tonquendo4u:
D Chief of staff has seniors.Gowon was chief of staff but Ogundikpe was his senior.There's always order in d army.Nzeogwu n co had d coup.He restored order,arrested d plotters and who do u expect to take over?He was d GOC.There was even a report that Nzeogwu's boys couldn't stop him on his was to Lagos because he's d Oga.Not d chief of staff

tonquendo4u:
He should've left d country without a leader?who should have taken over?it was a military coup organised by his junior officers and he was d GOC them.D biggest man in d military.He had to take over

ManMountain:


Where is the military book that you read that the most senior military person MUST take over power from Civilians in the event of a failed military coup. It is the same asswipe thinking that got Ironsi into that deep shytee .

iwadobo:


Aguyi was killed because he introduced unitary system which means all wealth ,be it in the north or south belongs to all Nigerians. That was his undoing . The north felt that their money would be used to run Nigeria and they have to hurriedly kill him . They were about to declare independence when they were advised that the bulk of the money being used to run Nigeria Wass from oil and not groundnut . Unfortunately, those that hated unitary system to the extent of committing mass murder for it, embraced it when they discovered that it is another man's money that is to be shared all over Nigeria. Today, no one loves the unitary system more than the Hausa. That is the Nigeria ,our so called country. Nigeria is a fraud hate.

DobleO7:


[s]So tell me who was suppose to take over since you have Phd in Hsitory[/s].

gartamanta:


And when Ojukwu got back that 'true federalism' at Aburi, who are the people who fought Ojukwu to make sure that we still practice unitary rule to this day?

DobleO7:


So tell me who was suppose to take over since you have Phd in Hsitory.

southpole:
Ojukwu was pushed by the Igbo tribalistic hormone of I must be the head not really to restore true federalism, why didn't he advice Ironsi against demolishing it in the first place? and he never mention it even once during the so called Aburi accord

logicab:
Ogbeni this is not history but commonsense. There is always a hierarchy in a democratic government. Now if the president is killed, who takes over? The most senior military man? How about if both are killed? Isn't it the Senate Chairman who then succeeds?

iwadobo:


Aguyi was killed because he introduced unitary system which means all wealth ,be it in the north or south belongs to all Nigerians. That was his undoing . The north felt that their money would be used to run Nigeria and they have to hurriedly kill him . They were about to declare independence when they were advised that the bulk of the money being used to run Nigeria Wass from oil and not groundnut . Unfortunately, those that hated unitary system to the extent of committing mass murder for it, embraced it when they discovered that it is another man's money that is to be shared all over Nigeria. Today, no one loves the unitary system more than the Hausa. That is the Nigeria ,our so called country. Nigeria is a fraud hate.

Eluwilussit:


That was a huge mistake but we must also remember that that was the first time we had to deal with such a situation. So there was no precedent. Brand new situation.

If only he killed the plotters, the north would have been placated. Then again, January to July wasn't too long to assume that he wasted too much time. He would have been seen as being too much in a hurry if he had killed the plotters within a couple of months.

We are not aware of the activities of UN and other human rights then. The picture is fragmented and it is difficult to piece together what dilema these young officers must have faced in those days as regards their decision making.

What is appalling is not the first coup, second coup or the Civil War, but our inability to learn from them and move forward as a united nation. The same problems that we faced in the 50s and 60s are here with us today. It is even worse. Shameful.

southpole:

This is the type of reasoning that put the Igbos where they are today, politically retarded tribe that called itself a major tribe

logicab:
Ogbeni this is not history but commonsense. There is always a hierarchy in a democratic government. Now if the president is killed, who takes over? The most senior military man or Vice President? How about if both are killed? Isn't it the Senate Chairman who then succeeds?

ManMountain:


Danjuma led the assault that foiled the Dimka coup against Murtala, he was Chief of Army staff, he refused to to assume leadership role, to some people, they will labeled that as an act of cowardice, but to a sensible one, it was a wise decision knowing that Dimka is a Middle Belt man like Danjuma.
Sometimes, the right thing is not always the wise or moral thing.

DobleO7:


Sure, the vice president is to take over in event the president was unavailable. During that time Nwafor Orizu acted as president while Zik was out the country. On the instruction of the coup plotters he handed over to Ironsi who ranked higher than other officers.

ManMountain:


Stop disturbing my mention if you are really that daft you can't converse intelligently without insult.

EngrTunji:

OBJ was the most senior. He was the Chief of Staff, Supreme Headquarters equivalent to the present Chief of Defense Staff. While Danjuma was the Chief of Army Staff.

DobleO7:


I am not daft and if you feel offended by my submission I take it back.

southpole:

sorry and very unfortunate that you Igbos will go to any length to justify the foolish actions of your brothers. If you really know what true federalism is, then you should know that you don't get it outside your shores. assuming you are right why didnt ojukwu implement it in 3 years of biafra? may be that was why he killed Emmanuel Ifeajuna

southpole:
Ojukwu was pushed by the Igbo tribalistic hormone of I must be the head not really to restore true federalism, why didn't he advice Ironsi against demolishing it in the first place? and he never mention it even once during the so called Aburi accord

logicab:
Aha. Does that then mean the coup didn't fail after all? If the Acting President can be taking orders from coup plotters, can you call it a failed coup? Historians on this matter have pointed out that it was more or less a coup within a coup. Ironsi had NO reason to take over.

ManMountain:

I am sorry if you feel offended by my comment too.

DobleO7:


Sure, the vice president is to take over in event the president was unavailable. During that time Nwafor Orizu acted as president while Zik was out the country. On the instruction of the coup plotters he handed over to Ironsi who ranked higher than other officers.

ManMountain:


Igbos actually showed the sweetness of the Unitary system to the North and they've perfected the use.

DobleO7:


Well from the very little that I have read the Northern military officers were not aggrieved by Ironsi's take over.

logicab:
There was enough reason for suspicion going by the pattern of the murders. If he hadn't taken over, he may well be still alive today. Danjuma learned a very important lesson from this.

gartamanta:


If the above is true, the who is to be blamed for unitary rule we practice today? If someone introduces you to smuggling and you make a career of smuggling, who is to be blamed when you get caught? The person who introduced you to it or your self?

logicab:
There was enough reason for suspicion going by the pattern of the murders. If he hadn't taken over, he may well be still alive today. Danjuma learned a very important lesson from this.