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Why Did Jesus Have To Die? by MrPresident1: 2:03am On Aug 14, 2016 |
Premise 1: The original Israelites of the Bible are dark-skinned people Lamentations 4:8 Premise 2: Jesus died to redeem the nation of Israel, and the world. John 1 1 in the beginning was the word, and the word was with god, and the word was god. |
Re: Why Did Jesus Have To Die? by MrPresident1: 2:05am On Aug 14, 2016 |
There was a covenant of marriage between God and Israel (the Negroes). Deuteronomy 26:17-19 Thou hast avouched the LORD this day to be thy God, and to walk in his ways, and to keep his statutes, and his commandments, and his judgments, and to hearken unto his voice: 18 And the LORD hath avouched thee this day to be his peculiar people, as he hath promised thee, and that thou shouldest keep all his commandments; 19 And to make thee high above all nations which he hath made, in praise, and in name, and in honour; and that thou mayest be an holy people unto the LORD thy God, as he hath spoken. Ezekiel 16:8 Now when I passed by thee, and looked upon thee, behold, thy time was the time of love; and I spread my skirt over thee, and covered thy unclothedness: yea, I sware unto thee, and entered into a covenant with thee, saith the Lord GOD, and thou becamest mine. |
Re: Why Did Jesus Have To Die? by MrPresident1: 2:06am On Aug 14, 2016 |
But this covenant was breached when Israel committed adultery serially against God. Isaiah 1:21 How is the faithful city become an harlot! it was full of judgment; righteousness lodged in it; but now murderers. Jeremiah 3:8 And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also. Ezekiel 23:20 For she doted upon their paramours, whose flesh is as the flesh of asses, and whose issue is like the issue of horses. |
Re: Why Did Jesus Have To Die? by MrPresident1: 2:07am On Aug 14, 2016 |
She committed gross evil, the children she bore for God, she sacrificed them to devils Ezekiel 16:20-21 Moreover thou hast taken thy sons and thy daughters, whom thou hast borne unto me, and these hast thou sacrificed unto them to be devoured. Is this of thy whoredoms a small matter, 21 That thou hast slain my children, and delivered them to cause them to pass through the fire for them? Ezekiel 16:22 And in all thine abominations and thy whoredoms thou hast not remembered the days of thy youth, when thou wast naked and bare, and wast polluted in thy blood. |
Re: Why Did Jesus Have To Die? by MrPresident1: 2:09am On Aug 14, 2016 |
The punishment for adultery for a woman is death, Israel must die because she has sinned John 8:3-5 3 And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst, 4 They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act. 5 Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou? But if the husband loves his wife so much and does not wish her to die, the practical thing he has to do to save her life is for him to die, this automatically frees the woman from the curse of the law. According to the law, death is the punishment for adultery. So this is why God incarnated in Jesus Christ. God the Word, incarnated in Jesus the man, through the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. Jesus became anointed with the word of God, he married Israel by becoming her king John 12:13, then as king, he died; and descended into hell. John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. John 10:30 I and my Father are one. |
Re: Why Did Jesus Have To Die? by MrPresident1: 2:11am On Aug 14, 2016 |
He came for her and died for her to live. In the time when he has been away, Israel (Negroes) his wife has been a widow (this is the great tribulation) Deuteronomy 31:18, he is coming back to marry and comfort her, the coming marriage of Jesus with his church (lineage Israel and non lineage Israel) will end the widowhood of Israel, the original woman of God. Next time when you sing ‘Jesus loves me, he died for me, nobody loves me like Jesus’, Or ‘All the way to Calvary he went for me, he went for me, he went for me, all the way to Calvary he went for me, he died to set me free’. Sing it with understanding that YOU are the one he died for, not some peoplemin some far flung place. ![]() |
Re: Why Did Jesus Have To Die? by shuggah(m): 6:58am On Aug 14, 2016 |
Op u re a Lil bit confused.. read verse 7 of the Bible passage u posted.. as for why Jesus had to die, since u could dig out lamentations 4:8,u can also dig it out. |
Re: Why Did Jesus Have To Die? by MrPresident1: 1:26pm On Aug 14, 2016 |
shuggah: Lamentations 4:7 Her Nazarites were purer than snow, they were whiter than milk, they were more ruddy in body than rubies, their polishing was of sapphire: Her Nazarites were purer than snow...was not talking about the complexion of the Nazarites, it was talking about the SPIRITUAL STATE of the Nazarites. Nazarites are persons who have dedicated themselves to God to remain pure and white (holy). Judges 13:7 But he said unto me, Behold, thou shalt conceive, and bear a son; and now drink no wine nor strong drink, neither eat any unclean [thing]: for the child shall be a Nazarite to God from the womb to the day of his death. ruddy in body than rubies...suggests that they were healthy and bristling with life. David was also described as ruddy. When you eat good food like the one described in Deuteronomy 32:13-14 and you are exposed to very good sunshine like the sun of righteousness Malachi 4:2 (not the kind of sun shinning in our day with strange polarity) and you have peace round about from your enemies, no fear no stress Deuteronomy 5:29, you will become ruddy and flush with health, life, vitality and life giving blood. their polishing was of sapphire...means that they were glowing, they were shining ![]() Then we go to verse 8 where their VISAGE is now described when the presence of God had left them. Lamentations 4:8 Their visage is blacker than a coal; they are not known in the streets: their skin cleaveth to their bones; it is withered, it is become like a stick. |
Re: Why Did Jesus Have To Die? by MrPresident1: 1:54pm On Aug 14, 2016 |
Analice107, Happy Sunday ![]() Coman tell me what you think ![]() |
Re: Why Did Jesus Have To Die? by analice107: 4:10pm On Aug 14, 2016 |
MrPresident1:Do you even know the calendar age we are right now? Christ' return is eminent and all you keep talking about are outlandish theories and concepts. Guy, look around you. Do better by preaching the gospel that will prepare and encourage believers to face the persecution that is arising and shall arise fiercely against them in due time as believers in Christ. Warn the unsaved from the impending doom ahead of us. If we miss Christ, Hmmm. No one, both the Adherents to the N.W.O or the neutrals, it won't be a walk in the park. I have tried to follow you up, you don't say anything I can glean from as a believer in Christ. It's well. |
Re: Why Did Jesus Have To Die? by MrPresident1: 4:31pm On Aug 14, 2016 |
analice107: Hahahahahaha ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Babe, 100% of my threads are proclaming the imminent coming Christ, I am perhaps the most strident proclaimer of this fact on Nairaland ![]() Yeah, it is well, you cannot glean anything from me? It is very well ![]() Let us all continue to proclaim the coming of Christ in our fortes ![]() |
Re: Why Did Jesus Have To Die? by analice107: 7:05pm On Aug 14, 2016 |
MrPresident1:Hmmmm. |
Re: Why Did Jesus Have To Die? by MrPresident1: 7:21pm On Aug 14, 2016 |
analice107: Lemme tell you a secret *looks around furtively* see ehn, with the election of Oga @ d top as president, Nigeria is now fully part of the N.W.O, or why did you think Obama donated his personal campaign manager to oga's campaign? Oga is the head of the NWO in Nigeria and perhaps in Africa. Nigeria is now fully plugged into the NWO matrix. One time when oga came back from a trip to America, he was welcomed like an emperor, with military guards and displays and all at the airport, hehehehe, it was welcome back for the emperor! Nigeria is now being governed as part of 'the world' ![]() If not for God who decreed our victory over the forces of evil, these NWO people have their hands completely around our balls. Christ will reign and all this nonsenses will be well requited and recompensed! ![]() |
Re: Why Did Jesus Have To Die? by MrPresident1: 7:45pm On Aug 14, 2016 |
shuggah: Why do you sing 'Jesus loves me, he died for me, nobody loves me like Jesus in your church' ? |
Re: Why Did Jesus Have To Die? by analice107: 7:57pm On Aug 14, 2016 |
MrPresident1:Na today? But it's well. |
Re: Why Did Jesus Have To Die? by MrPresident1: 8:02pm On Aug 14, 2016 |
analice107: It is well, yeah. Meanwhile, why did Jesus come to die? I need to hear your perspective ![]() |
Re: Why Did Jesus Have To Die? by analice107: 9:59pm On Aug 14, 2016 |
MrPresident1:Jesus died to restore the fellowship, the communion and the relationship Adam lost in Eden. When that happened man was cut off, alienated, separated and all communication with God ceased. What this means is that, the Holy Spirit who was indwelling Adam at creation, which enabled Adam to connect with God, left him The bridge (The Holy Spirit) which connected Man and God was removed, leaving Man empty and that vacuum in man necessitated the indwelling of strange spirits. Around the world, we see what those spirits have engineered men to do. However, God didn't leave men without hope. The hope is the restoration of that bridge to enable man connect him again, but that couldn't be done without a sacrifice. God can not go back on his words, even when it came to what affected him personally, he still kept to his words. His word says, "The Wages of sin is dead". Man caused his dead by himself, but Jehovah on his own determined to save man, but in doing that, must subject himself to his own laws, someone must die, for the wages of sin to be paid for. Who was then fit to die since every human on earth was sinful and blood full of blemish? The incarnation was then necessary. So, a spirit had to take up flesh, but in a way that won't permit the blood of the living to interfere. Thus, Christ's Virgin. Then death by shedding his blood which was offered back to God to appease for sin. So, Christ died to restore man back to where he fell from. |
Re: Why Did Jesus Have To Die? by Isaacmacdon(m): 12:28am On Aug 15, 2016 |
analice107:very precise and direct. JESUS IS LORD. No matter what anyone thinks. |
Re: Why Did Jesus Have To Die? by analice107: 8:58am On Aug 15, 2016 |
Isaacmacdon:My dear, he who has no testimony and revelations about God can go on wagging their tongues. I know in whom I have believed. JESUS IS LORD FOR EVER. 1 Like |
Re: Why Did Jesus Have To Die? by Isaacmacdon(m): 9:39am On Aug 15, 2016 |
analice107:Indeed he is. |
Re: Why Did Jesus Have To Die? by MrPresident1: 4:34pm On Aug 15, 2016 |
analice107: You have to provide Scriptures to back up your presentation ![]() ![]() |
Re: Why Did Jesus Have To Die? by analice107: 6:06pm On Aug 15, 2016 |
MrPresident1:That's going to be so long. I will try and find time for that |
Re: Why Did Jesus Have To Die? by Ranchhoddas: 8:51pm On Aug 15, 2016 |
MrPresident1:Which Oga are you talking about? Is it Buhari? |
Re: Why Did Jesus Have To Die? by Ranchhoddas: 8:52pm On Aug 15, 2016 |
MrPresident1:What is this? Are you saying that Jesus will come in October? |
Re: Why Did Jesus Have To Die? by analice107: 11:02pm On Aug 15, 2016 |
Ranchhoddas:You heard His Excellency. So, be very afraid, Jesus is coming back by October. 1 Like |
Re: Why Did Jesus Have To Die? by Ranchhoddas: 11:08pm On Aug 15, 2016 |
analice107:Why should I be afraid? |
Re: Why Did Jesus Have To Die? by MrPresident1: 12:05am On Aug 16, 2016 |
analice107: I have been tracking the coming of Christ for a while now ![]() Now, I can say with a measure of confidence that Rosh Hashanah in October 2016 is the cutoff period for the completion of all things, or max 20th of January 2016; Christ will come before president Obama leaves office. As world events continue to unfold, I know that I am on the right track. |
Re: Why Did Jesus Have To Die? by analice107: 12:35pm On Aug 16, 2016 |
MrPresident1:Hmmm. Your Excellency, I don't know where u r getting your info from, but am totally not with u on this. BTW, 20th January 2016 has past 7 Months ago. |
Re: Why Did Jesus Have To Die? by analice107: 12:50pm On Aug 16, 2016 |
Ranchhoddas:I take it back. U shdnt be afraid. You have volunteered as a recruit to the One World Army as it is. All is left now is to pick the number. |
Re: Why Did Jesus Have To Die? by Ranchhoddas: 1:05pm On Aug 16, 2016 |
analice107:Na the two of us go volunteer abi? Let's wait till October. |
Re: Why Did Jesus Have To Die? by MrPresident1: 4:17pm On Aug 16, 2016 |
analice107: Hehehe ![]() So if by first week of October Christ is not here yet, I assure you, sure banker, Christ will be here max. 20th January 2017. And actually, the information is from the Bible, and I made a thread for it, a very critical prophecy and sign that Paul gave us to look out that will signal the coming of Christ is being fulfilled by Obama>>> 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4 3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. See this thread and see how how the Holy Spirit interpreted the connection to me https://www.nairaland.com/2991715/falling-away-revelation-son-perdition |
Re: Why Did Jesus Have To Die? by analice107: 4:58pm On Aug 16, 2016 |
MrPresident1:Hahahahahahahaha Pls stop. No man can predict the coming of Christ. Just like no man can predict when thieves will raid his house, so it shall be with the coming of our Saviour. All that is needed is to prepare and wait. These world leaders are only stooges in the hands of Providence. It's been prophesied, these things must happen, but just like the Bible says in Romans 6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness? The leaders who have yielded themselves to serve Satan shall he used to further the fulfillment of those prophesies. The N. W. O. has been around and rolling. Things setting up to usher in the administration of the Antichrist. But as long as the Holy Spirit's presence is still here on earth, all they can do is bark behind the scene. When the Holy Spirit departs (we do not see Spirits, so we can't determine or detect his movement) one day we will wake up and he will be gone. The only evidence will be chaos. Chaos that will make all the crisis in the world pale in comparison. But, until then, no one can predict and get it. That is what I call, "THE SECRET THAT GOD KEPT". |
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