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Re: 11111 by Nobody: 10:38pm On Aug 26, 2016 |
What I see here is someone, muslim1, who is much more knowledgeable about the religion you so desperately try to defend. He mentioned quite a number of disturbing things and all you see fit to rebut is 'Abd' meaning black or slave. You cannot even make informed arguments so you resort to hurling invectives. I doubt you even read the original post. Demmzy15: 3 Likes |
Re: 11111 by exmuslim1: 10:41pm On Aug 26, 2016 |
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Re: 11111 by plappville(f): 10:41pm On Aug 26, 2016 |
Demmzy15: What lies did The OP said about ISLAM? I already know Islam is evil even before this thread was created. Islam is the dark aged religion. No other religion calls for a force conversion or death. No religion was founded by terrorist, Muderer and pedophi.le. Muhamed took Aisha for marriage at 6 and when He was 54 years old he consumed her,t then she was only 9. No wonder child abuse is so common in the islamic world. All this were recorded IN islamic books but each time Muslims will defend it was not true. Isnt it for the good of mankind that Islam is been exposed? Cant you see all the evil Islam has coursed in the world. Islam is the tool satan is using to drink blood. Apart from the killing of innocent by alla.h's army. What about the blood that flows in the hajj? Will a true God kill his worshippers at a time they were worshiping him? NO ! Take a deep breath and be sincere to yourself, you will agree with me on this. There is nothing like the Op buying audience here. I believe many people know islam is the religion of Satan. Its not what you say Islam is, but what Islam displays. And common, Muhamed was a filt.hy disgusti.ng Man. I didnt say that, please confirm from the Hadiths . 3 Likes |
Re: 11111 by exmuslim1: 10:45pm On Aug 26, 2016 |
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Re: 11111 by Immorttal: 10:52pm On Aug 26, 2016 |
exmuslim1:until you discover why spoken affirmations works then you'll know why incarntations and prayer works. Sadly people attributes it to supernatural forces and God. |
Re: 11111 by exmuslim1: 10:56pm On Aug 26, 2016 |
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Re: 11111 by Nobody: 11:20pm On Aug 26, 2016 |
If you say so. But please stay away from further involvement. I also dislike religion and religious politics but I found that you can have a relationship with God through Jesus, if seek Him with sincerity in heart. Also, I now know that Jesus wasn't even recognised for who He is by the most religious at the time, they even called Him the devil. The same applies today. This relationship is totally different from what most people know as christianity. No doubt, I trust you would find all the answers you desire, you are that breed. Just be careful about how you go about sharing your reasons for leaving Islam, especially these days that they burn people who only just talk about mohammed. exmuslim1: 3 Likes |
Re: 11111 by exmuslim1: 11:35pm On Aug 26, 2016 |
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Re: 11111 by udatso: 12:00am On Aug 27, 2016 |
exmuslim1:The slightest knowledge you have is from shayaatin. Read suratul baqara ayah 102. Did you forget the conversation of Allah with Iblis? Unfortunately for you, you are among those that Iblis won their heart. May Allah bring you back to hidaya Because Allah stated in the so many places in the Quran that he will grant Iblis the power to tempt us. You ahe an exMuslim, you should know This. I also noticed that you don't even know the Tafsir of these two verses you brought up BTW, we still don't have proof you actually brought a bird back to life. As ignorant as you are, you don't know that all messengers are prophets but not all prophets are messengers. And who told you prophet Luqman was a Rasul (messenger) ? And BTW how did you know he was black? Don't ignore these questions You have danced and rejoiced in your ignorance already. You exposed yourself that you weren't a knowledgeable Muslim even without this error included. I don't need any consolidation Proof? I have seen the hadith, checking it. Thanks
Modified :In Islam there are popular ahadith books. I really don't know this al-juhfa as one of them. May Allah guide you to the right path. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: 11111 by kellyJames5(m): 12:36am On Aug 27, 2016 |
..... what can i said.. .it's good to learned,informed and knowledgeable. |
Re: 11111 by exmuslim1: 12:42am On Aug 27, 2016 |
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Re: 11111 by udatso: 1:13am On Aug 27, 2016 |
exmuslim1:Perhaps you don't even read your post. Go and read your post again. You said al-juhfa vol 9. When ahadith are quoted, it's always ended with the reference. I assumed your al-juhfa vol 9 was your reference cos I didn't see the bracket. But I have now. I am sorry about that. But the reference you gave just says vol 9, vol 9 of which book? You are still making same mistake. I didn't say not all messengers are prophet. I said not all prophets are messengers but all messengers are prophets. And no you don't get the fact cos if you did, you won't be in this mess in the first place. I Can't keep going up and down with you 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: 11111 by exmuslim1: 1:29am On Aug 27, 2016 |
111 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: 11111 by Demmzy15(m): 2:41am On Aug 27, 2016 |
exmuslim1:You can see that you're a worthless loser. You asked for proofs for when whites were taken as slaves not exclusively blacks and it was given to you and you still nag and shine your cursed brown teeth? See this illiterate o, so if KKK wakes up, what na happen? I can see how clueless you're! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: 11111 by Demmzy15(m): 2:43am On Aug 27, 2016 |
TheSixthSense:So you think I'm so jobless to start refuting all his bogus claims? Why can't you try and verify just some of his claims? If you're reasonable enough, you should know that bursting his bubble on the "abd" stuff shows that he's a liar and fraud, yet you still support him! 1 Like |
Re: 11111 by exmuslim1: 3:01am On Aug 27, 2016 |
111 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: 11111 by Empiree: 3:58am On Aug 27, 2016 |
exmuslim1:I read you earlier. You sound like a typical joker |
Re: 11111 by Nobody: 5:57am On Aug 27, 2016 |
exmuslim1: Can you tell what will happen in the next 5mins? Now don't lie... |
Re: 11111 by Nobody: 6:41am On Aug 27, 2016 |
exmuslim1: Here is how it works, the prophet pbuh informed us that every human has his own jinn that accompanies him everywhere he goes from birth till death, so this jinn has knowledge about the person, he knows all his activities because the jinn was right there with him from his birth, the jinn knows his past but certainly not the future, which was why i asked earlier on if you can tell what will happen in the next 5mins. So for you to know have slight knowledge about another person, the jinn with that person Will inform your own accomplice who tells you about the person. Got it? Or you need more explanation? 2.Quran claims Allah alone can give and take life. Why do other forces make it possible for me to take life, and restore it back. Well, their master iblees do ask for Allaah's help for him to be able to do these things, in other words they do these things with the permission of Allaah just like how isa(a.s) gave life to a birth with the permission of Allaah(as isa himself said in the Qur'an). 3.The others are Nabiys and Rasuls, only the black one who's Lukman is a Rasul and not a Nabiy. Looks pretty racist to me. You see why we say you knew nothing about islam? How come you've not heard of "ash hadu anna muhammadan rosulullaah"? I.e I believe that Muhammad is the rasul(messenger) of Allaah. 5. I didn't say Abd means black. I said Abd means a slave and is a word used in referring to black people by Arabs. As usual, no proof for this statement. *yawns* to be continued when i'm done sleeping 2 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: 11111 by Nobody: 6:48am On Aug 27, 2016 |
exmuslim1: Pls give full reference to this hadith, full reference. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: 11111 by Nobody: 9:25am On Aug 27, 2016 |
exmuslim1: actually, i have seen the hadith in sahih al-bukhari, now let me do a little bit of explanation, interpretation of dreams is a gift that some prophets of Allaah have. We know that at least Yusuf(a.s) has it too. HOW IT WORKS IS UNKNOWN TO US, WE SIMPLY ACCEPT THE INTERPRETATION, however if you think that the prophet pbuh might be discriminating against black people or women let me put your mind at ease with these hadith hopefully you'll stop saying Muhammad hated blacks; “Once Allaah's Messenger (ﷺ) was asked, "Who is the most honorable amongst the people?" He said, "The most righteous (i.e. Allah-fearing) amongst you." …” check here for proof http://sunnah.com/bukhari/61/2 and “Verily Allaah does not look to your faces and your wealth but He looks to your heart and to your deeds.” check here for proof http://sunnah.com/muslim/45/42 as we can see, no mention of blacks being inferior to arabs, infact in his(Muhammad) last khutbah before he died, he made a clear-cut statement that an arab is not inferior to a black and vice versa except in piety, of which piety is determined by Allaah alone, not man. And Allaah Knows best. 6 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: 11111 by kabman: 10:37am On Aug 27, 2016 |
Religion is a farce used to control a populace in the7- 15th century middle east,africans cling to this book that hates them and proven to be wrong because of our low iqs. 3 Likes |
Re: 11111 by Nafizzey(m): 11:02am On Aug 27, 2016 |
Owliver:How do we identity the real God Bro. |
Re: 11111 by Owliver(m): 11:12am On Aug 27, 2016 |
Nafizzey:there's no real God or fake God. and you can't identify God. if you do then its no more God(knowledge unknown) what you know won't scare you or make you wonder or will have less importance. but what is unknown will make you search, fear, wonder, hold in high esteem. that makes it a God(A greater knowledge unknown) 1 Like |
Re: 11111 by Nobody: 11:19am On Aug 27, 2016 |
plappville: i know you have never been ok but i never knew your condition has gotten this worse, pele, get well soon. |
Re: 11111 by exmuslim1: 11:31am On Aug 27, 2016 |
111 2 Likes |
Re: 11111 by Nobody: 11:34am On Aug 27, 2016 |
exmuslim1: Learn manners. |
Re: 11111 by Nobody: 11:36am On Aug 27, 2016 |
exmuslim1: Give us the proof of this your tafsir... |
Re: 11111 by exmuslim1: 11:37am On Aug 27, 2016 |
111 |
Re: 11111 by exmuslim1: 11:38am On Aug 27, 2016 |
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Re: 11111 by Nobody: 11:38am On Aug 27, 2016 |
exmuslim1: You are a contradictory person, you brought a hadith trying to claim Muhammad saw black women as bad omen, is that also suggesting slavery |
Re: 11111 by Nobody: 11:39am On Aug 27, 2016 |
exmuslim1: you are very funny, you made a claim, the onus lies on you to prove the claim, you think you are talking to a toddler? |
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