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Re: PHARMACY: The Most Difficult And Lucrative Medical Course by Nobody: 3:08pm On Aug 28, 2016
bizme:




Pharmacists are one of the very few professionals that are rarely jobless. It is not uncommon for a Nigerian pharmacist to have multiple jobs and sources of income, except those very docile and sedentary ones. It is in higher demand than nursing, medicine etc. However, it is one of the toughest courses to study and you need more than cramming: you need to be well-rounded in mathematical, chemical, biological, and legal aspects.
True. i have never met a jobless pharmacist. My woman rejected offers from lagos state gov, unilag and GSK when we lived in Nigeria. These were all paying over 100k, and this was just a year or two after grad. I cant think of any other profession that can do that in Nigeria.

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Re: PHARMACY: The Most Difficult And Lucrative Medical Course by Sylvarresta(m): 3:18pm On Aug 28, 2016
CaraJewel:
Pls tell mi about Mls in terms of wat u wrote about pharm.oops jxt saw whr u posted a pharmacist.tho i wish u can stil gv mi an insight if u knw
tnx
MLS is the bedrock of modern medicine, we solve all health related problems

Re: PHARMACY: The Most Difficult And Lucrative Medical Course by stardomberry: 3:28pm On Aug 28, 2016
it's not a paramedical course
Re: PHARMACY: The Most Difficult And Lucrative Medical Course by AlphaT1(m): 3:53pm On Aug 28, 2016
billyG:

Multimillionaires for producing drugs like paracetamol or selliing made in china drugs like chemists?
You are uninformed, you knw little about drugs. You regard paracetamol as an ordinary drug, it is not. Infact it has no substitute, it's the only agent in its class. It is a life-saving drug, the best anti-pyretic that no drug has been able to beat. Learn to get informed before commenting on what you have little knowledge in.
If only you have idea of how expensive and time- consuming drug research is, you would appreciate the scientists involved.

Also, selling made in china drugs as u put it, is legal and most encouraged in a developing nation like Nigeria, for those that meet minimum standards. These are generics and are more affordable compared to brands that majority of the population cannot afford.

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Re: PHARMACY: The Most Difficult And Lucrative Medical Course by croSStodds(m): 4:05pm On Aug 28, 2016
femi4:
Imagine 100k a month? When a trainee in my field goes home with 300k in engineering field
trainee in what field? How many trainees get recruited by oil companies per year?Engineering students constitute the greatest percentage of unemployed graduates,,,Even with a masters,,you probably stand no chance.

It's very hard to get into oil firms,,very very very difficult..
Nnpc,chevron, shell,haliburton are laying off workers talkless of recruiting..I have a lot of them as friends and I pity them a lot..
A lot of them after years of fruitless job searching go into finance sector after getting ican,MBA and ACCA.. apparently contravening the career path.

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Re: PHARMACY: The Most Difficult And Lucrative Medical Course by xreal: 4:10pm On Aug 28, 2016
Alvaropromise:
peepz be acting like an auto corrector... so if MLS is wrong..ur dead brain did not tell ya that Doctor is wrong too huh?

You are blessed.
Re: PHARMACY: The Most Difficult And Lucrative Medical Course by billyG(m): 4:10pm On Aug 28, 2016
AlphaT1:

You are uninformed, you knw little about drugs. You regard paracetamol as an ordinary drug, it is not. Infact it has no substitute, it's the only agent in its class. It is a life-saving drug, the best anti-pyretic that no drug has been able to beat. Learn to get informed before commenting on what you have little knowledge in.
If only you have idea of how expensive and time- consuming drug research is, you would appreciate the scientists involved.

Also, selling made in china drugs as u put it, is legal and most encouraged in a developing nation like Nigeria, for those that meet minimum standards. These are generics and are more affordable compared to brands that majority of the population cannot afford.
common are u telling me paracetamol has no alternatives hav u heard of aspirin,ibruprofen,acetimophen.

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Re: PHARMACY: The Most Difficult And Lucrative Medical Course by croSStodds(m): 4:35pm On Aug 28, 2016
delerx:
I am a pharmacist but so sure this guy is a new bee in the comb. Wait till after some years and see how ur banking and engineering friends r doing. Or u think it's by those flashy cars company's give them . The truth is that we r not without jobs, @least a 100k salary is sure for a new bee.in years to come I see the profession going down the drain
Going down d drain?Why??
Engineering friends,,how may of them get recruited into oil firms,,a lot of them are laying off workers talkless of recruiting.
one of my friends graduated with a first class in Mech engnr and did his masters in mechatronics and tunneling,Michigan for that matter,and yet searched far and wide with no job,he went for ACCA after 4yrs before getting recruited as an ET in diamond,yet,got laid off recently,,

I actually expect you to be learned but you appear kind of ignorant,I've once worked as an EA in union bank in d marketing department,targets are fvcking crazy,,8-10pm everyday and sometimes 11,12pm,no time for my family,nothing,,A civil service job is better,,Private works are overhyed.jor
Re: PHARMACY: The Most Difficult And Lucrative Medical Course by salveoP(m): 4:48pm On Aug 28, 2016
bizme:


I still do not understand why anyone has to cram to study for a pharmacy degree. I immensely enjoyed my undergrad years as a pharmacy students, and yes I attended one of the most difficult faculties of pharmacy in Nigeria. Admittedly, majority of Nigerian students (be they Pharmacy students, Medical students, Yoruba, Business Admin students..etc) feel the need to cram to bag their respective degrees. That in itself is a failure of the educational system we run. And it is not limited to Pharmacy students. Students need to cram when the curriculum is lopsided in favour of didactic teaching to the detriment of exposure to real life situations. As a pharmacy student I found every bit of the experience fascinating, the microbiology, the biochemistry, the pharmacology, the pharmaceutical and medicinal chemistry, the pharmaceutics, the pharmacognosy, the forensics...
I just wish our educators in the country would have the courage to make learning more exciting than it currently is.

As men of honour, we join hands.
. so u didn't cram the shikimic pathway?? If I hear.....

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Re: PHARMACY: The Most Difficult And Lucrative Medical Course by AlphaT1(m): 5:09pm On Aug 28, 2016
Victurh:
Pharmacy is a 5yr course+ 1yr internship+ 1yr Nysc. Any student who wishes to study pharmacy must first of all love chemistry!. And must be very good in phy maths bio.
Pharmacy is a course dat has a whole faculty dedicated to it alone (faculty of pharmacy) and comprises of five branches and one unit;
- Clinical pharmacy and pharmacy administration
- Pharmaceutical chemistry
- Pharmaceutics
- Pharmacognosy
- Pharmacology
- Drug research and production unit

To be a pharmacist, u must be able to cram. People often said that if u can study pharmacy, u can study medicine conveniently.
The sole work of a pharmacist is to ensure proper dispensation and usage of drugs.
Remember, only pharmacists are licensed to import, dispense and sell drugs.
As a pharmacist, u have career options in
(a). Community pharmacy

1. Ur license is being used by another personnel to get his/ her pharmacy store registered with grants ranging from 500K and above (depending on how big the company is). Why dat amount?. Because using ur license would result into you being the owner of the company and u are d one recognised by PCN as the owner and d risk bearer.
You still have d opportunity to work in d same person's pharmacy company as d chief pharmacist or as a pharmacist in another pharmacy outlet wit a salary of 80K for a start, apart from d grant u were given 4 using ur license, and u can withdraw it after a yr depending on ur agreement.
2. U'll have a registered pharmacy store and u are a boss on ur own, provided u have the money

(a). Industrial pharmacists

1. Pharmacists work as Medical Sales Representatives in National and multi- national pharmaceutical industries/ companies, where you are given a car, laptop (in some) with pay above 100K.
The likes of Neimeth, Roche, Sandoz Norvatis, Emzor, Reckitt benckiser, Gsk and so on are top companies dat employ mainly Pharmacists.
2. Some work as research pharmacists, who are the brains behind the ingredients, testing and correct mixing of the drugs.
3. NAFDAC is majorly for pharmacists, wit some other health workers too, tho

(c). Hospital pharmacy

U work in the pharmacy section of an hospital

Pharmacists deserve all dz pay because they worth it. They went through 'hell' in the Univ. not only them tho. Even medical students often have issues wit pharmacology, which is just one of d key areas of pharmacy.

Above all, Pray!!!. Put God first in all things.

This is not to discourage people in oda fields, all successful people aren't pharmacists.

Every area of life has its own stress, toughness and MONEY too, since nobody came to dz life to suffer.

Peace..

When I filled pharmacy (1st and 2nd choices) in my JAMB form some yrs ago, my dad (of blessed memory) insisted that I must change it to medicine (MBBS), I refused and stood my ground. It wasn’t an easy war. Even though I was an all round excellent student, I had soft spot for chemistry and so I preferred pharmacy to medicine. And I have never regretted that decision.

I graduated with a distinction eventually. My salary as an intern was 139k and I was able to save 800K (for the 12 months). In my NYSC I was posted to a missionary hospital to head a pharmacy dept (of 5 Pharm. Techs and 12 dispensers). I brought a turn around in d dept and was making monthly purchase of over 3million Naira. Jst after two months the MD increased my salary from 50K to 80K with a weekly recharge card allowance of 2K. My house was furnished and equipped with dstv and Internet facility. Four months into service, the MD added to my care the PMCT unit that was being funded by GHAIN and my salary increased to 120K. 6months into service GHAIN absorbed me as their staff and offered me 250K (allowance inclusive). I was able to save upto to 3.5million Naira from service yr. I passed out from NYSC and continued with GHAIN for one yr (earning upto 5mil per annum). When I showed dad my savings, he couldn't believe it. Over 8mil jst one yr after graduation? Wow! You made the right choice son. God bless your choice. I was wrong.

I left GHAIN to go for MSc but lost dad midway and had to go look for work, I got two offers from federal hospitals but rejected both. Got assistant lecturer position with a federal university but turned it down still. Got a multinational with a very good pay and benefits, went for their training but never resumed.
Finally picked up the one I am doing now.

Before my dad passed on, he was convinced that indeed it's good to allow children follow their interest (if such are good). Just guide them as a parent.

Almost all my close friends (from that group of excellent students) in secondary school went for MBBS. We are still friends to date but none of them is yet to achieve 1/2 of what I have been able to achieve within this short period....

Just go for what you love, study hard and make a good grade, prepare and Pray for a good job, be prudent, save well and plan for the future.

God bless.

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Re: PHARMACY: The Most Difficult And Lucrative Medical Course by AlphaT1(m): 5:38pm On Aug 28, 2016
billyG:

common are u telling me paracetamol has no alternatives hav u heard of aspirin,ibruprofen,acetimophen.
Hahhahaha, that's why I said you are not informed, just don't comment on what you have limited knowledge in. Acetaminophen is another scientific name for paracetamol (mostly used in the U.S).
Aspirin and Ibuprofen are NSAIDs and not paracetamol substitutes. They are analgesics (pain killers) with very little anti-pyretic effect. No doctor in his right senses would ordinarily start giving you NSAIDs for pyrexia. Aspirin and Ibuprofen are not good in ulcer patients, asthmatics, infants etc. Paracetamol is not contra-indicated in the above conditions. I am using simple plain language so you would understand.
It is because you are in Nigeria where everything goes, if not only trained professionals handle drug matters overseas.

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Re: PHARMACY: The Most Difficult And Lucrative Medical Course by delerx(m): 5:40pm On Aug 28, 2016
Boy o boy. I m not ignorant,I am sure u r not married that's y u r using the word' lucrative' the profession is just ok not lucrative.our older colleagues r even making the profession scary witch hunting younger pharmacists .but things being equal, engineers r beta paid. Do u no the stress some med reps go thru,or u think they don't get sacked too. But all the same I am a proud and happy pharmacist. Anyways buzz me on my whatsapp 07030409811
Let's chat and reason together

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Re: PHARMACY: The Most Difficult And Lucrative Medical Course by delerx(m): 5:41pm On Aug 28, 2016
Boy o boy. I m not ignorant,I am sure u r not married that's y u r using the word' lucrative' the profession is just ok not lucrative.our older colleagues r even making the profession scary witch hunting younger pharmacists .but things being equal, engineers r beta paid. Do u no the stress some med reps go thru,or u think they don't get sacked too. But all the same I am a proud and happy pharmacist. Anyways buzz me on my whatsapp 07030409811
Let's chat and reason together
Re: PHARMACY: The Most Difficult And Lucrative Medical Course by delerx(m): 5:50pm On Aug 28, 2016
Ogbeni pharmacy student bawo. 07030409811
olaajilaran:


it appears you are a pharmacy student.. kindly drop your WhatsApp number, let me add you... I'm also an aspirant.
let's chat please.
Re: PHARMACY: The Most Difficult And Lucrative Medical Course by EmmanicX(m): 5:50pm On Aug 28, 2016
bizme:


Check your inbox, I just sent you an e-mail.



Pls sir... I need it too, would be glad if you can send it to me.. emmanuelaigbiremhon@yahoo.com.

NB... on MLS.

thanks.
Re: PHARMACY: The Most Difficult And Lucrative Medical Course by delerx(m): 5:54pm On Aug 28, 2016
O boy? Where did u train train. U tried with those savings. 07030409811 Let's chat.as men of honour...
AlphaT1:


When I filled pharmacy (1st and 2nd choices) in my JAMB form some yrs ago, my dad (of blessed memory) insisted that I must change it to medicine (MBBS), I refused and stood my ground. It wasn’t an easy war. Even though I was an all round excellent student, I had soft spot for chemistry and so I preferred pharmacy to medicine. And I have never regretted that decision.

I graduated with a distinction eventually. My salary as an intern was 139k and I was able to save 800K (for the 12 months). In my NYSC I was posted to a missionary hospital to head a pharmacy dept (of 5 Pharm. Techs and 12 dispensers). I brought a turn around in d dept and was making monthly purchase of over 3million Naira. Jst after two months the MD increased my salary from 50K to 80K with a weekly recharge card allowance of 2K. My house was furnished and equipped with dstv and Internet facility. Four months into service, the MD added to my care the PMCT unit that was being funded by GHAIN and my salary increased to 120K. 6months into service GHAIN absorbed me as their staff and offered me 250K (allowance inclusive). I was able to save upto to 3.5million Naira from service yr. I passed out from NYSC and continued with GHAIN for one yr (earning upto 5mil per annum). When I showed dad my savings, he couldn't believe it. Over 8mil jst one yr after graduation? Wow! You made the right choice son. God bless your choice. I was wrong.

I left GHAIN to go for MSc but lost dad midway and had to go look for work, I got two offers from federal hospitals but rejected both. Got assistant lecturer position with Unilag but turned it down still. Got a multinational with a very good pay and benefits, went for their training but never resumed.
Finally picked up the one I am doing now.

Before my dad passed on, he was convinced that indeed it's good to allow children follow their interest (if such are good). Just guide them as a parent.

Almost all my close friends (from that group of excellent students) in secondary school went for MBBS. We are still friends to date but none of them is yet to achieve 1/2 of what I have been able to achieve within this short period....

Just go for what you love, study hard and make a good grade, prepare and Pray for a good job, be prudent, save well and plan for the future.

God bless.

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Re: PHARMACY: The Most Difficult And Lucrative Medical Course by delerx(m): 5:55pm On Aug 28, 2016
As men of honour
Re: PHARMACY: The Most Difficult And Lucrative Medical Course by olaajilaran(m): 6:26pm On Aug 28, 2016
EdoBoy90:
. Do u know who you are calling a pharmacy student? Can you say Sir or Madam whichever case?
I'm sorry.
OK sir can I have your WhatsApp number
Re: PHARMACY: The Most Difficult And Lucrative Medical Course by olaajilaran(m): 6:35pm On Aug 28, 2016
AlphaT1:


When I filled pharmacy (1st and 2nd choices) in my JAMB form some yrs ago, my dad (of blessed memory) insisted that I must change it to medicine (MBBS), I refused and stood my ground. It wasn’t an easy war. Even though I was an all round excellent student, I had soft spot for chemistry and so I preferred pharmacy to medicine. And I have never regretted that decision.

I graduated with a distinction eventually. My salary as an intern was 139k and I was able to save 800K (for the 12 months). In my NYSC I was posted to a missionary hospital to head a pharmacy dept (of 5 Pharm. Techs and 12 dispensers). I brought a turn around in d dept and was making monthly purchase of over 3million Naira. Jst after two months the MD increased my salary from 50K to 80K with a weekly recharge card allowance of 2K. My house was furnished and equipped with dstv and Internet facility. Four months into service, the MD added to my care the PMCT unit that was being funded by GHAIN and my salary increased to 120K. 6months into service GHAIN absorbed me as their staff and offered me 250K (allowance inclusive). I was able to save upto to 3.5million Naira from service yr. I passed out from NYSC and continued with GHAIN for one yr (earning upto 5mil per annum). When I showed dad my savings, he couldn't believe it. Over 8mil jst one yr after graduation? Wow! You made the right choice son. God bless your choice. I was wrong.

I left GHAIN to go for MSc but lost dad midway and had to go look for work, I got two offers from federal hospitals but rejected both. Got assistant lecturer position with Unilag but turned it down still. Got a multinational with a very good pay and benefits, went for their training but never resumed.
Finally picked up the one I am doing now.

Before my dad passed on, he was convinced that indeed it's good to allow children follow their interest (if such are good). Just guide them as a parent.

Almost all my close friends (from that group of excellent students) in secondary school went for MBBS. We are still friends to date but none of them is yet to achieve 1/2 of what I have been able to achieve within this short period....

Just go for what you love, study hard and make a good grade, prepare and Pray for a good job, be prudent, save well and plan for the future.

God bless.

good day sir/madam.
I'm a pharmacy aspirant, and I've been discouraged by a lot of negative comments about pharmacy.
your write up, above motivates me a lot .
And I'll love to be in contact with you.
Can I have your WhatsApp number please?
I'll love to chat with you.
Re: PHARMACY: The Most Difficult And Lucrative Medical Course by billyG(m): 6:38pm On Aug 28, 2016
AlphaT1:

Hahhahaha, that's why I said you are not informed, just don't comment on what you have limited knowledge in. Acetaminophen is another scientific name for paracetamol (mostly used in the U.S).
Aspirin and Ibuprofen are NSAIDs and not paracetamol substitutes. They are analgesics (pain killers) with very little anti-pyretic effect. No doctor in his right senses would ordinarily start giving you NSAIDs for pyrexia. Aspirin and Ibuprofen are not good in ulcer patients, asthmatics, infants etc. Paracetamol is not contra-indicated in the above conditions. I am using simple plain language so you would understand.
It is because you are in Nigeria where everything goes, if not only trained professionals handle drug matters overseas.
I rest ma case oga pharmacist,d acetaminophen stuff was an act of commission.
Re: PHARMACY: The Most Difficult And Lucrative Medical Course by Nobody: 7:15pm On Aug 28, 2016
olaajilaran:


it appears you are a pharmacy student.. kindly drop your WhatsApp number, let me add you... I'm also an aspirant.

I am a pharmacist, and not a pharmacy student. We are looking forward to your joining us in the profession.
Re: PHARMACY: The Most Difficult And Lucrative Medical Course by Nobody: 7:16pm On Aug 28, 2016
EdoBoy90:
. Professor, I greet you Sir.

Good to see you again sir. And happy Sunday.
Re: PHARMACY: The Most Difficult And Lucrative Medical Course by Nobody: 7:21pm On Aug 28, 2016
femi4:
Imagine 100k a month? When a trainee in my field goes home with 300k in engineering field
You are right. 100k per month is not a lot. But for a pharmacist fully maximizing opportunities he 300k is also too small. In fact, 300k is an amount he can conveniently make per day. Not per month.

In any case, you are not truly practising as a pharmacist if all you do is collect salaries, even if it is 2m per month.

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Re: PHARMACY: The Most Difficult And Lucrative Medical Course by lookingfly: 7:26pm On Aug 28, 2016
people3:
chemist and pharmacy no definite different btw Them... Veterinarian medicine is more harder and difficult than pharmacy.
thank you for reminding him.........pls help me ask him y he said nafdac is only meant for pharmacist,what do pharmacist know about the f=food in nafdac or what have they done about the food in nigerian.vets are more equiped to host nafdac than even the pharmacist.
Re: PHARMACY: The Most Difficult And Lucrative Medical Course by lookingfly: 7:43pm On Aug 28, 2016
Sylvarresta:
MLS is the bedrock of modern medicine, we solve all health related problems
tell me who has been lying to you?
Re: PHARMACY: The Most Difficult And Lucrative Medical Course by karcin: 7:48pm On Aug 28, 2016
I'm wondering if this is some form of inferiority complex on the part of the pharmacists. How come the doctors don't come here to brag about how wonderful their profession is; and how they are better than everyone else. You guys should learn to run on your lane, nobody is dragging your profession with you

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Re: PHARMACY: The Most Difficult And Lucrative Medical Course by Nobody: 7:51pm On Aug 28, 2016
salveoP:
. so u didn't cram the shikimic pathway?? If I hear.....

I guess we are different. And we have different levels of motivation for studying pharmacy.

Every aspect of the programme was enjoyable. I did not have to cram. There was no year during my undergrad that my CGPA fell below 4.50 all through the five years. And yes, I went to one of the toughest pharmacy schools in Nigeria- OAU. But my method of reading was a little different. I used to read one or two sessions ahead. before resuming into 200 Level I had on my own finished Radiopharmacy and the likes, all 400L pharmchem topics. Class lectures were mostly revisions for me. I had (still do) have a peculiar interest in pharmacy.

Pharmacognosy is one of the most hated courses. But not for me. Right now using programming, and state-of-the-art CADD methods I am mining Nigerian plants' secondary metabolites for lead compounds for disease treatment. Last weekend I made an unprecedented breakthrough in using the method to identify three compounds that reversed RBC sickling (in vitro) in donated SCD patients' blood.
Pharmchem is one of the most feared courses. But for me it was one course I didn't have to read to clear As. Why? Because pharmchem provides me with the highest level of fascination: all drug interaction with the biological system is chemical in nature. Modify a moiety on your molecule and you get a new spectrum of activity. Methylate morphine and you get codeine with entirely new biological activity (antitussive), diminished narcotic effect, heightened gastro intestinal effect...
And pharmacology...for me it's one and the same with pharmaceutical chemistry; you're simply mapping out biological effects of chemical substances. And at research level, there's hardly any difference from medicinal chemistry.
Pharmaceutics nko? How else would I optimize therapy when I have no clue how to assure bioavailability by rationally choosing a dosage form and delivery system that can achieve that? How else would I be able to prepare extemporaneously in a way that targets each patient's individuality? How else would I know why to discourage the harmful and ridiculous practice of boiling Alabunkun (acetylsalicylic acid) in 7up?
Clinical pharmacy...is the melting point for all our courses, especially for some of us at community pharmacies.

So no, I didn't have to cram the Shikimic acid pathway. And it is simple how not to cram; try reading to understand and not just to pass.

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Re: PHARMACY: The Most Difficult And Lucrative Medical Course by Nobody: 7:56pm On Aug 28, 2016
karcin:
I'm wondering if this is some form of inferiority complex on the part of the pharmacists. How come the doctors don't come here to brag about how wonderful their profession is; and how they are better than everyone else. You guys should learn to run on your lane, nobody is dragging your profession with you

I don't think this thread is really about doctors or medicine as a degree programme. There is no reason for you to interpret this gesture by the Op as signalling inferiority complex. And there is nothing bad in people coming out claiming Carpentry is the best vocation. Yes, for some people it is the best vocation, for others no.

If pharmacy is not the best for you, that is all fine and dandy. That in itself is not a reason to call others' excitement a show of inferiority complex.

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Re: PHARMACY: The Most Difficult And Lucrative Medical Course by drey08(m): 8:24pm On Aug 28, 2016
Pharmacy is tough but its not a medical course from a medical student abroad
Re: PHARMACY: The Most Difficult And Lucrative Medical Course by Nobody: 8:52pm On Aug 28, 2016
drey08:
Pharmacy is tough but its not a medical course from a medical student abroad

You're right. I believe the Op made a mistake in using the word "medical" for pharmacy. Pharmacy is not a medical course, it is a pharmaceutical course. If it is possible to correct the tag, and the Op is disposed to doing so, then that will be great. If not, we can allow for the error.

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Re: PHARMACY: The Most Difficult And Lucrative Medical Course by AnnyBlinks: 9:36pm On Aug 28, 2016
Pharmacy is a noble profession, it is versatile and very lucrative.

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Re: PHARMACY: The Most Difficult And Lucrative Medical Course by nelszx: 11:33pm On Aug 28, 2016
lookingfly:
tell me who has been lying to you?
Tell him what it is so he won't dwell in the lies again

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