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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 1:45pm On Aug 26, 2016 |
africaken254: It is complete madness. How can anyone ask for that much money to only look at a problem. Hypothetically speaking, if the NAF had gone ahead with those contractors, they would have even billed us much more to have eastern bloc equipment on our western bloc aircraft. That's if they would agree to use eastern block equipment. As a continent, we have no choice but to actively pursue indigenisation. Especially in the areas of land systems, Air defences and Air-to-Ground weapons. If we do not make these efforts now, we would continue to lose. Also in Ocean going/sea keeping platforms. The vessels bought by senegal, OPV45 & OPV190 are too small to be awarding to foreign vendors. Basic configurations of 45 meters and 58 meters vessels, Only armed with 20 mm cannons. These are the sort of projects that should be awarded to local companies, or you have those foreign companies come build them here. 3 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 1:46pm On Aug 26, 2016 |
Nigerian navy NNS Karaduwa (P102) Another photo of the Nigeria navy's second domestically built vessel. 40 meters Seaward Defence Boat NNS Karaduwa, this time showing her call-sign (P102) and her main gun. The main gun looks to me like a 30mm RWS.
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 3:02pm On Aug 26, 2016 |
Henry240: you are now begining to agree with me when i mentioned it here several years ago that we need to begin to do research on making military hardwares based on our own specifications and environment. I suggested we can put about 20bn dollar into a 20 years research to make all these things possible. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 3:29pm On Aug 26, 2016 |
Senegalese navy OPV45 1 Like
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by andrewza: 3:30pm On Aug 26, 2016 |
Henry240: The next big one should be a joint African Project of some kind. Maybe could invest in developing communication sytem since it all ways the thing that makes joint ops harder. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 4:54pm On Aug 26, 2016 |
craziebone:we are now buying hardware from eastern bloc countries who just recently were facing economic collapse after the fall of USSR, civil wars and border wars e.g Yugoslavia ,Croatia,ukraine,russia bulgaria e.t.c we need to end this culture of just buy,buy,buy .just someone to get kickbacks.the problem is this old generation,african youths are more progressive,innovative and creative off topic :this kenya electronic engineer student made a quad copter drone,which was used in a research to identify variety of potatoes in tanzania but is not legally allowed to fly his quad copter drone in kenya. this is what frustrate some of our best mind,who opt to head to the west.do you know an israel engineer frustrate with the slow drone development and bureaucracy in israel,immigrated to america where with funding from DARPA built a UAV which resemble the predator UAV. general atomic bought his company after it went bankrupt but employed him.he is actually the one who designed the predator UAV
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by MikeCZA: 5:17pm On Aug 26, 2016 |
africaken254:Quick reaction. A capability we Africans need to develop too. I wonder why they didn't fight back when bullet started flying instead of speeding. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by MikeCZA: 5:19pm On Aug 26, 2016 |
Henry240:Nice! |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 5:39pm On Aug 26, 2016 |
africaken254: nice my suggestion to the inventor , look for its civilian commercial applications in many more diverse fields , once its becomes commercially successful in civilian sector , he will be able to utilize/maneuver the success on to its military application. many people don't realize that majority of successful low tier defense startups and inventors launch their civilian versions as whole or some parts of it at least to get their finances going , later they ride on their success in the civilian sector to jump into the respective military applications. advantage 1.lower cost 2.better PR 3.maturity of product 4.better chances to draw state/private sponsored funding 5.better chance to get more people on board etc i noticed this in my country , so i mentioned it here. anyways best of luck to the above Kenyan inventor . 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 5:47pm On Aug 26, 2016 |
Henry240: And yet perfidious politicians with an eye on kick-backs kibosh all those initiatives. The number of times Denel has been rebuffed by African countries, offering exactly what you suggest, is no longer a laughing matter. For example, Nigeria's DICON was offered 51% co-production rights on the Casspir NG2000. DICON and your military were keen, the then in-coming Jonathan administration killed the idea. Denel went on to produce it themselves and DICON lost out on all those export orders. And then you went on to buy the inferior SA designed Bigfoot! 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 6:53pm On Aug 26, 2016 |
andrewza: If military leaders can cooperate more, political leaders would naturally fall in line. How many times do African countries train together? I have never seen a Nigerian soldier train with a South-African, infact it had to take the intervention of the US to have a Nigerian train with a Camerounian,yeah....... We have our historical differences but, it shouldn't deter our collective national security. Joint projects can work, if the so called big nations want to see it work. 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 6:58pm On Aug 26, 2016 |
MikeCZA:They are ocean going after all. Despite your earlier disagreement. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Odunayaw(m): 7:07pm On Aug 26, 2016 |
Henry240:I think the Obuma was a frigate..twaz in service b4 Aradu |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 7:23pm On Aug 26, 2016 |
frumentius: You know, i'm starting to think it's not even the politicians, for some reason, the military themselves are the problem. Some guys across our various militaries are so keen on kickbacks that they all loose all sense of reasoning. It's unfortunate for DICON, if what you're saying is actually true. I haven't seen any sources that point towards that. If it were true, it's most unfortunate. Even DICON as an agency, truth be told has performed woefully. There has to be an awakening, in Nigeria, we are starting to see that awakening. The government has come to the realization that buying from abroad is hopeless. The Air Force is doing commendable things, the Navy, DICON, even our small local companies are beginning to take advantage. The 80 riverine boats the Nigerian navy recently got from local suppliers, might seem small now, but when you realize that in 2006 - 2009, the Nigerian navy and Army amphibious units bout over 500 boats combined, and all of them from abroad and mostly from SK in Singapore, it shows the level of progress we have so far made. 1 Like |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by andrewza: 8:25pm On Aug 26, 2016 |
Henry240: Your airforce is here and i have seen nigerians do our courses and i think we send officers to each other. All ways seemed strage we did not do a exersize with your OPV when it was enroute to Nigeria or train with you when you when going to Aussie fleet review. Waisted optunties. But in general we should look at getting a good coms sytem for the African stand By force. South Africa and Namibia both make great radio's and i am sure we could modfie Link ZA to make a Link AU with a ops center in each regional block. In one of the reports i read from the US and SA war games the Op For guys where able to exploit the poor coms between the US and SA forces. In the end a US captain joined the SA side so that the two groups could work together. The coms was a biger issue than the diffrince in training, doctrine and gear. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by andrewza: 8:26pm On Aug 26, 2016 |
MikeCZA: Because they Arab solders. Sa responed prety fast to the CAR mess. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:33pm On Aug 26, 2016 |
andrewza: There was an AU seminar of African Defence Chiefs recently in Addis Ababa where the idea of a "Link Africa" was an agenda item. JOps guys working on CNIS, CSIR, Armscor etc were invited to give input on how Link-ZA could be expanded into a continent-wide standard. Considering it took the EU 2 decades for Link 16 (Never mind how we got hold of Link 11 ), I'm not overly optimistic. Besides, what's the point when of the 5 regional brigades, only the southern and east African are fully operational. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 8:44pm On Aug 26, 2016 |
Henry240: Nice to see you guys continue with Denel guns on your patrol boats. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by andrewza: 8:46pm On Aug 26, 2016 |
frumentius: Then we only do the south and east. All so wont need the entire Africa linked. Focuse on the brigades. The west brigade is not active but i am sure the task force fighting BH would love a full Data link system. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:03pm On Aug 26, 2016 |
frumentius: Quite naturally. We got 25mm for Andoni, i can't quite qualify the millimeter of this particular vessel. Can identify it? |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by MikeCZA: 9:03pm On Aug 26, 2016 |
andrewza:It isn't about being Arab. But poor training, doctrine, SOPs etc. In CAR we were lucky that we had our well trained units on the ground. When deploying heavier forces or regular units I believe we will need a fire force kind of rapid response unit attached to them along side our version of the USAF para rescue chaps(7 med group). It is not something new here in Africa to have rebel forces supported by certain countries. Ambushes will be manned by determined forces under supervision and support of foreign officers. 2 Likes |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:19pm On Aug 26, 2016 |
This flashed across my screen today. Last time Denel did any work in Nigeria was Obasanjo's presidency. Not causality, but the correlation of ex-military presidents and revived prospects for Denel in Nigeria is interesting.
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by MikeCZA: 9:19pm On Aug 26, 2016 |
The Rooikat armoured fighting vehicle. Kind of replaced the Eland vehicle. Hopefully our defence industry will position themselves for the replacement of the Rooikat and providing a light armour capability which was lost when the Eland was retired. Mounting of the 90mm gun on the Ratel still has people saying the the newer ICV(Badger) is lightly armed. Mechanized Infantry and armour requirements mixed up.
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:46pm On Aug 26, 2016 |
MikeCZA: Don't go there Mike. Did you see the latest over at DefenceWeb? Asked my one boss (who's fought in the Ratel-90 in Angola, involved in the "bush break" etc trials of the Badger, and now a very senior Reserve officer concerned with Planning and Doctrine), and he was very dismissive. In fact, he would take the 30mm cam over the 90 any day. To the more important subject: Rooikat never replaced the Eland, except on paper. The proper replacement for the Noddy would've been the MC-90. Lots more to say but alas, not the discussion thread.
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:49pm On Aug 26, 2016 |
Namibian Armed Forces 1 Like
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 9:54pm On Aug 26, 2016 |
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 10:04pm On Aug 26, 2016 |
MikeCZA:not sure if they've been posted here before 1 Like
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 11:17pm On Aug 26, 2016 |
MikeCZA: Let's lay out the facts first of all: you talking about this? 1 Like
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by andrewza: 12:21am On Aug 27, 2016 |
MikeCZA: I am refering to the speciol forces team that flew in from SA. Tgey got there rather fast. |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Nobody: 2:42am On Aug 27, 2016 |
alpha jets ..trainers ....
who remembers d last pic from last year #never_again
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by pacretus(m): 5:20am On Aug 27, 2016 |
me....me uncle me.i remember the super man dude.lol was one of the best pics then until the arrival of the AFSF.@rawswag |
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by thedarksider: 7:18am On Aug 27, 2016 |
andrewza: we were never capable to communicate with each other....their is no way,europe could have colonized the entire africa if we realy communicate with each other...ghadaffi was the latest example...... and i dont believe it will get any better with electronics....we could solve this mental problem,by creating a central-bureau-for-black-affairs,,,, like kgb of russia,fbi of america,party of china................ |
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