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Re: Victoria Aguiyi-Ironsi Speaks On The 50th Year Of Aguiyi Ironsi's Death by Icecomrade: 3:31pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
2eggs1goal: I just beg you to read. It will give you better understanding of what transpired during that period. Please don't make careless statements that would attract curses to you. I bet you, lots of Nairalanders are just cursing you under their breath even without making a statement here. Not only silence is golden, Knowledge is also golden. |
Re: Victoria Aguiyi-Ironsi Speaks On The 50th Year Of Aguiyi Ironsi's Death by ManMountain(m): 3:32pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
chidozieikeji2: Which book did you read this from? Give me a link. |
Re: Victoria Aguiyi-Ironsi Speaks On The 50th Year Of Aguiyi Ironsi's Death by Eluwilussit(m): 3:32pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
ManMountain: That was the first time we had to deal with such a situation. So it was not easy. Everyone else learnt from that mistake. ![]() |
Re: Victoria Aguiyi-Ironsi Speaks On The 50th Year Of Aguiyi Ironsi's Death by southpole: 3:32pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
[size=14pt]It is this same Igbo man that destroyed the True federalism Tafawa Balewa was operating, and now Igbos and Avengers are crying for the same true federalism their brother destroyed[/size] 6 Likes |
Re: Victoria Aguiyi-Ironsi Speaks On The 50th Year Of Aguiyi Ironsi's Death by ChemicalReaction(f): 3:35pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
tomquest:He doesn't have an excuse. I was also born in the indomie age. |
Re: Victoria Aguiyi-Ironsi Speaks On The 50th Year Of Aguiyi Ironsi's Death by ManMountain(m): 3:35pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
Eluwilussit: It was a treasonable act and the military had a straight forward way of dealing with such an issue. The punishment for a failed military putsch is summary execution. We should NEVER try to absolve Ironsi on such flimsy excuses of lack of precedent. Another question is why did he relocate all the coup plotters to the secured East? 8 Likes |
Re: Victoria Aguiyi-Ironsi Speaks On The 50th Year Of Aguiyi Ironsi's Death by markfoefish(m): 3:36pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
Rest on my hero |
Re: Victoria Aguiyi-Ironsi Speaks On The 50th Year Of Aguiyi Ironsi's Death by InHim4Him(m): 3:39pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
cyberdurable: CORRECT! |
Re: Victoria Aguiyi-Ironsi Speaks On The 50th Year Of Aguiyi Ironsi's Death by southpole: 3:45pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
chidozieikeji2:You Igbos are too tribalistic, first it was the Igbo tribal coup, second the coupists infirmed their Igbo stakeholders to run away before the coup was carried out, third an Igbo man was made the head of state, fourth, the Igbo man head of state was not ready to punish the coupists may be because they were Igbos, fifth, when Ironsi was killed ojukwu an Igbo man started nursing ambission. why? 5 Likes |
Re: Victoria Aguiyi-Ironsi Speaks On The 50th Year Of Aguiyi Ironsi's Death by iwadobo: 3:57pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
tomquest: Aguyi was killed because he introduced unitary system which means all wealth ,be it in the north or south belongs to all Nigerians. That was his undoing . The north felt that their money would be used to run Nigeria and they have to hurriedly kill him . They were about to declare independence when they were advised that the bulk of the money being used to run Nigeria Wass from oil and not groundnut . Unfortunately, those that hated unitary system to the extent of committing mass murder for it, embraced it when they discovered that it is another man's money that is to be shared all over Nigeria. Today, no one loves the unitary system more than the Hausa. That is the Nigeria ,our so called country. Nigeria is a fraud hate. 8 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Victoria Aguiyi-Ironsi Speaks On The 50th Year Of Aguiyi Ironsi's Death by koladebrainiac(m): 3:58pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
DIKEnaWAR:mumu hausa has been crushing hausa over the years. why should igbo be any different? the fact is, he has power n cannot sustain it. so no one should claim victim. When u are in such position,you do everything logical to remain in power. what if he sack all the northern officers and promote all the east and loaylist from the west? we wont be where we are today or who is afraid of the north?? the northern people see this and grab it and monoplize all the power. To nigeria and the north Gowon is an Hero,to Igbos Ironsi is an Hero. Ironsi does niot understand power and he is not smart. he had power in his grip and he cant sustain ity. so no one should come here and start claiming victim. he dined with the devil,then he must be able to die with it. Gowon is still alive today. to hell with muritala. He overthrew Gowon,and and someone now killed him and everybody is crying fire bullshit. to Hell with Ojukwu he fault a war he cant win.so i look at how people handle power and when they lost in the scheme of things,they become cryu cry people. its bulshit. 3 Likes |
Re: Victoria Aguiyi-Ironsi Speaks On The 50th Year Of Aguiyi Ironsi's Death by koladebrainiac(m): 4:02pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
southpole:Igbos are saint, they dont want to admit failure. they dont want to carry blame. some even think Kaduna ezeogu is hero. they argue from both cheeks. so i dont know whats wrong with them. they argue that its right for them to go to war with nigeria and it was wrong to kill them during war. this is bad for us |
Re: Victoria Aguiyi-Ironsi Speaks On The 50th Year Of Aguiyi Ironsi's Death by ifox(m): 4:07pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
It was dark days in black and white and should be forgotten |
Re: Victoria Aguiyi-Ironsi Speaks On The 50th Year Of Aguiyi Ironsi's Death by Nobody: 4:09pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
2eggs1goal:you are a son of a dog and a cursed almajiri for u to open ur godforsaken gworo mouth and vomit rubbish u neva knew about.son of a bastard like u if not for ironsi who stopped nzeogwu and onwuatuegwu ur cursed fathers and LovePeddler mothers would hav fallen to their bullet. 1 Like |
Re: Victoria Aguiyi-Ironsi Speaks On The 50th Year Of Aguiyi Ironsi's Death by AreaFada2: 4:09pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
2eggs1goal: Do you even know how the coup happened? I will ask you to read Alhaji Shehu Shagari's biography. At least he's Fulani whose leaders were killed. You would not expect him to exonerate Ironsi if indeed he was involved in the coup. Please read it. Because Shagari was in Balewa's cabinet. And he was there the moment members of the cabinet signed over the govt to Ironsi to maintain security in the land. It was done on a piece of paper. If Iron had planned to overthrow, he would have prepared a typed handover document for the surviving cabinet members to sign but he did not. History is there to read. Ironsi's error was to believe that centralising power and giving Northerners key roles in govt would placate them AND not quickly trying/jailing/court-marshalling the coup plotters. That was it. Read also Lt-Gen. Jeremiah Useni's interview on how they killed Ironsi. He never ever accused Ironsi of any coup. There were rumours that Northern emirs due to meet Ironsi in Ibadan (according to Useni) in that July meeting were to be massed murdered. Something very unfeasible in Nigeria. But the killing of Bello & Balewa made it look believable. But the emirs were not politicians & we all know how traditional rulers are revered throughout the country. So why massacre them? But paranoia was now everywhere. If Ironsi meant to mass murder emirs (one of whose sons, Col. Katsina he made governor of N. Region) how would that stabilise Ironsi's govt? ![]() And why would he go to a "massacre meeting" with his own son visiting from London? We should not twist history for political reasons. 9 Likes |
Re: Victoria Aguiyi-Ironsi Speaks On The 50th Year Of Aguiyi Ironsi's Death by gartamanta: 4:14pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
southpole: And when Ojukwu got back that 'true federalism' at Aburi, who are the people who fought Ojukwu to make sure that we still practice unitary rule to this day? 2 Likes |
Re: Victoria Aguiyi-Ironsi Speaks On The 50th Year Of Aguiyi Ironsi's Death by Stanbeto: 4:18pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
Aguiyi my Father use to tell us these stories those days 1 Like |
Re: Victoria Aguiyi-Ironsi Speaks On The 50th Year Of Aguiyi Ironsi's Death by logicab: 4:20pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
iwadobo:Oil in 1966? 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Victoria Aguiyi-Ironsi Speaks On The 50th Year Of Aguiyi Ironsi's Death by ManMountain(m): 4:26pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
logicab: Do you actually think you are discussing with intelligent people? They will frustate you with unintelligent rants ![]() ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: Victoria Aguiyi-Ironsi Speaks On The 50th Year Of Aguiyi Ironsi's Death by southpole: 4:27pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
gartamanta:sorry and very unfortunate that you Igbos will go to any length to justify the foolish actions of your brothers. If you really know what true federalism is, then you should know that you don't get it outside your shores. assuming you are right why didnt ojukwu implement it in 3 years of biafra? may be that was why he killed Emmanuel Ifeajuna ![]() |
Re: Victoria Aguiyi-Ironsi Speaks On The 50th Year Of Aguiyi Ironsi's Death by ManMountain(m): 4:27pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
Stanbeto: Then you are not supposed to be on this thread if all you know are the stories your father told you. Pick up a damn book and read ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: Victoria Aguiyi-Ironsi Speaks On The 50th Year Of Aguiyi Ironsi's Death by tonquendo4u(m): 4:29pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
2eggs1goal:Do u read ur history at all?How's he greedy for power?Did he have a hand in d 1st coup?d coup happened and he was d next ranking officer,so he took over and returned d nation back to order.D grievances from dt coup cost him his life |
Re: Victoria Aguiyi-Ironsi Speaks On The 50th Year Of Aguiyi Ironsi's Death by ManMountain(m): 4:30pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
gartamanta: Igbos actually showed the sweetness of the Unitary system to the North and they've perfected the use. 3 Likes |
Re: Victoria Aguiyi-Ironsi Speaks On The 50th Year Of Aguiyi Ironsi's Death by DobleO7: 4:30pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
ManMountain: He was the highest ranking military officer at the time and the right person to take over. Even the Northern military officers knew that and had little or no qualms with his ascension to power. The problem was his decision not to deal with the proponents of the coup which bred suspicion and the unquenchable desire to revenge what they believed was an Igbo coup. 1 Like |
Re: Victoria Aguiyi-Ironsi Speaks On The 50th Year Of Aguiyi Ironsi's Death by tonquendo4u(m): 4:31pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
ManMountain:He should've left d country without a leader?who should have taken over?it was a military coup organised by his junior officers and he was d GOC them.D biggest man in d military.He had to take over 1 Like |
Re: Victoria Aguiyi-Ironsi Speaks On The 50th Year Of Aguiyi Ironsi's Death by EazyMoh(m): 4:31pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
DIKEnaWAR:The coup plotters were in barracks popping champaign and partying like no tomorrow even giving interviews. WHAT WAS THE CONSEQUENCES OF PLOTTING A COUP? Now as you answer that did Ironsi even try to show any sign of punishing the coup plotters? No he didn't and that made him appear in cohorts with the perps. He got what he deserve, you don't mess with Fulani and get away with it. Trust me. 2 Likes |
Re: Victoria Aguiyi-Ironsi Speaks On The 50th Year Of Aguiyi Ironsi's Death by ManMountain(m): 4:32pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
DobleO7: Where is the military book that you read that the most senior military person MUST take over power from Civilians in the event of a failed military coup. It is the same asswipe thinking that got Ironsi into that deep shytee . 3 Likes |
Re: Victoria Aguiyi-Ironsi Speaks On The 50th Year Of Aguiyi Ironsi's Death by southpole: 4:34pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
From tribalism to armed robbery, kidnapping, 419, Drug pushing, corruption and many other vices no wonder they were banished out of Isreal 2 Likes |
Re: Victoria Aguiyi-Ironsi Speaks On The 50th Year Of Aguiyi Ironsi's Death by Nobody: 4:35pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
This materialist and carefree woman, how will you know ?when all you did was fashion parade. |
Re: Victoria Aguiyi-Ironsi Speaks On The 50th Year Of Aguiyi Ironsi's Death by tonquendo4u(m): 4:36pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
ManMountain:D Chief of staff has seniors.Gowon was chief of staff but Ogundikpe was his senior.There's always order in d army.Nzeogwu n co had d coup.He restored order,arrested d plotters and who do u expect to take over?He was d GOC.There was even a report that Nzeogwu's boys couldn't stop him on his was to Lagos because he's d Oga.Not d chief of staff |
Re: Victoria Aguiyi-Ironsi Speaks On The 50th Year Of Aguiyi Ironsi's Death by southpole: 4:39pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
DobleO7:Gowon was not the highest military officer even from the north but he took over, Abdulsallam was not the highest ranking officer after the death of SANI Abacha but he took over. |
Re: Victoria Aguiyi-Ironsi Speaks On The 50th Year Of Aguiyi Ironsi's Death by logicab: 4:40pm On Jul 29, 2016 |
DobleO7:No wonder the highest ranking military officer in Turkey took over when the recent coup failed. 1 Like 1 Share |
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