lexiconkabir:
It is reported from Sufyān b. ʿUyainah (rah) that a man once asked ʿAlī b. Ḥusayn b. ʿAlī b. ʾAbī Ṭālib (rah), "What was the status of Abū Bakr and ʿUmar with Rasūlullāh (saw)?" He replied, "Their place with him is like their place with him today (i.e. where they are in their graves)."
[Abū Bakr Al-Daynūrī, Al-Mujālasah wa Jawāhir Al-ʿIlm 4:254]

From http://SayingsOftheSalaf.net

Newnas:


A great summary of the status of these great icons of Islam, may Allah be pleased with them.

This also shows the great understanding and knowledge of our pious predecessors may Allah have mercy upon them all.

zeyney:
ameen

Rafidi:
Why is the grouping "Abu Bakr and Umar"?

Why wasn't it "Umar and Talha" for example?

During the expedition of Usama, Abu Bakr and Umar refused to leave Medina and disobeyed the Prophet (s).

During the failed assassination attempt on the life of the Prophet in Aqabah, it was Abu Bakr and Umar.

During the massacre and rape of Bani Yerbo of Yemen and the killing of a sahabi (Malik Ibn Nuweira) in the first Takfiri raid it was Abu Bakr and umar.

During the confiscation of Fadak, it was Abu Bakr and umar.

During Saqifah Banu Saeda, it was Abu Bakr and umar.

What is the secret? Can't you read between the lines?

You can quote all the fake concoction of historical tales and whitewashing and it will not avail you or them anything.

You need to know that when Imam Ali (as) was so called fourth caliph in Kufa, the generality of Muslims who followed him and fought for him as fourth caliph were referred to as his "shia". It was a political tag exclusively and not necessarily doctrinal.just like usthman also had his own "shia" (partisans). I'm referring to Ibn Taymiyyah's mental ma$turbation.

The saying of Imam Ali Ibn Hussein, Zaynul Abideen (as) may be true. But can't you see with common sense that Taqiyyah is written all over it? It's not a direct answer.

As for the Ibn Hanafiyyah's (ra) testimony, outright "fakery"!!!

lexiconkabir:


Writing a retort for this rubbish will be a waste of my time and energy, you know why? you guys are known for your weak mental capabilities, always holding on to weak proofs, anyway:

"May the curse of Allaah be upon the liars" ~ Quran

Rafidi:


"And the servants of the Beneficent Allah are they who walk on the earth in humbleness, and when the ignorant address them, they say: Peace." (Holy Quran 25:63)

lexiconkabir:


Really, it's hypocrisy quoting from the Quran when you believe that it has gone through tahreef.

lexiconkabir:

Really, it's hypocrisy quoting from the Quran when you believe that it has gone through tahreef.

Rafidi:


"[For such is the state of the disbelievers], until, when death comes to one of them, he says, "My Lord, send me back".That I might do righteousness in that which I left behind." No! It is only a word he is saying; and behind them is a barrier until the Day they are resurrected. (Holy Quran 23:99-100)

1. I do not believe in Tahreef. Tahreef is in your Sunni Hadith books. And we-Shia Imamiyyah al-Ja'fariyyah al-Ithna Ashariyyah- do not believe in it as a matter of truth, concensus and doctrine.

2. Do not drift from the topic. The thread is not about tahreef. If you have nothing truthful to speak, then shut up! You know the truth has been revealed and falsehood exposed, so you try to label me falsely to scare others like yourself who suffer from the veil of falsehood by accusing me of tahreef.

3. You and I as Muslims quote the Bible when addressing Christians and without doubt we both believe the Bible has undergone tahreef (distortions). Does that make you a hypocrite? Well yea you are hypocrite going by the above logic of yours.

SAL.AM!