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Pharmacy And Pharmacology by Tabelachizza(f): 9:10pm On Jul 09, 2016 |
Need enlightenment on the difference between a pharmacist and a pharmacologist.... Thanks |
Re: Pharmacy And Pharmacology by tizblink: 9:25pm On Jul 09, 2016 |
A pharmacologist is a pharmacist. Pharmacology is a discipline or lemme say specialization in pharmacy 1 Like |
Re: Pharmacy And Pharmacology by samwise99(m): 9:42pm On Jul 09, 2016 |
Pharmacy is preparation and dispensing of drugs Pharmacology is the science or study of drugs 5 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Pharmacy And Pharmacology by awesomeDiva(f): 1:06am On Jul 10, 2016 |
samwise99: pharmacology is the science or study of actions and uses of drugs |
Re: Pharmacy And Pharmacology by DucheSsMerezz(f): 3:41am On Jul 10, 2016 |
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Re: Pharmacy And Pharmacology by samwise99(m): 10:20am On Jul 10, 2016 |
awesomeDiva: Yeah |
Re: Pharmacy And Pharmacology by Nobody: 1:06pm On Jul 10, 2016 |
tizblink:Y are u misleading her now. ![]() |
Re: Pharmacy And Pharmacology by Nobody: 1:14pm On Jul 10, 2016 |
Tabelachizza:Sister,, Pharmacologist solely and only deals with d study of nature,action and uses of drug and nothing more.pharmacology is a department under faculty of pharmacy,but some institutions have it as a separate department under faculty of sciences:only Delsu,oou and unilag. As a pharmacist,you know everything about pharmacognosy,pharmaceutical chemistry,pharmaceutical microbiology,pharmaceutics,pharmacy law and ethics,drug production and research,clinical pharmacy as well as biopharmaceutics and pharmacy tech as well as pharmacology and neuropharmacology. All those are departments under d faculty of pharmacy,which evidently implies a pharmacologists has no knowledge about those. You get awarded with d general B.sc in pharmacology as a pharmacologist while its B.Pharm or Pharm.D(doctor of pharmacy) as a pharmacists. You know everything a pharmacologists knows about pharmacology but a pharmacologists only knows a little fraction of what a pharmacist knows. 3 Likes |
Re: Pharmacy And Pharmacology by tizblink: 2:20pm On Jul 10, 2016 |
IZANAMI: Baba, Since pharmacology is studied in pharmacy can't it be said vhat a pharmacologist is a pharmacist... Like when it comes to specialization? |
Re: Pharmacy And Pharmacology by samwise99(m): 3:09pm On Jul 10, 2016 |
tizblink: ... Let me use medical Laboratory Science to give you example. In medical Laboratory Science, histopathology is a department. Therefore a histopathologist is also a medical Laboratory scientist.... That u are a histopathologist by specialty doesn't mean that u don't have knowledge in other areas of medical Laboratory Science. Therefore, since pharmacology is a department in pharmacy, a pharmacologist is a pharmacist. IN THE OTHER HAND, IN MEDICAL LABORATORY SCIENCE, MICROBIOLOGY IS A DEPARTMENT. IF U SPECIALIZED IN MICROBIOLOGY during ur five years training as a medical Laboratory Scientist, you ARE THEREFORE A MEDICAL LABORATORY SCIENTIST BUT IF YOU STUDY MICROBIOLOGY AS A DEPARTMENT ON IT'S OWN.. WITHOUT ANY ATTACHMENT OF MEDICAL LABORATORY SCIENCE.(without having knowledge in other department in medical Laboratory Science) .. U ARE THEREFORE NOT A MEDICAL LABORATORY SCIENTIST... () SO IN THIS CASE, IF YOU STUDIED PHARMACOLOGY WITHOUT ANy ELEMENT OF ATTACHMENT WITH PHARMACY.. U ARE NOT A PHARMACIST. Inconclusion A pharmacologist can be said to be a pharmacist, if he has knowledge in other department in pharmacy. 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Pharmacy And Pharmacology by tizblink: 3:17pm On Jul 10, 2016 |
samwise99: Yeah, I grab. That's what I'd in mind before my statement. Prolly cuz I didn't elaborate. Guess twas a lil misleading tho Thank you baba. 1 Like |
Re: Pharmacy And Pharmacology by samwise99(m): 3:23pm On Jul 10, 2016 |
tizblink: You are welcome bro Which part is misleading? |
Re: Pharmacy And Pharmacology by tizblink: 3:29pm On Jul 10, 2016 |
samwise99:No be you jare. I meant my first comment on the topic |
Re: Pharmacy And Pharmacology by samwise99(m): 4:03pm On Jul 10, 2016 |
tizblink: Ok |
Re: Pharmacy And Pharmacology by charliejose: 5:43pm On Jul 10, 2016 |
IZANAMI:sometimes,it's idea you keep silent rather than give answers to what you're not sure about..pharmacology is of course the study of drug actions in the biological system..but it's way more than that..pharmacology is among the leading departments in drug discovery. pharmacists basically deal with dispensation,regulation and preparation of drugs..they prepared drugs that are already discovered..the pharmacologist discovers the main components of the drug...and u mentioned OOU,UNILAG AND DELSU as the only schools having pharmacology under the college of medicine..i would like you to name how many schools in Nigeria that offer pharmacology as an undergraduate course apart from the ones you mentioned?..oh of course AFE BABALOLA university just got added to the list and will be starting pharmacology as an undergrad course this session. pharmacology is virtually the only course that connects the college of medicine and the faculty of pharmacy together..that's why students in the dept of pharmacology do virtually a lot in both fields..and yea in most schools,pharmacology students offer almost every course in the faculty of pharmacy..including pharmacognosy,pharmaceutical chemistry etc..so please try getting your facts right before derailing someone yearning for information 2 Likes |
Re: Pharmacy And Pharmacology by charliejose: 5:47pm On Jul 10, 2016 |
disclaimer;pharmacology is not under the faculty of pharmacy but under the faculty of basic medical science,college of Medicine ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Pharmacy And Pharmacology by Nobody: 7:00pm On Jul 10, 2016 |
charliejose: ![]() ![]() And who discovered d drug?A pharmacologist ![]() ![]() Pharmacology students offer every course in FAC of pharmacy?So you do pharmacognosy,Pharm chem and pharmaceutics ![]() ![]() ![]() Well,let's just cap of this way,a pharmacist is a pharmacologist but reverse isn't the same. 1 Like |
Re: Pharmacy And Pharmacology by charliejose: 7:10pm On Jul 10, 2016 |
IZANAMI:yes! students at the department of pharmacology,unilag offer pharmaceutical chemistry,pharmacognosy..except pharmaceutics..you can confirm that..and i think you're the person in need of Google ![]() |
Re: Pharmacy And Pharmacology by Nobody: 7:20pm On Jul 10, 2016 |
charliejose:Stop being ignorant,there are 6departments or so under fac of pharmacy.check that link bro,haha,such ignorance. http://www.oauife.edu.ng/academics/faculties/pharmacy/ It's needless comparing a pharmacologist and a pharmacist bro,it's utter folly ![]() ![]() How does a pharmacologist discover a drug pls?Lwkmd That's d duty of a pharmacist specialized in pharmacognosy,drugs are gotten from either plant,animal or biological origin and that's d duty of a pharmacist to isolate it either by solvent or supercritical extraction,Maceration,chromatography,ion gel electrophoresis and many more.The chemistry of d drug is then examined by a Pharm chemist which involves knowing its structure probably through NMR,ESR,UV,IR or spectrometry. The reaction mechanism then comes into place,maybe d drug will elicit more of beneficial effect by possibly substituting its methoxyl group for hydroxyl group or its lethal dose will be decreased by eliminating or reducing some functional groups or d undesirable laxative effect will be annulled by some reactions triggered by passing it over some chemical reagents. The pharmacologist(still a pharmacist) now works hand in hand with d dept of pharmaceutics by ascertaining d dose best suitable,maybe it'll have a higher bioavailability through d sublingual route or d peridural route,thus pharmaceutics produce d different dosage forms best suitable(external/internal) and lethal effects. The Pharm microbiologist will ensure d condition best suitable for d manufacture of d drug by ensuring d aseptic procedures best possible,prevents contamination and others.. How can you say pharmacology isn't a dept under faculty of pharmacy,such an utter folly.You'll certainly get ur ass whooped if you make such a stupefying conjecture in public. I'm in no mood for typing stories. ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Pharmacy And Pharmacology by Nobody: 7:24pm On Jul 10, 2016 |
charliejose:yh,I suppose and that'll be d superficial ones.Just to have a little knowledge about it d way Pharm students also do anatomy,physiology,biochemistry and pathology. ![]() ![]() No Pharm micro,no clinical pharmacy,no pharmacy law and ethics,no drug research and production,no biopharmaceutics,no Pharm tech ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Wait,are u trying to compare a pharmacist with a pharmacologist? ![]() ![]() Not even on par @ all. 3 Likes |
Re: Pharmacy And Pharmacology by charliejose: 7:54pm On Jul 10, 2016 |
IZANAMI:there's no need to write much here; . hhttp://hms.harvard.edu/news/transforming-drug-discovery-10-17-11 . i will like to know if you know better than harvard university ![]() btw...OAU offers pharmacology at graduate level.. of course every college of medicine must surely have a department of pharmacology which contain a faculty that lectures medical students,physiology students as well as pharmacy students...but only a selective few(oau,unilag,delsu and abu,ado ekiti) offer at undergraduate level and all those you spewing out making you look like one confirmed prof,its obvious you got that knowledge in pharmacology(structure activity relationship(SAR)) which is a course in sympathetic pharmacology...that entails changes in the structure of a drug component to elicit a different effect..........ppls i stand to be corrected ![]() |
Re: Pharmacy And Pharmacology by charliejose: 7:57pm On Jul 10, 2016 |
IZANAMI:https://www.rsb.org.uk/images/Pharmacology_Skills_for_Drug_Discovery.pd ..nd i think this will shut you up totally ![]() |
Re: Pharmacy And Pharmacology by charliejose: 8:04pm On Jul 10, 2016 |
pharmacology is a very new field(undergrad level) in this country's educational system..reason why folks like izanami speak ill of this course..pharmacists,pharmacologists all have their respective role in the medical field , nd cos of our ignorance, ![]() |
Re: Pharmacy And Pharmacology by Nobody: 8:15pm On Jul 10, 2016 |
charliejose:A pharmacist is a pharmacologist bro ![]() ![]() ![]() More reason only 3 schools are running d program. You can do masters in pharmacology after ur b.Pharm So? Can a pharmacologist work as a superintendent pharmacist? Can a pharmacologist works as a research fellow in niprd,nafdac,pmg-man and ndlea?Those ones are pharmaceutical government parastatals,they'll never take a pharmacologist over a pharmacist. They don't even require 'em in hospitals and maternity centres. Can't work in d Pharm industry or ministry of health. Where do they work in d first place? Enlighten me. Coz from all these job vacancies I do see everywhere,I can audaciously say I've never seen where they place a requirement for a B.sc in pharmacology holder. So with d way u sweetalked this course,it should be worthwhile but I don't think it's so. A biochemist or microbiologist has more job prospect than a pharmacologist. They're only limited to research and lecturing and virtually a degrees can do that,even someone with a degree in human resource management.. So I wanna ask you,,,If you're faced with a limbo of picking between pharmacology and pharmacy,which would you pick?I think d question's even rhetorical on its own. 2 Likes |
Re: Pharmacy And Pharmacology by Nobody: 8:16pm On Jul 10, 2016 |
charliejose:it's telling me entry is forbidden.prolly you pasted an expired link or what?(1)http://www.unn.edu.ng/academics/faculties/pharmaceutical-sciences/department-of-pharmacology-and-toxicology-staff-profile/ (2)http://www.oauife.edu.ng/academics/faculties/pharmacy/departments/pharmacology/ (3)http://www.ui.edu.ng/deppharmacy (4)http://www.madonnauniversity.edu.ng/faculty-of-pharmacy (5)http://www.unizik.edu.ng/faculties/pharmaceutical-sciences# Those are just few among others. All faculty of pharmaceutical sciences have 5-6 departments thereabout in which department of pharmacology is one.So??This one you're vindicating what is not. |
Re: Pharmacy And Pharmacology by charliejose: 8:47pm On Jul 10, 2016 |
IZANAMI:trust me,i will never pick pharmacy even for any other medical course..most of the pharmacists here end up as "glorified" sales representative ![]() ![]() disclaimer;pharmacists dont do everything in pharmacology...they don't offer toxicology, and just have an abridged knowledge of neuropharmacology,imunopharmacology etc.. 1 Like |
Re: Pharmacy And Pharmacology by charliejose: 8:58pm On Jul 10, 2016 |
IZANAMI:please check out the department of pharmacology in most universities in the U.S and confirm to me in which faculty the dept falls in..if its the faculty of pharmacy or faculty of basic medical sciences.. i can give you clues..e.g columbia university,new york;emory university,atlanta;yale university;harvard etc...you know these are world class universities..nd not some confused Nigerian universities you mentioned above.. ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Pharmacy And Pharmacology by Nobody: 9:12pm On Jul 10, 2016 |
charliejose:,nd thats all u can say about d job prospect??almost nothing to write home about concerning the prospect kf the course.heck,i'm so damn sure you wouldnt advise anyone u like to study pharmacology.So i was totally right afterall.i can I can see you know nada about pharmacy.It's so apparent you're very very shallow minded and myopic about what pharmacy entails,I wasnt expecting much though. Tell me a quality control officer or sterility assurance officer,a superintendent pharmacist in a retail chain(boots/wallgreen),a research fellow in multinational NGOs(AIEM,IPF,WHO,undp or USAID),a chief operating officer in d industry,a production manager,regional manager,pharmacovigilantee in NDLEA,executive trainee in gsk,junior research analyst in nafdac,nabda,niprd or pmg-man,pharmacists in ministries of health,health and maternity centres,hospitals,consultant pharmacists are sales rep??You know nothing about pharmacy,don't say what you don't know.I would have schooled you more, but you evidently don't need it. Pharmacists who go for med rep job do because of the pay coupled with d official car and a lot of other tips. The entry level salary for a multinational like novartis or sanofi aventis can be 2times that of a Senior medical officerr not to even talk of a senior rep. A friend of mine do say this;"Call me anything you want,marketer, sales boy or whatever,so far I keep smiling to the bank and I'm not going on strike for d sake of unpaid salary,so far my salary is 3times yours,I don't give a damn". I'm sure you would pick optometry,radiography, anatomy,physiology,biochemistry, midwifery,medical lab science over pharmacy.. ![]() ![]() So??The past director of general.of nafdac who were pharmacist didn't have any masters degree or PhD in pharmacology. 1 Like |
Re: Pharmacy And Pharmacology by croSStodds(m): 9:24pm On Jul 10, 2016 |
charliejose:Ode,you know nothing jare.Na Harvard we dey?Yeye dey smell.Na USA u dey?Oponu,sharrap jareh.u just dey talk bulshit since.You never even talk anything wey make sense since. olodo! if my son talk say he wan study that fucking course, na me go strangle am to death. ![]() ![]() |
Re: Pharmacy And Pharmacology by Objectoriented: 9:48pm On Jul 10, 2016 |
This is just like computer science and software engineesingy in Nigerian university you can only study software engineering at post graduate level of computer related degree but in some universities abroad you can study software engineering{ right from First year} as a course at undergraduate level so maybe pharmacology is a special area in foreign universities just like Nigerian software engineering in foreign university while-maybe- pharmacology modify to be a standalone course in nigeria in order create an alternative course for huge number of student who want to study pharmacy i guess |
Re: Pharmacy And Pharmacology by charliejose: 10:00pm On Jul 12, 2016 |
croSStodds:so for your mind now,with all the trash u've typed now,you think u've made sense.....i will just stop typing so that i don't loose a bit of my IQ replying you fully |
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