brocab:
Is their anyway dolphinheart you may shorten your pages-it is hard to keep up with all your demands, and everything you seem to rewrite, I have either answered them time and time over-do you actually read the answers?

sir, unlike you, I do prefer to quote the scriptures, it takes space and time, but I don't mind. so that anyone seeing my explanations or reading my views will know where I got them from. There is no need to rush a reply, read the post carefully, look at all the scriptures and questions asked , then reply. Mostimes , I try to number each point, you can follow that method too.

pls do stop lying sir, if you had answered a question , I will not repeat it.

I don't believe you are one person dolphinheart-is their a Mrs dolphinheart? All is their a Mr? You can't seem to keep up with the times, you write one thing on one page and deny it on the next page. Like the two headed God's you wrote and denied to John74.

1. even if there is a Mrs dolphinheart, we wunt still be one person! so your question is wrong!

2. PLS PLS PLS, SHOW WHERE I WRITE SOMETHING ON ONE PAGE AND DENY IT THE NEXT PAGE.
DID I WRITE " TWO HEADED GOD'S ? NO! STOP CHANGING AND TWISTING WHAT I WROTE!
you once claimed to have seen where I wrote the words under discussion, but even you refuse to post the full text of that post on these thread !

Which of course your long pages are starting to bore me, it seems You aren't happy with the scriptures you had found to prove Jesus and His Father are separable, nor are you happy about giving anybody time to answer, I don't see these as so called questions, I see them as demands-Jesus said: by their fruit you will know them; you are quick when replying back, angry and frustrated, throwing in a little abuse towards me and of course my fellow Christians.

1. Im not the one forcing you to reply
2. I'm not the one forcing to reply without taking your time
3. I'm not abusing you, I'm just stating a fact.
4. I'm not even quick replying you, sometimes It take days before I reply!
5. you dream and wish I'm angry and frustrated, but you are wrong, neither will I follow you in discussing emotional state of others!

Mr dolphinheart, is this the right way to act towards other believers? Sorry Mr dolphinheart-their is nothing you have shared with me-nor had proven any of the truth about Christ.

someone who is a follower of Christ will not resort to deliberate lies, false accusations, attempted defamation, refusal to quote and explain scriptures, deliberate changing of issues under discussion, refusal to answer questions , just to look right!
The scriptures I've quoted to you, which you have refused to read and share your opinion is enough to show the world that I indeed tried to share something with you or through you!

Always changing the scriptures every time you rewrite or write a new page-doesn't make a difference. You need to come up with a different approach about the scriptures, your way isn't working, your fleshly method of trying to be convincing, really isn't enough to lead us away from the truth.

1. always changing the scriptures?, pls show one example of where I did that?
2. I not even trying to convince you sir!
3. you claim to know the truth, yet you vehemently refuse to explain certain scriptures posted to you!

If you want me to keep up with the times-then it is best to shorten your pages, I haven't got all day trying to read your long and boring documentation. I don't need to write a long list of scriptures to prove to myself who God is to me.

take as many days as you want to read it if you want to, nobody is forcing you as to time and space!
If your view on who god is contradicts what the scriptures says, them their is something wrong with your view of who godo is. It is this contradiction you are afraid of , hence your refusal to answer certain questions or explain certain scriptures .

All the bible's-ESPECIALLY the NWT Bible states God and Jesus are One the same, both are not separable, both need each other.

continue lying and adding to the scriptures, no wonder you can't quote them.

But in your case you need the hole bible to prove God and Jesus are separable. Both are the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end-the first and the last. Both claim I was alive, and I was dead, and look I am alive forevermore. If this is classed as being separable, Then who's coming?

pls show us where God claimed to have died, then also show us where Jesus also claims to have died?

The seed theory just blew over you head. I was trying to give you an example, how the seeds work-but of course that was a waste of time, once again.

you could not answer simple questions about your seed theory , it could not stand scrutiny!

A)let's see if you can answer these questions(I know you will not, but will give you a chance to prove me wrong)
King James Version
1Jo 5:20And we know that the (1) Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know (2) him that is true, and we are in (3) him that is true, (4)even in (5) his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
now brocab, pls tell us:
1. who is "the son of God" in (1) above, coloured red
2. who is the "him" in (2) above, coloured blue
3. who is the "him" in (3) above , coloured red
4. what do you understand by the underlined "even I his son" in (4)
5. who is the "his " in 5 above , coloured blue.
PLS NOTE IF HE WILL ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS.

brocab, for the third time you have refused to explain these scripture:

Da 7:13“I kept watching in the visions of the night, and look! with the clouds of the heavens, someone like a son of man was coming; and he gained access to the Ancient of Days, and they brought him up close before that One.

Dolphinhearts Quote>pls show us where God claimed to have died, then also show us where Jesus also claims to have died?
From the beginning these same scriptures were brought forward {Revelation 1:17-18, Revelation 1:7-8} Whom you had refuse to believe these scriptures were about Jesus.
{Revelation 1:18} I Am he that lived and was dead, and behold I am alive forevermore. Amen.. and I have the keys of Hell and of death.
{1 John 5:20} And for the third time I have answered this verse-How many times would I have to answer this same scripture, Before you accept the answers from me?
Dolphinheart without the Spirit this verse will always be confusing for you, you need the Spirit of God to help you see scriptures come alive, Dolphinheart-I think Dead man walking, would be a perfect description, to give unto you.
Your claims for me not answering any of the scriptures is because I don't answer them the way you would like me to answer them.
How many times do I have to repeat myself, I don't see any of the scriptures the way you understand them to be-I see these scriptures in a much deeper channel-I don't see them the way you believe you understand them.
So trying to push me for the answers 'the way you would like me to answer them, then all I can say is, you are barking up the wrong tree.
Again I will repeat myself-I don't see the scriptures the way you 'see them. And I can't answer the scriptures the way you would like me to answer them?
Dolphinheart you are dealing with born again Spirit filled Christians. We don't just see these verses in the flesh only, we see them in the Spirit too.

dolphinheart:

sir, unlike you, I do prefer to quote the scriptures, it takes space and time, but I don't mind. so that anyone seeing my explanations or reading my views will know where I got them from. There is no need to rush a reply, read the post carefully, look at all the scriptures and questions asked , then reply. Mostimes , I try to number each point, you can follow that method too.

pls do stop lying sir, if you had answered a question , I will not repeat it.


1. even if there is a Mrs dolphinheart, we wunt still be one person! so your question is wrong!

2. PLS PLS PLS, SHOW WHERE I WRITE SOMETHING ON ONE PAGE AND DENY IT THE NEXT PAGE.
DID I WRITE " TWO HEADED GOD'S ? NO! STOP CHANGING AND TWISTING WHAT I WROTE!
you once claimed to have seen where I wrote the words under discussion, but even you refuse to post the full text of that post on these thread !


1. Im not the one forcing you to reply
2. I'm not the one forcing to reply without taking your time
3. I'm not abusing you, I'm just stating a fact.
4. I'm not even quick replying you, sometimes It take days before I reply!
5. you dream and wish I'm angry and frustrated, but you are wrong, neither will I follow you in discussing emotional state of others!


someone who is a follower of Christ will not resort to deliberate lies, false accusations, attempted defamation, refusal to quote and explain scriptures, deliberate changing of issues under discussion, refusal to answer questions , just to look right!
The scriptures I've quoted to you, which you have refused to read and share your opinion is enough to show the world that I indeed tried to share something with you or through you!


1. always changing the scriptures?, pls show one example of where I did that?
2. I not even trying to convince you sir!
3. you claim to know the truth, yet you vehemently refuse to explain certain scriptures posted to you!


take as many days as you want to read it if you want to, nobody is forcing you as to time and space!
If your view on who god is contradicts what the scriptures says, them their is something wrong with your view of who godo is. It is this contradiction you are afraid of , hence your refusal to answer certain questions or explain certain scriptures .


continue lying and adding to the scriptures, no wonder you can't quote them.


pls show us where God claimed to have died, then also show us where Jesus also claims to have died?


you could not answer simple questions about your seed theory , it could not stand scrutiny!

A)let's see if you can answer these questions(I know you will not, but will give you a chance to prove me wrong)
King James Version
1Jo 5:20And we know that the (1) Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know (2) him that is true, and we are in (3) him that is true, (4)even in (5) his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
now brocab, pls tell us:
1. who is "the son of God" in (1) above, coloured red
2. who is the "him" in (2) above, coloured blue
3. who is the "him" in (3) above , coloured red
4. what do you understand by the underlined "even I his son" in (4)
5. who is the "his " in 5 above , coloured blue.
PLS NOTE IF HE WILL ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS.

brocab, for the third time you have refused to explain these scripture:

Da 7:13“I kept watching in the visions of the night, and look! with the clouds of the heavens, someone like a son of man was coming; and he gained access to the Ancient of Days, and they brought him up close before that One.

brocab:
Dolphinhearts Quote>pls show us where God claimed to have died, then also show us where Jesus also claims to have died?
From the beginning these same scriptures were brought forward {Revelation 1:17-18, Revelation 1:7-8} Whom you had refuse to believe these scriptures were about Jesus.
{Revelation 1:18} I Am he that lived and was dead, and behold I am alive forevermore. Amen.. and I have the keys of Hell and of death.

1. you refused to quote all the verses
2. you refused to tell which verse is talking about jesus and which is talking about God !

now let's quote those verses :
Re 1:17,18 When I saw him, I fell as dead at his feet. And he laid his right hand on me and said: “Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last, 18and the living one, and I became dead, but look! I am living forever and ever, and I have the keys of death and of the Grave.
this verses are referring to jesus, other supporting scriptures also share this view!

The first and the last:
Ac 26:23that the Christ was to suffer and that as the first to be resurrected from the dead, he was going to proclaim light both to this people and to the nations.”
Col 1:18and he is the head of the body, the congregation. He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, so that he MIGHT BECOME the one who is first in all things;
Re 1:5and from Jesus Christ, “the Faithful Witness,” “the firstborn from the dead,” and “the Ruler of the kings of the earth.” To him who loves us and who set us free from our sins by means of his own blood—
Re 2:8“And to the angel of the congregation in Smyrʹna write: These are the things that he says, ‘the First and the Last,’ who BECAME DEAD and came to life again:

The living one , who died, and now living forever and ever!
1Co 15:45So it is written: “The first man Adam became a living person.” The last Adam BECAME a life-giving spirit.
1Pe 3:18For Christ died once for all time for sins, a righteous person for unrighteous ones, in order to lead you to God. He was put to death in the flesh but made alive in the spirit.
Ro 6:9For we know that Christ, now that he has been raised up from the dead, dies no more; death is no longer master over him

Having used the scriptures to identify that that rev 1:17,18 is talking about jesus, we should also take note of who resurrected jesus, since it has been established that he(jesus) died!
Ac 2:32 God resurrected this Jesus, and of this we are all witnesses.
Ac 3:15whereas you killed the Chief Agent of life. But God raised him up from the dead, of which fact we are witnesses.

brocab, did the scripture say jesus resurrected himself? no
the scripture said God resurrected jesus!.
If God had died when jesus died, god would not have able resurrect jesus.
notice jesus words when he died:
Lu 23:46And Jesus called out with a loud voice and said: “Father, into your hands I entrust my spirit.” After he said this, he expired.

Now let's move to rev 1: 7,8
[b] Re 1:7 Look! He is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, and those who pierced him; and all the tribes of the earth will beat themselves in grief because of him. Yes, Amen.
by the statement, "those who pieced him", we know these verse was talking about jesus, the preceding verse says he make humans priests to his God and father!

Mt 26:64Jesus said to him: “You yourself said it. But I say to you: From now on you will [/u]see the Son of man sitting at the right hand of power and coming on the clouds of heaven.”[/u]
Joh 19:34But one of the soldiers jabbed his side with a spear, and immediately blood and water came out.
Joh 19:37And again, a different scripture says: “They will look to the one whom they pierced.”

rev 1:8
Re 1:8“I am the Alʹpha and the O·meʹga,” says Jehovah God, “the One who is and who was and who is coming, the Almighty.”
this verse is is reference to jehovah, he is the one who is and who was and who is coming, rev 1:4,5 has already separated this person called jehovah from the person called jesus. verse 8 now concludes it by calling this one almighty !
Ex 6:3And I used to appear to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob as God Almighty, but with regard to my name Jehovah I did not make myself known to them.

Ge 17:1When Aʹbram was 99 years old, Jehovah appeared to Aʹbram and said to him: “I am God Almighty. Walk before me and prove yourself faultless.

We have looked at the verses and seen that
1. jesus died
2. jesus was resurrected by god
3. god did not die!

therefore you could not provide scripture where both died, you could not provide scripture where God died. your statement "Both claim I was alive, and I was dead, and look I am alive forevermore." is very wrong!

{1 John 5:20} And for the third time I have answered this verse-How many times would I have to answer this same scripture, Before you accept the answers from me?

sir, I did not ask you to answer the verse, this is the question again pls note, the question are specific and are numbered )

A)let's see if you can answer these questions(I know you will not, but will give you a chance to prove me wrong)
King James Version
1Jo 5:20And we know that the (1) Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know (2) him that is true, and we are in (3) him that is true, (4)even in (5) his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
now brocab, pls tell us:
1. who is "the son of God" in (1) above, coloured red
2. who is the "him" in (2) above, coloured blue
3. who is the "him" in (3) above , coloured red
4. what do you understand by the underlined "even I his son" in (4)
5. who is the "his " in 5 above , coloured blue.
PLS NOTE IF HE WILL ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS.

Dolphinheart without the Spirit this verse will always be confusing for you, you need the Spirit of God to help you see scriptures come alive, Dolphinheart-I think Dead man walking, would be a perfect description, to give unto you.

you once claimed to have the spirit in you, hope it can help you to give answers to the questions above( note again that it is numbered and not scattered)

Your claims for me not answering any of the scriptures is because I don't answer them the way you would like me to answer them.

you did not only refuse to answer , you refused to even mention them , talk less of quote them!.
I do not only say this, but provide proof of it. I'll take the recent (though there are plenty ) scripture you refuse to quote and share your understanding of :
Da 7:13“I kept watching in the visions of the night, and look! with the clouds of the heavens, someone like a son of man was coming; and he gained access to the Ancient of Days, and they brought him up close before that One.

How many times do I have to repeat myself, I don't see any of the scriptures the way you understand them to be-I see these scriptures in a much deeper channel-I don't see them the way you believe you understand them.
So trying to push me for the answers 'the way you would like me to answer them, then all I can say is, you are barking up the wrong tree.
Again I will repeat myself-I don't see the scriptures the way you 'see them. And I can't answer the scriptures the way you would like me to answer them?
Dolphinheart you are dealing with born again Spirit filled Christians. We don't just see these verses in the flesh only, we see them in the Spirit too.

have I told you to see it as I see it? No
have I asked you to explain them the way I want? no
all I've asked is for you to share that your understanding of certain scriptures, which you have vehemently refused to do! despite always claiming to be a born again spirit filled Christian.

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dolphinheart:


DID I WRITE " TWO HEADED GOD'S ? NO! STOP CHANGING AND TWISTING WHAT I WROTE!

Lie Lie dolphinheart

You are trying to make brocab out to be a liar, changing and twisting what you wrote,
when all he did was mistakenly add an "s " to God, which would make no difference if you said:
"God is a two headed god"
or
"God is a two headed god's". Both are wrong and both are blasphemy.

You are the one who has lied, not just once but all through this thread, and that is very clear.

You lied day after day denying that you called God a two headed god, and now you try to make bro out to be a liar, just to continue denying that you called God a two headed god.

Concerning God and the Word false jw dolphin said:

your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!.

I m calling on all Jehovah witnesses to repent now! You are not serving God believe in Jesus alone stop preaching heresies look for a bible believing church and worship there, for there is no other name that has been given to men under heaven wherein they are to be saved.

Yes and I agree, come and be Saved.

solite3:
I m calling on all Jehovah witnesses to repent now! You are not serving God believe in Jesus alone stop preaching heresies look for a bible believing church and worship there, for there is no other name that has been given to men under heaven wherein they are to be saved.

johnw74:


Lie Lie dolphinheart

You are trying to make brocab out to be a liar, changing and twisting what you wrote,
when all he did was mistakenly add an "s " to God, which would make no difference if you said:
"God is a two headed god"
or
"God is a two headed god's". Both are wrong and both are blasphemy.

Johnw74, I never said any of the above.
If you feel I'm lying pls post the full text of my post so everyone can see it!
and stop cutting part of my words off to give a different meaning.
you continue to post parts of my post, you continue to remove my words when quoting me,why?. simply because posting my full text will not only prove your allegations wrong, but it will also expose your doctrines as false.!
I've simply made one simple request , which is : POST THE FULL ,COMPLETE TEXT IN MY POST! AND EVERYONE SEE IT!

You are the one who has lied, not just once but all through this thread, and that is very clear.

You lied day after day denying that you called God a two headed god, and now you try to make bro out to be a liar, just to continue denying that you called God a two headed god.

Concerning God and the Word false jw dolphin said:

1. you could not post the full text cus it will expose you.
2. you could not post or show us your post where you responded to my explanation cus it does not exist!


did I call God a two headed god? no
did I say God is a two headed god? no
they could not post my full text , they only arrived at such words by cutting part of my statements off and refusing to post the full text cus it contains detailed explanation about what I said!

solite3:
I m calling on all Jehovah witnesses to repent now! You are not serving God believe in Jesus alone stop preaching heresies look for a bible believing church and worship there, for there is no other name that has been given to men under heaven wherein they are to be saved.

yes you are right, there is no other name giving to men under heaven wherein they are to be saved. you can find such words in the scriptures and Jehovahs witnesses believe it

Ac 4:12Furthermore, there is no salvation in anyone else, for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must get saved.”

they have gone ahead to understand that someone gave that name, who gave that name and why it is giving.

Joh 1:12However, to all who did receive him, he gave authority to become God’s children, because they were exercising faith in his name.
Joh 14:6Jesus said to him: “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
1Ti 2:5, 6 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Christ Jesus, 6who gave himself a corresponding ransom for all—this is what is to be witnessed to in its own due time.

look at what John said about God and Jesus :

1Jo 5:9If we accept the witness of men, the witness of God is greater. Because this is the witness God gives, the witness that he has given about his Son.
10The person putting his faith in the Son of God has the witness within himself. The person not having faith in God has made him a liar, because he has not put his faith in the witness given by God concerning his Son.
11And this is the witness, that God gave us everlasting life, and this life is in his Son.
12The one who has the Son has this life; the one who does not have the Son of God does not have this life.

contrary to false claims , Jehovahs witnesses believe these verses above, they know the source of evaluating life for mankind.

Jehovah has said that he sent the son to mankind, but he also tells us to listen to him, here are some of the words said by the son of God when he came and I hope you follow them :

first jehovah said:
[b]De 18:15Jehovah your God will raise up for you from among your brothers a prophet like me. You must listen to him.
Ac 3:22, 23In fact, Moses said: ‘Jehovah your God will raise up for you from among your brothers a prophet like me. You must listen to whatever he tells you. 23Indeed, anyone who does not listen to that Prophet will be completely destroyed from among the people.’
Heb 2:3how will we escape if we have neglected so great a salvation? For it began to be spoken through our Lord and was verified for us by those who heard him,
Mt 17:5While he was still speaking, look! a bright cloud overshadowed them, and look! a voice out of the cloud said: “This is my Son, the beloved, whom I have approved. Listen to him.”
Isa 42:1Look! My servant, whom I support! My chosen one, whom I have approved! I have put my spirit in him; He will bring justice to the nations.
Mt 3:17Look! Also, a voice from the heavens said: “This is my Son, the beloved, whom I have approved.”
2Pe 1:17, 18 For HE RECIEVED from God the Father honor and glory when words such as these were conveyed to him by the magnificent glory: “This is my Son, my beloved, whom I myself have approved.”18Yes, these words we heard coming from heaven while we were with him in the holy mountain.[/b]

Now what are some of the things the son of God told us and that we must listen to and follow:
[b]Joh 17:3This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ.
Joh 17:8 because I have given them the sayings that you gave me, and they have accepted them and have certainly come to know that I came as your representative, and they have believed that you sent me.


Joh 5:20For the Father has affection for the Son and shows him all the things he himself does, and he will show him works greater than these, so that you may marvel.
Joh 5:22For the Father judges no one at all, but he has entrusted all the judging to the Son,
Ac 10:42Also, he ordered us to preach to the people and to give a thorough witness that this is the one decreed by God to be judge of the living and the dead.
* read also Ac 17:31; 2Co 5:10 ; 2Ti 4:1



Joh 5:24Most truly I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes the One who sent me has everlasting life, and he does not come into judgment but has passed over from death to life.
Joh 5:26For just as the Father has life in himself, so he has GRANTED also to the Son to have life in himself.

Joh 3:16“ For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, so that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life.
Joh 6:40 For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who recognizes the Son and exercises faith in him should have everlasting life, and I will resurrect him on the last day.”[/color]

WHAT DID JESUS AND THE DISCIPLES SAY ABOUT OUR GOD ?
Joh 20:17Jesus said to her: “Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’”

WHAT DID HIS DISCIPLES SAY ABOUT OUR GOD?
1Co 11:3But I want you to know that the head of every man is the Christ; in turn, the head of a woman is the man; in turn, the head of the Christ is God.
Eph 1:17 that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give you a spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the accurate knowledge of him.
Col 1:3 We always thank God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, when we pray for you,

Jehovahs witnesses believe and try their best to follow the scriptures above, and not some man made derived and false doctrine that can only be supported when one twists the scriptures, totally ignore some, and use scripture verses that had been proven to be adulterated and corrected!

dolphinheart:
Johnw74, I never said any of the above.

Oh how you Lie Lie

dolphinheart:
If you feel I'm lying pls post the full text of my post so everyone can see it!

Feel you are lying, Ha ha, I know you are lying as you and all do, Lie Lie

dolphinheart:
and stop cutting part of my words off to give a different meaning.

Lie Lie, I haven't changed your quote in any way, and you were referring to God and the Word as a two headed god,
so I haven't given diffrent meaning at all

dolphinheart:
you continue to post parts of my post, you continue to remove my words when quoting me,why?. simply because posting my full text will not only prove your allegations wrong, but it will also expose your doctrines as false.!
I've simply made one simple request , which is : POST THE FULL ,COMPLETE TEXT IN MY POST! AND EVERYONE SEE IT!



1. you could not post the full text cus it will expose you.

Ha ha, Lie Lie, if there was anything in your post that would prove and expose that I misquoted you, you would post it,
you even slipped up and admitted in one of your recent posts, and now you are back to your usual lying,
you said concerning God and the Word "your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!."

dolphinheart:
2. you could not post or show us your post where you responded to my explanation cus it does not exist!

Lie Lie, I even posted a quote of my reply to your post, but you are so caught up in lies that it is all you can do

dolphinheart:
did I call God a two headed god? no
did I say God is a two headed god? no
they could not post my full text , they only arrived at such words by cutting part of my statements off and refusing to post the full text cus it contains detailed explanation about what I said!

Of course you called God a two headed god, you were referring to God and the Word when you said:
"your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!."

Lie Lie dolphinheart

dolphinheart:


Jehovahs witnesses believe and try their best to follow the scriptures above, and not some man made derived and false doctrine that can only be supported when one twists the scriptures, totally ignore some, and use scripture verses that had been proven to be adulterated and corrected!

@bold, Ha ha, false jw's doctrine is man made derived false doctrine - watchtower etc.
when false jw lie and accuse they are always talking about themselves

@underline, of course it is false jw's who twist the scriptures and ignore some,
and you don't correct adulterated scriptures, but you adulterate correct scriptures to suit your satanic doctrines.



Here is one example where the jw sect adulterate the scriptures,
they change: "the Word was God" to "the Word was a god" to support there satanic doctrines:


John 1:1, "The word was a god"

In [the] beginning the Word was, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god. The New World Translation

God was the word in Greek. This is one of the most common verses of contention between the Jehovah's Witnesses and Christians. Their false assumption is that Jesus is not God in flesh but Michael the archangel who became a man. Therefore, since they deny that Jesus is divine, they have altered the Bible in John 1:1 so that Jesus is not divine in nature. The New World Translation has added the word "a" to the verse so it says, " . . . and the Word was a god." The correct translation for this verse is "In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God." This is how it is rendered in the NASB, NIV, KJV, NKJV, ASV, RSV, etc.

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Lie Lie dolphinheart

According to scripture when you lie you are just being natural

1Co_2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

2Pe_2:12 But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;

Jud_1:10 But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.

Joh_8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

when he speaks a lie he is speaking of his own, of his self, he is speaking naturally,
ye are of your father, there is no truth in him, and it shows in his children.

By their fruits you will know them.

johnw74:


Oh how you Lie Lie

it is extablished that I never said any of the above. I never said "God is a two headed god"
or "God is a two headed god's".
The above words can only be supported if :
1. parts of My sentence is cut off/ removed
2. The whole text which contains some explanation is cut off or removed.

hence they will refuse to post my full text, but will prefer to explain in their own way, my own words and cut off my own explanations when quoting my own words.
several times I've asked for them to post my full text on these thread , but they refused.

Feel you are lying, Ha ha, I know you are lying as you and all do, Lie Lie

okay , If you feel know I'm lying pls post the full text of my post so everyone can see it!

Lie Lie, I haven't changed your quote in any way, and you were referring to God and the Word as a two headed god,
so I haven't given diffrent meaning at all

1. you have changed my sentence by cutting off part of the words in that sentence
2. you have removed my explanation when quoting that post and have refused to quote the full text.
3. I was not referring to god and the word as a two headed god!, what I was referring to is presented 7th that thread, but because it will expose you, you vehemently refused to quote the full texts, preferring to selects words that will suit your aim. If you really want the truth to be revealed, present the full text so that everyone will examine it and come to their own conclusions.
4. you have tried desperately to give a different meaning to what I said , there are explanations, scriptures , views given by me in that thread , but you have failed to present them cus it will falsely your accusations.

Ha ha, Lie Lie, if there was anything in your post that would prove and expose that I misquoted you, you would post it,
you even slipped up and admitted in one of your recent posts, and now you are back to your usual lying,
you said concerning God and the Word "your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!."

1. It is you that is quoting part of my post after cutting of most words there , it is you that is cutting off parts of my sentence and adding your own explanation to my words.
I've asked you only one thing: pls post the full text of my post that you are quoting for all to see!
2. pls post that post that I made an admission , pls post the full text for all to see.
3. did i say concerning God and the Word "your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!."? noooooo!. pls stop giving your own meaning to my words while deliberately omitting my own explanations. cus you know your meanings wunt stand if you post my full texts in those thread, you have thus refused to do so and prefer to cut it off when quoting the post.

Lie Lie, I even posted a quote of my reply to your post, but you are so caught up in lies that it is all you can do

pls prove me a liar, pls just show everyone reading this thread where you
1. posted a quote of your reply to my explanation.
2. responded to my explanation.
3. pls post those quotes of yours again and prove to everyone that you indeed responded to my explanation!

Of course you called God a two headed god, you were referring to God and the Word when you said:
"your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!."

Lie Lie dolphinheart

did I call god a two headed god? no
was I referring to god and the word? no
he knows this , hence he could not provide my full texts

johnw74:


@bold, Ha ha, false jw's doctrine is man made derived false doctrine - watchtower etc.
when false jw lie and accuse they are always talking about themselves

@underline, of course it is false jw's who twist the scriptures and ignore some,
and you don't correct adulterated scriptures, but you adulterate correct scriptures to suit your satanic doctrines.



Here is one example where the jw sect adulterate the scriptures,
they change: "the Word was God" to "the Word was a god" to support there satanic doctrines:


John 1:1, "The word was a god"

In [the] beginning the Word was, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god. The New World Translation

God was the word in Greek. This is one of the most common verses of contention between the Jehovah's Witnesses and Christians. Their false assumption is that Jesus is not God in flesh but Michael the archangel who became a man. Therefore, since they deny that Jesus is divine, they have altered the Bible in John 1:1 so that Jesus is not divine in nature. The New World Translation has added the word "a" to the verse so it says, " . . . and the Word was a god." The correct translation for this verse is "In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God." This is how it is rendered in the NASB, NIV, KJV, NKJV, ASV, RSV, etc.

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pls, I beg you, don't cut parts of my posts off, expecially the parts that contain scriptures. If you feel you don't want or can't respond to the post and the scriptures given, why don't you just leave the post alone!

you remember my last post to you on John 1:1, why don't you go there and respond to the points given!

dolphinheart:


pls, I beg you, don't cut parts of my posts off, expecially the parts that contain scriptures. If you feel you don't want or can't respond to the post and the scriptures given, why don't you just leave the post alone!

you remember my last post to you on John 1:1, why don't you go there and respond to the points given!

Phony, I don't quote lengthy false doctrine
I just quote the part I want to respond to
get used to it.

dolphinheart:

it is extablished that I never said any of the above. I never said "God is a two headed god"
or "God is a two headed god's".
The above words can only be supported if :
1. parts of My sentence is cut off/ removed
2. The whole text which contains some explanation is cut off or removed.

hence they will refuse to post my full text, but will prefer to explain in their own way, my own words and cut off my own explanations when quoting my own words.
several times I've asked for them to post my full text on these thread , but they refused.


okay , If you feel know I'm lying pls post the full text of my post so everyone can see it!


1. you have changed my sentence by cutting off part of the words in that sentence
2. you have removed my explanation when quoting that post and have refused to quote the full text.
3. I was not referring to god and the word as a two headed god!, what I was referring to is presented 7th that thread, but because it will expose you, you vehemently refused to quote the full texts, preferring to selects words that will suit your aim. If you really want the truth to be revealed, present the full text so that everyone will examine it and come to their own conclusions.
4. you have tried desperately to give a different meaning to what I said , there are explanations, scriptures , views given by me in that thread , but you have failed to present them cus it will falsely your accusations.


1. It is you that is quoting part of my post after cutting of most words there , it is you that is cutting off parts of my sentence and adding your own explanation to my words.
I've asked you only one thing: pls post the full text of my post that you are quoting for all to see!
2. pls post that post that I made an admission , pls post the full text for all to see.
3. did i say concerning God and the Word "your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!."? noooooo!. pls stop giving your own meaning to my words while deliberately omitting my own explanations. cus you know your meanings wunt stand if you post my full texts in those thread, you have thus refused to do so and prefer to cut it off when quoting the post.




pls prove me a liar, pls just show everyone reading this thread where you
1. posted a quote of your reply to my explanation.
2. responded to my explanation.
3. pls post those quotes of yours again and prove to everyone that you indeed responded to my explanation!




did I call god a two headed god? no
was I referring to god and the word? no
he knows this , hence he could not provide my full texts

lie lie dolphinheart

All you can do is repeat the same lies over and over again, because those lies are all you have, that's your nature as per John 8:44

But this time you have said you were not referring to God and the word in your quote:

your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!.

So at least you are now admitting again that you said the quote that I have been posting for days,
but you now lie again of course, and say you were not referring to God and the Word.

You do know that Jesus is the Word, right?
Here is your full sentence that you asked for:

it has been established that God and Jesus are two different persons, there if you make Jesus to be that same God, then your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!.

You say "it has been established that God and Jesus are two different persons" duh that has always been the case that God (Father) and Jesus (Son-the Word) is two persons, but not two diffrent gods though as false jw believe, a Almight God and a mighty God, just one God,

then you say "there if you make Jesus to be that same God", meaning if Jesus and God is God as per John 1:1

"then your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!."

You called God and the Word a two headed god, and all your twisting of what you said and what you meant is just more lie lie lies, your sentence is clear but truth is far from you.

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Two persons there, one God, any scripture that says it diffrent is a corrupted-changed text.

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johnw74:


Phony, I don't quote lengthy false doctrine
I just quote the part I want to respond to
get used to it.

what about those scriptures posted, are they false doctrines.
For a matter of fact, you cannot even mention ONE FALSE DOCTRINE in the parts you cut off!
pls plus pls, I'm begging you one more time, if you want to quote my post, don't remove, cut, omit or replace my words!
nothing stops you from responding to the part you want to respond to while leaving my post the way it is!
Leaving my post the way it is without adulteration when quoting it does not affect your response.
leaving post the way they are when responding shows sincerity, that one is not trying to hide anything, that one can fully respond to the issues at hand.
It also helps anyone reading the thread to fully understand what is going on and a cess things themselves, being giving full info without deliberate modifications.
Sir I wunt get used to bad traits!

johnw74:


lie lie dolphinheart

All you can do is repeat the same lies over and over again, because those lies are all you have, that's your nature as per John 8:44

But this time you have said you were not referring to God and the word in your quote:

1. you could not give example of one of those lies
2. you could not give example of one of those lies without modifying my words
3. you could not give example of one of those lies without trying to explain my own words and cutting off my own explanations( explanations you could not respond to)

everyone pls read what he said I said again :
" your god is two persons in one god!, a two headed god!"

can you see it is different from what I'm being accused of !
Once again I've shown with proof and it is established that I never said "God is a two headed god"
or "God is a two headed god's".

The above words can only be supported if :
1. parts of My sentence is cut off/ removed
2. The whole text which contains some explanation is cut off or removed.

So at least you are now admitting again that you said the quote that I have been posting for days,
but you now lie again of course, and say you were not referring to God and the Word.

At no time have I ever denied my own words, as long as it's not modified.
EVERY ONE , PLS LET US LOOK AT HIS OWN WORDS AND ACCUSATIONS( notice that Im providing proof by listing the time, page, thread and date, anyone can go there to Check it!)

on June 29, 2:49 am , page 101 of these thread, Johnw74 accused me of saying:
Of course the same Lie Lies all over again from phony dolphinheart, at least now he is admitting that he said:
god is two persons in one!, a two headed god!.

On that same post he also said this :
where blaspheming dolphinheart said:
god is two persons in one!, a two headed god!.

for you to know how far back this false accusation had been, pls look at his post on may 26 , 1:37 am , page 64 of these thread.
In that post he said :
"dolphinheart said that God and the word" is a two headed god"

PLEASE EVERYONE , CAN YOU SEE THAT HIS ACCUSATIONS OR WHAT HE IS CLAIMING I SAID IS DIFFERENT FROM WHAT I ACTUALLY SAID!

since that time, I've been asking Johnw74 to
1. direct us to the post where my statements where made and
2. post the full text of that post for all to see.

Apart from the fact that he could not accede to this request cus of its implications, he had known months ago about what I really meant(cus he must have read the full text of that post), and from his own words months earlier :

(statement made 11:34 pm, may 26 on these thread by johnw74)
and now dolphinheart says he didn't call God and the Word "a two headed god"

so in summary, Johnw74 has not been able to show the post or my words where I said the words he is accusing me of, he has tried to :
1. modify his accusations
2. cut parts of my own words off to suit his aim
3. add words to my own sentence to suit his aim
4. refused to post the text that contains my explanation
5. trying desperately to give his own false explanations to my own words while deleting my own words so that everyone cannot examine them.
6. and most importantly, he has up till now refused to direct us to the post where he responded to my explanation of the scriptures he mentioned!

You do know that Jesus is the Word, right?

yes I know, do you know why he is called the word?

Here is your full sentence that you asked for:


You say "it has been established that God and Jesus are two different persons" duh that has always been the case that God (Father) and Jesus (Son-the Word) is two persons, but not two diffrent gods though as false jw believe, a Almight God and a mighty God, just one God,

then you say "there if you make Jesus to be that same God", meaning if Jesus and God is God as per John 1:1

" your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!."

You called God and the Word a two headed god, and all your twisting of what you said and what you meant is just more lie lie lies, your sentence is clear but truth is far from you.

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Two persons there, one God, any scripture that says it diffrent is a corrupted-changed text.

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sir , being dubious wunt help you, my request is simple , I Did not ask you to post full sentences, neither did I ask you to post some sentences, I asked you to post the full text of that post for all to see, so far all you are doing is posting snippets of that post , and refusing to post the full text.
do I agree with you as you are trying to claim again that Jesus is same god as the father? no!
did I give reasons supported with proof why I do not agree with you? Yes
could you counter the scriptures quoted and explanation's giving with reasonable explanations? no
even in that thread, a lot of people asked you why you could not respond to questions asked about your beliefs.

SO JOHNW74, WHY ARE YOU STILL DESPERATE TO READ A DIFFERENT MEANING TO MY WORDS WHEN MY POST (WHICH YOU STILL REFUSE TO POST ITS FULL CONTENT)CONTAINS THE MEANING OF WHAT I SAID.
The answer is quite simple to deduce, your accusations can only seem to find support if you can find an alternate meaning to my words while refusing to post my own explanations.

brocab, dId you notice what he said about Jesus and the father? not being same person?

In response to John 1:1 , pls read my post on that same thread below:

[b]"to those who read this thread.
I've said time and time again that those who believe that Jesus is almighty God will never explain the relationship between Jesus and the father to you. They know Jesus is not the same person as the father yet they endeavor to merge the two of them together.
jehovah had said he alone is the Almighty God and no one else except him.
Jesus has said that only the father is the only true God, but some will prefer to force Jesus to assume that position too.
Jesus has shown us that the father is his God and our God , but some will want to another person as our God.
Jesus has always shown subjection to the father, but some no gree, they want Jesus to take up equality with the father.
Jesus has been exalted to sit beside our God who is the most high, but some will want Jesus to sit where the most high God is sitting.
God gave Jesus the Revelation, but some will prefer that the revelation came from Jesus, cus they call him almighty God.
pls notice, you would or will ask these people about their beliefs, but they will not be able to explain to you, they will not be able to explain how the word can be with God and still be that same God, how the word can be God and still have a beginning. more importantly, they will not be able to answer or explain or use any of the numerous scriptures I've quoted so far on these thread.
They want you to believe without details, but I encourage you to ask questions, the answers will help in your quest for knowledge and search for the truth.
ask them:
does Jesus have a god?
is he the same person as this God?
is he equal to his God?
or is he subjected to his God?
who gave Jesus authority, did he give himself or was given?
did Jesus ever claim to be almighty God?
who anointed Jesus?
who is that person to Jesus?
when Jesus was is the presence of God, was he the same person as the God he was in presence of?
who sent Jesus, was the person who sent Jesus superior to Jesus?
the answers to these questions and more supported by scripture verses, will help those who want to know the truth, know it.

John 1:1
14th century - Wycliffe's Bible (from the 4th-century Latin Vulgate ) reads: "In the beginning was the word, and the word was at God, and God was the word.
1808 “and the Word was a god” - Thomas Belsham The New Testament, in An Improved Version, Upon the Basis of Archbishop Newcome ’s New Translation: With a Corrected Text , London.
1822 "and the Word was a god." - The New Testament in Greek and English (A. Kneeland, 1822.);
1829 "and the Word was a god." - The Monotessaron; or, The Gospel History According to the Four Evangelists (J. S. Thompson, 1829);
1863 "and the Word was a god." - A Literal Translation Of The New Testament (Herman Heinfetter [Pseudonym of Frederick Parker], 1863);
1864 “the LOGOS was God, This was in the Beginning with God” A New Emphatic Version (right hand column)
1864 “and a god was the Word” (left hand column interlinear reading) The Emphatic Diaglott by Benjamin Wilson , New York and London.
1867 “In the beginning was the gospel preached through the Son. And the gospel was the word, and the word was with the Son, and the Son was with God, and the Son was of God” - The Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible .
1879 "and the Word was a god." - Das Evangelium nach Johannes (J. Becker, 1979);
1885 "and the Word was a god." - Concise Commentary On The Holy Bible ( R. Young , 1885);
1911 "and the Word was a god." - The Coptic Version of the N.T. (G. W. Horner, 1911);
1935 “and the Word was divine” - The Bible — An American Translation, by John M. P. Smith and Edgar J. Goodspeed, Chicago.
1955 “so the Word was divine” - The Authentic New Testament, by Hugh J. Schonfield , Aberdeen.
1956 The Wuest Expanded Translation reads: “In the beginning the Word was existing. And the Word was in fellowship with God the Father. And the Word was as to His essence absolute deity”
1958 "and the Word was a god." - The New Testament of Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Anointed" (J. L. Tomanec, 1958);
1962, 1979 "'the word was God.' Or, more literally, 'God was the word.'" The Four Gospels and the Revelation (R. Lattimore, 1979)
1966, 2001 The Good News Bible reads: "...and he was the same as God."
1970, 1989 The Revised English Bible reads: "...and what God was, the Word was."
1975 " and a god (or, of a divine kind) was the Word" Das Evangelium nach Johnnes, by Siegfried Schulz, Göttingen, Germany
1975 "and the Word was a god." - Das Evangelium nach Johannes (S. Schulz, 1975);
1978 “and godlike sort was the Logos” - Das Evangelium nach Johannes, by Johannes Schneider, Berlin.
1993 The Word was first, the Word present to God, God present to the Word. The Word was God, in readiness for God from day one. - The Message, by Eugene H. Peterson.
one thing is sure , the apostles told us who our God is , and they recorded it, so that we can be protected from man made doctrines. and as christians we should follow what the scriptures says.
King James Version
Eph 4:6One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
King James Version
1Co 8:5For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)
1Co 8:6But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
King James Version
1Co 11:3But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God
do you know and accept the God is the head of christ?
Surely if you accept, you would also accept when the apostles told us who that God is
King James Version
Eph 1:17That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him
Col 1:3We always thank God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, when we pray for you,God was the word.[/b]

lie lie dolphinheart

I'm not interisted in your false doctrines, in your word who is "a god"

in your two god's, who one is an almighty god, and the other is a mighty god
kindergarten children know those names Almighty God and Mighty God refer to the one true God.

no wonder you call God and the Word "a two headed god" satan, through your elders is your teacher.

To all of false jw dolphinhearts above confusion and continued and repeated twisting of words which is lies,
and to the lengthy posts designed to get away from the simple matter at hand, and that is that false jw dolphinheart called God and the Word "a two headed god".

lie lie is playing on words, which is lying, he uses every means of lying known,
he said he didn't say God and the Word is a two headed god, while using words that mean the same thing,
it's just another way of lying,
so lets use his exact words.


The opening post was about John 1:1, and God and the Word, and the Word being God

You lie lie dolphinheart said:
"it has been established that God and Jesus are two different persons, there if you make Jesus to be that same God, then your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!."

You are talking off "God and Jesus",

and you said: "if you make Jesus to be that same God"

as John 1:1 makes Jesus to be that same God, and as the opening post is about

"then your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!."



Of course it's very clear to all except those entrenched in lies, that you were referring to God and the Word as "a two headed god", but twist your words some more lie lie, and tell me who you are calling "a two headed god" if not the Word being that same God, if not Jesus being that same God.

Who was you referring to as "a two headed god" if not God and the Word?

Truth doesn't require a long and evasive post,
just a honest answer, like:

I was referring to "God and the Word" being a two headed God
or
I was referring to "Tom and Jerry" being a two headed god.

johnw74:
To all false jw dolphinhearts above confusion and continued and repeated twisting of words which is lies,
and to the lengthy posts designed to get away from the simple matter at hand, and that is that false jw dolphinheart called God and the Word "a two headed god".

lie lie is playing on words, which is lying, he uses every means of lying known,
he said he didn't say God and the Word is a two headed god, while using words that mean the same thing,
it's just another way of lying,
so lets use his exact words.


The opening post was about John 1:1, and God and the Word, and the Word being God

You lie lie dolphinheart said:
"it has been established that God and Jesus are two different persons, there if you make Jesus to be that same God, then your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!."

You are talking off "God and Jesus",

and you said: "if you make Jesus to be that same God"

as John 1:1 makes Jesus to be that same God, and as the opening post is about

"then your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!."



Of course it's very clear to all except those entrenched in lies, that you were referring to God and the Word as "a two headed god", but twist your words some more lie lie, and tell me who you are calling "a two headed god" if not the Word being that same God, if not Jesus being that same God.

Who was you referring to as "a two headed god" if not God and the Word?

Truth doesn't require a long and evasive post,
just a honest answer, like:

I was referring to "God and the Word" being a two headed God
or
I was referring to "Tom and Jerry" being a two headed god.

dust off your bible and read, John 1:1 did not make Jesus to be that same God . what do u think about this statement " the Word was WITH God" ? does that not distinguish them

so also john 1:2 , both are clearly distinguished from each other.

CAPTIVATOR:


dust off your bible and read,

and I say to you: get a Bible and read, and throw away your corrupted writings to where they belongs.

CAPTIVATOR:


John 1:1 did not make Jesus to be that same God .

If you believed the Bible you would know that John 1:1 does make Jesus to be the same God, there is only one true God, and God and the word are said to be God. There are not two gods, a almighty god and a mighty god, with one of them being "an angel".
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
There you have it Jesus is the same God, not "a god' or "an Angel", but God.

CAPTIVATOR:


what do u think about this statement " the Word was WITH God" ? does that not distinguish them

The Word was with God, shows that the Word and God are two persons, and children could tell you that the Father and the Son are two persons.

CAPTIVATOR:


so also john 1:2 , both are clearly distinguished from each other.

Yes John 1:2 also shows them to be two persons
Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.

duh, your confusion comes from believing your elders over the Bible,
and from loving lies.

johnw74:
lie lie dolphinheart

I'm not interisted in your false doctrines, in your word who is "a god"

in your two god's, who one is an almighty god, and the other is a mighty god
kindergarten children know those names Almighty God and Mighty God refer to the one true God.

no wonder you call God and the Word "a two headed god" satan, through your elders is your teacher.

well , I hope everyone can now see that the accusations layed against me is false, and rantings will not make it true!
as long as he could not post the full text of that post for all to see and come to their own conclusion, his words would be viewed as another desperate attempt to find fault in anyway possible.

johnw74:
To all of false jw dolphinhearts above confusion and continued and repeated twisting of words which is lies,
and to the lengthy posts designed to get away from the simple matter at hand, and that is that false jw dolphinheart called God and the Word "a two headed god".

I've proven beyond reasonable doubt that I did not say "a two headed god" , the word "a two headed god" can only come about if my sentences are modified, if words where deliberately removed so that it would mean something else other than its intended meaning. notice again, for months now, he could not provide the full text ofrom that post , yet he could go to that post every time to cut parts of it off and post the modified version here!
he is desperate to find fault, but he can only do so by adulteration my words and adding false understanding to my words
Did I call god and the word a two headed god ? no , this fact he has known since May !
he has not been able to produce where I said "god and the word is a two headed god"

lie lie is playing on words, which is lying, he uses every means of lying known,
he said he didn't say God and the Word is a two headed god, while using words that mean the same thing,
it's just another way of lying,
so lets use his exact words.

The opening post was about John 1:1, and God and the Word, and the Word being God

You lie lie dolphinheart said:
"it has been established that God and Jesus are two different persons, there if you make Jesus to be that same God, then your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!."

You are talking off "God and Jesus",

and you said: "if you make Jesus to be that same God"

as John 1:1 makes Jesus to be that same God, and as the opening post is about

"then your God is two persons in one!, a two headed God!."

you keep trying to drag my words into yours, must my views comform to the opening post? no!, did I refute the opening post? Yes
why can't you post the full text of my posts, ? WHYYYYYYY!

was I talking about God and jesus when I told you about your god ? no ,remember the part you are desperately trying to omit which talked about equality .
You just said we should look at my own exact words , but the bolded above are not from me, they are words added at the beginning and middle of my words to try and give my own words a different direction and meaning. This you do while refusing to post the full text of what I posted! The tactic will not work johnw74, you accusation could not stand unless you try to give my words a different explanation from the one given by me!

Of course it's very clear to all except those entrenched in lies, that you were referring to God and the Word as "a two headed god", but twist your words some more lie lie, and tell me who you are calling "a two headed god" if not the Word being that same God, if not Jesus being that same God.

I will tell you this once you retract your false accusation, this is what you should have done first before accusing me falsely and before altering, omitING and adding to my words.

Who was you referring to as "a two headed god" if not God and the Word?

Truth doesn't require a long and evasive post,
just a honest answer, like:

I was referring to "God and the Word" being a two headed God
or
I was referring to "Tom and Jerry" being a two headed god.

even a near blind person can see what I wrote, maybe that why you still refused to post the full text!

johnw74:


and I say to you: get a Bible and read, and throw away your corrupted writings to where they belongs.



If you believed the Bible you would know that John 1:1 does make Jesus to be the same God, there is only one true God, and God and the word are said to be God. There are not two gods, a almighty god and a mighty god, with one of them being "an angel".
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
There you have it Jesus is the same God, not "a god' or "an Angel", but God.

okay, who is the only one true God ? @ underlined. this is enough to expose you

The Word was with God, shows that the Word and God are two persons, and children could tell you that the Father and the Son are two persons.



Yes John 1:2 also shows them to be two persons
Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.

duh, your confusion comes from believing your elders over the Bible,
and from loving lies.

you just prove my point, two persons cannot be the same God. this is more evident from the truth that One is the God of another ( the Father is the God of Jesus ) , this won't happen if both are same God
. get that into your head!

dolphinheart:


yes you are right, there is no other name giving to men under heaven wherein they are to be saved. you can find such words in the scriptures and Jehovahs witnesses believe it

Ac 4:12Furthermore, there is no salvation in anyone else, for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must get saved.”

[s]they have gone ahead to understand that someone gave that name, who gave that name and why it is giving.[/s]

Joh 1:12However, to all who did receive him, he gave authority to become God’s children, because they were exercising faith in his name.
Joh 14:6Jesus said to him: “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
1Ti 2:5, 6 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Christ Jesus, 6who gave himself a corresponding ransom for all—this is what is to be witnessed to in its own due time.

look at what John said about God and Jesus :

1Jo 5:9If we accept the witness of men, the witness of God is greater. Because this is the witness God gives, the witness that he has given about his Son.
10The person putting his faith in the Son of God has the witness within himself. The person not having faith in God has made him a liar, because he has not put his faith in the witness given by God concerning his Son.
11And this is the witness, that God gave us everlasting life, and this life is in his Son.
12The one who has the Son has this life; the one who does not have the Son of God does not have this life.

contrary to false claims , Jehovahs witnesses believe these verses above, they know the source of evaluating life for mankind.

Jehovah has said that he sent the son to mankind, but he also tells us to listen to him, here are some of the words said by the son of God when he came and I hope you follow them :

first jehovah said:
[b]De 18:15Jehovah your God will raise up for you from among your brothers a prophet like me. You must listen to him.
Ac 3:22, 23In fact, Moses said: ‘Jehovah your God will raise up for you from among your brothers a prophet like me. You must listen to whatever he tells you. 23Indeed, anyone who does not listen to that Prophet will be completely destroyed from among the people.’
Heb 2:3how will we escape if we have neglected so great a salvation? For it began to be spoken through our Lord and was verified for us by those who heard him,
Mt 17:5While he was still speaking, look! a bright cloud overshadowed them, and look! a voice out of the cloud said: “This is my Son, the beloved, whom I have approved. Listen to him.”
Isa 42:1Look! My servant, whom I support! My chosen one, whom I have approved! I have put my spirit in him; He will bring justice to the nations.
Mt 3:17Look! Also, a voice from the heavens said: “This is my Son, the beloved, whom I have approved.”
2Pe 1:17, 18 For HE RECIEVED from God the Father honor and glory when words such as these were conveyed to him by the magnificent glory: “This is my Son, my beloved, whom I myself have approved.”18Yes, these words we heard coming from heaven while we were with him in the holy mountain.[/b]

Now what are some of the things the son of God told us and that we must listen to and follow:
[b]Joh 17:3This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ.
Joh 17:8 because I have given them the sayings that you gave me, and they have accepted them and have certainly come to know that I came as your representative, and they have believed that you sent me.


Joh 5:20For the Father has affection for the Son and shows him all the things he himself does, and he will show him works greater than these, so that you may marvel.
Joh 5:22For the Father judges no one at all, but he has entrusted all the judging to the Son,
Ac 10:42Also, he ordered us to preach to the people and to give a thorough witness that this is the one decreed by God to be judge of the living and the dead.
* read also Ac 17:31; 2Co 5:10 ; 2Ti 4:1



Joh 5:24Most truly I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes the One who sent me has everlasting life, and he does not come into judgment but has passed over from death to life.
Joh 5:26For just as the Father has life in himself, so he has GRANTED also to the Son to have life in himself.

Joh 3:16“ For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, so that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life.
Joh 6:40 For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who recognizes the Son and exercises faith in him should have everlasting life, and I will resurrect him on the last day.”[/color]

WHAT DID JESUS AND THE DISCIPLES SAY ABOUT OUR GOD ?
Joh 20:17Jesus said to her: “Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.’”

WHAT DID HIS DISCIPLES SAY ABOUT OUR GOD?
1Co 11:3But I want you to know that the head of every man is the Christ; in turn, the head of a woman is the man; in turn, the head of the Christ is God.
Eph 1:17 that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give you a spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the accurate knowledge of him.
Col 1:3 We always thank God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, when we pray for you,

Jehovahs witnesses believe and try their best to follow the scriptures above, and not some man made derived and false doctrine that can only be supported when one twists the scriptures, totally ignore some, and use scripture verses that had been proven to be adulterated and corrected!

really do you believe that the name of Jesus is the highest name both in heaven and on earth
Do you believe only Jesus has the power to give eternal life?
@ cancelled that is your problem you go beyond the scriptures and then bring in daminable heresies to fill your lust
Do you believe in God's own witness that eternal life is in Christ and not in your organization?
Christians who simply believe in christ, don't you believe they have eternal life through him?
U quoted 1 Tim 2:5,6 do you believe Jesus is a man and God and not an angel?
No sir! Jehovah witnesses do not know the source of life and this is not a false claim


The big question to Jehovah witness is,
DO YOU BELIEVE IN CHRIST?
Look at what Jesus said
John 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long with you, and yet hast thou not know me, Philip? he that has seen me hath seen the Father: and how sayest thou then, she's us the father
U cannot know who the father is, when you consistently deny who the son really is.

In vs 10 Jesus made it bold that he is in the father and the father is in him
In john10:30 he made it clear that he and the father are one.
But just like Philip u want to know the father outside Christ not knowing that the father himself is in Christ and Christ in him.

CAPTIVATOR:


dust off your bible and read, John 1:1 did not make Jesus to be that same God . what do u think about this statement " the Word was WITH God" ? does that not distinguish them

so also john 1:2 , both are clearly distinguished from each other.

don't lie John I:1 clearly refers to Jesus as God.
It doesn't matter what we think what matter is the scriptures we then adjust our human thinking to God's word not the other way round. No wonder you added 'a god' to ur bible.