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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 4 by nana101: 7:44pm On Aug 11, 2016
debby516:
Thanks Feddy

I would say window seat or if in the middle Lane you stay inside. My reason is, no one disturbs me, I get to disturb them wen I want to take a walk or rest room. Think about it, my opinion thou.

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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 4 by cindermum: 9:27pm On Aug 11, 2016
Here's my friend's transcript from preclearance in Abudhabi

 Fast forward to secondary inspection 

CBP: hello, y r u going to the Us?‎
Friend : childbirth and vacation 
CBP: but I can see here that you renewed via dropbox and you stated you were going for holiday in May and this is August‎
Friend: yes sir, my husband wanted to go for holiday in May when we renewed our visas so he used the same information for both of us
CBP: I see you also had your first baby in the US, can I see receipts and she handed it to him
CBP: have you contacted a DR and what hospital do you intend to use
Friend: she mentioned hosp name and handed over the birth package.. that was the beginning of the problem
CBP: you gave me a package from 2014 and my friend insisted that it must have been an error as the Dr sent it to her not long ago. He asked them to go sit and he came back to her saying the Dr said she didn't give her anything of such. To cut the story sha, she showed him the email on her fone but still doubted it and said he had to go talk to his superior. 
CBP: I see that when u applied in 2014 you didn't also say you were going for childbirth and you only declared when the VO asked you if you will be using the visa for childbirth and your response was if granted visa, I will like to have my baby in the US. You got to the US and stayed there for 3months meaning you didn't use the visa for the purpose.‎
Friend: sir, when I got to the US, I decided to use the opportunity to look for a hospital and after I met with the DR, she insisted that I shouldn't go back. I was due in March and baby came early February. 
CBP: well I might have to send you back to Apply for B2 cos you should have stated it during renewal this time and my friend said there was no option for that then CBP said why are u talking about option when you told me your husband filled the form? 
Friend: I know becos I helped my mum fill her form sir before she knew it their boxes were brought to them and they started searching evrything piece by piece but they found nothing in their boxes. 
CBP: so where will you all(husband, mum, son n herslf)  be staying in d US? 
Friend: my uncle's plc and he's a medical DR.
CBP: how long do u intend to stay there?
Friend: 2months sir
CBP: I'm going to give u 2 extra days to leave the US then he stamped her husband and her mum in for 6months.

In my opinion, twas a narrow one cos she told me that the CBP said he only let her go cos his superior said so and he must ve called them over 15times to ask diff questions. He only let them go 15mins before departure.. she said they were there for 3hrs in total.‎

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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 4 by LadyGuinivere: 9:45pm On Aug 11, 2016
Lesson to Learn.
When applying for dropbox, kuku fill hospital and doctor name. CBPs are not smiling again for the ' I didn't see space to declare childbirth' story

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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 4 by happytbaby: 9:54pm On Aug 11, 2016
Iru oshisko rada rada wo ni yen? Sorry for my Yoruba, just dont know how to express myself in English. I am just amazed that someone would do that to herself because of money.

I booked Arik to save cost and other reasons but as prudent as I am I know that sometimes you just have to spend money to save yourself stress. As it is, its still paining me that I booked hotel of 300dollars to spend the day after landing in NY in order to rest before taking off early next morning. I am gonna be paying for 2nights is why its that much.

Abi my people, how am I gonna clear POE by 6am and wait till 3pm to check in to hotel with toddler, belle and grandma? I had to book the previous night join so we can get check in early morning.

No be by force to born for America now, as it is; a lot of people have high bp on getting there because of the long flights we take not to now talk of 16hour bus ride!






Virtuousdiva:


Thank God say mama and pikin never die before. As we are still talking about this issue some people will still use him when other drs still dey the hospital to choose from.. This drs issue for me is the same as the story of the woman who went to birth in Alabama and took arik from lagos to new york just for the POE stamp and 6 months entry and then used those big GO BUS in US to drive to alabama for 16hrs plus and before she got to alabama,she started having serious contractions,kept suppresssing it until it became to much and they had to stop in a nearby city to be attended to for extra money(true story)..which kain money una dey they try save. High BP is real ooo, Stress is a fast killer too.The people wey i go pluck cane for na for the husbands wey go allow their wives to even go through this kind of things.Biko its not by force to born dia ooo. how can you hear these stories and push her to go forth to dr popular when your money can fetch you another option or save money for baby shopping so that she will enter bus from POE or allow her to enter 54-60hr flight plus connection and waiting time because it was the cheapest you saw. I pray none of us enter fox news or one wicked documentary in US before this election,we will then give them reason to vote Donald Trump.
MAY GOD GIVE US WISDOM.

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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 4 by happytbaby: 10:13pm On Aug 11, 2016
You are right. I wish I had done that. All will be well though.



LadyGuinivere:
Lesson to Learn.
When applying for dropbox, kuku fill hospital and doctor name. CBPs are not smiling again for the ' I didn't see space to declare childbirth' story
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 4 by nefertitiram: 10:13pm On Aug 11, 2016
slimwendy85:
@isysleek: those doctors gave up on a lot Nigerians around the time I went in June 2015. What I heard, emphasis on what I heard was, they were tired of Nigerians concealing information, and expecting them to perform magic. For example, someone who knew she had placenta previous from Nigeria, would claim her pregnancy was going well, knowing full well there were issues, and would refuse to go for a scan. Bottomline, they stopped taking Nigerian patients. About hospital, they still use delsol, but there is now an option of another hospital, Sierra Province at downtown. This development came up after I left because delsol started treating people badly and we complained. Yes, was a victim. I had a normal delivery, went 3 weeks later, was told my account was clear and my zero balance would be processed. 6 weeks after, was told I was owing 18 dollars, but the system couldn't tell what it was for. Then lab sent bills to almost everyone for mother n baby. In fact the bill came like 2 days before I left, a lot of people had even left when the bill came, and had to start calling to find out of they were owing, which h of cause they were told they were owing. If I didn't have contacts of people, they wouldn't know they were owing. I guess the feedbacks started getting bad. May be wrong sha.....

Lemme guess? They are white doctors. I'm sure Dr aFrica would av continued to take patients if he was in dia shoes! Greed!

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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 4 by olokings(m): 10:14pm On Aug 11, 2016
@Nerf....
Corner eyeing things....
Lol
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 4 by telias: 10:36pm On Aug 11, 2016
slimwendy85:
@ Vlesparza, well, guess the first question I should have asked before answering was if hubby would be in Elpaso with her. If he won't, and she needs it signed, and sent from Nigeria, then it should be by a notary public at the American embassy in Nigeria. If he would be in el Paso with her, then your advice is in order. grin
If husband is in El Paso, no need to notarize. Notaries are only required when one parent is absent hence the document is sent from where the other parent is.
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 4 by telias: 10:53pm On Aug 11, 2016
Hello house. Who has done a visa on arrival successfully? How did you board the plane?
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 4 by MzYemie(f): 11:15pm On Aug 11, 2016
Wow ,that's sad.. They charged almost 2k just to watch you for 2 hrs?That's actually a legit fear of mine, I'm using Methodist and Dr Z, God help me. Congratulations on your bundle of joy
[quote author=blueberryy post=48377109]Hello everyone, I had my baby a month ago at
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 4 by ezigbozi: 12:35am On Aug 12, 2016
MzYemie:
Congratulations to you. I am using the same Dr and hospital in a couple of weeks, I'd like to PM you if you don't mind. Thanks

Hello dear,how are you and your little one? In terms of paper work for the baby, Pls how long did it take for both the Baby's birth certificate and American passport.looking forward to your reply. Thank you
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 4 by Posh404: 12:46am On Aug 12, 2016
Now i can go to bed. God bless all mommas contributing to this thread, also congratulations to all new mums.
I hope to give back to the thread soon. What a wonderful thread
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 4 by AdomMum: 3:01am On Aug 12, 2016
Oh kk...clarification alright!
megastu:


Sorry oh. I am not an agent. I am always off and on Nairaland. The hospital is Methodist, sugar land and doctors vary. Prices usually range the same around that axis. I only give contact of the house i have stayed in houston, that's all. smiley
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 4 by bolof2010: 6:55am On Aug 12, 2016
Hello, please does anyone know how much GTB is charging for online transaction i mean bank rate for international transactions....thanks
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 4 by firsttymum(f): 8:46am On Aug 12, 2016
This is third hand poe Gist as it happened to a friend's friend. In no particular order

After pleasantries...

Cbp why are you here
Lady to have my baby
Cbp how long do I intend to stay
Cbp where wld u be staying
Cbp how much do u have on u
Cbp I'm sending you over to bla bla then he calls someone who then took her.


After pleasantries
U got ur visa in January for vacation and didn't use it why?
Lady. because work wldnt let me
Cbp. He got so pissed and said that's what you all say. If it's not ur work it's your husband's job or u feel ill and cldnt travel. Now you will show me the change of intent letter. Do u know that's a generic response?
Lady. No I didn't.
Cbp. Have u contacted a Dr
Lady. Yes and she hands over her correspondence From Dr F
Cbp. In d whole of Houston is this Dr d only Dr there
Lady. No but I like his reviews
Cbp. Leaves and comes back with 2 other people
They now search her bags and stuffs with her.
They start questioning her asking same questions in different ways.
Next thing they gave her her stuffs and they Told her to follow one guy like that. She was put with other people. Not aware of what and why she's there after like one hour she asked the other pregnant women there.
It was at that point she realized she was being deported. And there were not less than 6 or 7 pregnant women there.
They called her again to sign something which she refused
Before u know their flight was ready that's how she got back to Naija.
It was then she saw her visa had been cancelled.
She has a UK visa so she went to the UK a week later to have her baby.
Donno if she has given birth yet.

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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 4 by Nobody: 8:47am On Aug 12, 2016
bolof2010:
Hello, please does anyone know how much GTB is charging for online transaction i mean bank rate for international transactions....thanks

they charged me 370 as at aug 10th angry

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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 4 by firsttymum(f): 9:02am On Aug 12, 2016
They were guys in that place too... One man was just crying en.... Loudly.

And there was a Dr who examined all d pregnant women. She said she didn't believe it was happening to her. It was like a dream. Her hubby didn't even let anyone know she was back dey booked a flight to the UK asap.
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 4 by firsttymum(f): 9:06am On Aug 12, 2016
Where are the lawyers

Is this even legal to hold a pregnant woman that long. Or to deport a pregnant woman?
What about emotional trauma. Or stress induced htn or problems related to pregnancy...
I know it's their right they determine who enters... But is this legal?
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 4 by firsttymum(f): 9:07am On Aug 12, 2016
[quote author=priscai post=48390315][/quote] I used her too... And I love her... But people used her and regretted it
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 4 by slimwendy85: 9:15am On Aug 12, 2016
Firsttymum , please what poe was this. Houston? So sad, and definitely traumatic.
[quote author=firsttymum post=48410600]Where are the lawyers
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 4 by Nobody: 9:24am On Aug 12, 2016
firsttymum:
Where are the lawyers

Is this even legal to hold a pregnant woman that long. Or to deport a pregnant woman?
What about emotional trauma. Or stress induced htn or problems related to pregnancy...
I know it's their right they determine who enters... But is this legal?
actually different laws in different countries, what is a law in America no be law for Nigeria, on another note law & sentiment don't mix at all, ignorance is never an excuse in the sight of the law ,so the law has to be enforced whatsoever, i'm sure those in Houston(officers) won't want to act ultravires because their job will be at stake .

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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 4 by Nobody: 9:28am On Aug 12, 2016
Firsttymum if you watch all these border security reality shows on cbs r, you will see heavily pregnant women being drug peddlers, drugs worth millions of dollars, i'm sure all these things put together has made them more merciless towards the pregnant women.
I watched one a woman 8 months gone with toddler carried drugs that the street value was 5million dollars, hid the drugs in the sole of her shoes when she landed she was forming tired pregnant pregnant just imagine

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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 4 by LadyGuinivere: 9:36am On Aug 12, 2016
firsttymum:
Where are the lawyers

Is this even legal to hold a pregnant woman that long. Or to deport a pregnant woman?
What about emotional trauma. Or stress induced htn or problems related to pregnancy...
I know it's their right they determine who enters... But is this legal?
Yes it is. The law is clear. This is our country. We reserve the right on whom to allow in. We have guidelines on what steps you can take to be allowed in. People now walk the grey line and wish to have all go easy peasy.
From your story, she was not maltreated. She had a doctor examine her so it was determined she was fit to return.
If her fundamental rights were breached (which in my opinion it wasn't) she can decide to contact her lawyer and they decide the appros action to take . But all that na outside America cos like I said earlier, they reserve the right to let her in and she wasn't.
Stress? Her rights end where the rights of country starts.
It is reasonable to know that travelling during pregnancy comes with certain factors. She took that risk. Her doctor certified her fit to fly. She was aware of immigration laws. When you add all that, mbok she has no cause of action.
If on the other hand her visa was acquired for birthing purposes then it would be unreasonale to deport her and would be an international incident . You can even bring in discrimination and bias in....
Nigerians, the solution is total honesty. We have given ourselves bad names patapata. See the man even knew our default story sef. I busy. I write letter. Letter of intent o ogwo nno oya? ( Is it the solution to all?)
Our country is messed up and we are all hustling for a better future for our kids. So let's go the extra mile to secure it. #myopinion

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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 4 by mumdearest: 9:42am On Aug 12, 2016
Hello all Preggy mamas and papas in the house.

Any one planning to travel soon might find this info useful.

Emirate and Virgin Airlines are having a promo flight on wakanow to the USA. But you will have to call their office to book.

I just received a mail from them and i dont have further information.

Just think i should share.

i think their flight to LA is about 376k and Atlanta is 393k.

Regards.

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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 4 by ozycy: 10:04am On Aug 12, 2016
Congratulations blueberry, thank GOD you and baby are fine.
They are always in a haste the rush the whole process, why didn't she leave you to progress on your own since you and baby we're doing just fine. I remember my doc telling the nurse to bring oxytocin when I was almost 10cm you need to see the way I wanted to bring down the hospital with shout of "" I don't want oxytocin """ I can't recall how many times I kept shouting it and she quickly agreed. E no reach 5mins after that baby came out on her own without the normal push push push drama.

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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 4 by chuchuo: 11:08am On Aug 12, 2016
I got it too. However the Atlanta has a 16 hour lay over at Heathrow which I don't like You all should confirm that the terms are okay for you before making payment.
mumdearest:
Hello all Preggy mamas and papas in the house.

Any one planning to travel soon might find this info useful.

Emirate and Virgin Airlines are having a promo flight on wakanow to the USA. But you will have to call their office to book.

I just received a mail from them and i dont have further information.

Just think i should share.

i think their flight to LA is about 376k and Atlanta is 393k.

Regards.
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 4 by XX01(f): 11:51am On Aug 12, 2016
16 hrs will be good if you have a UK visa.
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 4 by YoungMetrosG(f): 12:19pm On Aug 12, 2016
Chuchuo and XX01 are right, Heathrow airside doesn't work 24 hours. Anyone that has long layovers will have to go through passport control and only people with UK visas can do that.

The Virgin Atlantic flights to LAX land in LHR in the afternoon and leave for LAX in the morning, so anyone buying this definitely needs a UK visa. People considering this should look into flying to JFK as this will be more convenient.

@mumdearest


chuchuo:
I got it too. However the Atlanta has a 16 hour lay over at Heathrow which I don't like You all should confirm that the terms are okay for you before making payment.
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 4 by debby516(f): 1:13pm On Aug 12, 2016
Thanks. The recent POE stories are seriously touching ooo, God help we that are just embarking on the journey.
nana101:


I would say window seat or if in the middle Lane you stay inside. My reason is, no one disturbs me, I get to disturb them wen I want to take a walk or rest room. Think about it, my opinion thou.
Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 4 by debby516(f): 1:17pm On Aug 12, 2016
Lady G, how abt those who actually applied for B2 visa from the onset and got b1/b2 visa stamped on their passport? I shld kuku take my DS-160 along to show them wat i applied for, abi?
LadyGuinivere:

Yes it is. The law is clear. This is our country. We reserve the right on whom to allow in. We have guidelines on what steps you can take to be allowed in. People now walk the grey line and wish to have all go easy peasy.
From your story, she was not maltreated. She had a doctor examine her so it was determined she was fit to return.
If her fundamental rights were breached (which in my opinion it wasn't) she can decide to contact her lawyer and they decide the appros action to take . But all that na outside America cos like I said earlier, they reserve the right to let her in and she wasn't.
Stress? Her rights end where the rights of country starts.
It is reasonable to know that travelling during pregnancy comes with certain factors. She took that risk. Her doctor certified her fit to fly. She was aware of immigration laws. When you add all that, mbok she has no cause of action.
If on the other hand her visa was acquired for birthing purposes then it would be unreasonale to deport her and would be an international incident . You can even bring in discrimination and bias in....
Nigerians, the solution is total honesty. We have given ourselves bad names patapata. See the man even knew our default story sef. I busy. I write letter. Letter of intent o ogwo nno oya? ( Is it the solution to all?)
Our country is messed up and we are all hustling for a better future for our kids. So let's go the extra mile to secure it. #myopinion

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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 4 by LadyGuinivere: 1:40pm On Aug 12, 2016
debby516:
Lady G, how abt those who actually applied for B2 visa from the onset and got b1/b2 visa stamped on their passport? I shld kuku take my DS-160 along to show them wat i applied for, abi?

1. Option A. Apply for Childbirth. Most prolly ist visa. Straight forward. Visa transcript speaks for itself. No issues.

2. Option B. Renew while pregnant for childbirth. No interview but ample opportunity and spaces in ds 160 to declare eg- Contact person, address, duration of stay. One cant fill 3 weeks then get to poe and say 'ehhh no space to declare' undecided

3. Option C. Renew before pregnancy.
Now this is the unique situation and the only place IMO that Notification of Intent applies. U may/may not have used the visa before the missionary journey but any CBP can do the math and the traveller can explain.

So if you applied for medical and still get the generic B1/B2, your interview transcript speaks for itself. In this FTM's story the Lady got her visa for just vacation and I believe she was pregnant then. And didn't declare That was the issue/reason for deportation
Finally. The day that Letter of intent is no longer worth the paper its printed upon is finally upon us. Let us observe a moment of silence cheesy

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Re: Give Birth In USA: Cost And Procedures Part 4 by quin9(f): 2:12pm On Aug 12, 2016
[quote author=bolof2010 post=48407407]Hello, please does anyone know how much GTB is charging for online transaction i mean bank rate for international transactions....thanks


Was charged 376 on Tuesday

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