JackBizzle:



I agree with his base sentiment that not all muslims are terrorists. There are bad eggs in every religion.

Yes not all are. The terrorists are the ones following Muhammad,'s example. The rest are moderate

However, the guy is an expert in denying the obvious that the terrorism in France is clearly islamic.

Oh yes, everyone knows that except Muslims..

Plappvillemoi:


Its will be the best thing to do, France wont ban or destroy all mosque for now. The present government has so much ties with most islamic states leaders. Politics things you know.

yes you are right but one thing am sure of is that islam will bring her own destruction.

true2god:
The last time I checked we dont have anyone shoutind hallelujah before an attack is made. All Muslim terrorist shout 'allahhu Akbar'

FACT #1
just because people are making the sign of the cross before their own killing spree, does NOT make it any better.

The issue has to be Muslims because no other religious group or culture always attempt to challenge the local culture to conform to Arab or Islamic requirements. Any country Muslims migrate to, they will want to change the constitution to conform to sharia laws, thats treason in a sane world. I have never seen any Christian worker in Saudi Arabia asking the Saudi, Iran or Pakistani authorities to observe Christmas or easther festivals but I have seen many Arabs forcing the Americans and the Europeans to declare Islamic public holidays as part of the national holidays.

FACT #2
i guess it was the muslims who were challenging the local culture during the Afghan war, when Russian and american were training and arming Mujahideen and Al Qaeda (respectively), in order to secure their own control of the natural ressources of that country, right?
i guess it was the muslims who started this fake war on terror, which is direct reason why we have so many terror attack n the west today.

Sept11 was the day we should have understood that our stance to solve the problem, against an enemy that was willing to die for its own ideology, wasnt working. these were "terrorist" that had US/Europe backing and training during our desperate need to control the political outcome in the region, who later simply turned around and used what we taught them against us.

France and Europe were not there when Islam/muslims started their global war of Islamic conquest. The first religion and culture that started global conquest is Islam and the Arabs. Islam did not come to Pakistan and southeast Asia peacefully, millions of Hindus were killed by Islamic invaders.

FACT #3
IGNORANCE IGNORANCE IGNORANCE! check your history book to confirm how CHRISTIANS have used the bible for their crusades/inquisitions (aka GENOCIDE) since the beginning of time.
look at Africa today, and the way the Bible was (and still is today) used to enslave and rob the whole continent of its natural ressources.
wasnt it christians and the bible that was used to wipe out an entire american indian nation?
wasnt it the christians and the bible that was used to wipe and enslave an entire latin american population by the Portuguese and Spanish?
wasnt it christians and the bible that was used to decimate the Australians arborigenes?
wasnt it the christians and the bible that was used by Hitler to claim a "higher race" and murder millions of jews?
wasnt it christians and the bible that was used to enslave Africans for more than 400yrs in the US?

stop being an hypocrite, claiming the muslims are the demons of this earth!

You identity here is insignificant. We are not blaming all Muslims but Islam which produced so many terrorist.

FACT #4
the biggest MURDERERS of innocent people of this world are christians! just because you choose to focus on these few muslims people to make a point is irrelevant here. go get the data on all the killing/murder spree done in this world, and you will quickly understand that CHRISTIANITY is the biggest killing religion of innocent people here. get your fact and mind RIGHT!

furthermore, most killing of innocent in this world is done by these pointless WARS, and you should never in a lifetime think that these few terrorist act are greater than the MILLIONS of innocent that have died due to these unnecessary fake wars on terror. murder is murder, and if you think that its ok to bomb innocent victims in the middle east, then you are no wiser than these dumb terrorists! again, i am not condoning these wrong actions by these brainwashed radicalized muslims, wrong is WRONG, but dont come here trying to pretend that Muslims are the only one killing innocent people here.The US/France/UK etc are just as guilty as these brainwashed radicalized idiots, and been killing innocent people for yrs while you kept quiet.

Plappvillemoi:


No mind tbis guy. He thinks he is making sense by saying many French citizens. Who exactly are these French citizens he is talking about? They are citizens not French origin. What did Marie Le Pen said time past? She said any person who claim to be French and refused to sing the French national Athens should not count himself as French. The so-called French citizens @MRBrownj is talking about are arabs born here. They are moderate muslims. Majority of them do not sing the French national Athens. Even when Islamist terrorists attacked France, the government declared a one minute silent in all public establishment. You wont believe that the arabian/muslims students refused to observe the one minute silent. This made it clearer that they were happy with the actions of the terrorists since the victims caricatured thier prophet. Forget Muslims. They are all in thesame bag. Just that some do not have the mind to kill as Muhammad instructed. But in thier hearts they praise the terrorists who defend islam.

you ignorance on the subject is the reason why you will never understand the issue. yes, there are MANY French citizen who are muslim from birth, or/and many that gladly change their faith and become muslim (go ask the famous singer Diam's), and as of today there is about 10% of the national population who are muslim (whatever "you" regard as French or not is BS). FACT!

as for what Marine Le Pen (or any racist) are saying, it is irrelevant as, last time i checked, singing the national anthem wasnt the new benchmark to know who was deemed French or not. again, dont foolishly take the actions of a few brainwashed arabs/muslims to condemn an entire religion. same as i wont assume every French citizen are racist, just because a few went about insulting/attacking arabs and muslims after these attacks.

MRBrownJ:
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you ignorance on the subject is the reason why you will never understand the issue. yes, there are MANY French citizen who are muslim from birth, or/and many that gladly change their faith and become muslim (go ask the famous singer Diam's), and as of today there is about 10% of the national population who are muslim (whatever "you" regard as French or not is BS). FACT!

The current population of France is 64,690,674. If i may ask, how many French Origin were born Muslim out of your 10% estimate? It is not even 10% the record is 5-10%. I live in France, and i know That the vast majority of French Muslims are of immigrant origin. Arabs, Sénégal, Mali ecetera. Not that a very very tiny number are not converted, But to say MANY are Born Muslim, its a fat lie. I have stayed in 3 big cities IN France. Paris included, but I have never met any Muslim Indigenous Ethnic French person.

Not in my friend's circle, working place or even in my kids school. The Muslims you see are the Arabs or Black Africans. Its a very rare thing to see a French indigenous Ethnic convert to islam. Except a very few number who got married to a moderate Muslim. Or the ones Brainwashed at school by thier muslim friends. Diams was not born a Muslim. She converted to islam. Stop your lies.

 

as for what Marine Le Pen (or any racist) are saying, it is irrelevant as, last time i checked, singing the national anthem wasnt the new benchmark to know who was deemed French or not.

She is not a Racist. She is defending the law of French Republic. You are right, there is this new law Taking the citizenship from heartless arabs/islamiste terrorist is also a way to know who is truelly French

again, dont foolishly take the actions of a few brainwashed arabs/muslims to condemn an entire religion. same as i wont assume every French citizen are racist, just because a few went about insulting/attacking arabs and muslims after these attacks.

Those people are the people who are ready to defend islam with thier life. They are the true Muslims.

And You should be happy French people are not even burning down mosques . With what islam has been doing to them. Killing thier loved ones. They still hold thier peace. If you dare kill one Muslim in the West. Heads go role na. We know how you people behave. Like the cows those fulanis and Hausas are rowing.

Plappvillemoi:
NL stop blocking all my monikers na...

They WI keep blocking you. You speak the about Islam. If you want to be free don't speak the truth.

Cyberclint:
The whole world now sees Islam as a terrorist religion

And Islam is not?

Anas09:

And Islam is not?

It seems it is

Cyberclint:

It seems it is

. It seems? With everything crashing around you caused by these lot, it still seems?
Okayyy. Wait, until they slit your mother's throat while they make u watch, then it may be you'll agree it's real

Anas09:

. It seems? With everything crashing around you caused by these lot, it still seems?
Okayyy. Wait, until they slit your mother's throat while they make u watch, then it may be you'll agree it's real

alright, it is a bad religion which breeds terrorism

Plappvillemoi:

The current population of France is 64,690,674. If i may ask, how many French Origin were born Muslim out of your 10% estimate? It is not even 10% the record is 5-10%. I live in France, and i know That the vast majority of French Muslims are of immigrant origin. Arabs, Sénégal, Mali ecetera. Not that a very very tiny number are not converted, But to say MANY are Born Muslim, its a fat lie. I have stayed in 3 big cities IN France. Paris included, but I have never met any Muslim Indigenous Ethnic French person.

your angle is a racist/bigot one, and as there has NEVER been 2nd class citizens in France, stop trying to pretend there is. I repeat, there is about 10% national citizen who are muslim, and many are BORN MUSLIM, and thats that. keep your racist way of thinking out of this discussion, and focus on the issue. what you are insinuating is as clueless as me saying that the only "true" American are the american Indians, and everyone else is a fraud (arrant nonsense)

Not in my friend's circle, working place or even in my kids school. The Muslims you see are the Arabs or Black Africans. Its a very rare thing to see a French indigenous Ethnic convert to islam. Except a very few number who got married to a moderate Muslim. Or the ones Brainwashed at school by thier muslim friends. Diams was not born a Muslim. She converted to islam. Stop your lies.

again, i was born and bred in France, since as far as kindergarden there has always been FRENCH muslims around me, they didnt suddenly appear in 2015, as you are trying to portray it. here is a clue: when France won the world cup, it certainly wasnt French Immigrants who won, it was FRENCH CITIZEN. and as much as it pains you that our biggest football icon may be of arab decent, it certainly doesnt change the fact that he is FRENCH before anything else.... before his parents religion, before his skin color etc

do you have English comprehension issues?! i said there are many French citizen that are BORN muslim and/or others that convert "like a famous artist called Diams". duh!

She is not a Racist. She is defending the law of French Republic. You are right, there is this new law Taking the citizenship from heartless arabs/islamiste terrorist is also a way to know who is truelly French

that is a racist clueless statement, from someone who is trying to ride on this terror attacks to gain votes (like Trump and his Mexican/muslim statements). here is a clue: there is NO single law that stipulates that a French person needs to know or sing the Marseillaise whenever it is played (in order to be called French), and anyone who believes there is such a law isnt too smart. if you'd only knew what "liberté égalité fraternité" meant to any french Citizen, then you wouldnt write rubbish pretending you know what we stand for. you are indeed CLUELESS about France and its people.

Those people are the people who are ready to defend islam with thier life. They are the true Muslims.

correction: they are radicalised Muslim, and have absolutely nothing to do with the +90% muslim who dont think/act like they do.

And You should be happy French people are not even burning down mosques . With what islam has been doing to them. Killing thier loved ones. They still hold thier peace. If you dare kill one Muslim in the West. Heads go role na. We know how you people behave. Like the cows those fulanis and Hausas are rowing.

again, islam hasnt done anything to France, a minority group of insane people did. get your facts right!

MRBrownJ:


your angle is a racist/bigot one, and as there has NEVER been 2nd class citizens in France, stop trying to pretend there is. I repeat, there is about 10% national citizen who are muslim, and many are BORN MUSLIM, and thats that. keep your racist way of thinking out of this discussion, and focus on the issue. what you are insinuating is as clueless as me saying that the only "true" American are the american Indians, and everyone else is a fraud (arrant nonsense)

You can call it 2rd class if thats how you prefer. You and I are French by Naturalisation. We are not "Origin Français" as they put it here. French language is not our mother's tongue. When a foreign French citizen commits a crime. His/her Origin will be tagged to his name. No one call him French. Take example the Muslim guy who killed 84 people on the 14t of July. No one dare call him a French man but a French "Tunisian origin". You cannot deny this fact. Stop bragging that French people are born Muslim.

again, i was born and bred in France, since as far as kindergarden there has always been FRENCH muslims around me, they didnt suddenly appear in 2015, as you are trying to portray it. here is a clue: when France won the world cup, it certainly wasnt French Immigrants who won, it was FRENCH CITIZEN. and as much as it pains you that our biggest football icon may be of arab decent, it certainly doesnt change the fact that he is FRENCH before anything else.... before his parents religion, before his skin color etc

Like i said before, You acquired your citizenship because you were born in France.There are several ways of acquiring French citizenship, through "marriage" and by "birth" (if one is born in France to foreign parents who are legally residing on French territory. Those footballer you are talking about will still end up filling some official documents by ticking that they are French but origin "Étrangers". I know what I am saying. I don't know who you are but I can tell you that I have played in a club in Paris before i bacame Mother and a wife.

do you have English comprehension issues?! i said there are many French citizen that are BORN muslim and/or others that convert "like a famous artist called Diams". duh!

Be precise next time. French citizens that became French by been born in France or Married to French person. French citizens by Naturalisation !

that is a racist clueless statement, from someone who is trying to ride on this terror attacks to gain votes (like Trump and his Mexican/muslim statements). here is a clue: there is NO single law that stipulates that a French person needs to know or sing the Marseillaise whenever it is played (in order to be called French), and anyone who believes there is such a law isnt too smart. if you'd only knew what "liberté égalité fraternité" meant to any french Citizen, then you wouldnt write rubbish pretending you know what we stand for. you are indeed CLUELESS about France and its people.

That is what Islam is taking for granted. Liberté Égalité Fraternité. How do you muslims in Franch respect this?

What was the reason of Charlie Hebdo killing? Why is France facing terrorist attack from Muslims? Do you think French people are free and secured in thier homes? Do you love the French people you call (kafir)? Of course its easy to quote Liberté égalité fraternité as a muslim. But Put it in practice is forbidden.

correction: they are radicalised Muslim, and have absolutely nothing to do with the +90% muslim who dont think/act like they do.

They are Radicalised by the use of Quran and Hadiths.
They are like Muhammed. They are the true Muslims. You cant change this facts.

again, islam hasnt done anything to France, a minority group of insane people did. get your facts right!

Islam has done so much harm to France. The islamist terrorist attacks will soon play a great danage to French economic. And what about the French people killed by allah armies? Is this not a great harm to France?

OH YES, ISLAM WILL SURELY RULE THE WORLD. AND THE ONLY WAY TO PROVE IT IS BY KILLING NON MUSLIMS. Common!!!!

Plappvillemoi:
You can call it 2rd class if thats how you prefer. You and I are French by Naturalisation. We are not "Origin Français" as they put it here. French language is not our mother's tongue.

absolute RUBBISH!!!! there is NO such thing as 2nd class citizen OR origine Francais (whatever that is) OR white citizen ONLY viewed as true French nationals. there will NEVER BE, from the day France decided to invade the world and establish/enslave colonies all around the world... as if any black person from Guadeloupe/Martinique etc is less French than a White citizen?! highly laughable!
here is a clue: France (and the whole of Europe) is a culturally MIXED continent with citizen coming in difference ethnic background and RELIGION. why would you wrongly assume that a person born and bred in France (whatever their colour/religion), who never held any other citizenship but that of France, has less claim as a citizen than a white person?! thats sickening to think that people think the way you do. such has NEVER happened in France. not even Marine Le Pen (or her father) will EVER dare say that only a white person can be considered French, yet here you are saying so, RUBBISH! you are clueless about this issue and i will say it again: you definitely aint French OR doesnt know anything about France and its citizen, if you think that any national citizen of colour is a 2nd class citizen. Europe today is made of 2nd/3rd generation citizen from immigrants parentage that are considered just as Europeans as anyone else! you definitely live in LALA LAND and think you know anything about France after spending a few yrs there. GET REAL! there are NO 2nd class citizen in France!

When a foreign French citizen commits a crime. His/her Origin will be tagged to his name. No one call him French. Take example the Muslim guy who killed 84 people on the 14t of July. No one dare call him a French man but a French "Tunisian origin". You cannot deny this fact. Stop bragging that French people are born Muslim.

you are very clueless about this whole issue, and keep pretending that you know anything, while sadly you dont!
LET ME EDUCATE YOU, IF I MAY:
1) the Tunisian terrorist was NOT French, he was TUNISIAN, he had a "carte de séjour", and no French citizen will ever have one! carte de séjour are "resident permits" made for foreigners living in France. his resident permit was valid until 14/01/2019 (check the photo i posted below for confirmation). French citizen will NEVER held a resident permit, we have "carte d'identité" (identity cards)!!!! so this Tunisian man could never have been French, and will remain a TUNISIAN terrorist who was living legally in France. BWAAAAAAH

2) yes, when there is a crime committed by a black/arab person, his ETHNIC BACKGROUND (or religion) is put in perspective... but i have NEVER EVER read a newspaper/media talk about that person's parent nationality, if that person was BORN in France!
but hey, i dare you to prove me wrong!

Like i said before, You acquired your citizenship because you were born in France.There are several ways of acquiring French citizenship, through "marriage" and by "birth" (if one is born in France to foreign parents who are legally residing on French territory. Those footballer you are talking about will still end up filling some official documents by ticking that they are French but origin "Étrangers". I know what I am saying. I don't know who you are but I can tell you that I have played in a club in Paris before i bacame Mother and a wife.

again, stop showing your ignorance on an issue you know very little about (aka my person).... if my NIGERIAN father became a French citizen before i was born, then i am French BY FILIATION and there is no box to tick, just like gazillions of us 2nd/3rd generation children of immigrants. but does that make me or anyone else less a citizen than any other "white" French person?! HELL NO (ask Sarkozy and his Hungarian father for confirmation)! furthermore, there are NO french documents that says "French but originE étranger", for French citizen, NONE, unless that person want to issue his/her identity card, and needs to prove their nationality (aka filiation/birth/naturalised), but i repeat that there are NO official document for French nationals where it is written "french but origine étranger"... and i DARE you to prove me wrong!!!!but even if there was, that should NOT make such person a 2nd class citizen in the community, as there is VERY little to differentiate who is from foreign parents, from who is from French parents, from who is from west indian parents (antillais), from who was naturalised, BY THE LOOK on their faces. is Zidane less French than Thierry henry because he was born in France from Algerian parents, while Henry's parents were from Guadeloupe? HELL NO! this is why we are a multi cultural nation, and A) there can NEVER be French nationals viewed as 2nd class citizen in France (unless you ask racists and neo nazis groups), and B) many French citizen are born muslim, aka 2nd/3rd generations from immigrant, that are just as French as anyone else. educated yourself on what you obviously DONT KNOW!

Be precise next time. French citizens that became French by been born in France or Married to French person. French citizens by Naturalisation !

again, there are millions of 2nd/3rd generation children of muslim immigrants that are FRENCH NATIONALS and BORN MUSLIM (go ask Zidane and his children). you can call it whatever YOU desire, but that doesnt change the damn fact!

That is what Islam is taking for granted. Liberté Égalité Fraternité. How do you muslims in Franch respect this?

the majority of muslims in France DONT take such notion for granted, its the radicalised extremists who DO! get your facts right!

What was the reason of Charlie Hebdo killing? Why is France facing terrorist attack from Muslims? Do you think French people are free and secured in thier homes? Do you love the French people you call (kafir)? Of course its easy to quote Liberté égalité fraternité as a muslim. But Put it in practice is forbidden.

- WHO cares what goes inside the mind of radicalised extremists?! these are terror acts that were sanctioned by EVERYONE, muslims from around the world included... and last i check, almost 30muslims died in the terror attacks in Nice, so yes, muslims are VICTIMS of (and against) these terrorist too!
- France (Europe) is the focus of these terror attacks due to our policies, war on terror, and bombing campaign in the middle east... it started from sept 11, when their focus was mainly the US, but now they have shifted to Europe as they have easier access.
- YES, we French (and Europeans) are free, and we should NEVER be scared to live our lives, because thats exactly what these terrorists wants us to do (be scared!)
- I have NEVER EVER mentioned the word "kafir", nor here on NL or in life. you must be mistaking me for true2god.
- YES, i love MYSELF, love my country, love my people (regardless of colour/religion), and just because some few terrorists (and/or racists) are French, wont change that fact!
- i am NOT muslim, so i have no idea what you are talking about, and proudly stand by LIBERTÉ ÉGALITÉ FRATERNITÉ, thus can give my opinion on any subject (unless you believe that only muslims can defend such religious issues?!)

They are Radicalised by the use of Quran and Hadiths.
They are like Muhammed. They are the true Muslims. You cant change this facts.

stop being an hypocrite!!!!
when Hitler used the bible to kill millions of jews, did we blame christianity?!
when entire nations like the american indians/aborigenes were wiped from the face of this earth by Christians, did we blame christianity?!
when christian school kids in the US are going on killing spree, shooting innocent people, do we blame christianity?!

the verses in the quran are the same as those in the Bible. if it is OK for the majority of christians to use their brain and "understand" that you shouldnt take literally the stoning/killing professed in the bible, why should that be any different for muslims and whats written in the quran?!

Islam has done so much harm to France. The islamist terrorist attacks will soon play a great danage to French economic. And what about the French people killed by allah armies? Is this not a great harm to France?

get your facts RIGHT: it is extremists that are doing harm to France, NOT islam. French muslim (and the other 1.5 billions muslims all over the world) should not be blamed for the actions of a few extremists!

OH YES, ISLAM WILL SURELY RULE THE WORLD. AND THE ONLY WAY TO PROVE IT IS BY KILLING NON MUSLIMS. Common!!!!

why should islam rule the world?! do you actually believe that this is the aim of the peaceful 1.5billion muslims all over the world?!

MRBrownJ:


absolute RUBBISH!!!! there is NO such thing as 2nd class citizen OR origine Francais (whatever that is) OR white citizen ONLY viewed as true French nationals. there will NEVER BE, from the day France decided to invade the world and establish/enslave colonies all around the world... as if any black person from Guadeloupe/Martinique etc is less French than a White citizen?! highly laughable!
here is a clue: France (and the whole of Europe) is a culturally MIXED continent with citizen coming in difference ethnic background and RELIGION. why would you wrongly assume that a person born and bred in France (whatever their colour/religion), who never held any other citizenship but that of France, has less claim as a citizen than a white person?! thats sickening to think that people think the way you do. such has NEVER happened in France. not even Marine Le Pen (or her father) will EVER dare say that only a white person can be considered French, yet here you are saying so, RUBBISH! you are clueless about this issue and i will say it again: you definitely aint French OR doesnt know anything about France and its citizen, if you think that any national citizen of colour is a 2nd class citizen. Europe today is made of 2nd/3rd generation citizen from immigrants parentage that are considered just as Europeans as anyone else! you definitely live in LALA LAND and think you know anything about France after spending a few yrs there. GET REAL! there are NO 2nd class citizen in France!



you are very clueless about this whole issue, and keep pretending that you know anything, while sadly you dont!
LET ME EDUCATE YOU, IF I MAY:
1) the Tunisian terrorist was NOT French, he was TUNISIAN, he had a "carte de séjour", and no French citizen will ever have one! carte de séjour are "resident permits" made for foreigners living in France. his resident permit was valid until 14/01/2019 (check the photo i posted below for confirmation). French citizen will NEVER held a resident permit, we have "carte d'identité" (identity cards)!!!! so this Tunisian man could never have been French, and will remain a TUNISIAN terrorist who was living legally in France. BWAAAAAAH

2) yes, when there is a crime committed by a black/arab person, his ETHNIC BACKGROUND (or religion) is put in perspective... but i have NEVER EVER read a newspaper/media talk about that person's parent nationality, if that person was BORN in France!
but hey, i dare you to prove me wrong!



again, stop showing your ignorance on an issue you know very little about (aka my person).... if my NIGERIAN father became a French citizen before i was born, then i am French BY FILIATION and there is no box to tick, just like gazillions of us 2nd/3rd generation children of immigrants. but does that make me or anyone else less a citizen than any other "white" French person?! HELL NO (ask Sarkozy and his Hungarian father for confirmation)! furthermore, there are NO french documents that says "French but originE étranger", for French citizen, NONE, unless that person want to issue his/her identity card, and needs to prove their nationality (aka filiation/birth/naturalised), but i repeat that there are NO official document for French nationals where it is written "french but origine étranger"... and i DARE you to prove me wrong!!!!but even if there was, that should NOT make such person a 2nd class citizen in the community, as there is VERY little to differentiate who is from foreign parents, from who is from French parents, from who is from west indian parents (antillais), from who was naturalised, BY THE LOOK on their faces. is Zidane less French than Thierry henry because he was born in France from Algerian parents, while Henry's parents were from Guadeloupe? HELL NO! this is why we are a multi cultural nation, and A) there can NEVER be French nationals viewed as 2nd class citizen in France (unless you ask racists and neo nazis groups), and B) many French citizen are born muslim, aka 2nd/3rd generations from immigrant, that are just as French as anyone else. educated yourself on what you obviously DONT KNOW!



again, there are millions of 2nd/3rd generation children of muslim immigrants that are FRENCH NATIONALS and BORN MUSLIM (go ask Zidane and his children). you can call it whatever YOU desire, but that doesnt change the damn fact!



the majority of muslims in France DONT take such notion for granted, its the radicalised extremists who DO! get your facts right!



- WHO cares what goes inside the mind of radicalised extremists?! these are terror acts that were sanctioned by EVERYONE, muslims from around the world included... and last i check, almost 30muslims died in the terror attacks in Nice, so yes, muslims are VICTIMS of (and against) these terrorist too!
- France (Europe) is the focus of these terror attacks due to our policies, war on terror, and bombing campaign in the middle east... it started from sept 11, when their focus was mainly the US, but now they have shifted to Europe as they have easier access.
- YES, we French (and Europeans) are free, and we should NEVER be scared to live our lives, because thats exactly what these terrorists wants us to do (be scared!)
- I have NEVER EVER mentioned the word "kafir", nor here on NL or in life. you must be mistaking me for true2god.
- YES, i love MYSELF, love my country, love my people (regardless of colour/religion), and just because some few terrorists (and/or racists) are French, wont change that fact!
- i am NOT muslim, so i have no idea what you are talking about, and proudly stand by LIBERTÉ ÉGALITÉ FRATERNITÉ, thus can give my opinion on any subject (unless you believe that only muslims can defend such religious issues?!)



stop being an hypocrite!!!!
when Hitler used the bible to kill millions of jews, did we blame christianity?!
when entire nations like the american indians/aborigenes were wiped from the face of this earth by Christians, did we blame christianity?!
when christian school kids in the US are going on killing spree, shooting innocent people, do we blame christianity?!

the verses in the quran are the same as those in the Bible. if it is OK for the majority of christians to use their brain and "understand" that you shouldnt take literally the stoning/killing professed in the bible, why should that be any different for muslims and whats written in the quran?!



get your facts RIGHT: it is extremists that are doing harm to France, NOT islam. French muslim (and the other 1.5 billions muslims all over the world) should not be blamed for the actions of a few extremists!



why should islam rule the world?! do you actually believe that this is the aim of the peaceful 1.5billion muslims all over the world?!

BIOGRAPHIE DE PATRICE EVRA
Patrice Evra est un footballeur professionnel français né le 15 mai 1981 à Dakar, d'une mère sénégalaise et d'un père guinéen.

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No matter how you try to quibble it, It won't change facts. That you are French today doesnt say you do not have a mother tongue. No matter your citizenship, at a point of time you will be traced to your descendants. Evra is French but his origin must be appended for one to fully know his root. The late Coulibaly and the Kouachi brothers were also tagged with thier origin. It has nothing to do with 2rd class.

I never talk about second class but telling you that The footballers you are talking about are not French origin. Prove see Evra, Zidane etc. In the French gouvernement circle, see Rachida dati, Manuel Valls and co.

François Hollande is a French Citizen. His mother tongue is French. Those people you claim to be born Muslims are not French Origin but French citizens from a foreign origin. I have never seen any French Origin be it White or Black that was born Muslim. But majority of French Origin people are born Catholic. You even hear them say it when on interview.

If you bring Martinique, Guadeloupe, Guyane etc into this discussion, then we will completely divert the aim of this thread because it will take us back to politic and History. I don't have time to waste urging such.

Point of correction, I never mentioned white or black in my previews poste. You are the one pointing fingers here. You Digress so often that the main argument cannot even accomplish its aim. Please stay on the topic. Or Are you a Muslim but pretending to be evenhanded? Because The way you are defending Islam is convincing!

MRBrownJ:

Take note her origin was mentioned. Even if she is French.

MRBrownJ:


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Error for the Tunisia terrorist identity. But there are two French terrorists who were tagged with their origin.

20 more Mosques to be shut down definitely. Islam is deadly. Defending such religion make you one of them.

Update of this thread:

France Shuts Down Another 20 ‘Radical Islam, Hate Preaching Mosques’


On  Monday, French Interior Minister Bernard Cazeneuve announced that French security forces have shut down 20 mosques accused of spreading toxic radical-Islamic ideology since December.

“There is no place…in France for those who call for and incite hatred in prayer halls or in mosques, and who don’t respect certain republican principles, notably equality between men and women,” said Cazeneuve. “That is why I took the decision a few months ago to close mosques through the state of emergency, legal measures or administrative measures. About 20 mosques have been closed, and there will be others

 http://www.dailywire.com/news/7987/france-shuts-down-another-20-radical-islam-hate-michael-qazvini

Base on the Quran and hadiths, I think all mosques do preach hate.

You cannot back up your claim that Hitler was a Christian. If he was who did he copied? Ask yourself did Jésus kill that anyone will have to kill in his name? The difference between Muhammad, his army and Jésus and his disciples is this. Jésus message and action is love, peace and life. And His disciples followed his example. They didn't kill a soul. While Muhammad''s message is hate, war and death. Muhammad killed millions and his followers did kill too. That's why a true Muslim must kill. Is is and Co are the true Muslim.

MRBrownJ:


FACT #1
just because people are making the sign of the cross before their own killing spree, does NOT make it any better.



FACT #2
i guess it was the muslims who were challenging the local culture during the Afghan war, when Russian and american were training and arming Mujahideen and Al Qaeda (respectively), in order to secure their[b] own control of the natural ressources of that country, righ[/b]t?
i guess it was the muslims who started this fake war on terror, which is direct reason why we have so many terror attack n the west today.

Sept11 was the day we should have understood that our stance to solve the problem, against an enemy that was willing to die for its own ideology, wasnt working. these were "terrorist" that had US/Europe backing and training during our desperate need to control the political outcome in the region, who later simply turned around and used what we taught them against us.



FACT #3
IGNORANCE IGNORANCE IGNORANCE! check your history book to confirm how CHRISTIANS have used the bible for their crusades/inquisitions (aka GENOCIDE) since the beginning of time.
look at Africa today, and the way the Bible was (and still is today) used to enslave and rob the whole continent of its natural ressources.
wasnt it christians and the bible that was used to wipe out an entire american indian nation?
wasnt it the christians and the bible that was used to wipe and enslave an entire latin american population by the Portuguese and Spanish?
wasnt it christians and the bible that was used to decimate the Australians arborigenes?
wasnt it the christians and the bible that was used by Hitler to claim a "higher race" and murder millions of jews?
wasnt it christians and the bible that was used to enslave Africans for more than 400yrs in the US?

stop being an hypocrite, claiming the muslims are the demons of this earth!



FACT #4
the biggest MURDERERS of innocent people of this world are christians! just because you choose to focus on these few muslims people to make a point is irrelevant here. go get the data on all the killing/murder spree done in this world, and you will quickly understand that CHRISTIANITY is the biggest killing religion of innocent people here. get your fact and mind RIGHT!

furthermore, most killing of innocent in this world is done by these pointless WARS, and you should never in a lifetime think that these few terrorist act are greater than the MILLIONS of innocent that have died due to these unnecessary fake wars on terror. murder is murder, and if you think that its ok to bomb innocent victims in the middle east, then you are no wiser than these dumb terrorists! again, i am not condoning these wrong actions by these brainwashed radicalized muslims, wrong is WRONG, but dont come here trying to pretend that Muslims are the only one killing innocent people here.The US/France/UK etc are just as guilty as these brainwashed radicalized idiots, and been killing innocent people for yrs while you kept quiet.



you ignorance on the subject is the reason why you will never understand the issue. yes, there are MANY French citizen who are muslim from birth, or/and many that gladly change their faith and become muslim (go ask the famous singer Diam's), and as of today there is about 10% of the national population who are muslim (whatever "you" regard as French or not is BS). FACT!

as for what Marine Le Pen (or any racist) are saying, it is irrelevant as, last time i checked, singing the national anthem wasnt the new benchmark to know who was deemed French or not. again, dont foolishly take the actions of a few brainwashed arabs/muslims to condemn an entire religion. same as i wont assume every French citizen are racist, just because a few went about insulting/attacking arabs and muslims after these attacks.

what resources in afghanistan?

Its a historical fact that arabs started and introduced euopeans to subsaharan slave trade and after the invention of shipping the europeans bypassed the arabs ad went direct .
Afrcans need to stop being pawns in the arab/ european imperalism competition. That is the overall game.

The arabs love and love people worshipping their deity it gives them a big high.

the europeans are naturally athetist and they want cheap resoucres to the benefit of their continent.

what islam needs is reformation just like chritanity did.

U have to be honest with that unless the volence and detest will continue

Plappvillemoi:
20 more Mosques to be shut down definitely. Islam is deadly. Defending such religion make you one of them.

It is only a Muslim, a blind and a deaf and dumb man that will tell you that Islam is not deadly. The foundation of is Islam is fraught with wars, genocide and discriminations against non-Muslims and will forever remain so because allahh commanded it (Quran 9:29-30, Quran 8:39, Quran 8:60, Quran 2:191-2, Quran 5:51, Quran 98:6, sahib Bukhari 4:52:256, etc) until the civilized world is determined to destroy Islam and put it in a right classification as a political religion with the aim of global conquest and annihilation of other religions and culture.

In Belgium another priest was attacked in a church by another Muslim. This trend will continue until a real rage will emerge in Europe which will lead to civil wars in Europe and mass deportation of Muslims of Arab/African descent and the complete destruction of all mosques. This incident had happen in Spain and France before, mass deportation of Muslims and destruction of all mosques, and I can see history repeating itself in a much larger scale.

The mistake is with the European politicians who open their doors to mass Arab migration. Arabs/Muslims are never raised to be loyal to the kafirs nor to accept their culture and constitution which is diametrically opposite to Shari'a and a judeo-christian values. It won't end well, you don't put a cat and dog in the same barn. Providence had already separated the Europeans from the Arabs, the European have no business allowing a hostile people and culture in their countries in such a large scale.

No matter how you try to quibble it, It won't change facts. That you are French today doesnt say you do not have a mother tongue. No matter your citizenship, at a point of time you will be traced to your descendants.Evra is French but his origin must be appended for one to fully know his root. The late Coulibaly and the Kouachi brothers were also tagged with thier origin. It has nothing to do with 2rd class.

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
i see that you are trying everything to act like you are making sense, when it is obvious you aint. ok, here is for your FURTHER EDUCATION:

A) it is a WELL KNOWN fact that Zinedine Zidane has had double nationality due to his parents (many naturalised citizen do), thats why he could have played professional football for FRANCE or ALGERIA, but chose France. has this EVER made him any less a French citizen than anyone else? of course not! shouldnt that make him a French national born a muslim? yes it does! this is a simple example of what France stands for... LIBERTÉ ÉGALITÉ FRATERNITÉ.

B) what should a BIOGRAPHY say about a person, if not their ancestry?! your ORIGIN/ANCESTRY is an important part of a biography, therefore where your parents came from MUST be mentioned, DUH! every single person's wiki page states where their PARENTS came from. Sarkozy Wiki page says his father was hungarian, Francois Hollande's page also states his parent ancestry, why do you think that it should be any different with black/arab citizen's biography?! this is the information that should be on anyone's biography, and this has NOTHING to do with the context in which you stated that French citizen are not viewed as french by the media when they commit crimes, as their ancestry is mentioned. so, my question IS: have you ever seen media bring such biography when mentioning crimes committed by French citizen (unless it is terror attacks)?!

we all know the medias with their fear mongering and scare tactics are quick to label the religion of these French terrorist, in order to further their bias propaganda, but it is important to know the full background of any French terrorist (aka their ancestry/background etc) to have an idea where/when/how they could have fell and got radicalized. this is what we ALL want to know, and has nothing to do with your claim that the media mention such ancestry every time a "foreign" French citizen does a crime.

if you have nothing to bring to the table then be quiet instead of bringing RUBBISH to this discussion.

EVERY human being have ancestors that can be traced from ANY part of this world, does that have any relevance to this discussion and the fact that there are born French muslims today? stick to the issue at hand. so i will repeat what i have been saying since the beginning:TODAY IN FRANCE, THERE ARE NO 2ND CLASS CITIZEN, we are all viewed and treated EQUAL as one nation, therefore, regardless of your origin, MANY FRENCH CITIZEN ARE BORN MUSLIM, as much as you hate to hear that... and if you dont viewed them as French nationals because their origins cannot be traced to the celtes/Gaulois (very few can), then that is YOUR cross to bare.

I never talk about second class but telling you that The footballers you are talking about are not French origin. Prove see Evra, Zidane etc. In the French gouvernement circle, see Rachida dati, Manuel Valls and co.

does that make these French nationals be viewed as any less French than others? OF COURSE NOT!!!! and this is what i am trying to tell you for god knows how long. France of today is a multicultural nation, with citizen that can be born muslims (or any other religion).

François Hollande is a French Citizen. His mother tongue is French. Those people you claim to be born Muslims are not French Origin but French citizens from a foreign origin. I have never seen any French Origin be it White or Black that was born Muslim. But majority of French Origin people are born Catholic. You even hear them say it when on interview.

i feel sorry for you and your poor/failed state of mind... as if a person's Origin was relevant in France today. it may be in your mind (no wonder tribalism is rampant in Nigeria), but IN FRANCE, Rachida dati/Manuel Valls, Zinedine Zidane and co are just as French as Francois Hollande. it is only people who are clueless about France and our values, that would say such an ignorant statement about people you know nothing about.

If you bring Martinique, Guadeloupe, Guyane etc into this discussion, then we will completely divert the aim of this thread because it will take us back to politic and History. I don't have time to waste urging such.

i guess since they speak creole in such place as their mother tongue, they also cannot be considered French citizen neither, right? bwaaaah!

Point of correction, I never mentioned white or black in my previews poste. You are the one pointing fingers here. You Digress so often that the main argument cannot even accomplish its aim. Please stay on the topic. Or Are you a Muslim but pretending to be evenhanded? Because The way you are defending Islam is convincing!

yes i am pointing fingers at the amount of litter that you are bringing to this thread trying poorly to make a point. so i will repeat my earlier statement, so you dont try to smokescreen this issue:
France has 10% of its NATIONAL population that are muslim, and many French citizen are BORN MUSLIM. so far as i know, a person's origin is NOT required when they make the census on French nationals/popuation, thus YOUR narrow minded views on who can be viewed as French citizen (and/or subsequently muslims) are irrelevant. the French gov and the majority of the French population view these citizen as French, and thats all that should matter here.

Plappvillemoi:
Error for the Tunisia terrorist identity. But there are two French terrorists who were tagged with their origin.

so the media makes a detail background check on these terrorist AND THEIR PARENTS, but you would want them to NOT mention where their parents are from? do make some sort of sense pls?

Plappvillemoi:
20 more Mosques to be shut down definitely. Islam is deadly. Defending such religion make you one of them.

such above statement in bold makes you just as ignorant as these terrorists, but the gov is RIGHT about closing these mosque that spread hatred and create these extremist. is that what is preached in all mosques in France? of course not, but hey, here is an information that may pain you:

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
In France there are currently 2300 mosques with a further 200 to 250 planned.

Plappvillemoi:
Base on the Quran and hadiths, I think all mosques do preach hate.

you have the right to your own biased views, but i would suggest you open a bible someday and educate yourself on the issue

You cannot back up your claim that Hitler was a Christian. If he was who did he copied?

the man was baptised, and if you've ever read "Mein kampf" then such notion is OBVIOUS, but hey dont take my words for it and instead, here is part of his speech:"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."

Ask yourself did Jésus kill that anyone will have to kill in his name? The difference between Muhammad, his army and Jésus and his disciples is this. Jésus message and action is love, peace and life. And His disciples followed his example. They didn't kill a soul. While Muhammad''s message is hate, war and death. Muhammad killed millions and his followers did kill too. That's why a true Muslim must kill. Is is and Co are the true Muslim.

bwaaaah, are we talking about the same bible that demands DEATH for not listening to priest, DEATH for fornicators, DEATH for adulterers, DEATH for followers of other religion, DEATH for non believers, DEATH for false prophet, DEATH for non virgins on their wedding night, DEATH for homosexuals, DEATH for witches and wizards, DEATH for cursing your parents?! a bible that warrant infanticide, murder, rape, slavery etc

thats a lot of death/destruction and evil deeds dont you think, for a religion of supposed"peace"?!...but here is a great verse that really portrays the LOVE from that said bible....1 Samuel 15:3: "This is what the Lord Almighty says ... 'Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.' "

also, i suggest you educate yourself on christianity and its crusades and inquisition, and wave of genocide/enslavement and destruction through time.

quickly:
what resources in afghanistan?

bro, dont just believe cluelessly all the rubbish the media feeds you, and instead EDUCATE YOURSELF.
here is my contribution to your education (thank me later): today, everything runs on batteries... phones, computers, tablets, and in the future all cars will be battery powered too. so it is safe to say that LITHIUM (which is the main component of these batteries) is as valuable as petroleum. now, would you like to guess where the world’s largest untapped reserves of lithium was found in 1998 (right before the Afghan war)?! BINGO: AFGHANISTAN!!!!!
the Lithium field of western Afghanistan, coupled with rich reserves of gold, copper, iron ore, uranium, polymetalic ore, oil and gas is estimated worth between $3-5TRILLION (yeah, you read right!), so stop believing that the US army has 9permanent bases, and is in Afghanistan for the past 15yrs, for democracy.

Its a historical fact that arabs started and introduced euopeans to subsaharan slave trade and after the invention of shipping the europeans bypassed the arabs ad went direct. Africans need to stop being pawns in the arab/ european imperalism competition. That is the overall game.

you are absolutely right, but should that be a reason to hate all arabs and Europeans? certainly not!

The arabs love and love people worshipping their deity it gives them a big high.

every religion does

the europeans are naturally athetist and they want cheap resoucres to the benefit of their continent.

you mean that Europeans who used the bible to enslave the whole world, and exterminate entire nations, are naturally atheist?! the reason why the world is in such a poor state is due to religion, Christianity and islam in particular. no other tool has created even half as much destruction all around the world, as religion did.

what islam needs is reformation just like chritanity did.
U have to be honest with that unless the volence and detest will continue

i would rather that we get rid/ban all religion whatsoever!

MRBrownJ:


NO, thats not what i am saying.... my point is: focussing on muslim citizens of France is NOT the way to solve this issue, far from it. it will simply create MORE discrimination towards muslims in France (as it has already started), and therefore play in the hands of these terrorists whose aim is exactly that.... how easy do you think it would therefore be for them to brainwash these discriminated muslims?

dont ever compare apples and oranges. France has 10% of its NATIONAL population (not foreigners/immigrants) that are muslim. France's motto has always been about EQUALITY, and now you believe that banning a certain religion is going to solve anything?! well, BH is bombing Nigeria, should we now ban muslims and mosques in Nigeria?! use your brain pls!



use your brain instead of writing rubbish. Muslims are not to be blamed here, radicalized terrorists are. if you dont know the difference then i suggest you educate yourself instead of writing rubbish.



the above deluded gibberish can only be written from an IGNORANT person... here is a clue: many French citizen are BORN MUSLIM. they are FRENCH citizen and thats how they should be treated and looked at FIRST. anyone, stoopid enough to think that we should discriminate on anyone (French citizen or otherwise) because of their religion, is no better than these terrorists.

Still talking greater nonsense !!!

What is the source of their radicalism?

Why is it only the Qur'an people read and become radicals?

You don't know what you are saying.

truthmans2012:

Still talking greater nonsense !!!
What is the source of their radicalism?
Why is it only the Qur'an people read and become radicals?
You don't know what you are saying.

who are the REAL victims of these radicalised extremist all over the world?! stop being an hypocrite and believe that the few unfortunate terror attacks in the west (with its handful of casualties), is the true picture here. how many victims in the west do we have so far?! 500? 1000? ok, let me be generous and say that there are 10K death from these terror attacks in the west. now turn around, OPEN YOUR DAMN EYES/MIND, and realize that MILLIONS OF MUSLIMS have died as a direct result of these terror attacks and war on terror... yet here you are trying to make us believe that "religion" is the main issue here?! TERRORISM is the issue here, and as far as i remember, it wasnt invented by Islam. religion has always been used to indoctrinate gullible people, and these extremist terrorists are just that.

i dont see you blaming christianity when the Klu Klux Klan brandished a cross and unleash their terror and murder innocent people, right?! blaming an ENTIRE religion of +1.5bil people because of the actions of a handful of mad radicalised extremist (that equally kill muslims) is not only DUMB but the reason why this issue could never be resolved. FOCUS ON THE REAL ISSUE!

but hey, in order to further educate you, let me give you this great info:
- most terror attack in this world are committed by NON MUSLIMS
- most terror attacks in the EU are committed by NON MUSLIMS
- there was +350 mass shootings last year in the US, mostly committed by NON MUSLIMS

MRBrownJ:


BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
[size=14pt]i see that you are trying everything to act like you are making sense, when it is obvious you aint.
[/size]

I should be the one to tell you this.

ok, here is for your FURTHER EDUCATION:

Go and educate yourself. You are bias in your argument.

[s]
A) it is a WELL KNOWN fact that Zinedine Zidane has had double nationality due to his parents (many naturalised citizen do), thats why he could have played professional football for FRANCE or ALGERIA, but chose France. has this EVER made him any less a French citizen than anyone else? of course not! shouldnt that make him a French national born a muslim? yes it does! this is a simple example of what France stands for... LIBERTÉ ÉGALITÉ FRATERNITÉ.

B) what should a BIOGRAPHY say about a person, if not their ancestry?! your ORIGIN/ANCESTRY is an important part of a biography, therefore where your parents came from MUST be mentioned, DUH! every single person's wiki page states where their PARENTS came from. Sarkozy Wiki page says his father was hungarian, Francois Hollande's page also states his parent ancestry, why do you think that it should be any different with black/arab citizen's biography?! this is the information that should be on anyone's biography, and this has NOTHING to do with the context in which you stated that French citizen are not viewed as french by the media when they commit crimes, as their ancestry is mentioned. so, my question IS: have you ever seen media bring such biography when mentioning crimes committed by French citizen (unless it is terror attacks)?!

we all know the medias with their fear mongering and scare tactics are quick to label the religion of these French terrorist, in order to further their bias propaganda, but it is important to know the full background of any French terrorist (aka their ancestry/background etc) to have an idea where/when/how they could have fell and got radicalized. this is what we ALL want to know, and has nothing to do with your claim that the media mention such ancestry every time a "foreign" French citizen does a crime.

if you have nothing to bring to the table then be quiet instead of bringing RUBBISH to this discussion.

EVERY human being have ancestors that can be traced from ANY part of this world, does that have any relevance to this discussion and the fact that there are born French muslims today? stick to the issue at hand. so i will repeat what i have been saying since the beginning:TODAY IN FRANCE, THERE ARE NO 2ND CLASS CITIZEN, we are all viewed and treated EQUAL as one nation, therefore, regardless of your origin, MANY FRENCH CITIZEN ARE BORN MUSLIM, as much as you hate to hear that... and if you dont viewed them as French nationals because their origins cannot be traced to the celtes/Gaulois (very few can), then that is YOUR cross to bare.



does that make these French nationals be viewed as any less French than others? OF COURSE NOT!!!! and this is what i am trying to tell you for god knows how long. France of today is a multicultural nation, with citizen that can be born muslims (or any other religion).



i feel sorry for you and your poor/failed state of mind... as if a person's Origin was relevant in France today. it may be in your mind (no wonder tribalism is rampant in Nigeria), but IN FRANCE, Rachida dati/Manuel Valls, Zinedine Zidane and co are just as French as Francois Hollande. it is only people who are clueless about France and our values, that would say such an ignorant statement about people you know nothing about.



i guess since they speak creole in such place as their mother tongue, they also cannot be considered French citizen neither, right? bwaaaah!



yes i am pointing fingers at the amount of litter that you are bringing to this thread trying poorly to make a point. so i will repeat my earlier statement, so you dont try to smokescreen this issue:
France has 10% of its NATIONAL population that are muslim, and many French citizen are BORN MUSLIM. so far as i know, a person's origin is NOT required when they make the census on French nationals/popuation, thus YOUR narrow minded views on who can be viewed as French citizen (and/or subsequently muslims) are irrelevant. the French gov and the majority of the French population view these citizen as French, and thats all that should matter here.



so the media makes a detail background check on these terrorist AND THEIR PARENTS, but you would want them to NOT mention where their parents are from? do make some sort of sense pls?



such above statement in bold makes you just as ignorant as these terrorists, but the gov is RIGHT about closing these mosque that spread hatred and create these extremist. is that what is preached in all mosques in France? of course not, but hey, here is an information that may pain you:

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
In France there are currently 2300 mosques with a further 200 to 250 planned.



you have the right to your own biased views, but i would suggest you open a bible someday and educate yourself on the issue



the man was baptised, and if you've ever read "Mein kampf" then such notion is OBVIOUS, but hey dont take my words for it and instead, here is part of his speech:"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord."



bwaaaah, are we talking about the same bible that demands DEATH for not listening to priest, DEATH for fornicators, DEATH for adulterers, DEATH for followers of other religion, DEATH for non believers, DEATH for false prophet, DEATH for non virgins on their wedding night, DEATH for homosexuals, DEATH for witches and wizards, DEATH for cursing your parents?! a bible that warrant infanticide, murder, rape, slavery etc

thats a lot of death/destruction and evil deeds dont you think, for a religion of supposed"peace"?!...but here is a great verse that really portrays the LOVE from that said bible....1 Samuel 15:3: "This is what the Lord Almighty says ... 'Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.' "

also, i suggest you educate yourself on christianity and its crusades and inquisition, and wave of genocide/enslavement and destruction through time.[/s]

You are very partial in your views. Am through with talking with you.

true2god:
It is only a Muslim, a blind and a deaf and dumb man that will tell you that Islam is not deadly. The foundation of is Islam is fraught with wars, genocide and discriminations against non-Muslims and will forever remain so because allahh commanded it (Quran 9:29-30, Quran 8:39, Quran 8:60, Quran 2:191-2, Quran 5:51, Quran 98:6, sahib Bukhari 4:52:256, etc) until the civilized world is determined to destroy Islam and put it in a right classification as a political religion with the aim of global conquest and annihilation of other religions and culture.

In Belgium another priest was attacked in a church by another Muslim. This trend will continue until a real rage will emerge in Europe which will lead to civil wars in Europe and mass deportation of Muslims of Arab/African descent and the complete destruction of all mosques. This incident had happen in Spain and France before, mass deportation of Muslims and destruction of all mosques, and I can see history repeating itself in a much larger scale.

The mistake is with the European politicians who open their doors to mass Arab migration. Arabs/Muslims are never raised to be loyal to the kafirs nor to accept their culture and constitution which is diametrically opposite to Shari'a and a judeo-christian values. It won't end well, you don't put a cat and dog in the same barn. Providence had already separated the Europeans from the Arabs, the European have no business allowing a hostile people and culture in their countries in such a large scale.

Some muslim here say Muslims are peaceful. What a liar!! Even The interior minister said that, there have been several reports that some mosque do preach hate. Hate preaching cannot aline with the French system. I have said it before and will say it again. If we take a goo look at the Islamic books. One will come to ask why are Muslims living in a secular countries when they are supposed to be enemies with them. Islam has no place in the West. It's home town is in the middle East. Muslims in Europe are fake Muslims. They are not obeying the Quran. You say the West are kafirs yet you run to them for help. You hate them with passion to the extend of killing their babies.

truthmans2012:


Still talking greater nonsense !!!

What is the source of their radicalism?

Why is it only the Qur'an people read and become radicals?

You don't know what you are saying.

He will point at the bible. My brother living in Abuja told me that Muslims are now going out with knife. That any Christian they meet on their way preaching the Gospel should be killed. The Lasthe time I checked on this Thread. 1.5 billion Muslims are peaceful people. .

MRBrownJ:


bro, dont just believe cluelessly all the rubbish the media feeds you, and instead EDUCATE YOURSELF.
here is my contribution to your education (thank me later):

You are only deceiving yourself. No one here is taking serious your long garbage you put up there. You are just an equivocator! A Muslim is a Muslim no Offence.

Plappvillemoi:

I should be the one to tell you this.
Go and educate yourself. You are bias in your argument.
You are very partial in your views. Am through with talking with you.

and this is coming from someone whose sole biased contributions on NL are nothing but threads against muslim/islam?! (lol,reminds me of Hitler) HIGHY LAUGHABLE!
sadly, it is the opinion of dumbass narrow minded one sided bigots like yourself that we can all do without. you can use as many profiles you want here on NL, your writing will always ooze ignorance. you are just as brainwashed and deluded as these extremists OR the tribalistic idiots that infect NL/Nigeria... but hey, keep coming here to spew your hateful ignorant one sided views, i'll be here to discredit your nonsense with FACTS!

MBJ at your service

MRBrownJ:


and this is coming from someone whose sole biased contributions on NL are nothing but threads against muslim/islam?! (lol,reminds me of Hitler) HIGHY LAUGHABLE!
sadly, it is the opinion of dumbass narrow minded one sided bigots like yourself that we can all do without. you can use as many profiles you want here on NL, your writing will always ooze ignorance. you are just as brainwashed and deluded as these extremists OR the tribalistic idiots that infect NL/Nigeria... but hey, keep coming here to spew your hateful ignorant one sided views, i'll be here to discredit your nonsense with FACTS!

MBJ at your service

You said you are not Muslim but you are PAINED!!
Following all my monikas.. I will creat lore anytime I am ban for exposing Islam!

You see you don't have something better to do with your time than to defend Islam. You claim to be French yet the fake Islamic spirit flows in your vains.

You Have failed woefully man. You have nothing to discredit. Be informed that Your long garbage will be ignored. Storyteller ! !

The satanic verse modified in the quran.