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nice write up

It is better we tell ourselves the truth. I support d op's

The different between what is Right and Wrong is now very tiny... Too tiny that its no longer visible to the eyes.


The word morality is suffocating and will soon die in no distant time...


Focus on your salvation and leave others alone for they already know truth (Its Bitter).

Oh dear God, here we go again with this nonsense.

Avoidhellfire:


IS PREMARITAL SEX A SIN?
You may be surprised to know that the answer to this question could be yes and it could be a no. premarital sex can be a sin if you do not end up marrying that person, but if you marry the person then it may not be a sin. When people say “premarital sex”, are they trying to say that it is only when you have a wedding ceremony that you can engage in sex? What if I choose not to do a wedding ceremony instead I choose to exchange vows with my partner in our private room without the knowledge of anyone and I end up engaging in sex with my wife, should I be accused of premarital sex since I did not have a public wedding ceremony? This is why premarital sex may not be a sin if you end up marrying that person, but what you must not do and I repeat what you must not do is to leave that person after you have had sex with them, if you do you will be sexual immoral.

I may not agree with some of the things you wrote . Until you're married you're not married. Sex without the marriage contract is fornication. So two people secretly agree to be husband and wife is not marriage . There has to be witnesses . A woman has to be given to you . Living as husband and wife without legally marrying is cohabitation and Jesus made it clear that cohabitation is not marriage

John 4:18 (KJV)
For thou hast had five husbands; and he whom thou now hast is not thy husband: in that saidst thou truly.

John 4:17 (Living Bible, The - TLB)
"But I'm not married," the woman replied.
"All too true!" Jesus said. "For you have had five husbands, and you aren't even married to the man you're living with now."


So there is a difference between the one you're married to and the one you're living with.

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Nice write up op

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Avoidhellfire:

traditionally a public wedding may be appropriate and woman being given to you by her parents may be appropriate but you need to realize that marriage is between you, your partner and God.

A woman does not give herself . She is given to a man. That's how God ordains it . It's not just two people .

Jeremiah 29:6 (KJV)
Take ye wives, and beget sons and daughters; and take wives for your sons, and give your daughters to husbands, that they may bear sons and daughters; that ye may be increased there, and not diminished.

God is your most important witness. also there are some situations where a public wedding and a woman being given to you may not be possible. for example what if the bride and groom are not on speaking terms with their family and they don't want to inform their family of the marriage and so they both choose to do a private wedding? its not about who sees you get married because the people are just human beings, its God that matters

If they have such issue the wedding cannot hold.

You are preaching a different gospel from the one Christ taught. Fornication is fornication. There are no buts when it comes to this. Sex between legally married couples (according to biblical standard) is the only acceptable form of sex.

Avoidhellfire:

Ezeikel 3:18-19 "If I warn the wicked, saying, ‘You are under the penalty of death,’ but you fail to deliver the warning, they will die in their sins. And I will hold you responsible for their deaths. If you warn them and they refuse to repent and keep on sinning, they will die in their sins. But you will have saved yourself because you obeyed me.

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Your moniker is avoidhellfire but you're preaching a message that send souls directly to hell with such messages.


You are just comfortable twisting the true meaning of verses to suit yourself. Do you need the bible to give you the meaning of fornication to actually know what it is.

I weep for you. There's no other definition of fornication Mr man. And fornication has no good sides. Repent and give your life to Christ.

Avoidhellfire:

EXODUS 22:16 states that "IF A MAN SEDUCES A VIRGIN WHO IS NOT ENGAGED TO ANYONE AND HAS SEX WITH HER, HE MUST PAY THE CUSTOMARY BRIDE PRICE AND MARRY HER. Here, the bible is implying that if you engage in sex with someone you are not married to, you can still be free from sin as long as you marry that person. also you need to know that unlike adultery the Bible did not define what formication means. if you do a research on the meaning of fornication you will discover that the word we know as fornication and which people believe to mean premarital sex may mean something else like some other form of sexual immorality. a dictionary definition is not reliable since the bible did not define what fornication means. but having said this and as a general rule it is advised that Christians avoid premarital sex as they don't know if they will marry that person or not.

Amberon11:
Your moniker is avoidhellfire but you're preaching a message that send souls directly from hell... And fornication has no good sides. Repent and give your life to Christ.

The purest comedy gold

This is why I love the religion sector of NL.

And the confusion continues.So long religitards!

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Avoidhellfire:

YOU DON'T GET IT, what i am trying to emphasize is that marriage is between you,your partner and God. it's not about having witnesses, will these witnesses be there with you during judgement? it is about telling God who you want to marry and if you both tell God in private that you want to marry and you propose in private then you are already committed to each other. what a Christian must not believe is that there must be some sort of public ceremony before God can acknowledge that you are both married. doing so will be paganizing the marriage ceremony as some sort of sacrifice which shows that you are getting married. also I need to preach in this way because some evil people try to portray God as some sort of bully that does not want you to have sex whilst they portray satan as a good person that tolerates you having sex. this is why i have to preach the true implications of pre marital sex.
EXODUS 22:16 states that "IF A MAN SEDUCES A VIRGIN WHO IS NOT ENGAGED TO ANYONE AND HAS SEX WITH HER, HE MUST PAY THE CUSTOMARY BRIDE PRICE AND MARRY HER. Here, the bible is implying that if you engage in sex with someone you are not married to, you can still be free from sin as long as you marry that person. also you need to know that unlike adultery the Bible did not define what fornication means. if you do a research on the meaning of fornication you will discover that the word we know as fornication and which people believe to mean premarital sex may mean something else like some other form of sexual immorality. a dictionary definition is not reliable since the bible did not define what fornication means. but having said this and as a general rule it is advised that Christians avoid premarital sex as they don't know if they will marry that person or not.
......so please tell me what fornication means since you ignorantly disagree with the truth i have told.

Can you explain from scriptures

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