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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 7:35am On Aug 24, 2016
Pataki:


Wenger is a very miserable being. Abeg continue una trolling jare. I am getting ready to put myself in hibernation mode over the aged doofus we have as a coach, till he is done away with. I no get energy to be defending the idioot on this forum or elsewhere any further.
Lol.... that man no serious o!!! grin
Take it easy tho.. He fit manage get small sense as time goes on this season!

Really sucks to be a Gayner ryt now tho.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elrony(m): 7:38am On Aug 24, 2016
Wingback:
Chicarito scored 17 goals and 2 assists last season for Bayer Levkursen. Van gaal is a total failure. Can anything positive come out of that buffoon.
grin grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 7:54am On Aug 24, 2016
Wingback:
Chicarito scored 17 goals and 2 assists last season for Bayer Levkursen. Van gaal is a total failure. Can anything positive come out of that buffoon.
cc diademk07
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 11:41am On Aug 24, 2016
Celtic interested in Bastian schweinsteiger.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by MrTA(m): 12:32pm On Aug 24, 2016
parrotibaba:
Celtic interested in Bastian schweinsteiger.

Well Bastian just released a statement saying man utd will be his last club in europe. So that probably means he'll go to the MLS or retire.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 12:48pm On Aug 24, 2016
"MUFC will be my last club in Europe, I respect other clubs, but Manchester United was the only one which could make me leave Bayern Munich.

"I will be ready, if the team needs me. This is all I can say about my current situation.

"I want to thanks the fans for the amazing support over the recent weeks."


- Bastian Schweinsteiger

Arsenal Fans should read the bold part cautiously to clearly get the Message! We ain't Mates..... Spy360 has learned his place, hence Pataki and Co should follow!

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 2:30pm On Aug 24, 2016
MrTA:


Well Bastian just released a statement saying man utd will be his last club in europe. So that probably means he'll go to the MLS or retire.

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Diademk07: 2:36pm On Aug 24, 2016
SailorXY:

cc diademk07

Why you dey mention me?

Chicharito wanted to leave to be a starter, so?

Furthermore, if you watch him play for Neverkusen, you would also notice he misses countless of chances for them.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 3:31pm On Aug 24, 2016
Diademk07:


Why you dey mention me?

Chicharito wanted to leave to be a starter, so?

Furthermore, if you watch him play for Neverkusen, you would also notice he misses countless of chances for them.
Yeah he wanted to leave but was it cuz of not being a starter? Big lie 17 goals lost, what was the highest in our team since LvG?
Angel wanted to leave. de Gea wanted to leave thank God say we block am. Nani wanted to leave. Fletcher wanted to leave. Rafael wanted to leave. Kagawa wanted to leave. RvP wanted to leave.
Calculate the amount of experience lost due to incompetent handling.
YIMU
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Diademk07: 3:44pm On Aug 24, 2016
SailorXY:

Yeah he wanted to leave but was it cuz of not being a starter? Big lie 17 goals lost, what was the highest in our team since LvG?
Angel wanted to leave. de Gea wanted to leave thank God say we block am. Nani wanted to leave. Fletcher wanted to leave. Rafael wanted to leave. Kagawa wanted to leave. RvP wanted to leave.
Calculate the amount of experience lost due to incompetent handling.
YIMU

I won't call it incompetent. Kagawa, Hernandez and Nani all met Van Gaal for assurance as soon as another club came calling however Van Gaal couldn't give them that because he had to tend to Rooney, Rvp and Mata needs.

Rafael on the other hand was an injury prone player and hardly developed after his breakout. He hardly start for Lyon either. You need to see how he was recently wasted by Moura on the flank for Lyon. He looked rubbish in that match.

Rvp had to be forced out eventually while Di Maria never wanted to be here in the first place and the last straw was the burglary theft. As for De Gea, it was Van Gaal that got him to stay, so?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 3:45pm On Aug 24, 2016
Diademk07:


Furthermore, if you watch him play for Neverkusen, you would also notice he misses countless of chances for them.

Sooooooo 17 goals is not enough for a striker in a season?

What kind of clown are you? Anything to justify your clown of a philosopher.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 3:58pm On Aug 24, 2016
Guys, take out time and read this article....

Premier League Clubs have more Money than Sense

The Premier League is flush with cash thanks to TV deals but, as Arsene Wenger and Antonio Conte have pointed out, its teams are paying huge sums of money for average players.....
Note: The TV Deals (this is for those who are blinded by ignorance when one says "The club is wasting our money"... its actually b'cos its through fans that they get all that money.)

In May 2014, Antonio Conte dismissed Juventus' chances of replicating their domestic success in continental competition, claiming that the Italian champions were not on the same financial footing as Europe's elite. "You cannot go to a €100 restaurant with just €10 in your pocket (PunchLine cheesy )," he sniped. Less than two months later, he parted company with the Old Lady by "mutual consent", having been left frustrated by his employers' transfer strategy.
Two years on, Conte is now back in the club game after a successful spell in charge of Italy and is working for a club bankrolled by Russian oligarch Roman Abramovich. However, the former Bianconeri boss has quickly discovered that more money sometimes means more problems.
Conte has been backed in the transfer market, with Michy Bashuayi and N'Golo Kante having arrived from Marseille and Leicester City, respectively, at a combined cost of €74.8 million (£64.5m). However, the ex-Italy international had intended to sign more than two players capable of going straight into his starting line-up. The problem is the market and its incredibly inflated transfer fees.
"It’s possible to be asked for £55m (€63.9m) for a player of medium quality," the Chelsea manager, who has been chasing Romelu Lukaku, Kalidou Koulibaly and Alessandro Romagnoli, lamented last week. "It’s incredible!
"For this reason, I said it’s a crazy, crazy market. It’s very difficult to do anything in the market with these prices and these conditions."

Few will have much sympathy for the plight of the man at the helm of the ninth-placed club in Deloitte's 2014-15 'Money League'. After all, English clubs are benefiting enormously from the sale of overseas TV rights but there is a downside; everyone knows this. Their European rivals are well aware of just how much money the Premier League teams have to spend (BurnThisLeagueDown especially angry A40 angry ). As a result, they are demanding more money for what Conte called "medium-quality" players.
As Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger pointed out: "Today, in Europe, you have two markets. One for the English clubs and one for the rest of Europe.
"When the buyer is English, it is true that it multiplies the transfer by two or three - or sometimes by 10.
"If an English club does not come in, he is worth £5m (€5.8m) but, if an English club comes for the same player, he is worth £35m (€40.6m) or £40m (€46.4m) or £50m (€58m). (Example: Kevin De Bruyne angry )"
Wenger is speaking from very recent experience, with the Frenchman having initially been hopeful of signing Shkodran Mustafi from Valencia for £20m (€23.2m) only for the sellers to more than double the asking price to a reported £50m (€58m) (Thunder fire them, nonsense. angry ).
Agreeing to pay such extortionate fees would be reckless but, as Wenger knows only too well, the fans (Pataki, Spy360, kokaneprodigy, IpopAlomo grin ) want new players - not excuses. "Buying calms the fans down," he mused.

However, while Wenger has undeniably been guilty of damaging parsimony, no manager wants to splash the cash just for the sake of it. For example, it's clear that Liverpool have defensive deficiencies but manager Jurgen Klopp is steadfastly hesitant to push the panic button in spite of widespread unrest among the Anfield faithful and heavy criticism from the media after Saturday's dismal defeat at Burnley. The German is taking a rather novel stand of championing coaching over the chequebook.
"I really wait for the day when finally the transfer window closes because I can't believe how obsessed you all are with it," the former Borussia Dortmund coach told the media on Monday. "You don’t believe for a second in things like improvement on the training pitch."
Unfortunately, a lot of Premier League clubs presently have more money than sense. John Stones had a dreadful season at Everton last season. He was such a liability that, at Euro 2016, he couldn't even get into one of the weakest England defences ever seen at international level. However, this summer, Manchester City paid £47.5m (€55.1m) for his services.
Of course, if as shrewd a judge of potential as Pep Guardiola requests a player, a club with the means is going to get him - whatever the cost. This is nothing new for City. This, after all, is the same club that paid £42m (€48.8m) for Eliaquim Mangala (award for stupidity grin ). They are in a rather rare and enviable position of being able to afford to make mistakes, however expensive.
Money is no object for the likes of Man City and Chelsea (at least until their billionaire benefactors bail on them). Other Premier League clubs are not yet so immune to such costly errors of judgment - and yet Crystal Palace have just paid £27m (€31.3m) for Liverpool flop Christian Benteke (Can you imagine shocked ) after receiving £25m (€29.2m) from Everton for the distinctly average Yannick Bolasie. It seems as if nobody has learned anything from Leeds United's shocking fall from Champions League contenders to Championship also-rans in just one decade of gross financial mismanagement.

The belief is that the Premier League bubble will never burst. The high-paced English game is both exciting and exhilarating; as a result, it has never been more popular overseas. However, it is naive to think that the current business model is sustainable, at least for the smaller sides without sugar daddies behind them.
"The danger of the English situation is that the English clubs can suffocate themselves in the long term," Wenger warns. "Why? Because they buy players at a very high price. That means there are very high wages linked with it and, if they are wrong, they will have these players with high wages who cannot move anywhere else."
Mario Balotelli is a perfect case in point. Liverpool desperately want rid of the Italian striker, who is earning £110,000 (€128,000) per week while training with the club's reserves, yet can find neither a buyer nor a club willing to take him on loan. But then, the Reds only have themselves to blame. Balotelli is merely the most damning indictment of Liverpool's feckless and muddled recruitment strategy since the turn of the decade; a panic buy that former manager Brendan Rodgers had serious doubts about.
Only the Manchester clubs have a greater net spend than the Merseysiders over the past five years, yet they won't even be competing in the Europa League this season after finishing eighth in last season's Premier League.
The Reds' underwhelming results (2013-14 aside) prove that England's biggest clubs are not turning their obvious off-field advantages into on-field success. This has been borne out in European competition. Between 2005 and 2012, England produced three Champions League winners and five other finalists. Not one Premier League side has made the tournament decider since.
In England, the rich are getting richer but the results are getting poorer. The most expensive restaurants, it seems, don't always serve the best food.

Its worth noting that Dortmund bought Gotze for 18m!!! shocked, while Liverpool wanted him all along but had to settle for 25m Wiljnadum angry , Benteke for 37m (flop of life) .. SMH! angry

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 4:12pm On Aug 24, 2016
Diademk07:


I won't call it incompetent. Kagawa, Hernandez and Nani all met Van Gaal for assurance as soon as another club came calling however Van Gaal couldn't give them that because he had to tend to Rooney, Rvp and Mata needs.

Rafael on the other hand was an injury prone player and hardly developed after his breakout. He hardly start for Lyon either. You need to see how he was recently wasted by Moura on the flank for Lyon. He looked rubbish in that match.

Rvp had to be forced out eventually while Di Maria never wanted to be here in the first place and the last straw was the burglary theft. As for De Gea, it was Van Gaal that got him to stay, so?
All these na stories. The Koko be say we lose gazillions in experience within a very short time, not to forget that some of these guys were seasoned campaigners under SAF.
Who replaced these? Only Bastian stood out & he too was not so available. teens Martial Rashford Lingard Varela Jackson Mensah & you think he'd succeed?
this is in addition to losing Rio Vidic Evra from earlier, three leaders irrespective of age are invaluable. They must not play but their presence in the dressing room counts.

Jose has moved to address the leadership aspect by bringing Zlatan upfront & extended Carrick's contract. Managers who go after experience are not foōls.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by AikayDaWrapper(m): 4:51pm On Aug 24, 2016
SailorXY:

Yeah he wanted to leave but was it cuz of not being a starter? Big lie 17 goals lost, what was the highest in our team since LvG?
Angel wanted to leave. de Gea wanted to leave thank God say we block am. Nani wanted to leave. Fletcher wanted to leave. Rafael wanted to leave. Kagawa wanted to leave. RvP wanted to leave.
Calculate the amount of experience lost due to incompetent handling.
YIMU
This thread has been peaceful since, you just carry your hand start another war.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Diademk07: 5:35pm On Aug 24, 2016
SailorXY:

All these na stories. The Koko be say we lose gazillions in experience within a very short time, not to forget that some of these guys were seasoned campaigners under SAF.
Who replaced these? Only Bastian stood out & he too was not so available. teens Martial Rashford Lingard Varela Jackson Mensah & you think he'd succeed?
this is in addition to losing Rio Vidic Evra from earlier, three leaders irrespective of age are invaluable. They must not play but their presence in the dressing room counts.

Jose has moved to address the leadership aspect by bringing Zlatan upfront & extended Carrick's contract. Managers who go after experience are not foōls.

Carrick, Rooney, Rvp, Mata are all experienced players and it was due to them the likes of Hernandez, Kagawa et al left.

Rio and Vidic already left under Moyes and you don't expect Evra to be on the bench with Shaw as the main starter.

I don't even have problem with all the players that left even though I wasn't happy that Kagawa left for that toad, Mata but I know Van gaal can't keep everyone happy. The only problem is he failed to bring in quality players into the squad.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 5:46pm On Aug 24, 2016
Lmao...Was Djemba Djemba that bad? grin grin

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by PietroRico(m): 5:50pm On Aug 24, 2016
The overspending thing will soon blow over... The noise about it has become too much.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 6:41pm On Aug 24, 2016
embarassed

Seriously I commend the manner Schweinsteiger is handing his Demotion from the first Team!

I hope Jose Mourinho will change his mind and gives him a second chance!

Emotionally attached to his situation and the manner he's handing it

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 7:51pm On Aug 24, 2016
Oasis007:
embarassed

Seriously I commend the manner Schweinsteiger is handing his Demotion from the first Team!

I hope Jose Mourinho will change his mind and gives him a second chance!

Emotionally attached to his situation and the manner he's handing it
I think he's drawing the complaints of the fans to the club's hierarchy. He wants the likes of Ed and maybe Sir Bobby Charlton to notice his situation and take action as he's quite ready to stay in Manchester throughout the duration of his contract unless someone else comes with a tempting offer. The problem is that the men in power do not want to upset the current mood within the club as the main aim is to return United back to the elites zone, wining trophies and attracting more investments to the club.


If I'm Bastian, instead of twitting upandan, I will go and meet with the gaffer (preferably at his place) with one respected senior member of the club and plead his case to the man, even if na backup player e go be, also he should promise to work on his fitness instead of chasing his wife to tennis competitions all over the globe while being injured. If you look at it, Mou probably doesn't fancy him because of his fitness problems, same as Jones.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by PietroRico(m): 10:16pm On Aug 24, 2016
Januzaj scores a nice goal to grant moyes his first win
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by PietroRico(m): 10:34pm On Aug 24, 2016
We play Northampton away in the next round of fixtures

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 10:57pm On Aug 24, 2016
Why is everyone looking down on Wenger. He's making a brave stand against the rest of European leagues.

How can you demand 30+ for average players. It's madness, Inflation taken into account, it's still madness.


English clubs should boycott something and stop this exorbitant prices.




But Wenger stingy sha cheesy

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 12:38am On Aug 25, 2016
Wingback:
Why is everyone looking down on Wenger. He's making a brave stand against the rest of European leagues.

How can you demand 30+ for average players. It's madness, Inflation taken into account, it's still madness.


English clubs should boycott something and stop this exorbitant prices.




But Wenger stingy sha cheesy
watabout the inflation between the English teams,who go stand against that?
the market will correct itself. wenger just dey mumu himself.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 12:40am On Aug 25, 2016
SIRcumalot:

watabout the inflation between the English teams,who go stand against that?
the market will correct itself. wenger just dey mumu himself.



The English market is withing shores in 2-3 seasons it will buckle up after everyone sorts out the TV deals and stuff.

But at this rate, it will be a precedent for foreign leagues to slap an additional 35% when English teams come Knocking.


It's outrageous and needs to be stopped.


I blame Man city, they started ruining the market.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 1:16am On Aug 25, 2016
Wingback:




The English market is withing shores in 2-3 seasons it will buckle up after everyone sorts out the TV deals and stuff.

But at this rate, it will be a precedent for foreign leagues to slap an additional 35% when English teams come Knocking.


It's outrageous and needs to be stopped.


I blame Man city, they started ruining the market.
what Is there to sort out?

a precedent is already in place for the rich clubs to pay more and this isn't pertaining only to the English teams. it happens in Germany,spain and Italy
Arsenal belongs to this rich group but he(wenger) likes to act like they don't,

of course nobody is forcing anybody westham made a sizeable offer for Lacazette nobody agreed and they moved on.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Spy360(m): 2:19am On Aug 25, 2016
Wingback:
Why is everyone looking down on Wenger. He's making a brave stand against the rest of European leagues.

How can you demand 30+ for average players. It's madness, Inflation taken into account, it's still madness.


English clubs should boycott something and stop this exorbitant prices.




But Wenger stingy sha cheesy
For posting this, you should apologise to me for negative reactions to my comment about AW.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Spy360(m): 2:29am On Aug 25, 2016
UEFA Champions League Draw pots
Arsenal in pot 2.
Searching for United
http://m.espn.com/soccer/story?storyId=2936506&top&wjb=

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 3:53am On Aug 25, 2016
Spy360:

For posting this, you should apologise to me for negative reactions to my comment about AW.


*Yawns* If you die today, I am will shag my Girl in Joy.



That's how insignificant you are grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 7:00am On Aug 25, 2016
Why is our academy so shit_. It seems every Club in Europe now has Top class Scouts. Imagine 6 legendary players in the class of 1992(Neville brothers, Giggs, Scholes, Butt, Beckham)

And now it's 2016 and we can't even boast of a superb player since the 2010s. Jesse Lingard is looking more like a squad player and we haven't produced and sensational players...SMH.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Oasis007(m): 7:24am On Aug 25, 2016
Spy360:
UEFA Champions League Draw pots

Arsenal in pot 2.

Searching for United

http://m.espn.com/soccer/story?storyId=2936506&top&wjb=

grin

Lame!

Making a number as usual is not an achievement to celebrate and be proud of!

Arsenal is simply as an Attendant, a Participant, not a potential Champion!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by bigkesh(m): 8:04am On Aug 25, 2016
Spy360:
UEFA Champions League Draw pots

Arsenal in pot 2.

Searching for United

http://m.espn.com/soccer/story?storyId=2936506&top&wjb=
You are not intellectually sound,stop thinking with your spinal cord
Even before the league started you should know you were gonna end in the second pot

Ending in the 2nd pot means you are gonna be paired against one of the big boys from pot 1 hopefully Bayern,Barca or Juventus......That's an automatic 2nd

As the 2nd you are gonna play a group winner which is most likely another bad boy,let's say real Madrid in February, Boom you are out as usual

Considering that you are already 11 points behind United and Chelsea ( we all know you can't Jose and your sorry ass can't handle chelsea) by February u re chasing top 4 ,even if you win the race for Ucl you are not gonna be seeded among the big boys and you start the cycle all over again

Even mosquitoes have a more dynamic life cycle than Arsenal as a club



Shut up when the big boys are talking

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by codedguy1(m): 8:22am On Aug 25, 2016
bigkesh:

You are not intellectually sound,stop thinking with your spinal cord
Even before the league started you should know you were gonna end in the second pot
Ending in the 2nd pot means you are gonna be paired against one of the big boys from pot 1 hopefully Bayern,Barca or Juventus......That's an automatic 2nd
As the 2nd you are gonna play a group winner which is most likely another bad boy,let's say real Madrid in February, Boom you are out as usual
Considering that you are already 11 points behind United and Chelsea ( we all know you can't Jose and your sorry ass can't handle chelsea) by February u re chasing top 4 ,even if you win the race for Ucl you are not gonna be seeded among the big boys and you start the cycle all over again
Even mosquitoes have a more dynamic life cycle than Arsenal as a club
Shut up when the big boys are talking


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