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Re: Seeking A Muslim Solution To Islamist Terrorism by Seun(m): 11:44pm On Jul 23, 2016 |
Thanks for your responses. Can we talk more about the solutions? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Seeking A Muslim Solution To Islamist Terrorism by BetaThings: 12:47am On Jul 24, 2016 |
Iran is the originator of suicide bombing - ISIS and co just copied the methodology Everywhere Iran has a foothold, there is always a parallel government Lebanon - Shia terror group Hezbollah is stronger than the Lebanese Army Iraq - various militias loyal to Iran must be appeased in the power equation. No Iraqi leader can defy them Yemen - Iran-backed Houthi rebels control the country Syria - Iran is supplying soldiers from other shia countries esp hezbollah from Lebanon to help Basahr Assad In Nigeria, when Zakzaky was attacked, he called Iran The following day, Nigerian Ambassador to Iran was summoned to the Foreign Ministry in Tehran The President of Iran called President Buhari to protest and demand compensation for the Shias Officially Zakzaky is not an Iranian, so why should we have Iran threatening Nigeria over this matter We know that Kaduna state government claims that where the Shias built their Husseiniyat was not lawfully acquired and was not given approval To date the Shias in Nigeria has neither produced a C of O or building permit/approval for the place When Nigerian Shias were accused of running a parallel government, they did not deny; they justified it by saying every Chief (eg a king) is a state within a state : a King can declare curfew But they did not say that the King relies on the policefor security while Shias rely on their own security My point - Shias constitute a clear and present danger -a group excellent at propaganda brought up on a diet of hate and determination for revenge with loyalty to a foreign government cannot be easily defeated Any conflict with Iran will trigger terror attack on Nigeria, should the Iranians desire - Iran has nothing to lose Iran does not allow protest in its own country - no militias, no protest, but they sponsor same all over the world Why? Iran wants to export their revolution of 1979 to every part of the world with overall head being the supreme leader of Iran, currently Ayatollah Khamenei What about BH and ISIS - these are not government funded. They can be cut off with hardwork BH is not so powerful as we have seen and ISIS is losing ground - they both need to be powerfully fought and their supply chain will be cut However there is a caveat - Young Muslims must not be given any reason to feel aggrieved IPOB and NDA are justifying violence citing oppression and neglect Blacks are shooting soldiers in the US The more Christians continue to push back on rights due Muslims (eg Hijab) and scorn them at every turn, the easier it is for them to become radicalised - BH has only a limited number of soldiers, we should not unwittingly help them recruit more BTW this same topic has been raised repeatedly by Muslims on NL but typically the people who delight in bashing Islam never allowed meaningful suggestion to emerge because without terrorism they would not be able to indulge in their favourite pastime How did terrorism begin in the Islamic World - see videos of how the Shias started it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMAu2B2Rz20 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvRRzkkPdsw 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Seeking A Muslim Solution To Islamist Terrorism by DevotedOne(m): 3:28pm On Jul 24, 2016 |
Bismillaah ir Rahmaan ir Rahiim. As salaamu alaykum. Terrorism exists in the Muslim community because some who identify as Muslim, have multiple agendas affixed to their lives. Unity between the various religions, and sects is seemingly unworkable, due mainly to infiltration. Greed, is difficult to deal with in the world that we live in. When I was attending grade school, there was a difference between a want, and a need. That has been changed to the point that there is barely any difference between the two words. Terrorism is being passed down from the worlds war making killers. These war manufacturing murderers, have come full circle and are now preparing to capture the global population, body and soul. They have their proxies in place; ISIS, al qaeda, etcetera, terrorizing the masses. However, the larger problem is from the NWO. It is believed that the New World Order, NWO, has a six thousand year history, and it is in a now, or never predicament. It is a stupid situation where only the wealthy will rule. Trillionaires, billionaires, and (maybe) millionaires only. Hence, the present need for all of the senseless terrorism. Seun: Does anyone know how to rid the world of the New World Order? Wassalaam. DevotedOne |
Re: Seeking A Muslim Solution To Islamist Terrorism by DevotedOne(m): 3:54pm On Jul 24, 2016 |
Bismillaah ir Rahmaan ir Rahiim. As salaamu alaykum. BetaThings, I believe you missed the post by Akinkunmi0777; see below. Akinkunmi0777: Wassalaam. DevotedOne. |
Re: Seeking A Muslim Solution To Islamist Terrorism by quickly: 5:11pm On Jul 24, 2016 |
BetaThings: my friend u are myopic when i say defending arabs. obviously u do not understand the big picture that islam is Arab imperialism to subvert other people culture. For example a calabar man goes to saudi arabia and says every body must eat 404 and edikaikong, pray only in Efik, dance etighi and ban consumption of chicken. directly disobedience means u have offended God and death is the punishment. That is cultural imperialism which the arabs do to africans every second. And also all males must bear Efik names. Now 2nd point u guys always like to look at other ppl problems and ignore the one in ur backyard. Boko HAram killing innocent civilians and soldiders all in the name of religion texts inspired from the quran doesnt concern u but u aim to look at america fighting in iraq. How do u explain a group of nigerians killing inspired from texts contained in quran and this is happening every where. America fighting iraq was based on terrority and authority rather than christainity. Iraq invaded Kuwait and Saudi Arabia was too scared and invited America to push iraq back after iraq disobeyed every other country. The second war was a continuation of the first war. But u will be lying to urself if u think it was about religion. From the way u are sounding u obviously cannot differentatite between between criminality from poverty and criminality from religious instructions. When a religion orders u to kill others to terrorise them then u have to question if that is truly god. Normally when ppl commit crime they say na devil but some ppl are now saying they are commit crime to please God. Even though those ppl may sound mad and delusional are u not going to dig deeper into their claims. Listen to this words by former president of islamic youth of palestine for more solutions LIKE I SAID IF WORDS START TO PEPPER UR BODY THEN KNOW IT HAS UNADULTERATED CONCENTRATED TRUTH IN IT https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOXQFkpueJk 2 Likes |
Re: Seeking A Muslim Solution To Islamist Terrorism by quickly: 5:25pm On Jul 24, 2016 |
DevotedOne: NWO is a term coined by journalists. There is no such organisation persay the real new world order is instant communication between people thousands or millions of miles apart. Faster travel Digital money Space travel Driverless cars Mass murdering weapons Drones Watch the movie minority report for idea of nwo The world keeps changing every second |
Re: Seeking A Muslim Solution To Islamist Terrorism by DevotedOne(m): 8:48pm On Jul 24, 2016 |
Bismillaah ir Rahmaan ir Rahiim. As salaamu alaykum. America seems to be trying to be the leader in this race. Watch the movie minority report for idea of nwo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minority_Report_(film) According to this discourse, Minority Report is a science fiction movie. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osVIzSdxguA NWO:Communism by the backdoor - Part 18 ~ You might want to watch a few other parts, of this continuing series. Wassalaam. DevotedOne |
Re: Seeking A Muslim Solution To Islamist Terrorism by ShiaMuslim: 10:39pm On Jul 24, 2016 |
BetaThings: foolishness with a loud mouth does not make you sound smart. you are just stupid. the challenge given to you from years still stands. PLEASE PRESENT JUST ONE, ONLY, NEWS SOURCE FROM MAINSTREAM MEDIA, WHERE IT WAS REPORTED THAT A SHIA USED SUICIDE BOMBING TO KILL SUNNIS OR CHRISTIANS IN FAITH-BASED KILLING (TAKFIRI KILLING). JUST ONE! YOU WILL NOT FIND ONE!!! the instance you are referring to is not "suicide bombing". and "suicide bombing" HAS NEVER BEEN used by Shia to bomb others from other faith in Takfiri or faith-based killings. can you deny that? WHAT YOU HAVE ALWAYS PUBLICIZED: the Shia of Lebanon used "martyrdom operation" to target superior military target occupying their land through force. not to attack mosques, and churches to kill others or innocent people or non-combantants for their difference in faith as WAHHABISM promotes. targeting superior military occupation target through "martyrdom operation" is also used by Palestinian Sunnis against superior Israeli occupation forces occupying their land to inflict maximum damage on legitimate military enemy target. this means has been backed even by Sunni scholars like Sheikh Ahmad Yaseen who was assassinated by Israel. again, fighting occupiers of your land is way DIFFERENT from indiscriminately targeting others on faith-based killings (Takifir killings) which is promoted by the Wahhabi hatred and extremist terror ideology. RESISTANCE TO OCCUPATION is NOT TERRORISM even if Israel calls it terrorism. it is human right for every people under occupation to fight for their liberation using whatever means. even the US constitution gives right to the people to carry arms to fight for their freedom. this has nothing to do with Iran or Shia exclusively. it is not the means used that matters, but the target and purpose. but obviously, sectarianism has eaten into your skull. that is the only point i will clarify so you do not end up with your sectarian illogical arguments. otherwise, you will fail to realize that only WAHHABISM teaches faith-based killings, a belief totally ALIEN TO ISLAM, and Muslims, be they Shia or mainstream Sunni. 1 Like |
Re: Seeking A Muslim Solution To Islamist Terrorism by ShiaMuslim: 11:05pm On Jul 24, 2016 |
Seun: for the solutions, the Egyptians who are Sunnis have led by example. Egypt banned the literature, i.e. books and fatwas, by Ibn Taymiyyah and Ibn Abdul-Wahab, the propagators of Wahhabism. they banned all extremist Wahhabi/Salafist publications which are mostly centered on Takfiri killings and kill and kill and kill. ban their literature. do not allow them to have madrassas and teach innocent kids to hate and kill kuffar and other Muslims they pass takfir on. save the children from extremism!!! starve the Wahhabis of cash. that is the tough part which must be decided by their masters, the western powers if they really are serious about eliminating terrorism which is transported by the Wahhabi ideology as a vehicle. saudi arabia should be divided into three or four countries, and the Wahhabis who are concentrated in Najd be cut off and the oil resources belonging to non-Wahhabis (i.e. the Shia of the Hijaz) should return to the rightful owners. that would be the only way to cut the petro-dollars. then there is the hajj factor. the pilgrimage to the holy land gets the Wahhabis lots of cash annd avenue to impose their ideology on other Muslims. Makkah and Medina should be placed in the control of the Organization of Islamic Conference (OIC) and the two cities should have the status of the Vatican City as holy lands for ALL MUSLIMS irrespective of sect/denomination/ideology or whatever doctrinal differences. The Shia have a centralized scholars system through the marjaiyyah. in Shia Islam, not everyone with a beard and a cap can pass a fatwa calling to jihad. only the handful of ayatollahs who have reached a certain level of acquired knowledge can do that. the Sunni scholars should have a similar licensed based system to give permission on who can pass fatwas, especially to fight. presently, any riff raff can and that is why everyday there is a new Sunni terror group. that should be controlled. control the flow of fatwas and you will control the adrenaline of Sunni youths. i am not saying any foreign body should imposed on Sunnis. there are competent Sunni bodies like AL-AZHAR in Egypt that can handle this well. 1 Like |
Re: Seeking A Muslim Solution To Islamist Terrorism by DevotedOne(m): 12:54am On Jul 28, 2016 |
Bismillaah ir Rahmaan ir Rahiim. As salaamu alaykum. The news media is claiming that IS, is expanding its reach with alarming speed. But it appears that Islamic groups are trying to grab some headlines IMHO. This IS, type thing just seems senseless to me. The Islamic State’s Bangladesh Attack: To Contain Terrorism, Build Institutions Wassalaam. DevotedOne |
Re: Seeking A Muslim Solution To Islamist Terrorism by ilovetheline: 1:00pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
on our own land, I call on northerners to recognize the legal democratic military occupation of the South East Islam is trut |
Re: Seeking A Muslim Solution To Islamist Terrorism by DevotedOne(m): 12:21pm On Jul 31, 2016 |
Bismillaah ir Rahmaan ir Rahiim. As salaamu alaykum. As America's boogeyman (Islam), fades into the past, we are confronted (supposedly), with another newer and (supposedly), far more threatening, boogeyman; Russia. In 1961 President Eisenhower warned the American people of the threat posed by the military-security complex. That was 55 years ago. This complex is so strong today that it is able to divert massive taxpayer resources to its coffers while the living standard and economic prospects of the American people decline. http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2016/02/18/are-americans-too-insouciant-to-survive/?goal=0_c99f77aa38-afd30adf9e-425303765 Are Americans Too Insouciant To Survive http://www.thefreedictionary.com/insouciant carefree or unconcerned; light-hearted http://coursesa.matrix.msu.edu/~hst306/documents/indust.html Military-Industrial Complex Speech, Dwight D. Eisenhower, 1961 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y06NSBBRtY Eisenhower warns us of the military industrial complex. [Warning]There is expletive language used in Part 1, of the following series! Some sexy scenes in "Hollywood & Music Industry" parts, such as Part 4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcEYa48yfzo&list=PLoLytQk_WG5IjRnx6ikufsX9unhiNaVMc NWO: Communism by the Backdoor Official Trailer Wassalaam. DevotedOne 1 Like |
Re: Seeking A Muslim Solution To Islamist Terrorism by Seun(m): 12:52pm On Jul 31, 2016 |
Would you support the idea of making the teaching of hatred and intolerance and violence illegal under Nigerian law regardless of the religion or sect of the teacher? And making it obligatory for those who witness such teachings to report them to the authorities? |
Re: Seeking A Muslim Solution To Islamist Terrorism by ilovetheline: 8:43pm On Aug 01, 2016 |
Seun:call it what you will. such a law will be good for mixed nigeria. in Biafra we will live by truth. Islam is dangerous and stagnating[preaches a hand off approach to life ie: do nothing than fend food on earth]. teaches western progress is absolutely evil[ask around]. your suggestions is simply anti Igbo because it is a grounded belief of Igbos you are proposing to make illegal [if someone came up with a stupid religion like an eat dung religion, people have their rights to say it is wrong] Ps worthy of reply. but of course... overlook wisdom if u wish |
Re: Seeking A Muslim Solution To Islamist Terrorism by Nobody: 10:53pm On Jan 01, 2017 |
What personality? I address those who genuinely wants to seek knowledgebith offline and online but I don't cherish time wasters who are already set in their ways.It would be an illogical thing to do. We are talking about a personality who doesn't think twice about blocking those who asked others to ignore him without using any derogatory terms. Haven't you heard that ‘he who comes to equity must come with clean hands'. He is not ready to learn, if and when he is, we will teach him. He is merely using this to further justify his hatred against Islam. By the way he isn't the first atheist I know, I know quite a few on a personal basis who respect themselves and whom I don't bother my head about whether they hate Islam or not. To each his own, life is not that deep man And it is not a trend among your Muslim brothers and sisters online/offline. Perhaps you need to change the type of people you move with because I know a lot of Muslims who sees educating people like him as a form of jihad cum charity. Please stop generalising, it is unfair and rude to Muslims who take this seriously. Take care. Talk2bryant: 1 Like 1 Share |
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