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| Re: Mrpresident1 Claims Christ'll Come on/b4 20/1/17,Doesn't This Refute His Claim? by MrPresident1: 12:50pm On Aug 19, 2016 |
4kings: Matthew 25:13 Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.  |
| Re: Mrpresident1 Claims Christ'll Come on/b4 20/1/17,Doesn't This Refute His Claim? by MrPresident1: 12:53pm On Aug 19, 2016 |
Ranchhoddas: Daniel 12:4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased This is the time of the end. True knowledge has come  |
| Re: Mrpresident1 Claims Christ'll Come on/b4 20/1/17,Doesn't This Refute His Claim? by MrPresident1: 12:54pm On Aug 19, 2016 |
analice107: Sweery, I am not understanding you  |
| Re: Mrpresident1 Claims Christ'll Come on/b4 20/1/17,Doesn't This Refute His Claim? by 4kings: 12:57pm On Aug 19, 2016 |
MrPresident1:What about Daniel's prophecies to nebuchadnezzar on the kingdoms of the world? |
| Re: Mrpresident1 Claims Christ'll Come on/b4 20/1/17,Doesn't This Refute His Claim? by Rilwayne001: 1:05pm On Aug 19, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog: Tell me about those things. Do you agree with him ? If not l why ? I need to know all that he said before I can answer your questions. |
| Re: Mrpresident1 Claims Christ'll Come on/b4 20/1/17,Doesn't This Refute His Claim? by analice107: 1:22pm On Aug 19, 2016 |
MrPresident1:This guy sha |
| Re: Mrpresident1 Claims Christ'll Come on/b4 20/1/17,Doesn't This Refute His Claim? by MrPresident1: 1:42pm On Aug 19, 2016 |
| Re: Mrpresident1 Claims Christ'll Come on/b4 20/1/17,Doesn't This Refute His Claim? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 1:48pm On Aug 19, 2016 |
MrPresident1: FearGodandLive , you floundered egregiously with this bible verse . A maven on sibyllic messages contained in the bible is here - you can argue with him . 1 Like |
| Re: Mrpresident1 Claims Christ'll Come on/b4 20/1/17,Doesn't This Refute His Claim? by analice107: 1:48pm On Aug 19, 2016 |
MrPresident1:No, don't bother |
| Re: Mrpresident1 Claims Christ'll Come on/b4 20/1/17,Doesn't This Refute His Claim? by MrPresident1: 1:49pm On Aug 19, 2016 |
4kings: Beasts in the Bible are used to describe powerful kingdoms and dominions that ruled/will rule over the earth. They are called beasts because they are not the kingdom of God, the kingdom of God is the dominion and rulership of Israel. So when Israel was conquered by the Babylons, the kingdom of God on earth ceased, and the kingdom of beasts came to power. The beast is also not a literal beast, beast in the Bible is used to describe the kingdoms that rose up to rule the earth when Israel was conquered, The beasts that arose from the sea in Daniels dream were four - the Lion with eagles wings was the kingdom of Babylon, the Bear with three ribs in its mouth was Persia, the Leopard with four wings of a foul was Greece, and the last beast with iron teeth is Rome, they all had dominion over the earth, and they were all called beasts. do not think of them as literal beasts, but as beastly kingdoms that arose when the kingdom of God was taken away. We are presently in the kingdom of the feet of iron mixed with clay. |
| Re: Mrpresident1 Claims Christ'll Come on/b4 20/1/17,Doesn't This Refute His Claim? by analice107: 2:07pm On Aug 19, 2016 |
MrPresident1:Who proved which point? God began with the seed and he picked the Israelites to be that seed and so shall it be. When u talk about the ancient Israelites you make it seem like at a point God got incapacitated to continue what he began. He scattered them by Himself, remember that. It wasn't happenstance that they got scattered. God scattered them in other to gather the gentles, and that has been done. He is well capable of gathering all his people back. Romans Chapters 9,10,and 11 addresses this matter extensively. The Israelites today are the Israelites of old. If you say they are a different tribe claiming to be Israelites, why are they returning to Judea? Why not to somewhere else. Mix multitudes can't stop God from doing what he had purposed to do before time began. They are still pure blooded Jews (The Remnant) amongst even the Western Jews today. Nothing has changed. If you think becos they have mixed multitude in their midst today that makes the covenant void, and the prophecies unfulfillable, then you still need to know in whom you have believed. NO MAN CAN RESIST HIS WILL... NO SITUATION CAN Arrow HIS PURPOSE... NO SYSTEM CAN DEFEAT HIS COUNSEL. IF He has said it, he will do it. |
| Re: Mrpresident1 Claims Christ'll Come on/b4 20/1/17,Doesn't This Refute His Claim? by analice107: 2:14pm On Aug 19, 2016 |
MrPresident1:When you say they remain scattered are you saying they can't be gathered back? Who scattered them in the first place and for what purpose? Guy, Yahweh Scattered his people. From time, whenever he wants them out of their land, he will foretell it and will tell them how long they will be out there, and when they will be gathered back. It has always been so. Nothing can subvert God's intent. Pls stop this outlandish theories let's preach the gospel of reconciliation. |
| Re: Mrpresident1 Claims Christ'll Come on/b4 20/1/17,Doesn't This Refute His Claim? by analice107: 2:16pm On Aug 19, 2016 |
Ranchhoddas:I no follow oo. This one? he is on his own. |
| Re: Mrpresident1 Claims Christ'll Come on/b4 20/1/17,Doesn't This Refute His Claim? by analice107: 3:22pm On Aug 19, 2016 |
4kings: Ask am ooo |
| Re: Mrpresident1 Claims Christ'll Come on/b4 20/1/17,Doesn't This Refute His Claim? by mcemmy0z: 4:45pm On Aug 19, 2016 |
analice107: Pls, do you know where they scatter to? |
| Re: Mrpresident1 Claims Christ'll Come on/b4 20/1/17,Doesn't This Refute His Claim? by analice107: 4:51pm On Aug 19, 2016 |
mcemmy0z:Do you have a Bible? |
| Re: Mrpresident1 Claims Christ'll Come on/b4 20/1/17,Doesn't This Refute His Claim? by mcemmy0z: 5:02pm On Aug 19, 2016 |
analice107: Is that the answer? |
| Re: Mrpresident1 Claims Christ'll Come on/b4 20/1/17,Doesn't This Refute His Claim? by analice107: 5:40pm On Aug 19, 2016 |
mcemmy0z:Your responds will determine my answer. |
| Re: Mrpresident1 Claims Christ'll Come on/b4 20/1/17,Doesn't This Refute His Claim? by MrPresident1: 11:59pm On Aug 19, 2016 |
analice107: You keep arguing and arguing but your arguments are without foundation and scripturally baseless. The true Israelites of the Bible are a darkskinned people who descended from ancient Mesopotamia, Abraham was from Ur of the Chaldees, and a native of Mesopotamia, all the civilisations in the Mesopotamian valley were black civilisation, this is a fact of history. The Israelis are not the Israelites of the Bible, and you must be willing to consider and accept this paradigm or else you may be in danger of resisting THE MOST HIGH GOD. This is what the Scriptures say concerning the gathering of Israel when the time comes, read the prophecy and stop arguing: [b] Ezekiel 37:21 21 And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land: 22 And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all: 23 Neither shall they defile themselves any more with their idols, nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions: but I will save them out of all their dwellingplaces, wherein they have sinned, and will cleanse them: so shall they be my people, and I will be their God. 24 And David my servant shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them. 25 And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, even they, and their children, and their children's children for ever: and my servant David shall be their prince for ever. 26 Moreover I will make a covenant of peace with them; it shall be an everlasting covenant with them: and I will place them, and multiply them, and will set my sanctuary in the midst of them for evermore. 27 My tabernacle also shall be with them: yea, I will be their God, and they shall be my people. 28 And the heathen shall know that I the LORD do sanctify Israel, when my sanctuary shall be in the midst of them for evermore. [/b] David (Jesus Christ) will be king over Israel, Israel will dwell in peace, the sanctuary of God will be in the midst of them forever; listen and consider, is David the king over the 'regathered' Israelis? Are the Israelis dwelling in peace are they not at war perpetually with their neighbours? is this what the prophecy says? the prophecy says God will make an everlasting covenant of peace of peace with Israel, is this covenant yet in place for your 'regathered Israelis'? The prophecy says that God will sanctify Israel and His sanctuary will be with them forever, is the sanctuary of God yet with your Israelis? It is incongruous and totally against the prophecy that 'regathered Israelis' are expecting the messiah because it is actually the coming of the messiah that should cause the regathering of Israel, not before! Any regathering before the coming of Christ is false, fake, lies, and evil! Mathew 24:30-31 30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. They shall gather his elect from the four winds when he comes, not before!!! Read and stop arguing!!!! Read!!! analice107: What mixed multitude are you talking about? The state of Israel does not allow 'non jewish' people to mix with its people, this is totally against the Bible, the Bible says it is the church that will be regathered, the church is made up of lineage Israel, and gentiles, so any regathering leaving out gentiles is fake! Or have you not read John 3:16? Christ died for the whole world not only for Israel (but for Israel first), so the regathering of true Israel will be of worthy jews and worthy gentiles, mixed! Your Israelis promote segregation, Christ died for the world, their regathering is fake! analice107: Isaiah 56:6-8 6 Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the LORD, to serve him, and to love the name of the LORD, to be his servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant; 7 Even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer: their burnt offerings and their sacrifices shall be accepted upon mine altar; for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people. 8 The Lord GOD which gathereth the outcasts of Israel saith, Yet will I gather others to him, beside those that are gathered unto him. This is Isaiah's prophecy concerning strangers who have chosen to do the will of God, Isaiah says when God brings again the outcasts of Israel, when He restores Israel to His Holy mountain, strangers will even have better name than sons. The house of God will be called an house of prayer for all people, is this true of your Israelis? Can you have greater right than an 'Israeli' in the 'state of Israel'? The point is that the coming of Israel will only happen when Christ returns! Without the return of Christ, any purported return is fake and lies! Stop arguing, read and try to understand scriptures  |
| Re: Mrpresident1 Claims Christ'll Come on/b4 20/1/17,Doesn't This Refute His Claim? by MrPresident1: 12:18am On Aug 20, 2016 |
analice107: The true Israel of God will only be regathered when Christ returns, not before. Any return before the coming of Christ is fake! Mark 13:26-27 26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory. 27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven. analice107: Who? Ezekiel 11:16 Therefore say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Although I have cast them far off among the heathen, and although I have scattered them among the countries, yet will I be to them as a little sanctuary in the countries where they shall come. Why? Ezekiel 36:19 And I scattered them among the heathen, and they were dispersed through the countries: according to their way and according to their doings I judged them. analice107: Babe, no one disputes the fact that God scattered His people, but the prophecy says they will be regathered only when Christ comes back, not before! Any regathering before Christ returns is not of the Scriptures. Israel remains scattered and until the coming of Christ, they will remain scattered. This is why we must eagerly expect the coming of Christ, because it means the release from slavery of God's people. Yes, true Israel are slaves where they are presently. Christ is coming to restore Israel, and also establish the kingdom of God on earth. analice107: I have told you severally that what I preach is not milk, this is not the principles of Christ Hebrews 6:1, this is the road to perfection, this is the tough meat and bones and sinews and ligaments of the Bible, it is not for babies. My teaching is not outlandish, and I am not propounding any theories, all you just need is to listen and open the Scriptures to read for yourself. But I assure you, this is not for the mentally lazy, you have to be strong, very strong mentally to see what I am saying. YAH is actually the only One who gives understanding, pray to Him for help to understand. |
| Re: Mrpresident1 Claims Christ'll Come on/b4 20/1/17,Doesn't This Refute His Claim? by MrPresident1: 12:22am On Aug 20, 2016 |
| Re: Mrpresident1 Claims Christ'll Come on/b4 20/1/17,Doesn't This Refute His Claim? by MrPresident1: 12:24am On Aug 20, 2016 |
analice107: His inquiry is answered already. |
| Re: Mrpresident1 Claims Christ'll Come on/b4 20/1/17,Doesn't This Refute His Claim? by EyeHateGod: 1:10am On Aug 20, 2016 |
KingEbukasBlog:Wow I didn't know Nero Was An Atheist  |
| Re: Mrpresident1 Claims Christ'll Come on/b4 20/1/17,Doesn't This Refute His Claim? by mcemmy0z: 7:04am On Aug 20, 2016 |
@analice107, MrPresident1 is right, they are not the isreal of today, that's what I wanted to confirm from him when I Started asking Him questions. If you are from Africa, I mean a real back you have to start reading your history book. I asked you where did they scatter to, u said I look at my Bible, but am going to tell you little about what I know. Which is the truth. The Israelite in question where black people, before the domination of light skin race, they are the ones who live In that particular area the today Israeli dominate now. They own the place because they were the true decedent of Yahweh. Due to the influence of the white Jews they where send off away from their land and scatter all over Africa, they came with their own believe To Africa which was different from the one Africans were already practicing before they came,so this made them distinqush themself from others. When slavery came down to Africa, because of the different in culture and believe, they were the picked out and sold for slavery. Thats why they said Africans sold themselves. Other Africans didn't like them nor fancy them because of the culture they brought alone. The black Africans in other part of the world Today , America, Brazil, Cuba are lost tribe of the isreal. But some still remain in Africa. I hope you understand my little explanation. |
| Re: Mrpresident1 Claims Christ'll Come on/b4 20/1/17,Doesn't This Refute His Claim? by analice107: 10:57am On Aug 20, 2016 |
mcemmy0z:Hahahahahahahaha. Very funny. So, the canaanites, the Jebusites, the Amorites, the Amalakites and the Philippines, the Syrians and the Assyrians where all black people who were over run by the White race? At what point in history did this happen? I mean, at what point did the Semitic race get lost? |
| Re: Mrpresident1 Claims Christ'll Come on/b4 20/1/17,Doesn't This Refute His Claim? by mcemmy0z: 4:47pm On Aug 20, 2016 |
analice107: You should ask yourself, who are the first inhabitants that lived in those places you mention. Am talking from the history of Africa . They all occupied those areas before white race begin to appear. |
| Re: Mrpresident1 Claims Christ'll Come on/b4 20/1/17,Doesn't This Refute His Claim? by MrPresident1: 7:36pm On Aug 20, 2016 |
KingEbukasblog Ebuka bia ne e ba , I want to smash your mind to pieces this evening, come bro, come here. Analice107 the argumentator, please keep away, me and Ebuka want to have a tete a tete . Ishilove is not invited please. |
| Re: Mrpresident1 Claims Christ'll Come on/b4 20/1/17,Doesn't This Refute His Claim? by Ishilove: 8:15pm On Aug 20, 2016 |
MrPresident1:Reverse psychology  |
| Re: Mrpresident1 Claims Christ'll Come on/b4 20/1/17,Doesn't This Refute His Claim? by MrPresident1: 8:20pm On Aug 20, 2016 |
| Re: Mrpresident1 Claims Christ'll Come on/b4 20/1/17,Doesn't This Refute His Claim? by analice107: 9:04pm On Aug 20, 2016 |
MrPresident1:If you don't want us there, why mention us in the first place? |
| Re: Mrpresident1 Claims Christ'll Come on/b4 20/1/17,Doesn't This Refute His Claim? by analice107: 9:14pm On Aug 20, 2016 |
mcemmy0z:Let me help you. Go to Google type in "Table of Nations" By Arthur Custance. It. Should help you with this your baseless theories. Talking about the pure blood Hebrews who are the descendants of Abraham. Was Abraham a black man? Remember he came from Ur or the Chaldees. Present day Iraq. (Not Arabs oo. Arabs just stole that land) |
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