KingEbukasBlog:


Albert Einstein was a deist . He rejected the idea of a personal god which is a religious concept but admitted to the existence of a supernatural being or creator . Read up deism , some scientists are deists .

stephenmorris:
albert einstein moved between deism,atheism and pantheism one thing was certain my brother he wasn't a christian or a believer of the abrahamic faiths

KingEbukasBlog:


Albert Einstein was a deist . He rejected the idea of a personal god which is a religious concept but admitted to the existence of a supernatural being or creator . Read up deism , some scientists are deists .

KingEbukasBlog:


Einstein was a deist .End of story . He was never an atheist

Seun:


Einstein's response to the claim that he believes in God:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Albert_Einstein

mekkfreshboy:


Albert Einstein's religious views have been studied extensively. He said he believed in the "pantheistic" God of Baruch Spinoza ( Baruch was Jewish), but not in a personal god, a belief he criticized. He also called himself an agnostic, while disassociating himself from the label atheist, preferring, he said, "an attitude of humility corresponding to the weakness of our intellectual understanding of nature and of our own being.

He was not an Atheist, He believed in Intelligent design. I refer to what you call God as the "Eternal" or "Divine" and my concept of a Divine creator is different almost akin to Spinoza's view but not the same( I am Jewish). I believe that the Creator placed certain Laws and boundaries in the Universe. I am skeptical about magics and miracles purported today by self acclaimed men of God in Nigeria and based on my understanding of the physical properties of the Earth I know for sure that the so called called witches in Benin city where I reside are incapable of defying the Laws of gravity etc unless they can prove me otherwise. We have our limitations as Humans and so does Science.


I also reiterate that I am a proponent of making the world a better place for mankind to live. I am more interested in your actions than on what you believe in. whether you are Atheist or Theist try as much as you can to contribute in making the world a better place and living a moral life.

stephenmorris:
mekkfreshboy what do u want brother,do u want a life whereby you will take full responsibility for your life if that is it, then you are on the part of atheism or freedom of religion ,its your choice and choose wisely know the consequences of your actions and move on with life ,all i will say is i won't choose for you but i hope you make a decision that will affect your generations yet unborn positively.
and if you ever choose atheism or freedom from religion get a copy of Ralph waldo Emerson book titled ''self reliance''

DeSepiero:


That's a good response Sire

annunaki2:
@OP Albert einstein was not an atheist, he believed in 'intelligent design'.

Atheism is certainly not the way, it just doesn't make sense. Agnotism or deism could be tolerated though.

PDBonline:

except that EVERYTHING in your life makes perfect sense. That's a statement in ecstasy. If that's true what's the cause of high suicide rate among atheists?

mekkfreshboy:


I oppose religious extremism but my QUESTION remains “Is Atheism the way forward? How exactly can lack of belief in a Divine creator add meaning to your life and make the society a better place. What exactly do Nigerian Atheists believe in?

Atheists in the House should please enlighten me. Thanks

DeSepiero:

What's your argument?

PDBonline:

Responding to the statement that everything makes sense when one becomes an atheist. That's a statement far from reality.

DeSepiero:



Hahaha interesting! Who made the statement? Kindly refresh my memory.
Maybe you're misunderstanding the speaker's perspective, maybe. That statement has a point though.

mekkfreshboy:




I am familiar with the basics of EVOLUTION and Cosmology and the FACT is that you can not logically prove beyond reasonable doubt that the universe happened by chance neither can you provide proof to support your claim on the non existence of a Divine creator.

Atheism does not always mean rationality and critical thinking, I have read threads on Nairaland where professed Atheists believed that some figures mentioned in the Hebrew Scriptures were aliens from another planets and all sort of gibberish.

And just like Winner01 said "Theists ushered in the very rational thinking that atheists seek to be affiliated with". My religious traditions does not in any way hinder me from been rational, critical and analytical on life decisions that I make which are in basis with reality. I am as much as objective and logical minded as you are, but where we path ways is that I believe in Intelligent Design and in a Divine creator, My idea of an Eternal creator might be different from most people's concept of God. I am not superstitious, I dont believe in magics.

I am aware that there are a lot of gullibility in this part of the world. Most Black Africans are not enlightened hence Religious Houses here exploits their ignorance for their own selfish gains. Politicians exploits our ignorance as well because majority of us are not enlightened.

Enlightenment is what I feel Nigerians need and not Atheism. I hope you do have respect for traditional institutions. Religion is a very personal thing. Atheism is diverse, I do not know which group in Atheism you fall into. And I see nothing wrong in a Woman who wears hijab, She has the right to do so if that is part of her religious obligations, It is better than a woman walking about scanty dressed. Personally I dont eat Pork.
Science has little to do with morality but Religion addresses the issues of morality.

I follow your threads and read most of your write up. Do you really want a society where sexual promiscuity are promoted? where girls are free to walk about dressed half dressed?

We need ENLIGHTENMENT OF THE MIND.

LaDolceVita:


Einstein didn't believe in intelligent design what are you on about. He was an atheist. A simple google search can resolve this i don't know why people just choose to believe a warped reality that suits their prior beliefs.

winner01:
It is perfectly rational to believe in the existence of an Almighty Creator. Every Single item in our world was intelkigently designed. In reality, time and chance does not create anything. Atheists got it wrong in the most basic way: "If the universe has no meaning or reason for existing, we should never have found out that it has no meaning".

Atheism is not a system of thinking, it is a "lack of belief", at least as the atheists claim. It has nothing to do with rational thinking. Theists ushered in the very rational thinking that atheists seek to be affiliated with. Rene Descateres was the first mordern rationalist, Sir Francis Bacon (the founder
of applied science) inspired the mordern scientific attitude that favours skepticism, systematic observation and verification of
claims by independent empirical observations, and many other theists. The fact that critical thinking is parroted by atheists severally does not make it so.



Religion has almost all the moral structures all over the world built around it, it is also not a system of thinking as you put it, it is the internal realization of more permanent values. Religion can be used for anything ranginging from peace to violence, just the same way politics, entertainment etc can be used for the same purposes. It is easier to get rid of the latter than religion. Religion is a part of humanity.

Good philisophy, it also stems from religion. The problem with atheism is the lack of basis for morality. Seun was talking about scholars who were working on ways to acheive better human relationship but failed to give reasons why people should listen to fellow humans. Not everyone wants to "live and let live", how do you handle such people?.
The power of religion can never be estimated and that is why it will continue to grow.


Intelligent Design is the default position. Everything we see in actuality is intelligently designed even when we do not know their designers. Those who blame the "flaws" in nature exhibit infinite knowledge i.e I do not know why this was created and so its a flaw. Its like doing the same thing they accuse theists for i.e I do not know how the universe got here but God must have created it. The only difference is that one position makes more sense than the other.
If i'm presented with a car engine, i may not know why it looks so dirty and oily or even the functions of certain parts, but it would be irrational to call it useless. On the other hand, If I'm presented with the same car engine, it would be irrational for me to say it came to existence by time or chance or accident or probability or fission of older metals etc.
Intelligent design is the default position, if atheists will convince the world otherwise, the must provide evidence, and it wont be some half-baked assumptions, fantasy or wild guesses backed by zero evidence.

Every normal person opposes extremism. Atheism is not the way forward. Atheists themselves cannot tell you what atheism has to offer. The best they can do is to side with irreligion, science etc.
History has shown that when you believe that religion is a disease that must be cured, there are extremism tendencies. Religion is a part of humanity. To seperate man from religion, you must be willing to exterminate in democidal quantities. (you can check some of my topics for proof.) Atheists are only angry that they are minority, and their number has been predicted to even fall over the next 50 years.

Be careful who you call on to "enlighten" you, for a blind person may not recognize the direction of light.