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Reasons Why There Are More Atheists Coming From Christianity Than Islam by truthman2012(m): 5:13pm On Jul 01, 2016 |
Muslims accuse Christianity of breeding atheists. They fail to recognise the fact that it is not everyone bearing Christian name that is truly a Christian. In fact, you are not a Christian by birth even when it is long you have been attending a Church. You are not a Christian until you one day actually confess Jesus Christ as your personal Saviour, come rain come shine. Those who accept Jesus, not based on what they want to get from God but what to give to Him are the true Christians. Many of those invited to Jesus on condition on God's blessing them cannot go far with God. I have heard preachers tell a very large congregation fantastic benefits of accepting Jesus other than salvation. Even though God blesses His children but that is not why we should serve Him. Making God's blessings a means of serving Him is a satanic bait. The people who accept Christ in this way, most of them turn atheists when things are not as good as expected. Another reason why many Church goers turn atheists is their inability to get their heart desire, especially wealth or success in some areas. They feel God has disappointed them, forgetting or not knowing that God's blessings are not without conditions. The Bible says: It shall come to pass if thou shall hearken diligently unto the voice of the Lord thy God to observe and to do ALL his commandments..... (Deut. 28:1). Other verses of the same chapter stipulates what God promised the holy and obedient children. The problem with the people is that they cannot live a life of total obedience to God to attract his promised blessings. So they become disappointed when their prayers for blessing are not answered. There are things people want from God desperately, irrespective of whether or not are the will of God for their lives. There are things you want from God, which He will do but not the time you want it because He knows what is good for you at the right time. The people who are not deep with God would have forsaken Him before it is time for Him to act. And so they become atheists. Another reason normal Christians become atheists is to free themselves from the prison of their conscience. There is a high standard of holiness required from the Christians. When they cannot meet the standard, they come to the conclusion that there is no God to liberate them to be committing sins. Coming to islam, there are no specific promises of Allah based on holy and moral living. Therefore, there is no room for disappointment. You get disappointed only when you have a failed promise. You remain a muslim as long as you pray five times daily irrespective of your lifestyle. It is only during Ramadan fast they try to caution themselves in doing or not doing certain things as if Allah is not seeing them when not fasting. It is a sin for a Christian to look at a woman with lust, and this is what many people are guilty of. To freely do this, all you need is renounce Christianity and become an atheist, otherwise you will be in prison of your conscience. But with muslims, it is no sin looking on another man's wife as their Allah ordained such: Abu Aahuraira reported Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) as saying:Verily Allah has fixed the very portion of adultery which a man will indulge in and which he of necessity must commit. The adultery of the eye is the lustful look and the adultery of the tongue is the licentious speech, the heart desire and yearns, which the parts may or may not put into effect (Sahih Muslim, Book 033, Number 6421 & 6422) Ye have heard that it was said by them of the old time, Thou shall not commit adultery: But I say unto you, that whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart (Matthew 5:27-28). Since islam permits everything that pleases the flesh: coming adultery, fighting, retaliation, lying when it matters etc., why would any muslim turn to an atheist to enjoy the sins the atheists enjoy. The difference between atheism and islam is the five-time daily prayers because they (muslims) believe in a god. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Reasons Why There Are More Atheists Coming From Christianity Than Islam by Oyiboman69: 5:15pm On Jul 01, 2016 |
as I grow older... I now strongly believe that religion is a scam. I'm not saying that there is no God. so don't quote me. FTC... I dedicate this to my son Ryan and all the different religion on nairaland for their support during my odyssey 6 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Reasons Why There Are More Atheists Coming From Christianity Than Islam by Dreal11247: 5:45pm On Jul 01, 2016 |
Another reason being that some so-called men of God are not preaching the right messages. How can you be prophesying to an armed robber or a prostitute without preaching repentance first. |
Re: Reasons Why There Are More Atheists Coming From Christianity Than Islam by truthman2012(m): 5:53pm On Jul 01, 2016 |
Dreal11247: You are right. I know many pastors who are pastors because of what they want to eat. Can you imagine a pastor asking a large congregation to make donation? How does he know what work they are doing? But that doesn't mean there are no true men of God. In fact, there can be no fake if there is no original. 1 Like |
Re: Reasons Why There Are More Atheists Coming From Christianity Than Islam by UyiIredia(m): 6:51pm On Jul 01, 2016 |
Christians are more liberal than Muslims. That is why you find most atheists coming from their ranks. BUT there are actually ex-Muslim atheists especially in the US. 3 Likes |
Re: Reasons Why There Are More Atheists Coming From Christianity Than Islam by annunaki2(m): 7:29pm On Jul 01, 2016 |
@OP you are not entirely correct, firstly there are a lot more christians than muslims so it's only natural that you have more ex christian atheists than ex muslim atheist but in reality there might actually be more ex muslim atheist. A recent online survey done in saudi arabia revealed that they have a closet atheist population of 5% and closet christian population of almost 10%. In all reality because of evil islamic apotasy laws, ex muslim atheist rarely come out and declare their non faith as such it seems that there are more ex christian atheist. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Reasons Why There Are More Atheists Coming From Christianity Than Islam by truthman2012(m): 7:53pm On Jul 01, 2016 |
annunaki2: Well, as ex-muslim atheists rarely come out for fear of apostasy, that could account for the reason it is believed there are more atheists in Christianity than islam. But the reasons why there are atheists in Christianity still stand. |
Re: Reasons Why There Are More Atheists Coming From Christianity Than Islam by winner01(m): 8:20pm On Jul 01, 2016 |
Funny but true. 9 Likes 2 Shares
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Re: Reasons Why There Are More Atheists Coming From Christianity Than Islam by Demmzy15(m): 1:49am On Jul 02, 2016 |
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Re: Reasons Why There Are More Atheists Coming From Christianity Than Islam by Ranchhoddas: 1:52am On Jul 02, 2016 |
The ''no true scotsman fallacy'' in all its glory. 3 Likes |
Re: Reasons Why There Are More Atheists Coming From Christianity Than Islam by cloudgoddess(f): 3:37am On Jul 02, 2016 |
For whatever reason I expected this to be a smart thread but nope, just more fallacious claims ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: Reasons Why There Are More Atheists Coming From Christianity Than Islam by Nobody: 7:24am On Jul 02, 2016 |
Ranchhoddas: Touché! |
Re: Reasons Why There Are More Atheists Coming From Christianity Than Islam by Weah96: 8:35am On Jul 02, 2016 |
Muslims fear for their lives, so they either suppress their feelings or learn to live a lie. It's easy to feign the performance of meaningless rituals for a reward. Pastors do it for cash. Atheists Muslims do it to keep their heads attached to their bodies. 2 Likes |
Re: Reasons Why There Are More Atheists Coming From Christianity Than Islam by 1999pikin: 9:26am On Jul 02, 2016 |
the truth is that they where never Christians they where church goers or they just wanted to please there parents who may be in the Christian faith . How many of them can tell you that they accepted Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior? how many of them can tell you that they ones received the gifts of the spirit.none! they were juss tired of church and decided to brand themselves a new name "atheists " |
Re: Reasons Why There Are More Atheists Coming From Christianity Than Islam by CAPSLOCKED: 9:41am On Jul 02, 2016 |
Weah96: TONS OF MUSLIMS ARE DYING IN SILENCE BRO.... A MUSLIM WOULD RATHER BEHEAD A FELLOW MAN THAN BEHEAD A PIG! ![]() ISLAM IS SUCH A CRUEL RELIGION. 2 Likes |
Re: Reasons Why There Are More Atheists Coming From Christianity Than Islam by Rilwon: 10:19am On Jul 02, 2016 |
truthman2012: And fools like you would later come out to tell us how stoning to death is the punishment for adultery ![]() Ye have heard that it was said by them of the old time, Thou shall not commit adultery: Many Christians are sure going to hell, I guarantee it. You included ![]() [s] Since islam permits everything that pleases the flesh: coming adultery, fighting, retaliation, lying when it matters etc., why would any muslim turn to an atheist to enjoy the sins the atheists enjoy. The difference between atheism and islam is the five-time daily prayers because they (muslims) believe in a god. [/s] 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Reasons Why There Are More Atheists Coming From Christianity Than Islam by Rilwon: 10:24am On Jul 02, 2016 |
What one would expect the op to do is to create a thread where he would be answering questions posed from unbelievers of the Bible, after all they have always been questioning the authenticity of the Bible as well as ridiculous nonsense in it. I know annunaki' is not really a Christian hence the reason why you hardly see him replying his fellow atheist brethrens. |
Re: Reasons Why There Are More Atheists Coming From Christianity Than Islam by truthman2012(m): 10:28am On Jul 02, 2016 |
Rilwon: Islam is such a hypocritical religion fraught with irreconcilable confusions that came from the pit of hell. Why should you stone adulterers or adulteresses when it is your allahh that caused it for them? Are you saying Muhammad was wrong when he said Allah had fixed adultery for you islamists? Is that my own statement or Muhammad's? Something must be wrong with your reasoning faculty. For you to remain a muslim after reading all you have been reading, allahh has actually tampered with your reasoning. |
Re: Reasons Why There Are More Atheists Coming From Christianity Than Islam by Rilwon: 10:29am On Jul 02, 2016 |
1999pikin: This is just another nonsense oozing out from your end ![]() I will advice you to do the same. how many of them can tell you that they ones received the gifts of the spirit. Have you ![]() ![]() none! they were juss tired of church and decided to brand themselves a new name "atheists " They are not just tired of going to church, they stopped going when Christians like you couldn't answer the questions they were asking about the inconsistencies and contradictions in the bible. 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Reasons Why There Are More Atheists Coming From Christianity Than Islam by Rilwon: 10:32am On Jul 02, 2016 |
And then, op, I think you are not really doing enough, can't you organize a group where you would be revealing the beauty of Christianity to us, I think that would at least reduce the level at which people are turning atheist on this board. My candid advice sha, Why do you think? |
Re: Reasons Why There Are More Atheists Coming From Christianity Than Islam by truthman2012(m): 10:39am On Jul 02, 2016 |
Rilwon: Quran is the worse book in terms of contradictions and inconsistencies as allahh was substituting his revelations with what he called better ones as if there was somebody giving him new ideas (Qur'an 2:106). See Qur'anic contradictions here: www.nairaland.com/2511448/contradictions-quran You islamic guys are yet to save allahh from the many lies he told: www.nairaland.com/2507051/muhammad-vs-other-prophets |
Re: Reasons Why There Are More Atheists Coming From Christianity Than Islam by truthman2012(m): 10:46am On Jul 02, 2016 |
Rilwon: If Church goers turn to atheists, it is because they are bread and butter Christians who want to enjoy the sins in the world. Muslims do not have reason to turn to atheists before they can enjoy this sinful world, their allahh permits all kinds of sin. |
Re: Reasons Why There Are More Atheists Coming From Christianity Than Islam by onetrack(m): 10:57am On Jul 02, 2016 |
truthman2012: Christians can and do enjoy the sins of the world. As long as you believe Jesus died for your sins, what prevents you from doing whatever? 1 Like |
Re: Reasons Why There Are More Atheists Coming From Christianity Than Islam by truthman2012(m): 11:08am On Jul 02, 2016 |
onetrack: Jesus died for sins committed in the time of ignorance (Acts 17:30). Any unrepented sins committed after the knowledge of Christ attract severe punishment (Heb. 10:26-27). |
Re: Reasons Why There Are More Atheists Coming From Christianity Than Islam by 1999pikin: 11:13am On Jul 02, 2016 |
Rilwon:your last quote is the reason I said they never accept Christ in the first place . |
Re: Reasons Why There Are More Atheists Coming From Christianity Than Islam by onetrack(m): 11:29am On Jul 02, 2016 |
truthman2012: So then praying for forgiveness is useless. |
Re: Reasons Why There Are More Atheists Coming From Christianity Than Islam by annunaki2(m): 11:31am On Jul 02, 2016 |
Rilwon: You must be a big foool to suggest I am not really christian. I remain proudly and unapologetically christian with every fibre in my body. The reason I don't engage atheists is because they are harmless guys just trying to express their delusions unlike muslims on this forum who are trying to repackage their extremely dangerous and vile religion into something that has an appearance of decency. My mission is to expose the works of satan as represented by islam and for |
Re: Reasons Why There Are More Atheists Coming From Christianity Than Islam by Rilwon: 11:33am On Jul 02, 2016 |
I will be right back |
Re: Reasons Why There Are More Atheists Coming From Christianity Than Islam by truthman2012(m): 11:34am On Jul 02, 2016 |
onetrack: Did you understand my post? [ b]truthman2012[/b] You pray for forgiveness after repentance. You don't repent alone, you also ask for forgiveness. |
Re: Reasons Why There Are More Atheists Coming From Christianity Than Islam by wiegraf: 12:09pm On Jul 02, 2016 |
Double post |
Re: Reasons Why There Are More Atheists Coming From Christianity Than Islam by wiegraf: 12:15pm On Jul 02, 2016 |
Quite a few are in the closet, but yeah I would imagine there would be more converts from xtianity Obvious reasons already stated. Xtianity is generally more liberal being key. This is a good thing. Most regular 'xtians' don't worry about it. only you fundies care, so you can win your pissing contest against other Fundy groups, eg muslims In other words, you're just as bad as the muslims |
Re: Reasons Why There Are More Atheists Coming From Christianity Than Islam by Freiburger(m): 12:20pm On Jul 02, 2016 |
UyiIredia:In addition, christians are able to question their belief system without the risk of being disowned by friends and family members or even getting killed. |
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