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Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by Ranchhoddas: 3:24pm On Jul 05, 2016 |
Image123:Yes I was. Or so I thought. I know I spoke in tongues at one point. What race where they or were they 'raceless', and more importantly how many years ago did the flood take place? |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by ValentineMary(m): 7:39pm On Jul 05, 2016 |
Image123:U theist can really be funny. U claim the genealogy in the bible is true but later say the data it provides regarding age is not true. I broke it down for u, and all u could do was quote ur creation story. For real bro? All I'm saying is if u claim what I said is wrong, prove me wrong using ur data. And pls stop quoting that creation story. I honestly made it clear that it was in nowhere stated 6,000 years but Adam genealogy to Abraham and then to us sums up to 6,000 years. But if u can't, u can quietly ignore. 2 Likes |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by ValentineMary(m): 7:46pm On Jul 05, 2016 |
Image123:It's a good thing u said that. So I can say u don't believe Adam is the first man and that the earth was made in 6 days. But if u are still a christian and u don't believe those, that's just a contradiction of the faith u proclaim. 2 Likes |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by Image123(m): 5:54am On Jul 06, 2016 |
Ranchhoddas: So did you experience the change of person that 2Corinthians 5v17 talked about at that time when you "became born again", or what made you think so like you said? i do not know what race they were but definitely not Hebrew. Even the Bible does not say that they were Jews. The Jew/Hebrew nation started from Abraham or more precisely Jacob/Israel's family. The flood took place during the time of Noah, that is what the Bible says. |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by Image123(m): 6:17am On Jul 06, 2016 |
ValentineMary: The geneology of man from Adam is not about the age of the earth. The Bible does not say anywhere that they are related, i have asked you several times to show biblical proof of such thinking, you have so far been unable. The only time you attempted, you quoted Genesis 1v1-5. Here is exactly what you said "Genesis 1 says that the earth was created on the first day of creation (Genesis 1:1–5 ). From there, we can begin to calculate the age of the earth." This is why i continued quoting the place so that you may read it as i would not be surprised you may have not read it but only copy and pasted some fake thoughts from some fake thinker. The passage said nothing about the earth being created on the first day of creation, your assumptions are wrong. You went on to say that the Bible indirectly said it. No, the Bible did not directly or indirectly say anything of such. You are the one who made that mistake, not the Bible. |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by Image123(m): 6:23am On Jul 06, 2016 |
ValentineMary: Adam is the first HUMAN being. He is definitely the first of our race. The Bible does not say that the earth was created in six days, i stand to be corrected. You are yet to show us where the Bible says that. Also, you obviously lack knowledge of what the christian faith is about. The christian faith is not about believing "Adam is the first man and that the earth was made in 6 days". The Christian faith is about believing in God through Jesus Christ, that He is and that He is a rewarder of those that diligently seek Him. Nobody went to Heaven or paradise for believing rubbish. |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by Ranchhoddas: 6:24am On Jul 06, 2016 |
Image123:I felt goose pimples if that's what you mean. Since you don't know their races, could you at least tell me how many years ago this flood happened? |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by Image123(m): 6:40am On Jul 06, 2016 |
Ranchhoddas: Goose pimples, that was the proof of your salvation? You are kidding right? i also felt goose pimples when i touched my gf's hands in primary school. Get serious jare.At least, you now agree that they were not Hebrews, right? The flood happened during Noah's time, that is what Jesus and the Bible said. Do you not believe it? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by Ranchhoddas: 6:54am On Jul 06, 2016 |
Image123:I need a figure. How many years ago? 1 Like |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by realmindz: 8:33am On Jul 06, 2016 |
Image123 beating around the bush like a bush rat. Adam and Eve populated the whole earth... Man's first home was garden of eden. But all of a sudden, the Egyptians, Babylonians, philistines and the rest of the world jst all of a sudden forgot their histories, could not just remember they came from Adam and Eve... They jst suddenly forgot that the garden of eden was their first home but needed the Jews to help them remember.... Even Yaweh all of a sudden jst had a people he called his people. The Egyptians, Babylonians, Philistines, Africans and the rest of the world suddenly could not remember their true God Yaweh and suddenly had their own gods several thousand of years back, and Yaweh was jealous of those gods... Soon people will realise Yaweh and his creation story were jst Jewish views just like every other culture had theirs 3 Likes |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by realmindz: 8:47am On Jul 06, 2016 |
Image123:Yeah Noah family was quite unique, a family the world has never had and would never have again... In Noah's family, we had a Chinese, an Indian, an Arab, a black, a white, a Korean....Jst name it, all the races of the world were among the family of Noah alone.. Praise Yaweh, it is a miracle. But more interesting that it was only the Jew that remembered that great world event that changed the world history. Every other races simply forgot and even forgot that Yaweh saved them from the flood. Then all the other races could not remember their ancestor was Noah... All the other races jst forgot their God was Yaweh but started having several other gods whom they worshipped... even Yaweh himself suddenly had a people he called "my people" 2 Likes |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by ValentineMary(m): 9:05am On Jul 06, 2016 |
Image123:I don die. O boy e don do abeg. Lolz 1 Like |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by ValentineMary(m): 9:12am On Jul 06, 2016 |
Image123:This is very funny. It's obvious now that u are being dishonest in ur argument. From saying Adam is the first man, u went ahead to say the earth was not created in 6 days according to the bible and now u are saying we can't use him as a yardstick to caluculate earth's age because the bible did not say genealogy was be used to estimate age of a specie. We are humans and we have brains for a reason bro. Make use of your own. 3 Likes |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by Image123(m): 9:40am On Jul 06, 2016 |
Ranchhoddas: i cannot give you the figure. i'm curious, what do you need the figures for? |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by Ranchhoddas: 9:42am On Jul 06, 2016 |
Image123:Why can't you. Are you not a bible scholar?I want a make a point with it. 1 Like |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by Image123(m): 9:43am On Jul 06, 2016 |
realmindz: HardMirror said it's a miracle, do you agree with him? Your ignorance is alarming though, the other atheists must be embarrassed. |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by Image123(m): 9:45am On Jul 06, 2016 |
Ranchhoddas: There's no point in it,that's why. If there was, the Bible would have made it clear. |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by Image123(m): 9:46am On Jul 06, 2016 |
ValentineMary:Don't die lazily, think instead. |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by Image123(m): 9:50am On Jul 06, 2016 |
ValentineMary: The Bible does not link Adam's geneology to the age of the EARTH. How is that so difficult for you to process. You've been unable to show any biblical evidence to the contrary. You'd rather type dead than think, smh. |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by realmindz: 9:57am On Jul 06, 2016 |
Image123:wat are u saying...do u even understand ursef 1 Like |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by ValentineMary(m): 9:58am On Jul 06, 2016 |
Image123:So Adam is not the first man and the world was not made in 6 days even though Genesis specifically said it was 6 days? I would leave this for your fellow theist to read. 3 Likes |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by HardMirror(m): 10:41am On Jul 06, 2016 |
Image123:Chai!!! Na wa for you o. Where did I say it is a miracle. I said it was better for christians to say it is a miracle than trying to twist science to fit into explaining the events of the bible. You are soo desperate. 1 Like |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by Image123(m): 10:42am On Jul 06, 2016 |
ValentineMary: Read what i said again. i hope your comprehension isn't this poor in academics? |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by Ranchhoddas: 10:42am On Jul 06, 2016 |
Image123:Suspicious isn't it? |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by Image123(m): 10:45am On Jul 06, 2016 |
HardMirror: Okay, you hear/read that realmindz? He says it is better to say it is a miracle. i'm sure you agree. |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by Image123(m): 10:47am On Jul 06, 2016 |
Ranchhoddas:Not at all, the Bible wasn't written as a physics or earth science textbook. |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by Ken4Christ: 10:57am On Jul 06, 2016 |
It is very funny how people reach conclusions concerning the authenticity of the Bible because of historical records that doesn't seem to agree with facts. How many of us can accurately narrate the history of our families to 20 generations? Some of us don't even know the name of our great great grandparents. Well, you will only ask those who have not had true life transformation in Jesus to throw away their Bibles. Christ is still changing lives. He is still doing miracles, opening blind eyes and giving hope to the hopeless. First of all, there was no tape recorder nor video recorder in the days of Noah. Record keeping was not also as easy as it is now. Even at that time, no one has discovered how the earth really looks like in terms of shape and topography. There were no airiel photographs. Not all the mountains have been discovered. So, if the writer or the record keeper never knew anything about Mt Everest, and all the mountains he knew were all covered within his vicinity, the record of the event will not be seen as a fairy tale. Also remember, there were no airplanes, no telescope. No one also had discovered the whole earth as at that time. America was only discovered a few hundred years ago. So, from the view of the observer at that time, every mountain was covered. The height of the water level was even stated, 15 cubits (Genesis 7:20). This is about 22.2 ft. And in meters about, 7 meters. Water level above sea level cannot be the same at all locations. When rain falls, some areas are completely flooded while others are not affected with flood. So, 7 meters depth in one location can be 100 meters depth in another location. Please, stop using Mt Everest as your reference point in the calculation of volumes of water above the earth. The recorder or narrator may not have known anything about Mount Everest. You may want to query that if the Bible is the word of God, it should be accurate and should take all facts into consideration. God did not write the Bible, but he revealed things to those who wrote them. The accuracy therefore can be marred to some extent by human limitations but without distortion of the message. This is how we should look at the Bible. Every thing in the Bible is truly stated but not everything is absolutely true. Human errors cannot be overlooked but it should not alter the truth it conveys. The Bible is the only reliable book that reveals the story of creation and the genealogy of the early days. No other books on earth give such details. If you throw away the Bible, you will be lost as to how the world actually began. Evolution theory is a guess work that can't answer several questions of life and cannot also be proven. Again, the present earth today was not what it was then. All the continents where together then. If you look at the world map, you will notice that you can actually fit them back together suggesting they were separated at a point in history. Science mentioned it. The Bible even mentioned when the separation took place. Genesis 10:25. Concerning how thousands of species of animals could all be preserved in one single ship, this is my take. Most of the animals survived the flood as they can also live in water. Noah doesn't have to create a pool for fish in the ship. He doesn't have to take crocodiles in there also. The Bible says that we know in part right now. I don't know everything and can't know everything. Most of the animals Noah had to preserve are those that can only survive on lands and birds that can't withstand rain. Only the Bible tells us the origin of rainbow. Only the Bible tells us the origin of Giants. Only the Bible reveals to us what will happen in the last days. And we are seeing them already. Can you refute the claims of Jesus resurrection? Archeologists have not been able to dig out the body of Jesus. He is alive. He rose from the dead. Without the Bible, this truth would have been buried. The Bible reveals to us the end of Satan's Kingdom. Successive Kingdom and reigns of kings were revealed to Daniel and it is happening just the way it was revealed. And you tell us to throw it away? Thousands of people have received healings by putting their faith in the word of God and you say they should throw the book that has given them life and hope away? I think you are the one ready to be thrown away to the pit of hell for allowing the devil to use you to weaken the faith of believers. Repent quickly before it is too late. Without Christ, your age is unknown. History is centered on him. Your birthday is with reference to Christ. It is either BC or AD. So wise up and embrace the most inspired book on earth. Though marred with negligible errors, the truth is not altered. Man sinned. Jesus is the Saviour. All who believes in him and live right have eternal life. All who reject him are doomed for destruction. 1 Like |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by Image123(m): 11:02am On Jul 06, 2016 |
HardMirror, oya oh, come and evangelose oh. |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by ValentineMary(m): 11:10am On Jul 06, 2016 |
Image123:I would leave it here for the readers to decide who's comprehension is poor from our discussion. Have a nice day. 2 Likes |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by Ranchhoddas: 11:19am On Jul 06, 2016 |
Image123:You are right. Those textbooks have something the Bible lacks-ACCURACY. 1 Like |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by Image123(m): 11:30am On Jul 06, 2016 |
ValentineMary: i'm already having a great day. You'd leave it here because you cannot show from the Bible the lies you told against the Bible, and because you misread and misunderstand the simple and clear statements i repeatedly made. |
Re: NOAH: This Information Will Make Smart People Throw Their Bibles Away! by Image123(m): 11:34am On Jul 06, 2016 |
Ranchhoddas: The Bible no doubt has something those textbooks can never have-LIFE. Tell me more about your thought born again experience. You know, like the OP did kinda. Were you a sinner then a Christian, that's what i meant by the 2Corinth5:17 mode. |
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