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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 10:26pm On Aug 25, 2016 |
Diademk07:Guy leave me abeg 6 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Diademk07: 11:07pm On Aug 25, 2016 |
AdisaOwala: How do you expect me to know? He was probably good at it in training. BTW, I haven't defended everything Van gaal ever did. In fact, I did blame him for his failure to bring in enough quality into the team but one thing I'll keep harping on is the fact that a lot of the players were shite and the tactics Van gaal deployed got the best out of them which could have been worse under another manager. We all saw how the same set of players were well spanked by Dortmund for example. Hence, I often find it unreasonable when some people says certain players were "van gaaled" when the truth is they were simply not good enough. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 1:28am On Aug 26, 2016 |
AdisaOwala:or playing Young as CF, Martial as LWF, Mata as RW, Rooney as CMF & Lingard as AMF all same time same game. The only thing he didn't do was playing de Gea as an outfielder. hehehe I'm sure no Man United fan ever thought they'd witness such insanity in their lifetime. 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Diademk07: 2:35am On Aug 26, 2016 |
SailorXY: The only insanity I can see right here is you for that bullshite you put up there. Care to tell me where Mata has played in all his career at Chelsea and Valencia? Or Martial who was mostly deployed as a SS or LWF for Monaco? Or Lingard who was either deployed as an AM or LW in the academy? For the records, Young was only tried twice as a striker hence, I don't understand all the hullabaloo from your end, it wasn't as if he was our primary striker throughout the season. On the other hand, Rooney had to play in the team and since we had a better player in Rashford in the striker role, there's no way he could have played there. Hence, the midfield role.. I'm not seeing your saviour, Mourinho doing anything contrary to all these though. Even Rooney as a SS often drop deep into the midfield despite that hypocritic clown saying that Rooney won't play in the midfield. 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Spy360(m): 2:39am On Aug 26, 2016 |
SailorXY:Save your pity. We don wan Jonsing we already got Per to pere about. Now we are upgrading. Check our transfer news. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Lana1(m): 2:39am On Aug 26, 2016 |
Mata, Di Maria, Rooney all on the Pitch but na Jones baba see to dey take corner. He even dey raise hand like he sabi wetin he wan do Walahi at some point, i thought De Gea would start taking freekicks. Chai. LVG! U would not be missed. Rubbish!! 3 Likes
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by DrinkWater10: 2:41am On Aug 26, 2016 |
Diademk07:bullocks so your cbj would have benched luke shaw, Regan Poole would have benched smalling and bally, timothy fosu Mensah would have benched fellaini or Valencia in the dmf and Right back positions respectively same for 23 year old guliermo varela? the class of 92 will never repeat itself youth players don't win you titles even benfica and Porto understands this. How many la masia graduates after busquetts have walked straight into the barca first eleven? man United academy is second to only la masia in terms of turn over in Europe forget the arsenal hype. Pogba pique shawcross Tom heaton, will keane (burnley ) Evans( DrinkWater ,Danny Simpson, richy delaet ,nugent~all in liechester), ravel Morrison ,ashley fletcher and the list goes on are just some of our youth grads doing it in europe”s top flight leagues. All of them cannot play in our first team at the same time.We should instead sell them off and insert buy back clause in their contracts. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Spy360(m): 2:49am On Aug 26, 2016 |
I would be depressed if I don't get a CL grouping. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by DrinkWater10: 3:01am On Aug 26, 2016 |
Spy360:Come and buy Phil Jones for £40million and 1 pound only! |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Diademk07: 3:04am On Aug 26, 2016 |
DrinkWater10: Poole could have benched Carrick. He was already part of the first team squad at just 17yrs old and already made a cameo. And when I said fully involved, I mean being given plenty of game time. There's no way the likes of Shaw et al could have played all the games available. I'm quite sure Varela would have given Valencia a good competition because he's more technically sound as opposed to the kick and run version of Valencia. Also, he's got the ability to not only make fantastic crossing but also, superb throughballs. He's defensively solid as well except for the few positioning lapse he had vs Liverpool in the Europa and that was due to his inexperience. For crying out loud, Varela and Rashford were our best players in the few games he played last season. How can people forget these thing easily? And don't make laugh at your Benfica and Porto jokes. You mean clubs who has had the likes of renato, Oliver Torres, inexperienced Casiemiro, James Rodriguez et al playing for them? You asked how many La Masia graduated after Busquets? Munir is one. Barca also gave chances to the likes of Pedro, Tello, Bojan Krikc to claim their spot till they all showed they aint good enough for them. I'm quite sure if Pep/Van Gaal/Rij kaard who promoted the likes of Iniesta, Xavi, Messi, Busquets were still there, more would have been promoted BTW. Without these aforementioned people, the dominant Barca era wouldn't have existed just the same way the dominant Bayern who made 3 CL finals in 4yrs wouldn't have existed either. 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by DrinkWater10: 3:16am On Aug 26, 2016 |
Diademk07:Varela cannot bench darmian talkless of valencia. Regan Poole is not a DM so he cannot play in Carrick's position. when last did munir start five competitive games on the trout for FCB. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Diademk07: 3:43am On Aug 26, 2016 |
DrinkWater10: Regan Poole started out primarily as a midfielder and has played either as a CDM or in the defence at the academy, Van gaal view him as a midfielder than TFM for example, as shown by the cameo he gave Poole in the midfield. Varela actually displaced Darmain from the starting line-up at one point until Valencia returned apart from the inexperience that showed in his game vs Pool in the Europa.. As for Munir, who did you expect him to displace? Suarez, Neymar or Messi? What you're glossing over is the fact that a dominant Barca wouldn't have existed without the coach giving his hand to lift up the little Iniesta, Xavi, Messi, Busquets et al. They could have tow the same glory hunting path like others did, so? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 4:13am On Aug 26, 2016 |
eph12: I am not like Diadem and Co that argue all day, once I see the argument is heading to a stale mate I move. But if you decide to drag me back feeling some kind of superiority think again . They don't necessarily have to be starters, just Quality players that ply trade in topflight but you can take a good look at Messi xavi and Iniesta . Or Lahm Muller and ex Swinesteger. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 4:30am On Aug 26, 2016 |
eph12: Barcelona - Pique Alba Iniesta Busquets Messi Bayern - Hummels, Lahm, Alaba, Muller |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by bigkesh(m): 5:09am On Aug 26, 2016 |
raumdeuter:Remove Pique,Alba and Hummels..... 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Danhumprey: 5:56am On Aug 26, 2016 |
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Funlordjnr: 6:18am On Aug 26, 2016 |
Diademk07: So true! No wonder we collected 3-0 at the emirates and escaped with a 3-2 scorline in old trafford in which they created more chances than us! Conceding 5 goals against an average title rival is down to superb coaching tactics plus solid youth involvement I guess! |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by joeace2020(m): 6:43am On Aug 26, 2016 |
Diademk07: slowpoke |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 6:53am On Aug 26, 2016 |
raumdeuter:We were talking about recent graduates of the youth team not 26 years and above. Players like Pique Alba Hummels were sold off or loaned out before they were bought back by the club after they had improved elsewhere. That is what happened in Pogba's case but some don't want to see Pogba as a product of United youth team. And Pogba is just 23 sef. What I expect those players to do is to be loaned out to some EPL teams so they get match fitness and improve on their selves. Even those that will be sold should have a buy back clause not insisting that they make first team when United can't afford to experiment for now. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 6:59am On Aug 26, 2016 |
Wingback:Barcelona were lucky with the messi xavi Iniesta break just as we were lucky with Scholes Giggs Neville. Barca would struggle to replace any of those 3 especially Iniesta and messi. Same thing with bayern. They had their break and they enjoyed it. To replace those guys they will most likely spend millions and try a few reserve before they finally get it right and it won't even come close to. 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 7:03am On Aug 26, 2016 |
DrinkWater10:They had academy graduate and they are spending millions on players now he is asking us how we expect munir to displace suarez and neymar. Like he wasn't existing or the academy was shut down when barca were bidding for those players. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 7:06am On Aug 26, 2016 |
Funlordjnr:Imagine that guy is happy with the way Arsenal tormented us calling it quality and tactics. Smh |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 7:15am On Aug 26, 2016 |
Leicester and spurs suppose fit top their respective UCL groups |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 8:17am On Aug 26, 2016 |
eph12: This is why I was trying to avoid the argument. Weren't you the one that asked for examples, I didn't even get it right but the winger raundeter guy came in. Abeg go sleep. Do you know anyone in their academy, his stats? Look at Ajax they rely mainly on youth system and they flourished in it. Athletic Bilbao or something like that uses Spanish players mostly and they have been holding their own in top flight. 2 types of club...Money or Youth City or United. And so far United will need the money route if it hopes for anything this decade. |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by weedtaker: 8:21am On Aug 26, 2016 |
```e be lyk say you de take drugs |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 8:23am On Aug 26, 2016 |
This spy guy sounds like a frustrated troll..Wenger has dealt with him seriously |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Lana1(m): 8:43am On Aug 26, 2016 |
WestHam getting knocked out in the qialifiers for the 2nd time in 2 years. Why do dey even bother?? |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 8:52am On Aug 26, 2016 |
Wingback:I was just pointing to the fact that big club must spend to remain big. I used other top European clubs as examples. Bayern Barca RM are perfect examples after all they have good academy but still spend millions to buy players. Barca hit jackpot with Iniesta and Messi and will definitely struggle to replace those guys. There is nothing like two types of clubs. I say apart from the 92 class which other class did Sir really bring up the answer is simple none but he was buying young players fact. If Pogba and Bailly that still have at least 10 years are not considered as young then what are they? If you are comparing a team like United with bilbao ajax et al I have nothing to say to you. Mourinho priority now is getting back United on track before we can have the luxury of doing trial and error. Good day |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Spy360(m): 9:07am On Aug 26, 2016 |
DrinkWater10:£40,000,001 for some kinda [size=16] K-Legged Weido? [/size] Nahhhh! I wonder the kind own goal wey him go dey score with K-leg. 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Spy360(m): 9:15am On Aug 26, 2016 |
SIRcumalot:Arsenal nko, why you hate me like this 2 Likes |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 9:18am On Aug 26, 2016 |
SIRcumalot:Oga na so we talk last season and LVG disgraced us with old school military tactics in the group stages. I still remember the PSV match at old Trafford like yesterday. Leicester are tasting champions League footie for the first time in their history while Spurs last tasted UCL football 6 years ago, both of them are inexperienced in this competition so don't expect too much from them. 1 Like |
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by AikayDaWrapper(m): 9:24am On Aug 26, 2016 |
Wingback:Guy are you comparing Ajax and Bilbao to man utd. Ajax just got trashed by FC Rostov with their youth and couldn't make it into the champions league. Bilbao are just an average club in Spain. Once in a while they'll challenge for European slots other times they're just midtable. Is that what you want for man utd? Midtable obscurity? I'm not against promoting youth, but the youth players need to be brought in at a time when the club is stable and less pressure is on them. Pogba developed at juve because he had winners and a stable team around him. We are in a critical position now because if we don't get it right we could end up like arsenal or Liverpool going 10, 20 years without a title thinking every year is our year. |
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