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Re: Shooting At Munich Shopping Center In Germany, 6 Dead by nbright: 9:53pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
They were warned not to accept the asylum seekers that those guys from that particular religion don't want peace but the Deutsch secret service failed to listen. Islam is and has never been a religion of peace 5 Likes
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Re: Shooting At Munich Shopping Center In Germany, 6 Dead by ibnhasan: 9:54pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
Islam preaches Peace. Every expert who has studied the terror attacks always remark that the terrorists are either deranged or know nothing about Islam in the first place. From the Boston bombings to the Paris attacks (even the one with the bus). This is not Islam and no good Muslim would do any of these things. Some of these terrorists have psychological issues which the media ignores just to stereotype Islam and Muslims. Most of these terrorists are just eager and excited religious newbies with no knowledge of Islam and therefore cannot act in the name of Islam. Here is a link to a video to further prove these contentions https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vop1ZNIc_j8 Even if this argument is too hard for you grasp, think of how these people have slaughtered muslims. From Turkey to Bangladesh and even Medina which is the second holiest site in Islam. This is enough proof to show that the terrorists have no religion and are nothing but bloodthirsty nitwits. There were many Muslims too in the last Paris attacks. If Islam truly preached murdering innocent people as these terrorists claim. Then with 1.7 billion Muslims in the world, There should no one left on this planet. We all should be up against them instead of spreading hate and misinformation which will only make the terrorists' goals more achievable. 6 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Shooting At Munich Shopping Center In Germany, 6 Dead by Nobody: 9:58pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
Europe must be regretting ever opening their doors for these people. 3 Likes |
Re: Shooting At Munich Shopping Center In Germany, 6 Dead by Kainene77: 10:02pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
falopey: But nobody knows yet if the people who did it today are Muslims. |
Re: Shooting At Munich Shopping Center In Germany, 6 Dead by Nobody: 10:03pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
ibnhasan: A week ago Muslim youths numbering about 200 rose from their Friday service to attack a church without provocation, destroying properties worth millions and threatening human lives. U mean to tell me that those youths were deranged and decided to attack the church after the Imam fed them with a good dose of preaching and teachings about peace? 27 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Shooting At Munich Shopping Center In Germany, 6 Dead by LabiaDestroyer(m): 10:05pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
Girl360:u give up on humanity? what r u waiting for...kick the f*king bucket. Mtcheew... |
Re: Shooting At Munich Shopping Center In Germany, 6 Dead by Richdude44(m): 10:06pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
#PrayforMunich 2 Likes |
Re: Shooting At Munich Shopping Center In Germany, 6 Dead by Kainene77: 10:09pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
prettyboi1989: And whose fault were the attacks that happened before that? |
Re: Shooting At Munich Shopping Center In Germany, 6 Dead by Girl360(f): 10:11pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
LabiaDestroyer:**Ignored** 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Shooting At Munich Shopping Center In Germany, 6 Dead by LabiaDestroyer(m): 10:16pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
ibnhasan:why lieth thee ye moslem? Your propheth Mohammad preached violence Tabari 9: 69 “Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us” The words of Muhammad , prophet of Islam . Ibn Ishaq : 327 – “Allah said , ‘ A prophet must slaughter before collecting captives . A slaughtered enemy is driven from the land . Muhammad , you craved the desires of this world , its goods and the ransom captives would bring . But Allah desires killing them to manifest the religion .’” Ibn Ishaq : 990 – Lest anyone think that cutting off someone’ s head while screaming ‘ Allah Akbar!’ is a modern custom, here is an account of that very practice under Muhammad , who seems to approve . Ibn Ishaq : 992 – “Fight everyone in the way of Allah and kill those who disbelieve in Allah.” Muhammad ’ s instructions to his men prior to a military raid . The Quran : Quran (2 : 191-193 ) – “ And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out , for persecution [of Muslims ] is worse than slaughter [of non -believers ]… but if desist , then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until persecution is no more , and religion is for Allah .” There is a good case to be made that the textual context of this particular passage is defensive war , even if the historical context was not . However , there are also two worrisome pieces to this verse . The first is that the killing of others is authorized in the event of “persecution ” ( a qualification that is ambiguous at best) . The second is that fighting may persist until “religion is for Allah. ” The example set by Muhammad is not reassuring. Quran (2 : 244) – “Then fight in the cause of Allah , and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things .” Quran (2 : 216) – “Fighting is prescribed for you , and ye dislike it . But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you , and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not .” Not only does this verse establish that violence can be virtuous, but it also contradicts the myth that fighting is intended only in self-defense , since the audience was obviously not under attack at the time . From the Hadith, we know that Muhammad was actually trying to motivate his people into raiding caravans with this verse. Quran (3 : 56) – “As to those who reject faith , I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help.” Quran (3 : 151) – “Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah , for which He had sent no authority” . This speaks directly of polytheists, yet it also includes Christians , since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be ‘ joining companions to Allah ’). Quran (4 : 74) – “Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah , be he slain or be he victorious , on him We shall bestow a vast reward.” The martyrs of Islam are unlike the early Christians , led meekly to the slaughter. These Muslims are killed in battle , as they attempt to inflict death and destruction for the cause of Allah. Here is the theological basis for today ’ s suicide bombers . Quran (4 : 76) – “Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…” Quran (4 : 89) – “They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do , and thus be on the same footing (as they) : But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden ) . But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks . ” Quran (4 : 95) – “Not equal are those believers who sit (at home ) and receive no hurt , and those who strive and fight in the cause of Allah with their goods and their persons. Allah hath granted a grade higher to those who strive and fight with their goods and persons than to those who sit (at home ) . Unto all ( in Faith) Hath Allah promised good: But those who strive and fight Hath He distinguished above those who sit (at home ) by a special reward, - ” This passage criticizes “peaceful ” Muslims who do not join in the violence, letting them know that they are less worthy in Allah’ s eyes. It also demolishes the modern myth that “Jihad ” doesn ’ t mean holy war in the Quran, but rather a spiritual struggle. Not only is the Arabic word used in this passage , but it is clearly not referring to anything spiritual , since the physically disabled are given exemption. ( The Hadith reveals the context of the passage to be in response to a blind man’ s protest that he is unable to engage in Jihad and this is reflected in other translations of the verse) . Quran (4 : 104) – “And be not weak hearted in pursuit of the enemy ; if you suffer pain , then surely they ( too) suffer pain as you suffer pain…” Is pursuing an injured and retreating enemy really an act of self -defense? Quran (5 : 33) – “The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this , that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world , and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement ” Quran (8 : 12) – “I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them” No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle. Quran (8 : 15) – “O ye who believe! When ye meet those who disbelieve in battle , turn not your backs to them. (16) Whoso on that day turneth his back to them, unless maneuvering for battle or intent to join a company , he truly hath incurred wrath from Allah , and his habitation will be hell, a hapless journey ’ s end. ” Quran (8 : 39) – “And fight with them until there is no more persecution and religion should be only for Allah ” From the historical context we know that the “persecution ” spoken of here was simply the refusal by the Meccans to allow Muhammad to enter their city and perform the Haj . Other Muslims were able to travel there, just not as an armed group , since Muhammad declared war on Mecca prior to his eviction . The Meccans were also acting in defense of their religion , since it was Muhammad ’ s intention to destroy their idols and establish Islam by force ( which he later did ). Hence the critical part of this verse is to fight until “religion is only for Allah .” According to Ibn Ishaq (324) , Muhammad justified the violence further by explaining that “ Allah must have no rivals.” Quran (8 : 57) – “If thou comest on them in the war , deal with them so as to strike fear in those who are behind them, that haply they may remember.” Quran (8 : 59-60) – “And let not those who disbelieve suppose that they can outstrip ( Allah ’ s Purpose ). Lo! they cannot escape . Make ready for them all thou canst of (armed ) force and of horses tethered , that thereby ye may dismay the enemy of Allah and your enemy.” Quran (8 : 65) – “O Prophet , exhort the believers to fight …” Quran (9 : 5) – “ So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush , then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate , leave their way free to them. ” According to this verse , the best way of staying safe from Muslim violence is to convert to Islam . Prayer (salat ) and the poor tax ( zakat) are among the religions Five Pillars . Quran (9 : 14) – “Fight them, Allah will punish them by your hands and bring them to disgrace…” Quran (9 : 20) – “Those who believe, and have left their homes and striven with their wealth and their lives in Allah’ s way are of much greater worth in Allah’ s sight . These are they who are triumphant .” The “striving ” spoken of here is Jihad . Quran (9 : 29) – “Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day , nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger 11 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Shooting At Munich Shopping Center In Germany, 6 Dead by tainot2002(m): 10:17pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
I can see why some people fail to comprehend simple sentence. OP did not mention any religion from the context,yet some people turned it to religion war just to prove their points. Receive Sense! 1 Like |
Re: Shooting At Munich Shopping Center In Germany, 6 Dead by Nobody: 10:20pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
JesusmyGod1:And Arab christian calls God Allaah, in short u b ignoramus. Illiterate kawai! 1 Like |
Re: Shooting At Munich Shopping Center In Germany, 6 Dead by wyse24(m): 10:20pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
falopey: the incident that happened in Nice, don't forget that the first victim to lose her life was a Muslim and Arab. The incident that happened in kubwa Nigerian Media: Truth versus Reality In the past few days, the hearts of genuine citizens of our great nation have bled over the news of the killing of a female Christian preacher by alleged Muslim fanatics in Kubwa area of the FCT, Abuja. I was actually alerted by a friend's ext message because although i reside in the affected area, i was far away in Ibadan, Oyo State, as at the time of the incident. As an average concerned Nigerian, i thought, when will this nation be free from religious and ethnic crises? But as a journalist and one with eye for investigation, i knew i had a duty at hand. So, on my return to the city, i visited the particular street, the particular spot, conducted personal investigation and secret interviews, and made several findings. I became sad! Why? Most of the information doled out by our media are NOT TRUE! For the avoidance of doubt, there was no evidence of anyone present when the woman died. Witnesses only said they met her dead. Secondly, i did not find anyone to confirm that any part of the woman was missing or mutilated. I talked with one who saw the corpse early that morning, with two policemen, before the news went viral. Thirdly, there was no mosque in that street or behind the spot. Fourthly, the vicinity had been under the torment of cultism in the past few months, in fact, two separate persons were found killed and dumped in the area recently, one of them on the street adjacent this particular one. The police is actually on the trail of s notorious cult who is believed to have sneaked into and hiding in the area. The police is insisting that they met the corpse body intact. But, alas! What my colleagues wrote were terrifying. In fact, it revived hatred, instigated religious intolerance and personal mistrust. I am sure many of you journalists who wrote the story were not in Abuja, you just received the news from friends and forwarded to your headquarters, which also did not verify before going to press. I also know that many of those in Abuja then did not visit the place, nor conduct proper investigation. For an issue as critical as religion and ethnicity, most of you goofed! The media is an indefatigable player in nation building, and no society is firmly built on negligence and mistrust as being displayed by our journalists. But, the media houses too are at fault. Most of them pay peanuts for staff while the few at the top swim in affluence. Where, then, is the resource and motivation for the reporter to carry out investigative reporting and due diligence. To survive, many journalists are pipers in the hands of politicians, religious leaders and businessmen and even government, who dictate their tune. Yet, the masses are at the receiving end because they naturally hold on to the news from the media. It is a hell a times, to change the people's perception on issues, over which our media had made serious blunders. I had had to show identity cards to some, before they agree to reason along the right perspective. The corruption on the media is much, but our colleagues can just help hold on to the truth. By Sulaimon Adeshina A well sound Muslim with better understand of his deen will not endangered the life of others let alone kill. If u want to know well about the religion study it and not the people who bear a Muslim name but aren't Muslim by deed. Your belief doesn't make you a better person, your behavior does. I am not here to debate sha,just dropping my own comment 1 Like |
Re: Shooting At Munich Shopping Center In Germany, 6 Dead by LabiaDestroyer(m): 10:21pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
Girl360:lol |
Re: Shooting At Munich Shopping Center In Germany, 6 Dead by Nobody: 10:21pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
JesusmyGod1: And Arab christian calls God Allaah, when he wants to praise God he says Allahu Akbar.., in short u b ignoramus for been too stupid, U know nothing at all... Illiterate kawai! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Shooting At Munich Shopping Center In Germany, 6 Dead by adaxxy: 10:23pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
Islam bad. 2 Likes |
Re: Shooting At Munich Shopping Center In Germany, 6 Dead by Nobody: 10:23pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
prettyboi1989:Exactly, I was so so sad some months back when Germany opened her borders to them. If there is a way to send them back to their war torn countries, I will be glad and even be delighted to forcefully help haul their violent assses back. Goddammit Merkel!! She caused this 3 Likes |
Re: Shooting At Munich Shopping Center In Germany, 6 Dead by Nobody: 10:23pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
Bolustic: Guy, u can lie ah!!!! |
Re: Shooting At Munich Shopping Center In Germany, 6 Dead by Funjosh(m): 10:23pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
It is well |
Re: Shooting At Munich Shopping Center In Germany, 6 Dead by Blackfire(m): 10:28pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
Germany u never see something. When we said the fundamentalism of Islam will destroy even the nation accommodating it, they call us names... Ask the meccans, ask the 3 Jewish tribe in ahmed ibn abdulallah time, ask the hausas , ask the afonjas, ask the Egyptians... Tears sorrows and blood. 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Shooting At Munich Shopping Center In Germany, 6 Dead by herlonso: 10:28pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
Bolustic:u are just bitter for misleading pple about sokoto people. dtz wer am serving presently too and dey are good pple. Beside sokoto is one of d peaceful state in d country so wat d Bleep are u talking about.... bros u can lie o 1 Like |
Re: Shooting At Munich Shopping Center In Germany, 6 Dead by LabiaDestroyer(m): 10:29pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
wyse24:Liar!!!! If the prophet Muhammad preached violence what more can be expected from his followers Quran (3 : 151) – “Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah , for which He had sent no authority” Quran (8 : 12) – “I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them” No reasonable person would interpret this to mean a spiritual struggle. Quran (8 : 59-60) – “And let not those who disbelieve suppose that they can outstrip ( Allah ’ s Purpose ). Lo! they cannot escape . Make ready for them all thou canst of (armed ) force and of horses tethered , that thereby ye may dismay the enemy of Allah and your enemy.” Quran (8 : 65) – “O Prophet , exhort the believers to fight …” Quran (9 : 5) – “ So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush , then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate , leave their way free to them. ” According to this verse , the best way of staying safe from Muslim violence is to convert to Islam . Prayer (salat ) and the poor tax ( zakat) are among the religions Five Pillars . Quran (8 : 39) – “And fight with them until there is no more persecution and religion should be only for Allah ” From the historical context we know that the “persecution ” spoken of here was simply the refusal by the Meccans to allow Muhammad to enter their city and perform the Haj . Other Muslims were able to travel there, just not as an armed group , since Muhammad declared war on Mecca prior to his eviction . The Meccans were also acting in defense of their religion , since it was Muhammad ’ s intention to destroy their idols and establish Islam by force ( which he later did ). Hence the critical part of this verse is to fight until “religion is only for Allah .” According to Ibn Ishaq (324) , Muhammad justified the violence further by explaining that “ Allah must have no rivals.” Quran (8 : 57) – “If thou comest on them in the war , deal with them so as to strike fear in those who are behind them, that haply they may remember.” 7 Likes |
Re: Shooting At Munich Shopping Center In Germany, 6 Dead by delerx(m): 10:30pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
It all started from the old testaments,wars BTW Israelites and Co and that's how it's gonna be till we have a new earth nd Heaven. Girl360: |
Re: Shooting At Munich Shopping Center In Germany, 6 Dead by whyx06(m): 10:31pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
JesusmyGod1: Subhanalahi... 3 Likes
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Re: Shooting At Munich Shopping Center In Germany, 6 Dead by Nobody: 10:32pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
masseratti:Ur analysis dey misplaced, and it shows how shallow ur mind/thinking is?! How can u use a Quran to. Eat popcorn, or draw an image of Muhammad when u know the people practicing the religion won't like it? u dey intentionally look for trouble be dat now!! Also Islam defends its religion, and naso christians no dey defend dem religion...na Christian like u dey attend the "Nights Of A Thousand Laughs" where various comedians like Akpors, Basket mouth, Gordons etc, perfoms. And for those familiar with their jokes and comedies, the Church and the pastors and even Jesus Peace be on him...are usually the play toy and target (of course they know the backlash if they should involve Islaam). They joke to blackmail Jesus, while the audience laugh uncontrollably.All this in the name of, "You can't fight for God".?!? May God guide u aright guy! 1 Like |
Re: Shooting At Munich Shopping Center In Germany, 6 Dead by Blackfire(m): 10:34pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
wyse24: al taqiya master i hail o. 5 Likes |
Re: Shooting At Munich Shopping Center In Germany, 6 Dead by Nobody: 10:35pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
Hmmm... ISIS strikes back. |
Re: Shooting At Munich Shopping Center In Germany, 6 Dead by Pascal181: 10:35pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
Tenkobos:Can't u use ur head and knw d religion responsibe till now? 3 Likes |
Re: Shooting At Munich Shopping Center In Germany, 6 Dead by Nobody: 10:37pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
SnowJay92:I don't think there would be any church in proximity to Muslims if its so. |
Re: Shooting At Munich Shopping Center In Germany, 6 Dead by Shome36(m): 10:37pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
Ontarget: |
Re: Shooting At Munich Shopping Center In Germany, 6 Dead by Nobody: 10:38pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
Richdude44:And u never pray for nigeria b4, hiaaa...!!! |
Re: Shooting At Munich Shopping Center In Germany, 6 Dead by Nobody: 10:39pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
LabiaDestroyer: But young fellow, u can copy and paste sha?!?!!! U r a liar!! 1 Like |
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