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Re: 5 Categories Of People That Say "Education Does Not Guarantee Success" by Nobody: 6:54am On Jul 23, 2016
dd
Re: 5 Categories Of People That Say "Education Does Not Guarantee Success" by espn(m): 6:55am On Jul 23, 2016
It doesnt
Re: 5 Categories Of People That Say "Education Does Not Guarantee Success" by WHIZKIDEFE(m): 6:57am On Jul 23, 2016
virud:
For starters, there are broadly two forms of education; formal (conventional primary, secondary and university institutions of learning ) and informal (petty trading, apprenticeship etc ) education. For the records, success is not tied to any particular form of education.

Success as far as am concerned is a relative term, the accomplishment of an aim or purpose, and it is not tied to one particular event. Education and success are very different phenomenon. Any attempt to mix both is usually catastrophic.


On the other hand, Education is the the process of receiving or giving systematic instruction. By this simple definition, every person you've met seems to have attained a level / degree of education.

Education and success, what is the correlation, if any?
Now if education to you means seeing the four walls of a conventional university, secondary or primary institution, then, I make bold to say that your brand of education is not important to achieving success. Simply because education and literacy are not correlated.

Be that as it may, Education is very important to both your personal and professional life, in a number of significant ways! Depending on the level of success you’re seeking to achieve, the level of education may be relative, but the bottom line is, an education of some sort is often paramount to future success. And everyone is by some deliberate means educated. There's no such thing as illiteracy.

Everyone has got some sort of education, and am not being philosophical, I mean it literally. If you doubt, sight an example of anyone / group of persons you think are 'illiterates' and I would gladly point out their education.
A round of applause for you. Well said, bro.

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Re: 5 Categories Of People That Say "Education Does Not Guarantee Success" by Edusouls(m): 6:59am On Jul 23, 2016
EduRegard:
A new chorus has taken over the nation. The song of "Education does not guarantee success". I can precisely say that you must have come across it either from your close associates or those in your far edge.

There are a good number of people who often say "Education does not guarantee success". This article will unveil them.

1. The Illiterate.

The illiterate, as they are known, are ignorant of the power of education. The predominance of them see years spent in school as a waste of time.

2. People With Financial Crisis.

Another category of people who often say "Education does not guarantee success" are those who can't afford to send their children to higher institution or the victims of these parents. They say this to console themselves.

3. People who give up when seeking admission.

The indolent people have never run out of excuses. They always have something to say to defend their inabilities. After they could have applied for admission for a number of times and couldn't make it. They end up saying "Education does not guarantee success".

4. People with poor grades.

Students with low grades are often scare of their chances of graduating well. They mostly have the phobia that their certificates will be inoperable. A good clause they used to soothe themselves is "Education does not guarantee success".

5. Those who succeed without education.

Let me first congratulate this category of people for their achievements. This set of people at times discourage people from going to higher institution because of their success without the effect of education. They won't use those who make it with education as examples but only themselves. Like the first category of people I mentioned above, they also see education as a waste of time. They constantly say " Education does not guarantee success".


According to me, It is true that education does not guarantee success but it is one of the prerequisite of success.

SOURCE : http://eduregard.com/5-categories-people-say-education-not-guarantee-success/
shut up education dosent guarantee sucess, all the educated people in nigeria what have they offered to this nation,misery and poverty..

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Re: 5 Categories Of People That Say "Education Does Not Guarantee Success" by symbianDON(m): 6:59am On Jul 23, 2016
nmreports:
To put succinctly, formal education (The type practiced withing the 4 walls of a classroom) do not guarantee any form of success.
It is an age-old idea, babaric and an effort to cage people's potentials.
Historically, the richest people that have ever been are uneducated. Inventors of the past were thinkers and by the way success is relative.

Getting a gold medal could be success to one and marriage with beautiful children is success to another.

In my experience, what guarantees success is passion, idea, ability and perseverance.
come have a drink on me......you captured my exact views!

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Re: 5 Categories Of People That Say "Education Does Not Guarantee Success" by bimak: 7:00am On Jul 23, 2016
success on the long run comes down to achievements n financial freedom.

.....education without financial liberty ?

when somebody who is not as educated as you r will eventually dictate n determine ur pocket size n bank account alerts?

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Re: 5 Categories Of People That Say "Education Does Not Guarantee Success" by twise4242(f): 7:00am On Jul 23, 2016
EduRegard:
Drop your views below...
education is the best legacy
Re: 5 Categories Of People That Say "Education Does Not Guarantee Success" by olajizz01(m): 7:01am On Jul 23, 2016
EduRegard:
Drop your views below...
Op,u are on point,i have some people that always say that and most of them fall into categories one and two.
Re: 5 Categories Of People That Say "Education Does Not Guarantee Success" by pato255(m): 7:02am On Jul 23, 2016
I understand you. But I think you stretched some truths. Degrees are respected all over the world. The reason people without degrees in Western Europe and America are treated somewhat better than their Nigerian counterparts are here is probably that degrees are prohibitively expensive there and every inch worth it. So, not only have you got to shell out solid cash to get one, when you do, you really do acquire formidable skills to handle life. So, they may be more generous to their own “less privileged” kin because of that. Here in Nigeria though, degrees (however practically worthless) are status symbols. They put you in a sort of exclusive club of the so-called educated. And they make you something of a snob. Of course, the more exposed you get, the less uppity you are about it, especially when you come face to face with your stark inadequate skills for the world out there. However, that exclusive status is where the real value of our degrees are: it gets your foot in the door for all kinds of opportunities, whether jobs, networking or business. It gives you some confidence that someone will at least crack open the door to see if you’re worth anything at all. Without a degree, you fight for every last thing you get. You pit all your wits against the system to be seen. This may be why many entrepreneurs may also not possess degrees. They are often people who are forced to innovate to survive in the system. Survival didn’t use to be enough. Membership in the exclusive club of university degrees in Nigeria at one time used to mean credibility that translated to government appointments and lots of other things like it. It also meant access to certain fora and communities that people without degrees could not access. We still have at least vestiges of that, forms of that in our society. What changed is that people learned to beat the system, to forge certificates etc to get into extremely powerful positions and subsequently redefined the importance of actual skill and real knowledge. Sycophancy resulted and formal education began to lose value. Degrees became less and less meaningful since the knowledge was not being used and therefore not getting improved. And we learned that the better path out of ignominy was to make money however you can. So, today, money is what it’s about and certificates are only our nod to that exclusivity and pride that used to be attached to knowledge and skill. My approach to this reality is this: education, knowledge, skill is extremely important. Without it, we cannot build a good, sustainable society. And the skill must be proven. It is important to have reliable proof that people know what they say they know and can do what they claim they can do. So, we still need something like school and certificates. But we may need to innovate again to beat the rot in the current system. Coursera, MIT OpenCourseWare, edX among others may need be pointing us in the right direction for that. I personally believe that they are: that if we think hard about it, we can adapt these models to create new educational systems that are both extremely affordable, high quality, very reliable and flexible enough to accommodate Nigerian realities. We really could do with fewer 2Baba’s in Nigeria and more Einsteins, Feynmans, and Curies. It doesn’t hurt us to have actual thinkers, innovators and philosophers. Money-making tends to accompany these naturally. And not just temporarily. Such people build institutions and sustainable systems. That is not what we see in the example of 2Baba et al. I was listening to Vivaldi this evening and seriously wondering if Africa could have created that if Europe never interfered. There was a native composer from Nigeria for music like that, one Harcourt Whyte, but how many of us know him? Vivaldi is 18th century but we still thrill to his music. 2Baba may be long forgotten by the time my kids are teenagers. I wouldn’t discount degrees. I just wish Nigerian degrees actually meant something. Because they don’t, we have built a rotting economy and developed a very poor intellectual climate.

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Re: 5 Categories Of People That Say "Education Does Not Guarantee Success" by mrwonlasewonie: 7:02am On Jul 23, 2016
Success means different things to different people. Btw education isn't only formal

There are those with skilled education who can neither read or write

I was jisting with a Lagos politician and he was telling me education has nothing to do with politics other than being street wise,sound intellectually and know your history otherwise a politician who didn't even finish primary school will beat you hands down

Is patience Joe not a PhD holder.does it reflect in her character or level of refinement
is Jonah good luck not a PhD holder and even a lecturer. Did he make sound decisions

Are they different OR better than other leaders we have some of who don't even have a master's degree

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Re: 5 Categories Of People That Say "Education Does Not Guarantee Success" by Edusouls(m): 7:03am On Jul 23, 2016
lastmessenger:
If a man or woman is really educated he or she will succeed.
are you not educated, have u succeeded?
Re: 5 Categories Of People That Say "Education Does Not Guarantee Success" by hopeforcharles(m): 7:11am On Jul 23, 2016
virud:
For starters, there are broadly two forms of education; formal (conventional primary, secondary and university institutions of learning ) and informal (petty trading, apprenticeship etc ) education. For the records, success is not tied to any particular form of education.

Success as far as am concerned is a relative term, the accomplishment of an aim or purpose, and it is not tied to one particular event. Education and success are very different phenomenon. Any attempt to mix both is usually catastrophic.
Thank you don't mind that uneducated Op who think that education ends only in the classroom


On the other hand, Education is the the process of receiving or giving systematic instruction. By this simple definition, every person you've met seems to have attained a level / degree of education.

Education and success, what is the correlation, if any?
Now if education to you means seeing the four walls of a conventional university, secondary or primary institution, then, I make bold to say that your brand of education is not important to achieving success. Simply because education and literacy are not correlated.

Be that as it may, Education is very important to both your personal and professional life, in a number of significant ways! Depending on the level of success you’re seeking to achieve, the level of education may be relative, but the bottom line is, an education of some sort is often paramount to future success. And everyone is by some deliberate means educated. There's no such thing as illiteracy.

Everyone has got some sort of education, and am not being philosophical, I mean it literally. If you doubt, sight an example of anyone / group of persons you think are 'illiterates' and I would gladly point out their education.

Thank you don't mind that uneducated Op who think that education ends only in the classroom

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Re: 5 Categories Of People That Say "Education Does Not Guarantee Success" by Edusouls(m): 7:16am On Jul 23, 2016
[quote author=mrwonlasewonie post=47803801]Success means different things to different people. Btw education isn't only formal

There are those with skilled education who can neither read or write

I was jisting with a Lagos politician and he was telling me education has nothing to do with politics other than being street wise,sound intellectually and know your history otherwise a politician who didn't even finish primary school will beat you hands down [/quot tell them.e
Re: 5 Categories Of People That Say "Education Does Not Guarantee Success" by Gabrielo7125(m): 7:18am On Jul 23, 2016
Education first of all is to liberate you as an individual
Re: 5 Categories Of People That Say "Education Does Not Guarantee Success" by Bluffly: 7:18am On Jul 23, 2016
lastmessenger:
If a man or woman is really educated he or she will succeed.
So what happened to the many professors of Ekiti state

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Re: 5 Categories Of People That Say "Education Does Not Guarantee Success" by babyfaceafrica: 7:19am On Jul 23, 2016
mrwonlasewonie:
Success means different things to different people. Btw education isn't only formal

There are those with skilled education who can neither read or write

I was jisting with a Lagos politician and he was telling me education has nothing to do with politics other than being street wise,sound intellectually and know your history otherwise a politician who didn't even finish primary school will beat you hands down

Is patience Joe not a PhD holder.does it reflect in her character or level of refinement
is Jonah good luck not a PhD holder and even a lecturer. Did he make sound decisions

Are they different OR better than other leaders we have some of who don't even have a master's degree
patience jonathan is not a PhD holder,she has an honorary doctorate degree....nice points

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Re: 5 Categories Of People That Say "Education Does Not Guarantee Success" by babyfaceafrica: 7:19am On Jul 23, 2016
hopeforcharles:


Thank you don't mind that uneducated Op who think that education ends only in the classroom
you can make your point without. The harsh words
Re: 5 Categories Of People That Say "Education Does Not Guarantee Success" by May19th: 7:19am On Jul 23, 2016
EduRegard:
A new chorus has taken over the nation. The song of "Education does not guarantee success". I can precisely say that you must have come across it either from your close associates or those in your far edge.

There are a good number of people who often say "Education does not guarantee success". This article will unveil them.

1. The Illiterate.

The illiterate, as they are known, are ignorant of the power of education. The predominance of them see years spent in school as a waste of time.

2. People With Financial Crisis.

Another category of people who often say "Education does not guarantee success" are those who can't afford to send their children to higher institution or the victims of these parents. They say this to console themselves.

3. People who give up when seeking admission.

The indolent people have never run out of excuses. They always have something to say to defend their inabilities. After they could have applied for admission for a number of times and couldn't make it. They end up saying "Education does not guarantee success".

4. People with poor grades.

Students with low grades are often scare of their chances of graduating well. They mostly have the phobia that their certificates will be inoperable. A good clause they used to soothe themselves is "Education does not guarantee success".

5. Those who succeed without education.

Let me first congratulate this category of people for their achievements. This set of people at times discourage people from going to higher institution because of their success without the effect of education. They won't use those who make it with education as examples but only themselves. Like the first category of people I mentioned above, they also see education as a waste of time. They constantly say " Education does not guarantee success".


According to me, It is true that education does not guarantee success but it is one of the prerequisite of success.

SOURCE : http://eduregard.com/5-categories-people-say-education-not-guarantee-success/

Hey success and education are two different things. Non can guaranty each other.
Re: 5 Categories Of People That Say "Education Does Not Guarantee Success" by ojuu4u(m): 7:20am On Jul 23, 2016
ionsman:
Education does not guarantee success... I am a 2. 1 graduate, an M.sc holder and I'm not jobless.

Oya, update your list. undecided

because u ve job now, u ve succeded abi? How much do u ve in ur acount? In that ur establishment dnt u see people with lower qualificatns that engaged too? Even succesful than you do? People like you are misleading nigerians by letting them tinking they can only succed only by education, many of the so-called graduates remain jobless today owing to mentality that 'i am a graduate' oga education is just light that makes you to choose best descions in life. Achievement is only guaranteed by Almighty God

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Re: 5 Categories Of People That Say "Education Does Not Guarantee Success" by holluphemydavid(m): 7:20am On Jul 23, 2016
One point is missing out, d graduate who are yet to secure a job

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Re: 5 Categories Of People That Say "Education Does Not Guarantee Success" by Edusouls(m): 7:21am On Jul 23, 2016
Genea:
Oh yeah yeah, I'm here again
I agree with u but even those with good grades in sch also say education doesn't guarantee success cos they don't understand the value of their course...
shut up go and marry, this so called ego of education has given u women a false sense that u re fullfiled in life and that have left you species totaly lost in dispair.men even despise marrying these modern day women..cos they re no longer women,but calamity..

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Re: 5 Categories Of People That Say "Education Does Not Guarantee Success" by Edusouls(m): 7:24am On Jul 23, 2016
englishmart:
getting educated already is a huge success
continue deceiving ur self, dont go and help ur life,cos soon u see that u re nowhere...
Re: 5 Categories Of People That Say "Education Does Not Guarantee Success" by phoromighty(m): 7:25am On Jul 23, 2016
"Education is what is left in us after we've forgotten all we were taught in school"
-Sir W. Churchill

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Re: 5 Categories Of People That Say "Education Does Not Guarantee Success" by hopeforcharles(m): 7:27am On Jul 23, 2016
pato255:
I understand you. But I think you
stretched some truths. Degrees are
respected all over the world. The
reason people without degrees in
Western Europe and America are
treated somewhat better than their
Nigerian counterparts are here is
probably that degrees are prohibitively
expensive there and every inch worth
it. So, not only have you got to shell out
solid cash to get one, when you do, you
really do acquire formidable skills to
handle life. So, they may be more
generous to their own “less privileged”
kin because of that.
Here in Nigeria though, degrees
(however practically worthless) are
status symbols. They put you in a sort
of exclusive club of the so-called
educated. And they make you
something of a snob. Of course, the
more exposed you get, the less uppity
you are about it, especially when you
come face to face with your stark
inadequate skills for the world out
there.
However, that exclusive status is where
the real value of our degrees are: it gets
your foot in the door for all kinds of
opportunities, whether jobs,
networking or business. It gives you
some confidence that someone will at
least crack open the door to see if
you’re worth anything at all.
Without a degree, you fight for every
last thing you get. You pit all your wits
against the system to be seen. This may
be why many entrepreneurs may also
not possess degrees. They are often
people who are forced to innovate to
survive in the system.
Survival didn’t use to be enough.
Membership in the exclusive club of
university degrees in Nigeria at one
time used to mean credibility that
translated to government
appointments and lots of other things
like it. It also meant access to certain
fora and communities that people
without degrees could not access. We
still have at least vestiges of that, forms
of that in our society.
What changed is that people learned to
beat the system, to forge certificates etc
to get into extremely powerful
positions and subsequently redefined
the importance of actual skill and real
knowledge. Sycophancy resulted and
formal education began to lose value.
Degrees became less and less
meaningful since the knowledge was
not being used and therefore not
getting improved. And we learned that
the better path out of ignominy was to
make money however you can.
So, today, money is what it’s about and
certificates are only our nod to that
exclusivity and pride that used to be
attached to knowledge and skill.
My approach to this reality is this:
education, knowledge, skill is
extremely important. Without it, we
cannot build a good, sustainable
society. And the skill must be proven.
It is important to have reliable proof
that people know what they say they
know and can do what they claim they
can do. So, we still need something like
school and certificates. But we may
need to innovate again to beat the rot
in the current system.
Coursera, MIT OpenCourseWare, edX
among others may need be pointing us
in the right direction for that. I
personally believe that they are: that if
we think hard about it, we can adapt
these models to create new educational
systems that are both extremely
affordable, high quality, very reliable
and flexible enough to accommodate
Nigerian realities.
We really could do with fewer 2Baba’s
in Nigeria and more Einsteins,
Feynmans, and Curies. It doesn’t hurt
us to have actual thinkers, innovators
and philosophers. Money-making tends
to accompany these naturally. And not
just temporarily. Such people build
institutions and sustainable systems.
That is not what we see in the example
of 2Baba et al. I was listening to
Vivaldi this evening and seriously
wondering if Africa could have created
that if Europe never interfered. There
was a native composer from Nigeria
for music like that, one Harcourt
Whyte, but how many of us know him?
Vivaldi is 18th century but we still
thrill to his music. 2Baba may be long
forgotten by the time my kids are
teenagers.
I wouldn’t discount degrees. I just wish
Nigerian degrees actually meant
something. Because they don’t, we have
built a rotting economy and developed
a very poor intellectual climate.
I see so much points in what you are saying, especially the part when u suggest learning links like cousera, Edx, Mit and other online learning mediums, But one important aspect to note is that education is a form of learn maybe in an organised form with certified paper , while out the too is a form of learning but with practicality and no certified form of accreditation, but I will strongly disagree that the out there form of learning is no education.
Re: 5 Categories Of People That Say "Education Does Not Guarantee Success" by edusucces(m): 7:28am On Jul 23, 2016
Education is a stepping stone to success
Re: 5 Categories Of People That Say "Education Does Not Guarantee Success" by hopeforcharles(m): 7:28am On Jul 23, 2016
babyfaceafrica:
you can make your point without. The harsh words
It depends on the context you view my words, i feel they are not harsh except you have low receptive tolerance level to direct words.
Re: 5 Categories Of People That Say "Education Does Not Guarantee Success" by Princealex1(m): 7:30am On Jul 23, 2016
[quote author=virud post=47801542]For starters, there are broadly two forms of education; formal (conventional primary, secondary and university institutions of learning ) and informal (petty trading, apprenticeship etc ) education. For the records, success is not tied to any particular form of education.

Success as far as am concerned is a relative term, the accomplishment of an aim or purpose, and it is not tied to one particular event. Education and success are very different phenomenon. Any attempt to mix both is usually catastrophic.


On the other hand, Education is the the process of receiving or giving systematic instruction. By this simple definition, every person you've met seems to have attained a level / degree of education.


An illiterate isn't one who is uneducated but one who cant read nor write,so yes there are illiterates,even educated illiterates.

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Re: 5 Categories Of People That Say "Education Does Not Guarantee Success" by palsenator(m): 7:32am On Jul 23, 2016
What about people that have lived before formal education was introduced and they lived in wealth? Formal education is important and can as a matter of fact lead you to success but don't forget that you can still be successful even without it. Don't think people who don't have formal education can never do good. It is wrong.

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Re: 5 Categories Of People That Say "Education Does Not Guarantee Success" by Pchidexy(m): 7:35am On Jul 23, 2016
Tobitrueman:

Seconded.
What are you seconding? Illiteracy means not able to read and write.
Re: 5 Categories Of People That Say "Education Does Not Guarantee Success" by whitebeard(m): 7:40am On Jul 23, 2016
virud:
For starters, there are broadly two forms of education; formal (conventional primary, secondary and university institutions of learning ) and informal (petty trading, apprenticeship etc ) education. For the records, success is not tied to any particular form of education.

Success as far as am concerned is a relative term, the accomplishment of an aim or purpose, and it is not tied to one particular event. Education and success are very different phenomenon. Any attempt to mix both is usually catastrophic.


On the other hand, Education is the the process of receiving or giving systematic instruction. By this simple definition, every person you've met seems to have attained a level / degree of education.

Education and success, what is the correlation, if any?
Now if education to you means seeing the four walls of a conventional university, secondary or primary institution, then, I make bold to say that your brand of education is not important to achieving success. Simply because education and literacy are not correlated.

Be that as it may, Education is very important to both your personal and professional life, in a number of significant ways! Depending on the level of success you’re seeking to achieve, the level of education may be relative, but the bottom line is, an education of some sort is often paramount to future success. And everyone is by some deliberate means educated. There's no such thing as illiteracy.

Everyone has got some sort of education, and am not being philosophical, I mean it literally. If you doubt, sight an example of anyone / group of persons you think are 'illiterates' and I would gladly point out their education.
you said it all

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Re: 5 Categories Of People That Say "Education Does Not Guarantee Success" by Nobody: 7:40am On Jul 23, 2016
virud:
For starters, there are broadly two forms of education; formal (conventional primary, secondary and university institutions of learning ) and informal (petty trading, apprenticeship etc ) education. For the records, success is not tied to any particular form of education.

Success as far as am concerned is a relative term, the accomplishment of an aim or purpose, and it is not tied to one particular event. Education and success are very different phenomenon. Any attempt to mix both is usually catastrophic.


On the other hand, Education is the the process of receiving or giving systematic instruction. By this simple definition, every person you've met seems to have attained a level / degree of education.

Education and success, what is the correlation, if any?
Now if education to you means seeing the four walls of a conventional university, secondary or primary institution, then, I make bold to say that your brand of education is not important to achieving success. Simply because education and literacy are not correlated.

Be that as it may, Education is very important to both your personal and professional life, in a number of significant ways! Depending on the level of success you’re seeking to achieve, the level of education may be relative, but the bottom line is, an education of some sort is often paramount to future success. And everyone is by some deliberate means educated. There's no such thing as illiteracy.

Everyone has got some sort of education, and am not being philosophical, I mean it literally. If you doubt, sight an example of anyone / group of persons you think are 'illiterates' and I would gladly point out their education.
Do you really take the OP serious who cannot distinguish between schooling and education? What he/she wrote there is bullshit to me. Ey be like sey he no understand sey success doesn't have to do with just attending a school and getting certificate. Education is the key! But then, I believe in one thing- If you do not want to be treated as a leper, do not venture into the world without having a good communicative competence in your country's lingual franca and as far as Nigeria is concerned, our lingual franca is English Language. And Speaking English language well/fluently has more to do with self development/socialization than those we learnt in school. grin #My-Opinion

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