-present-murderous

iamDiabolic:
we would have been better of as buddhism instead of worshippong an hypocritical god that threatens us with hell

The nescient talk again. No one implores you to be a Christian . Hell is a deterrent . Look up the word "deterrent " . And deterrent ain't threats

hopefulLandlord:
truth is that most Christians are agnostic

if you doubt this, just ask them if God is real, they'll always answer in the affirmative


now ask them why they know their God is the one true God, why they think the Muslim faith is wrong


watch them give you the rope to hang themselves because they'll criticize the Muslim faith the same way Muslims would criticize the Christian faith


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That's because they judge all other gods LOGICALLY but that same logic is nowhere to be found when its time for Yahweh

most christians worship god because of the fear of hell,if 2day chritians nd muslim had prove beyond reasonable doubt that there is no hell,most of them gonna denounce that dictator called yahweh

KingEbukasBlog:


Hahn , is this your new account. This guy sounds like you . If God does answer your prayers , you are obviously living in sin . Some people's prayers don't get answered because they are filled with sin - it is clearly written in your bible . That's why it feels like you are talking to yourself , you are spiritually empty and indeed you are talking to yourself .

am not any other guy,this my first time posting on religion section,nigger talking bout sin I know some people,onfact lot of people who don't even step into church nd mosque door but they live better life than the so call religious one,talking about sin am not perfect but am better than some people nd they enjoying life to the fullest.so bro u got no point

KingEbukasBlog:


The nescient talk again. No one implores you to be a Christian . Hell is a deterrent . Look up the word "deterrent " . And deterrent ain't threats

if hell is deterrent then it means we don't have any free will as claimed by most religious fellas,its just the case of ur pops telling you that ebuka stay at home don't go out,but you are also free to go out nd play.but have it at the back of ur mind that if you go outside ill punish u when am back,but if u stay in door ill buy ice cream nd pamper you.now bro don't mind me for using your name as example but can u tell me the free will in that,would u want to stay indoor knowing the enjoy that comes with staying indoor nd the punishment dat is tagged to going outdoor to play

iamDiabolic:
am not any other guy,this my first time posting on religion section,nigger talking bout sin I know some people,onfact lot of people who don't even step into church nd mosque door but they live better life than the so call religious one,talking about sin am not perfect but am better than some people nd they enjoying life to the fullest.so bro u got no point

Being religious does not make you born again or mean you are living a life of rectitude . Prayer without works is meaningless and whatever you sow you reap . That means that even if you are an atheist and work hard , are sedulous , honest , you'd reap greatly . Being a Christian just makes it easier and better for you and your salvation is a ticket to eternal benisons .

Again , not going to church does not mean you don't believe in God . I think you should change your church since your church can't change you.

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