dalaman:


I am not a criminal. I will not come alone. Some atheist have indicated interest so we all will be coming together. It is not something that will be done in the dark. Just one amputee will ne brought. The participant is already in Lagos and has agreed. We all will gather ourselves and come to a neutral place that is secured. A recognized hotel that will be chosen and accepted by all parties. You will then do your wonders. If it works 500k for you and an end to all atheist activities on nairaland religious section because the video and pictures will be posted here. I assure you that all atheist will become christians after watching it and the powerful testimony that will be made by us. All activities of atheist on nairaland will end.

If it fails yu will just give me 500k and I will walk away. I won't even bother to post the video here. I will know that I didn't waste my time and you didn't play with my intelligence for nothing.

naijadeyhia:


Is your problem disproving my claims or me personally? Because you seem conflicted in both areas. With one mouth you say you are 100% sure this cannot happen which points at disproving it and then in another second you say i personally have to stake something. Is this BETNAIJA?

You toss around like a fish out of water with no definite handle on what you seek or aim to achieve.

Till you resolve to do this rightly as originally outlined then consider this conversation closed. Thank you!

naijadeyhia:


Your words are worthless same with your character until you revert to the original agreement. No Atheist here is truthful as like you, lies flow like water because all of you are set on a factory default of self denial.

I do not desire your explanations or stories. Revert to status quo...simple. Dont quote me again until you do. Thank you

dalaman:


[size=20pt]If it fails what will happen?[/size]

dalaman:


We never had any agreement apart from you agreeing that I should bring people and you will heal them. I just told you that I will get back to you when am ready. I didnt agree to any other thing you said. You talk about raising people from the dead yet you accuse others of lying. Na wah oo .

hahn:


naijadeyhia answer ooo

BoboYekini:
Dalaman you've done the hard part by getting a willing 'Guinea pig'- for want of a better word. Leave this 500k thing abeg. There's more to be gained e.g. exposing Christianity for the fraud it is.
Frankly, you seem unserious about this. But if you are, then do this for the community.

naijadeyhia:


Both of you deserve no answer. It may be all fun and games to you but not to me. What is supposed to happen? He cannot eat his cake and have it. What i offered originally which he consented to albeit via silence (legal language) is worth way more than his 500k. His focus is not on disproving anything as nothing will sway his mind...He would just call that a coincidence. Besides he already began with deception here on this thread so what stops him from deactivating his moniker and coming back with another one?

Do i know him personally? How would i monitor his declaration that he would be born again for the rest of His life? Remember he was once also born again and reneged on that too.

dalaman your words are not worth anything to me.. All i want is that you revert to status quo... vows or no vows.

dalaman:


You think this will expose christainity if it fails? Do you know Reverend Peter Popoff that was exposed by James Randi as a fake on television in front of the whole world? He is now pastoring a church after many many years. People still attend his church. Our own Reverend King still has his followers after burning some of his female servants.

No Christain will change his/her mind, instead they will all go after him and accuse him of testing God. Don't think that if it fails it will change any body's mind because already some christians are already tacitly telling him not to do it.

naijadeyhia:




In Law silence is consent by extension! I gave you the condition of getting a notarized letter of consent and awareness from the participants and you read it and said nothing.. In law that translates to consent. Consent you had until 30 days after when you decided to renege.

Here you raised some strange conditions and i IMMEDIATELY refused so clearly i have not consented. Do you get it now?

dalaman:


You are the one that is turning it into a joke. How can I witness the restoration of an amputated limb and still remain an atheist?

What will happen if it fails? Tell me.

hopefulLandlord:
Dalaman, I understand your position, the need to stake something but its obvious Naijadeyhia wouldn't consent to this

you need to realise however that "time" can never be paid for fully, we all lose time one day or the other although time can NEVER be wasted in the strictest sense of the work

I get the feeling (just a feeling and a Personal one at that) Naijadeyhia doesn't want this arrangement to happen, you're giving him an excuse to cancel it

Pls, I enjoin you to do this, make this work, don't let this be an anticlimax

dalaman:


What will you give on your part if it fails? I have told you what I will give. Money and an end to all the activities of atheists on Nairaland. What will you give?

naijadeyhia:


Are the other Christians supposed to be your problem? When was that part of all this? You are a classic deceiver. You say you do not want to expose Christianity but here you are angrily expressing yourself at how christianity still waxes stronger despite everything. You are confused!

dalaman:


Please don't turn this into a game. My response was to him when he said that I should go ahead and do it so that it will expose christainity as a fake religion.

naijadeyhia:


I have already rejected your money so stop repeating yourself. Regarding your other vows...On what grounds are you vowing? People always vow on something greater...You do not believe in God or any powers so your vows are just words. Deception is the route you started with so analytically i can deduce that your vow or vows whatever they may be are also deceptive.

naijadeyhia:



[b]Shocker !!!

I saw this coming lol

Remember i offered to foot the bill for this your quest so no expenses on your part? I also offered to pay for your hotel accomodation and even your flight ticket? Hopefullandlord can even attest to that or should i pull up the thread?

I asked for the details of those coming so i would make the arrangements at no cost from you so why are you trying to dodge this by throwing up a wall of deceptive defense?

You cannot offer me 500k as my offer is free and it still stands with all expenses paid. But if you are asking for payment to prove your doubt then you are a deceptive person and a bonafide liar.

Paying you is not the problem but you are looking for a way out and i will not give it to you. I have given you an all expenses paid offer and to me that is way weightier than your measly 500k. If you need financial boost just come out straight and say so and not use this grand opportunity to deceive.

The only request i made from you was that you get me details of these individuals as well as a notarized letter stating their consent as i do not want to be accused of something i never did e.g kidnapping

Your post today is pitiful[/b]

cc kingebukasbog, wnner01 , felxomor These guys never cease to amaze

dalaman:


Why were you planning to do it? Aren't you doing it because you want me to see tour God in action first hand? Tell me why I will witness the restoration of the limbs of an amputee and not believe.

Ranchhoddas:
Is 500k actually measly to you.? Please I need a good faith loan. Just 100k. No jokes.

Ranchhoddas:
I disagree. Dalaman is the one trying to cop out. You know as a Christian Naijadeyhia is not going engage in any form of betting with him, why then is he introducing the 500k at this point? He was promised that all the expenses will be taken care of; flight (from abroad I presume), accomodation and all other expenses. This is going to cost far more than 500k especially if you factor in the forex conditions in the country now. So what's Dalaman's excuse?

naijadeyhia:


If i now ask that we talk on the phone because of this you gladly would right?

naijadeyhia:


Your foundation and mine vary.... Yours is on deception while mine is on righteousness. If my agenda is to prove the existence of God to you that is genuine and has not changed...not even my words have changed since the very first day but here we have yours dancing with the wind and you do not even know what you aim to prove.

Disprove God

Shame me

Gain 500k

These are your positions and the last 2 have nothing to do with the status quo

dalaman:


Am in Abuja. Am not abroad. My flight to lagos has already been paid for by the institution where I work. You as an atheist know that it will never work. I know that too. He called for the challenge. He will not pay me any dime until it fails. I will not go and waste my time and accept the usual excuse for God not doing it for one reason or the other. He has already slapped me with an insult by telling me that he brought a dead person back to life. He then challenge me to bring an amputee for him to heal. If I go and it fails you think I will be foolish to just accept the usual excuse? He will have to pay for his lies period.

dalaman:


You shamlessly lied that you raised a dead person back to life yet you are still talking of deception. Park well my friend.

I repeat we never had any agreement apart from the one that you will heal the people that I will bring. Nothing you said was agreed to by me. I only kept telling you that I will get back to you when I am ready. You kept talking away and my response to you was that I will get back to you when am ready and we shall see. Now that I am ready I have made.my demands. It's either you accept it or not. I will not do this for nothing. I will not accept failure on your side.

How can you say i lied when you are running away from proving it or disproving it? You are just confused. Were you there when i failed in raising the dead? So why would you say i lied? Here you have a golden opportunity to prove yourself right that i actually lied but you are digging up excuses.

If you are so sure i will fail then please tell everyone why you chose to take up all of this? Is it not originally for the 500k?

So much dishonesty!

dalaman:


Am in Abuja. Am not abroad. My flight to lagos has already been paid for by the institution where I work. You as an atheist know that it will never work. I know that too. He called for the challenge. He will not pay me any dime until it fails. I will not go and waste my time and accept the usual excuse for God not doing it for one reason or the other. He has already slapped me with an insult by telling me that he brought a dead person back to life. He then challenge me to bring an amputee for him to heal. If I go and it fails you think I will be foolish to just accept the usual excuse? He will have to pay for his lies period.

Ranchhoddas:
If you had said this on the first thread, he wouldn't have accepted the challenge. There are rules in Christianity and you are asking him to break one of them. That's just not going to happen. It might even affect the outcome of the experiment. You have to revert to the original agreement or NOTHING is going to take place. The only thing you have to lose if it fails is your time. PS: I am not an atheist oooo. Just a seeker of truth.

naijadeyhia:



[b]Shocker !!!

I saw this coming lol

Remember i offered to foot the bill for this your quest so no expenses on your part? I also offered to pay for your hotel accomodation and even your flight ticket? Hopefullandlord can even attest to that or should i pull up the thread?

I asked for the details of those coming so i would make the arrangements at no cost from you so why are you trying to dodge this by throwing up a wall of deceptive defense?

You cannot offer me 500k as my offer is free and it still stands with all expenses paid. But if you are asking for payment to prove your doubt then you are a deceptive person and a bonafide liar.

Paying you is not the problem but you are looking for a way out and i will not give it to you. I have given you an all expenses paid offer and to me that is way weightier than your measly 500k. If you need financial boost just come out straight and say so and not use this grand opportunity to deceive.

The only request i made from you was that you get me details of these individuals as well as a notarized letter stating their consent as i do not want to be accused of something i never did e.g kidnapping

Your post today is pitiful[/b]

cc kingebukasblog, winner01 , felixomor These guys never cease to amaze

naijadeyhia:


How can you say i lied when you are running away from proving it or disproving it? You are just confused. Were you there when i failed in raising the dead? So why would you say i lied? Here you have a golden opportunity to prove yourself right that i actually lied but you are digging up excuses.

If you are so sure i will fail then please tell everyone why you chose to take up all of this? Is it not originally for the 500k?

So much dishonesty!

I have only 2 words for you

STATUS QUO!

dalaman:


What do you mean that I am running away. I am not. I am so much confident that I am even offering 500k. Money that I can not afford to lose but I will stake it. I just want you to agree to pay me money if it fails that's all.

How can you tell me that you raised a dead person back to life and expect me to take you seriously. I also flew from Abuja to Lagos on a log of wood. Some claims don't even need to be acess before they are dismissed offhand.

I will want to to pay 500k so that if it fails you will learn not to mess with people's intelligence by lying shamlessly that you have raised nameless and obscured people from the dead. I just want it to serves as a penalty on your own side.