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Re: Seeking A Muslim Solution To Islamist Terrorism by DevotedOne(m): 2:47pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
Bismillaah ir Rahmaan ir Rahiim. As salaamu alaykum. You all should know that ISIS is telling those now wanting to join them, to commit crimes where they are presently; so stay alert! It appears that ISIS is no longer recruiting trainees. ISIS, knows that its end is near. It is imploding, falling apart. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnEka6wYieI What happened when the Prophet Muhammad died? - Sayed Moustafa Al-Qazwini https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6EJodoJBJ4 How Was Islam Hijacked by Dictators? Wassalaam. DevotedOne |
Re: Seeking A Muslim Solution To Islamist Terrorism by Nobody: 2:59pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
nijabazaar:Lol...why did you set it at 1900,bloody hypocrite .Even at then,you still have Lords salvation army and co. 2 Likes |
Re: Seeking A Muslim Solution To Islamist Terrorism by Bimpe29: 3:09pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
Seun: It is good to learn the fact before assuming, and to understand why before passing judgement. However, Islam does not enjoin Muslims to kill, destroy or cause any form of harm. Allah commands Muslims to ''Help one another in righteousness and piety, but help you not one another in sin and transgression'' Qur'an 5, Verse 2 Those who kills and incite others to do same in the name of Islam are disobeying Allah's commandment, hence they are not Muslims. They make the unsuspecting persons see Islam as a religion of terror, destruction and pains. 2 Likes |
Re: Seeking A Muslim Solution To Islamist Terrorism by Nobody: 3:12pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
buJu234:Do you have a comprehension problem We are talking of terrorism here,you're talking about whether He(SAW) fought wars.He was also an head of state,so fighting wars if necessary,is also his responsibility,so don't go try twisting things. buJu234:Well Muhammad(SAW) told us to either forgive or at most "return the slap back"(by seeking justice in a court) and not returning the slap back to the innocent persons relative or tribe like the jews do.Now what makes the jews any different from the terrorists whom are also simply returning the slap back in like manner? 2 Likes |
Re: Seeking A Muslim Solution To Islamist Terrorism by quickly: 3:30pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
Presbulg:Because the world is full of fools. Arabs have passion for there culture and they want to spread it by hook or crook. Which involves deceiving the ppl that Islam is a religion wheras it's a cult of arabia They spread it by violence and rape. They will go into a town kill all the men and rape the women and then cover them with bedsheet. AAfricns love to be dominated that is they feel ashamed of there culture. African needs less of both abrahamic religions to progress. The brain washing is so ingrained by these Arabs and Jews Look at Hausa they have lost there culture slavery of the mind 1 Like |
Re: Seeking A Muslim Solution To Islamist Terrorism by Presbulg(m): 4:01pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
quickly: Pls you're getting it wrong. Arabs did not own or create Islam. Islam has always been since Adam was created. Islam is not in any competition with any religion. Islam is an arabic word meaning submission and obedience to the will of Almighty God. That's why we say everyone is born a muslim (one who submits and obey God). And there's difference between religion and culture too. Just because someone bears and arab name doesn't make he or she a muslim. Almighty God said in the Qu'ran - ' There's should be no compulsion in religion'. Nobody should be forced into worshiping HIM. So anybody saying he's fighting cuz of God killing, raping, stealing , destroying things would be judged on the day of judgment. Killing is a very grave sin in the Qu'ran. So whatever they are doing be it Boko Haram, Isis et al, are not allowed in Islam. I hope you get what I'm saying ?. 2 Likes |
Re: Seeking A Muslim Solution To Islamist Terrorism by OneOpinion: 4:03pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
#prayforSyria cos just this week, US & Russian drones killed 85+ civilians and it was described as just a "mistake". the western oppression and double standard constitutes daylight terrorism. but as long as its the govt, its okay since in fact you are at the mercy of their media to tell what is right or wrong. the just recently published chilcot report posit that blair had no business being in iraq. do u know what iraq invasion left behind... what do you call that? you get so quick calling Islam into question and i wonder if you do same for the west. unfortunately this brandishes your prejudice that's vigorously aided by western media propaganda. caveat: there is no single solution to a quagmire of this nature. I'm also inclined to pristine Islam education, my contention remains that the sole cause of terrorism lies in the picture...just a pity Islam is used as a balaclava partly because the victims themselves are predominantly Muslims. and in the end we realize that its politics and not religion. 3 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Seeking A Muslim Solution To Islamist Terrorism by quickly: 4:10pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
OneOpinion: Isis supporter always quick to look at other peoples plight. U will say that Nigerian army is doing the same in Siambisa forest I can bet u are also a boko haram supporter by default. Do u know what Isis is doing to yazidi people. The yazidi are non Islamic tribe in Syria and Isis is murdering them in thousands and selling there women as sex slaves. Isis is supported by Saudi and Syria government invited Russia for assistance the bigotry in Islam makes u want to Play victim all the time. Arabians need to be grateful of how far they spread their culture. Enough is a enough we don't want it anymore |
Re: Seeking A Muslim Solution To Islamist Terrorism by OneOpinion: 4:47pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
quickly: i am too learned for this... wish you well 1 Like |
Re: Seeking A Muslim Solution To Islamist Terrorism by quickly: 5:02pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
OneOpinion: That is the problem u are already brain washed that the truth dey pepper u. I will advise u too remain as curious as a child and question everything. Even though that is prohibited in Islam (Independent thought) HOW TO KNOW WHEN U ARE HEARING THE TRUTH- ( BODY GO DEY START TO DEY PEPPER U) MR learned fellow who claimed russian are killing syrian The Russian military intervention in the Syrian Civil War began in September 2015 after an official request by the Syrian government for military help against rebel and jihadist groups. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_military_intervention_in_the_Syrian_Civil_War I'm also inclined to pristine Islam education,-- Islamic education has done jack shit for humanity apart from violence. IS it Islamic education we are using to communicate now even though u might be in another part of the globe. 2 Likes |
Re: Seeking A Muslim Solution To Islamist Terrorism by sino(m): 5:10pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
Seun: First and foremost, the simple answer to your question should be NO! There is nothing in Islam that encourages terrorism, as rightly established by previous posts. Since most non-Muslims would have preconceived notions about Islam and Muslims, I see it rather beneficial to buttress the fact that terrorism is not peculiar to Muslims, by stating clearly that Islam is different from Muslims, for Muslims are also humans, and being human has its peculiar characteristics, therefore, there would always be conflicts, crisis and contestation, and in most cases, this is as a result of seeking political authority and what have you among other worldly aspirations of man. Man would use any of the methods available to him to achieve legitimacy, and it can be through violence or through other subtle means, depending on his capacity financially, numerically, academically, socially, intellectually, politically and even spiritually. Terrorism can come equally from an oppressor and from the oppressed;I dare say, terrorism is an orphan, a crime which is not exclusive to a religion, tribe, ethnicity or race. If we keep tagging Islam and Muslims as being terrorists and supporters of terrorism, and shy away from other groups of people who are also terrorists and other forms of terrorism which are prevalent in our society, then we are hypocrites, no lasting solution can be found with such disposition and approach. In a book review published on Guardian newspaper, the below point was made and I believe it to be the proper understanding of the root course of global terrorism: “…Entitled “A De-Mystification of the Pervasive Understanding of Terrorism” Chapter three rejects and debunks the notion that acts of terrorism are religiously based. Since every religion advocates for tolerance, peace and peaceful coexistence, it cannot and should not be argued that acts of terrorism are based on any religion doctrine. Rather, the author argues, acts of terrorism are both theoretically and practically traceable to structural existential and perceptual realities of domination and rebellious resistance. He is point blank, noting that terrorism should be viewed within the nexus of global asymmetric or unequal hegemonic power configuration. Specifically, reference is made to acts of state terrorism as practiced during the Cold War, where training was given to some groups or individuals who were later deployed in fighting proxy wars in places such as Angola, Apartheid South Africa, Nicaragua and Mozambique. According to the author, the notion of terrorism embraces extreme actions that deliberately involve destruction of life and property in order to effect social and political changes and in effect terrorism may also involve a state, but this might attract different appellations. America’s war against Iraq under Sadam Hussein is purely a case of state terrorism per excellence. America’s foreign policy during the Cold War, especially against the Soviet Union and its allies took the form of state terrorism…” (Rasheed I. Akinyemi “How Politics, Not Religion, Brews Terrorism” Rev. of Nexus of The State and Legitimation Crisis by Prof. Adebayo Ninalowo. The Guardian Newspaper, 3 April, 2016:31. Print.) Muslim Scholars, groups, societies and individuals have all condemned terrorism as not being Islamic; they provide evidences from the Qur’an and hadith, as well as the history of Prophet Muhammad (SAW). If we still experience these forms of global terrorism, after strong condemnation from Islamic authorities from all over the world, then it should be obvious that terrorism is beyond scriptural recommendations, but rather terrorism is as a result of deep rooted social problems of which poverty, illiteracy, corruption, injustice, oppression and bad leadership are at the front burner. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Seeking A Muslim Solution To Islamist Terrorism by OneOpinion: 5:34pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
sino: way too scholarly and also offering a thought provoking insight. God bless! |
Re: Seeking A Muslim Solution To Islamist Terrorism by Akinkunmi0777(m): 5:45pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
Let us understand that not only muslim are terrorist, even christian they are involve. But one thing i want to say is that never mention muslim only as terrorist, what we need is how to eradicate terrorist. 1 Like |
Re: Seeking A Muslim Solution To Islamist Terrorism by Akinkunmi0777(m): 5:46pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
In the HISTORY of the world, who
has KILLED maximum
INNOCENT
human beings
1) "Hitler"
Do you know who he was He was a Christian, but media will
never call Christians terrorists.
2) "Joseph Stalin called as Uncle
Joe".
He has killed 20 million human
beings including 14.5 million were starved to death.
Was he a Muslim
3) "Mao Tse Tsung (China)"
He has killed 14 to 20 million
human beings.
Was he a Muslim 4) "Benito Mussolini (Italy)"
He has killed 400 thousand human
beings.
Was he a Muslim
5) "Ashoka" In Kalinga Battle
He has killed 100 thousand human beings.
Was he a Muslim
6) Embargo put by George Bush in
Iraq,
1/2 million children
has been killed in Iraq alone!!! Imagine these people are never
called terrorists by the media.
Why
Today the majority of the non-
muslims are afraid by hearing the
words "JIHAD". Jihad is an Arabic word which
comes from root Arabic word
"JAHADA" which means "TO
STRIVE" or "TO STRUGGLE"
against evil and for justice. It does
not mean killing innocents.
The difference is we stand against
evil, not with evil".
You still think that ISLAM is the
problem
1. The First World War, 17 million dead
(caused by non-Muslim).
2. The Second World War, 50-55
million dead (caused by non-
Muslim).
3. Nagasaki atomic bombs 200000 dead
(caused by non-Muslim).
4. The War in Vietnam, over 5
million dead (caused by non-
Muslim).
5. The War in Bosnia/Kosovo, over 5,00,000 dead (caused by non-
Muslim).
6. The War in Iraq (so far)
12,000,000 deaths
(caused by non-Muslim).
7. Afghanistan, Iraq, Palestine, Burma etc (caused by non-
Muslim).
8. In Cambodia 1975-1979, almost
3 million deaths (caused by non-
Muslim).
"MUSLIMS ARE NOT TERRORISTS
AND
TERRORISTS ARE NOT
MUSLIMS."
Please remove first double
standards on Killings. Please share as much as you
can..... |
Re: Seeking A Muslim Solution To Islamist Terrorism by Akinkunmi0777(m): 5:47pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
Pls let think wisely, that is my prove. |
Re: Seeking A Muslim Solution To Islamist Terrorism by quickly: 5:58pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
Akinkunmi0777: Hilter was a racist and a facists. He was killing in the name of skin colour and aryan supeiority never did he mention that he was killing for Jesus but the Islamists are killing for allah and mohammed. A big difference Also hilter was had hatred for Jews and was Killing Jews primarily 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Seeking A Muslim Solution To Islamist Terrorism by Akinkunmi0777(m): 6:12pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
quickly:is he not a christian? |
Re: Seeking A Muslim Solution To Islamist Terrorism by Akinkunmi0777(m): 6:26pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
I am follow this topic since two or three days before, but i don't want to argue already, but you have turn it to something else, every religion has killer but that doesn't mean he is a bonafize member of the particular religion. Cc: sissie, wizeboy, daprince098, baba11, sodiksan |
Re: Seeking A Muslim Solution To Islamist Terrorism by quickly: 6:55pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
Akinkunmi0777: Hilter war was for the following 1.Ideological - Racialist 'scientific' policies argued that the Aryan race was superior to any other race. - In order to protect Nazi Germany from socialism, Hitler had to attack the breeding ground (Comintern and the USSR). - Lebensraum for the Germans. 2. Political - The Nazi Party could not claim political sovereignty and supremacy over German life, if a portion of German life was in the hands of Jewish bankers, civil servants and bureaucrats. - By forcing other countries to accept the Nazis as their leaders, it strengthened the Party at home in Germany. - Uniting all German peoples was a primary objective of Hitler's 3. Economic - Since 1933 Germany's national spending had increased dramatically, with a disproportionate rise in taxation. It was only a matter of time before the national debt caught up with them. Germany therefore, had to look to invading other countries in order to gain financially from them. No religion or spread of deity 2 Likes |
Re: Seeking A Muslim Solution To Islamist Terrorism by Akinkunmi0777(m): 7:42pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
Quickly, answer my question, is he not a christian. |
Re: Seeking A Muslim Solution To Islamist Terrorism by Lagusta(m): 10:34pm On Jul 22, 2016 |
nijabazaar: A typical Nigerian...... I was expecting u to research more on your own query, but you want me to spoon-feed you..... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism And in that article..... Christian militia groups destroyed almost all mosques in the Central African Republic unrest. In 2014, Amnesty International reported several massacres committed by the Anti-balaka against Muslim civilians, forcing thousands of Muslims to flee the country. Other sources report incidents of Muslims being cannibalized. Now what do u have to say about that?? And if you bring up another hypocritical statement I would never answer you again Oh, and in case you say "this is Africa joor, what of other European countries" well.... https://www.google.com.ng/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.rt.com/news/323822-belgium-mosque-christian-state/&ved=0ahUKEwjGr-bPgYjOAhXsJ8AKHXKBD74QFggvMAU&usg=AFQjCNH7aN6GVRWNE8OzrsLZ-LoZCkWv1A&sig2=LAqOSi6f6s7b0jWNKg9bdg Oya read... |
Re: Seeking A Muslim Solution To Islamist Terrorism by quickly: 12:41am On Jul 23, 2016 |
Presbulg: Be deceiving yourself or will I say you are naive or u feel other ppl are gullible to not know bullshyte when they see it No 1 Islam was created by Mohammed and he is their prophet no 2 Mohammed converted an Arab ancestral worship of his father Abdullah into Islam In that religion they worship a black stone which in essence is debris of a fallen meteor but ppl understand that back then that could be seen as superstitious as man is currently in space ppl know more about outer space and other planets. The God of the Quran may have said no compulsion but in the same Quran he said kill them were u find them. The same Quran also talk about so much other violence which ppl are practicing in todays world. he even promise them women with big pointed breast in the after life? (imagine) etc etc Turning women into masquerade and preaching hate of non . There are other religions in the world why always this islam ? Chinese have their own religion which is Taoism Very soon if they start cultural imperialism u would hear stupid Africans defending them just as Africans depend Arabs Islam as a religion will come into a household and divide brothers Take India for example Islam Entered India from the north and cause so much confusion they had to split the country into two which is Pakistan and India Today Pakistan is a worse off country Look at Sudan And the list goes on All I am is that Islam is a cultural imperialism of Arabs They take over people culture and impose theirs and then u must pray facing their stone deity in Mecca The real God is not in one place he is everywhere He might not even exist but he is definitely not in one place 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Seeking A Muslim Solution To Islamist Terrorism by MIKOLOWISKA: 7:28am On Jul 23, 2016 |
Seun:it's just the Muslim doing their own version of the Crusades 1400yrs after the fact. nsa young religious agree De spirit dem it's a phase it'll pass when their Messiah comes to preach peace and cowards like you stop kowtowing to them by using threat of plain fake ''I am a Muslim banner in pols post for fear of rolling them up the only ppl collect ppl respect is retaliators who treat their fuckup |
Re: Seeking A Muslim Solution To Islamist Terrorism by BetaThings: 11:40am On Jul 23, 2016 |
MakeWeTalk: Tell me the most peaceful religion |
Re: Seeking A Muslim Solution To Islamist Terrorism by BetaThings: 11:48am On Jul 23, 2016 |
DevotedOne: Be devoted to the truth! You have your own sectarian agenda in this matter When did ISIS come into being? Shias, backed by Iran, started suicide bombing in the Muslim countries I challenge you to deny it 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Seeking A Muslim Solution To Islamist Terrorism by BetaThings: 12:46pm On Jul 23, 2016 |
quickly: Are you not a Nigerian? - you will accuse others of ignorance when you are worse quickly: Can we try and post verses from the Bible and Qur'an on violence? We will now rank the verses by number and the brutality of the violence quickly:We don't need to imagine - the verses in your Songs of Solomon are enough quickly:Have you seen a Catholic nun before? Are they masquerades too? Can you spot hypocrisy? quickly: No, sir - it is the Bible that has said that I have come to set a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law.Mathew 10 : 35 I have heard Yorubas complaining about religion being used to divide them Who is protesting in the SW now - Is it not Christians who have become radicalised opposing Hijab when it has always been accommodated in the SW quickly:No, we should look at Christian South Sudan I hope you are aware that people are saying Nigerians should be evacuated from there quickly:Christian Mexico is the kidnapping capital of the World Yes, the list goes on quickly:And the cross brandished by Christians for their worship? 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Seeking A Muslim Solution To Islamist Terrorism by DevotedOne(m): 3:34pm On Jul 23, 2016 |
Bismillaah ir Rahmaan ir Rahiim. As salaamu alaykum. My agenda is to bring the truth; and, to awaken all, to such truth. When did ISIS, come into being? ISIS, split-off from al qaeda. Al qaeda turned Libya, into a failed state. Remember? It is apparent that they want to do the same in Syria, and Iraq. The Covert Origins of ISIS America Created Al-Qaeda and the ISIS Terror Group By Garikai Chengu Turning to Friends of God & Muslims Reject ISIS You believe Iran, started attacking Muslim countries. Please present your proof. Thanks. BetaThings: Wassalaam. DevotedOne |
Re: Seeking A Muslim Solution To Islamist Terrorism by Empiree: 6:21pm On Jul 23, 2016 |
Re: Seeking A Muslim Solution To Islamist Terrorism by quickly: 9:04pm On Jul 23, 2016 |
BetaThings: That's how u would.be defending Arabs like slave. The truth of the matter is u will try hard before u see someone killing in Jesus name. U might 0.1% but for Muslims killing in the name of Allah that happens everyday. Even a child that was born yesterday know that Qur'an is full of satanic texts that turn normal ppl into demons. Action speak louder than words. Judge ppl by there actions. In recent years the amount of violence inspired by islam is alarming an only a colluder will keep quiet. it's not about posting text be cos we will be hear till tomorrow but the resultant effects of those texts. when was the last time u heard someone kill an innocent person to propagate islam? U will try hard maybe 1 or 2 cases if any at all Catholic nuns u talk about are posted into seminary and they don't marry. When was the last time u saw a small girl dressed as a nun to go to school. It's a personal decision for adults u would not find any girl less than a teenager being a nun EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT THERE IS CRIME IN THE WORLD WITH THE REAL CAUSE BEEN POVERTY. BUT WHEN THE CRIME IS MOTIvated by religious texts and a final objective of propagating then u need to ask u r self if the god u r worshipping is not the devil in disguise |
Re: Seeking A Muslim Solution To Islamist Terrorism by BetaThings: 11:28pm On Jul 23, 2016 |
quickly:Who are you defending? The truth of the matter is u will try hard before u see someone killing in Jesus name. U might 0.1% but for Muslims killing in the name of Allah that happens everyday.He who knows not and knows that he knows not is a ......... What did America do in Iraq - use youtube and search - Palin says Iraq war is a mission from God American soldiers killed Muslims in the name of Jesus - Use google and search KKK kills blacks, IRA was terror organisation, Kony killed was a terrorist - all these kill for Christianity Child witches are burnt daily by Nigerian Christians in the name of religion And our own Rev King? They may not do it everyday but when Christians kill, they do so in large numbers because it is their countries that carry out the attacks So you don't need rag-tag terrorists American soldiers and drones can do in 7 days what ISIS has been doing for years Christians play in the really big league when they want to kill - millions quickly:Don't take the word of a child born yesterday Do analysis - it does not hurt to read but I know that Africans have real fear of reading. But I assure you that there is no harm in it A study has been done - the Bible is more violent than the Qur'an quickly:Alarming by number but minuscule by number of casualties compared to what Christians have done and are gearing to further do quickly: we can wait - try it if you have the facts quickly: You mentioned masquerade. Did you not? So did you do a census to seek opinion of the Hijabites? No. typical Nigerian. Pronouncing on things they know nothing about Some of them don't know the Geography and people of Nigeria and they post authoritatively One was calling Udoh and Effiong Igbo Yes the nuns need to ponder over a life of celibacy. A child cannot do that. But the dressing is what you brought up. Please stick to the issue quickly:You are always attempting to speak for everybody when in truth you are hardly qualified to speak for yourself What is worse, you are not even aware of that deficiency quickly:You are always tying yourself up in knots Sad to be a Nigerian when you too claim to be one This is just an example of what your guys did to spread Christianity and influence Pizarro sent out a priest to exhort the emperor to accept the sovereignty of Christianity and Emperor Charles V., and Atahuallpa refused, flinging a Bible handed to him to the ground in disgust. Pizarro immediately ordered an attack. Buckling under an assault by the terrifying Spanish artillery, guns, and cavalry (all of which were alien to the Incas),thousands of Incas were slaughtered, and the emperor was captured http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/pizarro-executes-last-inca-emperor http://www.vanguardngr.com/2016/07/20-injured-houses-razed-assemblies-god-factions-clash-kaduna/ 20 injured, houses razed as Assemblies of God factions clash in Kaduna You need to read about the Wars of Religion, The Gunpowder plot and similar stuff |
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