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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 7:53pm On Aug 10, 2016 |
Diademk07: Your essay didn’t change the fact that that Carrick is part of our defensive set up. If the defence behind him is poor, he will spend most time trying to cover up the gaps. If the defence behind him plays close to the goalkeeper, Carrick will spend most of the time in our own third. If the defence is unable to win back possession quickly, then when will Carrick get the ball to pass to the midfielders/wingers? A similar argument occurred in 2011/2012 when a few people thought the run of great results was due to the influence of Cleverley and Anderson combo only, until I showed them we had a smart defence behind them which enabled quick play from our own third. Even when Anderson and Cleverley were being separated we still had great results when Fletcher came on, until Jones and Evans had their own injuries. We had a CB of Jones Evans/Smalling/Ferdinand then Rafael/Smalling in right back and Evra on the left. The movement out of our own third was swift while recovery was superb. We won 8-2, 5-0, 3-0, etc at the beginning of the season. Even SAF had to pull out Ferdinand and Vidic in the Shield where the winning streak started. Then we came from 0-2 to beat City 3-2. A similar thing happened in the first league game of the season. Defence is important to attack. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Diademk07: 7:54pm On Aug 10, 2016 |
patrickmuf: Pastore? Don't make me laugh and don't bother to bring up his serie A performances where the likes of Lamela, Immobile looked G.O.A.T. That headless performance vs Barca where the likes of Moura even looked better speak all. As for Moura, apart from his pure pace, he has nothing else going for him. He's just plain stupid. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 7:58pm On Aug 10, 2016 |
SIRcumalot:From experience and from the business point of view clubs hardly make such ridiculous spending consecutively, and that's where the fall out with Mou will hit the roof. Big signings come with huge wage bills bro. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Diademk07: 8:00pm On Aug 10, 2016 |
elampiro: Defence is only important to the attack if you have ball playing defenders or attacking fullbacks! Sorry, the likes of Jones/Smalling offered nothing in the attack for us. You should stick to defending the no of clean sheets they managed. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 8:02pm On Aug 10, 2016 |
Damn Pogba mum is the definition of sugar moma...Me self wan chop out of the £89m. Na to turn her mature face away and fire Doggy sure pass
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Diademk07: 8:07pm On Aug 10, 2016 |
FvckeDyoBiTch: See carnal thinking! That's someone's mum. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 8:10pm On Aug 10, 2016 |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:19pm On Aug 10, 2016 |
Diademk07: Even if you go to key pass, Di Maria still wins. Both have 2.2 key passes per match. Both when drilled down to key passes per total minutes played, Di Maria is better than Hazard. Look at the last two charts. The column marked 'Total' represents the number of minutes the player needs to play to make a key pass. You see there Di Maria murdered Hazard again in that stat . For the record, you don't like Hazard more than I do. Good night!
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 8:24pm On Aug 10, 2016 |
SIRcumalot: WHat did they show me with Madrid? EVerytime Madrid broke the transfer record they won either the league or CL when they dont they sack the coach |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 8:27pm On Aug 10, 2016 |
Diademk07: Defence is mostly important to attack if it: 1. Can play high on the pitch to help the attack press the opposition in the final third. 2. Wins tackle quickly to reduce the time the opposition have on the ball. 3. Being able to defend aerial balls very fine and doesn't need the forwards to play close to our box to help defend aerial balls as Fellaini have been made to do whenever Blind is in our defence. This is likely my last response to you. You no know ball. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 8:27pm On Aug 10, 2016 |
dopeJemi: Van Gaal wasnt sacked after 2014/15 season despite outspending his rivals. Breaking a world record means you are buying a top class player and a player worth the money. If One buys Ronaldo for 100M and another buys 5 youth players for 21M each WHo would the expectations be higher on? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by AdisaOwala: 8:27pm On Aug 10, 2016 |
FvckeDyoBiTch: Crack is bad for your health, hòmbrè! Quit before it Sends you náked into the streets! |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 8:29pm On Aug 10, 2016 |
dopeJemi: If you break a world record that trumps outspending your rival. Breaking a world record is a statement of intent and after that you have to win |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 8:30pm On Aug 10, 2016 |
So much about the money we spent on Paul and the imaginary pressure on Mou championed by Mr. Logic himself...For so called logical folks like Dayo and company, it's perfectly normal for Guardiola to outspend his rivals by any amount as long as he doesn't break the world record, funny... Now, if we must tow their line of thought wherein Mou is suppose to win all before him, then we'd say Man City must concede the least number of goals since they just broke the world record for a defender, sounds silly right? That's how we see you from where we stand. 4 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dopeJemi: 8:33pm On Aug 10, 2016 |
raumdeuter: Alright |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 8:40pm On Aug 10, 2016 |
raumdeuter:so you're suggesting we sack Jose if e no happen? that doesn't make sense. that would be like sacking Pep or ancelotti in his first season because he didn't win the champion league which was always the goal. we know the bundesliga na afterthought for Bayern. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Diademk07: 8:40pm On Aug 10, 2016 |
elampiro: While one has played in a worldclass team in most of his career. Also, the stat is calculated by minutes played. That's why subs appearances are also listed. The basic truth is I watch most Madrid matches to know Di Maria is too inconsistent and that was why I was against his signing. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 8:45pm On Aug 10, 2016 |
Dayo is right, Mourinho is expected to win the league this season because of the world record signing. Even if Pep spends 200m for market, the special one is expected to clinch the title unless pep signs a world record player. If United decides to sack him or not, na another tori for another day. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 8:45pm On Aug 10, 2016 |
patrickmuf: I can spend 120M at say 25M each on 5 young players, Would you say I would have the same expectations as Someone who spent 110M on a player? I was expecting those who have followed football for a while to know this isnt the case. WHen you break a world record a new form of expectation is on you Like saying the expectation on a Man who buys 1 Buggati for 35M and one who buys 6 cars toyota, Honda, Nissan, Kia, Hyundai, Volkswagen at 6M each. The one who buys 6 cars people go say he try, But the one who buys 1 Buggatti has made a statement and expectations would be higher on him or for your area you dey carry Sikira, Eloho, Nkechi, Bose Adesua and Ekaette compared to your guy wey just carry Zahra Buhari |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Diademk07: 8:48pm On Aug 10, 2016 |
elampiro: Lol! All you listed are basically the act of defending in defence and they are no box-box CM that surge high up the pitch after quickly winning the ball in the midfield. It's even funny when we know the likes of Jones knows nothing to do with the ball when they get it. So, how did they contribute to the attack? Even with Fergie latter years when he was being pragmatic, he rarely did without one of Ferdinand/Evans in defence except they are out injured. The old man at least knows the important of a ball playing defender. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 8:49pm On Aug 10, 2016 |
kokaneprodigy:forget the business and the salary you no our financial sound die!! we've had our 7 lean years this na the 7 fats ones. the only reason why you're worried is because you're a gunner and For some reason you people have chosen self imposed hunger strike. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 8:51pm On Aug 10, 2016 |
SIRcumalot: You dont have to sack him as sacking him involves a lot of things, Maybe his buys might not be liked by the next manager, Maybe you would have to pay him big for contract breach But you would admit he failed, the level of failure would now determine whther he is worthy of sack or not. If by May you are 16th then he has failed majorly and sack is very likely, if he ends up 2-4th then he has failed slightly and has a case for one more season to improve |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by codedguy1(m): 8:55pm On Aug 10, 2016 |
Funlordjnr: Make Rooney no get inspiration for this kain thing Oo they need him in China or mks. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 8:55pm On Aug 10, 2016 |
patrickmuf:boo boo boo, bay bay bay, bla bla bla. You trying so hard to sound intelligent but u still coming out dull. Apart from the record signing, he signed two other players for over 30M each, coupled with the fact that Ibra is on a wage of well over 200k weekly, Pogba is on that as well. Two very high profile signings were gotten by him this season alone. Need I add that Mou has over 5yrs EPL experience? You mean manure did all these so MOU could go trophyless? Before u counter me, u must be able to tell me any of Peps signings that are of higher profile in football than Pogba and Ibra, secondly, any of his signings that will earn over 200k weekly. Let me add, that if Mou wins any trophy it won't be seen as due to tactics or skill we'll always remember he got Ibra and a record signing. You don't get record signings to go trophyless. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 8:56pm On Aug 10, 2016 |
Lmao @ "self imposed hunger strike " ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 8:56pm On Aug 10, 2016 |
Pogba in fifa 17...
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 9:01pm On Aug 10, 2016 |
When people dey talk,Assanal fans go still get liver dey talk!!! Poor men wey wan spoil community meeting! ![]() 5 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 9:03pm On Aug 10, 2016 |
raumdeuter:You should know that Madrid were buying to add to their team of all stars. MU is full of average players. Over 70% won't even make bench in a Madrid or Barcelona team. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 9:04pm On Aug 10, 2016 |
kokaneprodigy: Statistically Mikitaryan, Pogba and Zlatan were the best players in Germany Italy and France. You buy these type of players for immediate impact meaning win immediately Compare that to Nolito, Sane, Stones, Gundogan etc how many of these would make top 5 from the league they are coming from and 3 of his buys are even teenagers meaning he is probably working on a long term project to phase out the older guys gradually while the youths take over gradually. City has a reason to do that because after spending almost 100M every summer their squad currently is filled with over 30 players who have little use. They have 4 full backs all over 30 If as Mourinho was buying Pogba Zlatan and Miki, Pep was buying Suarez, Muller and Bonnuci we for say they are equal and have the same target |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 9:04pm On Aug 10, 2016 |
raumdeuter:In football, today's football at least, the marketability of a player is always a factor in his pricing as is his footballing abilities...So, your analogy is already showing lines of fault. As per your first line, if you spend 25m on five good players, I'd say that's a better piece of business on a footballing stand point and thus you should do much better than a fella who interested all in one... |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 9:05pm On Aug 10, 2016 |
codedguy1:That Rooney guy needs to leave MU. Right now he is a huge liability. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 9:05pm On Aug 10, 2016 |
raumdeuter:I have no problem with this, we gave Jose all he asked for. |
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