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Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by HardMirror(m): 10:15am On Jul 03, 2016
PraiseDLord:
For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
1 Corinthians 1:18 KJV
http://bible.com/1/1co.1.18.KJV
What else were you expecting paul to say? I can also make claim that those that don't believe in the spaghetti monster are fools.
That's a perfect way of keeping people brainwashed. So you turn wisdom and common sense to foolishness. Saying god has hidden his ways from the wise.
So whenever you are confronted with valid questions that exposes the foolishness of your belief, you quickly say that it's god's will that the wise don't know his ways.
Hence you remain in your foolishness with pride.

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Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by HardMirror(m): 10:17am On Jul 03, 2016
Ranchhoddas:
I mean the differences in skin colour. Caucasians, Indians, Africans, Asians etc.
Get ready for disjointed explanations

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Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by babysmart(f): 11:00am On Jul 03, 2016
I really appreciate this thread. there's always room for learning cool

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Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by flamingREED(m): 11:27am On Jul 03, 2016
HardMirror:
The problem is we don't think, we just believe even before reading.

Before reading the bible you mind is already set to believe that what you are about to read is the word of God.

Truth is ALWAYS truth and will pass all scrutiny excellently

Note that the bible did not say God created extra water. The author must have thought that the sky must be filled with so much water that simply saying it rained for 40 days straight would mean the whole earth would be covered.


That is a whole one month and 10 days all around the world.

Very obvious this was written because the author experienced some days rain and his town got flooded then he must have imagined what 4days and 40 nights rain would cause. So he concluded it would cover all mountains
But there is simply not enough water to achieve this.

INFACT if all the icebergs melted and all water unleashed, geologists say it would only be 61meters above the current sea level.


So why not take a moment and think about this.

Was the bible really from God? With no lies? Can it survive scrutiny as all truth should?

Have you been deceived?

Next I will be talking about the animals

So, where did the water of today's earth come from?

From the moon or some natural/abstract interaction?

If Christians believe that God created water - whose origin you can't explain,
Then why do you think we'll feel awful to think that that same God flooded the earth with water?

The scripture records that the fountains of the deep were broken up: In other words, the water that submerged the entire earth didn't need to descend from the clouds at iron-shattering velocities, but simply both as rain and aquatic upsurge.

Nevertheless, if Christ could multiply five loaves and two fishes geometrically; what science can't can't simulate; then I think that Jehovah Jireh can submerge the whole earth with just a glass of water cool

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Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by flamingREED(m): 11:29am On Jul 03, 2016
HardMirror:
As proven above, there would be a need of 4.5 billion cubic kilometers of water, that is about 4,500,000,000,000,000,000 liters of water

QUESTION 2
where did this water come from?

Oh! The bible gave us the answer, so let's check the where God got all this water from.

Genesis 7:11-12 "11 In the six hundredth year of Noah’s life, on the seventeenth day of the second month—on that day all the springs of the great deep burst forth, and the floodgates of the heavens were opened. 12 And rain fell on the earth forty days and forty nights.

This is very very interesting lol. So from the earth springs and rain 4.5billion Cubic kilometers of water fell all within 40 days. Lol

Now good science students and mathematics savies will already see why this is ridiculous.



Above is the proportion of water to earth of the whole earth. (This information is from the united states geological website)
Yes 71% of the surface of the earth is covered by water it does not equal to 71% of the Volume of the earth.

It is just like buying bread that is wrapped in nylon. 100% of the bread is covered, But that nylon cover is ONLY about 2% of the volume of the bread. Got it?

In actual fact, the earth only has a total of 1.3billion cubic kilometers of water when water in the atmosphere, seas, oceans, rivers, lakes, ice-bergs etc are all added up. So where did 4.5 billion extra come from?

[b] what this reveals

This reveals that the story was fabricated by the inventors of the story. They must have observed the amount of water all around, looking at the ocean and mediterean sea and fantasizing that that volume of water must be so great it can cover all mountains.

Like I asked your friend:

We are just getting started... Stay tuned


So, where did the water of today's earth come from?

From the moon or some natural/abstract interaction?

If Christians believe that God created water - whose origin you can't explain,
Then why do you think we'll feel awful to think that that same God flooded the earth with water?

The scripture records that the fountains of the deep were broken up: In other words, the water that submerged the entire earth didn't need to descend from the clouds at iron-shattering velocities, but simply both as rain and aquatic upsurge.

Nevertheless, if Christ could multiply five loaves and two fishes geometrically; what science can't can't simulate; then I think that Jehovah Jireh can submerge the whole earth with just a glass of water cool
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by HardMirror(m): 11:32am On Jul 03, 2016
flamingREED:


So, where did the water of today's earth come from?

From the moon or some natural/abstract interaction?

If Christians believe that God created water - whose origin you can't explain,
Then why do you think we'll feel awful to think that that same God flooded the earth with water?

The scripture records that the fountains of the deep were broken up: In other words, the water that submerged the entire earth didn't need to descend from the clouds at iron-shattering velocities, but simply both as rain and aquatic upsurge.

Nevertheless, if Christ could multiply five loaves and two fishes geometrically; what science can't can't simulate; then I think that Jehovah Jireh can submerge the whole earth with just a glass of water cool
This is the best answer I have gotten so far. I kept laughing at the christians trying to twist science anmd bible into agreeing with the flood myth.
Thanks for being your humble self jare.

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Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by Image123(m): 4:57pm On Jul 04, 2016
Ranchhoddas:
Just so we are on the same page please give me your own definition of speciation because mine happens to involve ''once an ape or something along that line''.

Speciation is the evolutionary formation of new biological species. Context, remember someone mis-said "There were more animals and plants 5000years ago than now. Millions of animals and plants are already extinct." He ignored the evolutionary formation of new biological species for those 5000 years. You do accept that you were never born again, right?

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Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by Image123(m): 5:00pm On Jul 04, 2016
HardMirror:

This is the best answer I have gotten so far. I kept laughing at the christians trying to twist science anmd bible into agreeing with the flood myth.
Thanks for being your humble self jare.

Thank goodness, in other words, you believe that God did it miraculously? Saves you from all that wrong math.
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by Image123(m): 5:01pm On Jul 04, 2016
ValentineMary:

I agree with Hardmirror. U aint too bright. Read what u wrote again and if u think u made a point, then u don't deserve a brain.

The Bible no where gives or implies the age of the earth. This is where you should have stopped your post.



Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
Gen 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
Gen 1:3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
Gen 1:4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
Gen 1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

Which of the verses above talks about the age of the earth or its birth certificate?



You are the wrong one. The Bible says nothing about the age of the earth. Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
That beginning is not the beginning of Adam(the human race) described in the rest of the chapter. Any real scholar knows this, smh for your copy and paste. SELAH

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Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by ValentineMary(m): 5:13pm On Jul 04, 2016
Image123:


The Bible no where gives or implies the age of the earth. This is where you should have stopped your post.



Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
Gen 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
Gen 1:3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
Gen 1:4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
Gen 1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

Which of the verses above talks about the age of the earth or its birth certificate?



You are the wrong one. The Bible says nothing about the age of the earth. Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
That beginning is not the beginning of Adam(the human race) described in the rest of the chapter. Any real scholar knows this, smh for your copy and paste. SELAH
After breaking it down to u how the bible indirectly said it, u sound don't get. You have a brain use it.

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Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by Ranchhoddas: 5:15pm On Jul 04, 2016
Image123:


Speciation is the evolutionary formation of new biological species. Context, remember someone mis-said "There were more animals and plants 5000years ago than now. Millions of animals and plants are already extinct." He ignored the evolutionary formation of new biological species for those 5000 years. You do accept that you were never born again, right?
I see. So you are one of those people that have modified the bible to adapt to modern scientific realities. I'll take it as progress. You'll get there. Slowly but surely.

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Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by Image123(m): 5:22pm On Jul 04, 2016
Ranchhoddas:
I see. So you are one of those people that have modified the bible to adapt to modern scientific realities. I'll take it as progress. You'll get there. Slowly but surely.

You've got to be kidding me. The Bible nowhere talks against evolution in the context i described it. i have always believed in evolution in such a context, no adaptations though not wrong if anyone adapts to the truth. It's unfortunate you misunderstood and misunderstand the Bible.

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Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by Image123(m): 5:24pm On Jul 04, 2016
ValentineMary:

After breaking it down to u how the bible indirectly said it, u sound don't get. You have a brain use it.

Oh, so it INDIRECTLY siad it? You are waking up, i pray you will wake up. The Bible said no such thing, neither did it imply so. i stand by that and that was my initial position before you went literally hippo on me due to your misinformed research.

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Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by HardMirror(m): 5:27pm On Jul 04, 2016
Image123:


Thank goodness, in other words, you believe that God did it miraculously? Saves you from all that wrong math.
Smh
Indeed you aint that bright. You just lack capacity to reason.

I agree with him because he was able to show that the story does not have to make logical sense. It is all based on miracles. Correct mathematics does not explain miracles. Mathematics can't explain jesus feeding 5000 men with just 5 loaves of bread. so don't think you are making sense here and claiming my maths is wrong yet you want me to call it a miracle. The 2 don't go hand in hand.

So yes I will agree with anyone who gives a sincere miracle explanation and the fact that the story is silly and implausible to the intelligent and can only be believed by the foolishness of blind faith. Then you are on track. Anything else like many have you have tried proving the bible makes sense, only exposes your desperation cos you end up saying things the bible even never said.

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Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by HardMirror(m): 5:28pm On Jul 04, 2016
ValentineMary:

After breaking it down to u how the bible indirectly said it, u sound don't get. You have a brain use it.
Are you sure he has a brain?
Doubt it
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by ValentineMary(m): 5:28pm On Jul 04, 2016
Image123:


Oh, so it INDIRECTLY siad it? You are waking up, i pray you will wake up. The Bible said no such thing, neither did it imply so. i stand by that and that was my initial position before you went literally hippo on me due to your misinformed research.
Read what I wrote about genealogy again. I am honestly beginning to doubt u actually have a brain.

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Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by ValentineMary(m): 5:30pm On Jul 04, 2016
Image123:


Oh, so it INDIRECTLY siad it? You are waking up, i pray you will wake up. The Bible said no such thing, neither did it imply so. i stand by that and that was my initial position before you went literally hippo on me due to your misinformed research.
Or better still, prove to me that the earth is not 6,000 years using the bible.

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Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by ValentineMary(m): 5:31pm On Jul 04, 2016
HardMirror:
Are you sure he has a brain? Doubt it
I am honestly begining to doubt.
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by Ranchhoddas: 5:31pm On Jul 04, 2016
Image123:


You've got to be kidding me. The Bible nowhere talks against evolution in the context i described it. i have always believed in evolution in such a context, no adaptations though not wrong if anyone adapts to the truth. It's unfortunate you misunderstood and misunderstand the Bible.
How can you be a christian and accept evolution in any form? I thought God created all things in six days.

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Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by HardMirror(m): 5:34pm On Jul 04, 2016
ValentineMary:
I am honestly begining to doubt.
He is enjoying the attention he's getting grin
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by Ranchhoddas: 5:35pm On Jul 04, 2016
HardMirror:

Smh
Indeed you aint that bright. You just lack capacity to reason.

I agree with him because he was able to show that the story does not have to make logical sense. It is all based on miracles. Correct mathematics does not explain miracles. Mathematics can't explain jesus feeding 5000 men with just 5 loaves of bread. so don't think you are making sense here and claiming my maths is wrong yet you want me to call it a miracle. The 2 don't go hand in hand.

So yes I will agree with anyone who gives a sincere miracle explanation and the fact that the story is silly and implausible to the intelligent and can only be believed by the foolishness of blind faith. Then you are on track. Anything else like many have you have tried proving the bible makes sense, only exposes your desperation cos you end up saying things the bible even never said.
Exactly. Image123 is trying to get the best of both. It's either a miracle or not.

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Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by HardMirror(m): 5:41pm On Jul 04, 2016
Ranchhoddas:
Exactly. Image123 is trying to get the best of both. It's either a miracle or not.
I don't know how acknowledging the sincere man who came up with the miracle explanation translate to me admitting my maths is bad. Image 123 does not worth anyone's time.
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by Image123(m): 2:35pm On Jul 05, 2016
ValentineMary:

Read what I wrote about genealogy again. I am honestly beginning to doubt u actually have a brain.

What you or anyone else wrote about geneology has NOTHING to do with the age of the earth. The Bible no where ties the age of the earth to man's geneology. Read the Bible instead of hopelessly believing your copy and paste research. You have a Bible, don't you?
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by Image123(m): 2:38pm On Jul 05, 2016
ValentineMary:

Or better still, prove to me that the earth is not 6,000 years using the bible.

There simply is no such place or verse in the Bible, i have already stated that. There is nothing to prove in a false accusation. You made the false accusation, the onus is on you to prove the accusation true. The Bible says no such thing, you and others simply imagined it. Here is the text you gave again, it says nothing about any 6,000years or about the earth's age being related to man's age. Eat the humble pie, and come off your old/archaic assumptions and empty presumptions.

Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
Gen 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
Gen 1:3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
Gen 1:4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
Gen 1:5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by Image123(m): 2:41pm On Jul 05, 2016
Ranchhoddas:
How can you be a christian and accept evolution in any form? I thought God created all things in six days.

You thought? Well, your thought is wrong, no portion of the Bible says that. Also, the Bible does not say that christians should not accept evolution, did it? The miracle of evolution is itself what brought out the over 7billion humans we have today from a family of 8. What are you talking about again? You are ignoring your born again stories, na that one important pass oh. Were you ever born again?
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by Image123(m): 2:43pm On Jul 05, 2016
Ranchhoddas:
Exactly. Image123 is trying to get the best of both. It's either a miracle or not.

They are not mutually exclusive. God is the Creator of all things. He did it all, from rainfall to sunshine, to sunrise, to childbirth. They are all the works of His hands. Do you want me to quote Bible for you, or you will do the quotings?
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by Ranchhoddas: 2:46pm On Jul 05, 2016
Image123:


You thought? Well, your thought is wrong, no portion of the Bible says that. Also, the Bible does not say that christians should not accept evolution, did it? The miracle of evolution is itself what brought out the over 7billion humans we have today from a family of 8. What are you talking about again? You are ignoring your born again stories, na that one important pass oh. Were you ever born again?
Which born again stories? 8 to 7 billion in exactly how many years. How many years did it take for the Jewish family to propagate the diverse races that we see today.

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Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by Image123(m): 2:56pm On Jul 05, 2016
Ranchhoddas:
Which born again stories? 8 to 7 billion in exactly how many years. How many years did it take for the Jewish family to propagate the diverse races that we see today.

What Jewish family?
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by Ranchhoddas: 3:03pm On Jul 05, 2016
Image123:


What Jewish family?
Noah, Shem, Ham and Japheth are Hebrew names. Stop being disingenuous.

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Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by Ranchhoddas: 3:05pm On Jul 05, 2016
Image123:


What Jewish family?
Noah, Shem, Ham and Japheth are Hebrew names. Stop being disingenuous. And how many years ago did this flood take place?
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by Image123(m): 3:18pm On Jul 05, 2016
HardMirror:

Smh
Indeed you aint that bright. You just lack capacity to reason.

I agree with him because he was able to show that the story does not have to make logical sense. It is all based on miracles. Correct mathematics does not explain miracles. Mathematics can't explain jesus feeding 5000 men with just 5 loaves of bread. so don't think you are making sense here and claiming my maths is wrong yet you want me to call it a miracle. The 2 don't go hand in hand.

So yes I will agree with anyone who gives a sincere miracle explanation and the fact that the story is silly and implausible to the intelligent and can only be believed by the foolishness of blind faith. Then you are on track. Anything else like many have you have tried proving the bible makes sense, only exposes your desperation cos you end up saying things the bible even never said.
HardMirror:

I don't know how acknowledging the sincere man who came up with the miracle explanation translate to me admitting my maths is bad. Image 123 does not worth anyone's time.

Look at this fellow oh, smh for you. What then is the purpose of your thread, about the information guaranteed to make people with common sense throw their bibles away? You are saying the miraculous angle is what you have been waiting for all along? You do not know what you want/need evidently. i'll tell you what you need, JESUS. He is the only one that satisfies the longing soul, and He still says to come unto Him, all that are weary and laden with such madness as yours. He promises rest again. Were you not the same fellow supposedly Debunking the miracle angle less than a week ago? Suddenly, you have received revelation that the miracle angle explains it and is the sincere thing to do. Ranch, shey you dey see your boy? Take care of him well before something else oh.

Here again are some facts you should take cognisance of next time before going on an ignorant rant like these you did on this thread.
1. Remember this post and selah until you see light.

2. None of your ridiculous calculation is needed to understand the bible.

3. Paperbag/nylon covers material fine no matter the weight. It's the reason why we say "tear rubber", duh.

4. There are at least four science inclined thoughts that support possibility of such magnitude of flooding. You will do well to update your poor knowledge of things.(a) The Ice Age. (b) Precipitation and formation of most rocks. (c). The presence of fauna and flora fossils buried in rocks. (d). Formation of many Igneous rocks.

5. Gen 7:20 Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered.
Gen 6:15 And this is the fashion which thou shalt make it of: The length of the ark shall be three hundred cubits, the breadth of it fifty cubits, and the height of it thirty cubits.


Whatever measure they used to calculate cubit, which obviously is different from what we may use today, fifteen cubits was higher than the mountains, and the height of the ark was thirty cubits. So it was a very very very big ark.

6. Penguins are aquatic animals. They can survive well in water, they did not need to be in the ark.

7. Noah was NEVER asked to single handedly build the ark. No Bible portion states or implies or alludes to this preposterous and poor thinking process.

i've said the seven points previously and much more. Ruminate on these and don't misbehave again.
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by Image123(m): 3:20pm On Jul 05, 2016
Ranchhoddas:
Noah, Shem, Ham and Japheth are Hebrew names. Stop being disingenuous. And how many years ago did this flood take place?

Noah and his family were not jews. The flood took place during the time of Noah. Were you ever born again?

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