Joshuabase:


Sadly, I don't believe you're European. I'm an atheist alright but this thread is a little too fishy.

JFAH:
And by the way, yes; I am european, northern part to be exact.

TrajansKong:


Another unbeliever here. For an English speaking Oyinbo your phrasing, tenses, noun-verb pairings and vocabulary speak most strongly of Naija!!

JFAH:


I am sorry, was that directed to me? Being Scandinavian english is my *secondary* language. Not primary. And there's a difference.

Ranchhoddas:
Why do I feel like this is another prank?

KingEbukasBlog:


Yet another foolish act from the atheists . Just to appear intelligent one claims he is a European as if his affiliation is tantamount to being intelligent

He could be truthman83

JFAH:


This is one of the common misconceptions; atheism is the position on the validity of available evidence for the proposed deity based hypothesis. The default position to take in absence of actual evidence is to not accept the proposition as true. In short it is the stance of a single question. It does not tell you anything else apart from the stance on this single issue. It doesn't tell you whether the person stating he/she is an atheist is an neo nazists, or marxists leninist or anything in between. Ergo; no, you will not find a coherence based on the negative stance on the existence of supernatural entities.

naijadeyhia:


correction, its "was that directed at me"? not "to me" The Nigerian tongue is heavy on you bro

JFAH:


I am sorry, was that directed to me? Being Scandinavian english is my *secondary* language. Not primary. And there's a difference.

KingEbukasBlog:


Yet another foolish act from the atheists . Just to appear intelligent one claims he is a European as if his affiliation is tantamount to being intelligent

He could be truthman83

4kings:

*Stance of a question concerning proposed deities*

So what's your stance on the existence of an 'intelligent designer'?

naijadeyhia:


Let me indulge you and ask you just 2 questions first in accordance with your definition of Atheism;

1. Does the universe have a beginning that requires a cause? If so, what was this cause?

2. Is materialistic determinism compatible with the intrinsically probabilistic nature of quantum mechanics?

Lets start from there.

JFAH:

1. Current data sugest a start point for _our_ universe. What started it, and whether the question of a cause is even valid, is currently unknown.
2. Short answer; Yes.

winner01:


I thought the universe didn't give a damn about what accidental bags of cells do or don't do

naijadeyhia:


correction, its "was that directed at me"? not "to me" The Nigerian tongue is heavy on you bro

TrajansKong:


Or he juuuuust might be telling the truth...hmmmmmm

naijadeyhia:


Currently unknown or YOU DO NOT KNOW. (clarification is needed because many atheists here come out straight and say THEY KNOW the cause and point to SCIENCE)

You answered Yes to the other question. I need the long answer and not the short one.

Joshuabase:
Honestly I don't condone lying, I find it a very huge character flaw. I personally can't tolerate liars, don't know why I'm like that but lying to me is irritating.

Why do people lie? I just can't understand, my brain can't compute the reason. I'm not saying I haven't ever in my life told a lie,that would be a lie. It's just these days I don't see a reason to lie anymore seeing as the truth will always come out.

JFAH:


Well if they know they can give the guys at cern a call. We have hypothesis in that regard,and viable pathways forward to investigate. BUt we cant say we know.

But regardless; neither of the questions have anything to do with atheism. Me knowing or not knowing how the universe came to be, or whether or not quantum mechanics is compatible with newtonian mechanics, or whether or not I am proficient in the area of physics (spoiler alert; I am not a physicist, i deal in software) is totally irrelevant to the premise. So sorry, we can have that discussion (within limits), and it would be very interesting, but it has nothing to do with atheism.

naijadeyhia:


This thread stands as another evidence of the desperation of Atheists here on Nairaland. lmao

Atheism is synonymous with lies and deception!

Joshuabase:


And religion isn't?

Please don't quote me if you're gonna type bigoted nonsense

naijadeyhia:


Is Religion the one on trial here? I think you are bigoted since you identified the liar as well

Joshuabase:

I remember saying not to quote me.

JFAH:


Well if they know they can give the guys at cern a call. We have hypothesis in that regard,and viable pathways forward to investigate. BUt we cant say we know.

But regardless; neither of the questions have anything to do with atheism. Me knowing or not knowing how the universe came to be, or whether or not quantum mechanics is compatible with newtonian mechanics, or whether or not I am proficient in the area of physics (spoiler alert; I am not a physicist, i deal in software) is totally irrelevant to the premise. So sorry, we can have that discussion (within limits), and it would be very interesting, but it has nothing to do with atheism.

naijadeyhia:


Oh so this route has nothing to do with Atheism? I see

Care to share this eureka moment with your fellow atheists here?

JFAH:


I can not speak for them. And no this route have nothing to do with atheism per see.

JFAH:


I live in a part of the world where stating 'I am an atheist' is as eventful as proclaiming 'I dont collect stamps!'. I.e. people look at you funnily and wonder why you would indicate such a non issue. However, in my job I deal with various parts of the world where this is not the case so I have taken an interest in how it *really* is in various parts of the world with perhaps not the best of reputations when it comes to religious tolerance. This site poped up every now and then in those searches. After following some of the discussion here I felt that maybe I could contribute something. Lets see how it turns out and if it a learning experience of sorts.

Nairalanders theist and atheist are causing global commotion.

SirWere:
I already know the Answer to this but I just want to put it out for those who claim Atheism equals a hugely negative trend:



Do you HATE religious people??


Do you get ANGRY when they preach to you??