Scholar8200:
When Elijah was to be taken up from Elisha, the latter knew, a large group of the sons of prophets knew.


It is therefore curious if , as muslims claim, Jesus was caught up and NOBODY knew it was Him till about 6 centuries after!!! Not even the closest apostles knew this and were killed for proclaiming His death, burial and resurrection!!! Wouldnt that be cruel?

truthmans2012:
However, Isa will appear in Damascus and will pray behind the Mahdi, the Caliph of Islam.

Emusan:


The question I keep asking Muslims which I haven't gotten and answer to is,

If Allah will send Isa come, was he going to be born as a baby or fully grown up man like he was taken to heaven?

Unfortunately, they always boycott my question.

Scholar8200:
When Elijah was to be taken up from Elisha, the latter(his disciple) knew, a large group of the sons of prophets knew.


It is therefore curious if , as muslims claim, Jesus was caught up and NOBODY knew it was Him till about 6 centuries after!!! Not even the closest disciples knew this and were killed for proclaiming His death, burial and resurrection!!! Wouldnt that be cruel?

crusadistic:

So says your church tradition and a book with unknown authors you're assuming to be true.

Do you even know there also existed early xtian sects and gospels that denied the crucifixion of Jesus...No! they didn't tell you that.

Scholar8200:
[s]your opinion; changes NOTHING about the reality[/s]

Scholar8200:

Name them. Meanwhile, you have not attended to the issue raised.

crusadistic:
Is this even a question ....who ever said he will come as a baby

crusadistic:

your opinion; changes NOTHING about the reality

How have I not attended to the issue raised
The Apocalypse of Peter,The Books of Jeu or Yeu,The Acts of John....

Emusan:


No, it's a theory not a question.

So which means Isa is still in his 100% human in heaven now for over 2000years.

Isa the oldest man that has ever live.

Scholar8200:
When Elijah was to be taken up from Elisha, the latter(his disciple) knew, a large group of the sons of prophets knew.


It is therefore curious if , as muslims claim, Jesus was caught up and NOBODY knew it was Him till about 6 centuries after!!! Not even the closest disciples knew this and were killed for proclaiming His death, burial and resurrection!!! Wouldnt that be cruel?

crusadistic:

Nope! I think its them Prophet Enoch and Elijah

crusadistic:
Its like you don't know your bible


[b]And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he
that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in
righteousness he doth judge and make war.
[ 12 ] His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many
crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he
himself.
[ 13 ] And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his
name is called The Word of God.
[ 14 ] And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white
horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
[ 15 ] And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he
should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron:
and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of
Almighty God.
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[ 19 ] And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their
armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the
horse, and against his army.
[ 20 ] And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that
wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that
had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his
image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with
brimstone.
[ 21 ] And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat
upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all
the fowls were filled with their flesh.
Rev.20
[ 1] And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of
the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
[ 2] And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the
Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
[ 3] And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a
seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the
thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be
loosed a little season.
[ 4] And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was
given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded
for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had
not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received
his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and
reigned with Christ a thousand years.
[ 5] But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years
were finished. This is the first resurrection.
[ 6] Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on
such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of
God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
[ 7] And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be
loosed out of his prison,
[ 8] And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four
quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to
battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea...........[/b]

Inspite of the bibles confusion,it still agrees much with the Islamic account.

Scholar8200:
Happy to know you agree with that.

I knew you will go and hunt for apocrypha and protevangelium! Initial efforts at aping the Truth in the same class with your darling "Barnabas gospel"!!! .

What about your acclaimed no-crucifixion sects and the basis of their claims?

truthmans2012:


That is talking about Jesus of the Bible who will land on mount Olive in Israel where he left for heaven. He said he would come in the same manner he left. He is not muslim Jesus who is coming to Mecca to pray behind Madih.

How muslim Jesus will come to Saudi Arabia is not known in islam. The question still remains: how is muslims Jesus going to come to Saudi Arabia?

You have no right to use the Bible you claim is corrupt to buttress islam.

crusadistic:

Then why waste your time using the same bible I know is corrupt against me
And where Jesus ascended to heaven is currently a Mosque

truthmans2012:


A mosque? You are a classical liar !!!

Do you realize people go to Israel yearly on pilgrimage? No one comes home to tell us there is a mosque on mount Olive.

crusadistic:

Simple research you cannot do

Scholar8200:

It is therefore curious if , as muslims claim, Jesus was caught up and NOBODY knew it was Him till about 6 centuries after!!! Not even the closest disciples knew this and were killed for proclaiming His death, burial and resurrection!!! Wouldnt that be cruel?

9inches:
Islam in a man is more dangerous than rabies in a dog. - Winston Churchill