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Re: SEC Warns Nigerians Of The Dangers Of MMM, Calls It Fraud by Iceking1(m): 9:43am On Sep 01, 2016
Joel3:
this is how it works..

if you help someone. that amount let say N50k. this 50k will enters your mavro account. and it grows at 30% a month. at the end of 30days it will be N70k. so if you request for help. someone will help you with the N70 cash out. the person that help you with 70k another person will help that one at 30days. then u too can help another again and again just like that.
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Hello sir, i want to register on mmm but am afraid, because i read some where that after someone requested from help from you if after two days you have not responded they you will be banned permanently and all your money will be lost.
Re: SEC Warns Nigerians Of The Dangers Of MMM, Calls It Fraud by JeffreyJamez(m): 9:45am On Sep 01, 2016
micky2004:
traffic my brother, the same way Facebook, Google, Yahoo, Twitter is making their money from the data you are buying to browse their websites.

This is the Dumbest comment I have seen in my life!!!!!!....GAwd!!!!!!.... shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked shocked

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Re: SEC Warns Nigerians Of The Dangers Of MMM, Calls It Fraud by Iceking1(m): 9:45am On Sep 01, 2016
Joel3:
shut up. as I said before it's not a scam.

it's a simple logic. but it's a threat to our banking sector and the economy. the money is in circle between the banking chain and growing rapidly for doing nothing. it will hurt down our very own economy like recession.

the prosperity is a fake prosperity.
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Hello sir, i want to register on mmm but am afraid, because i read some where that after someone requested from help from you if after two days you have not responded they you will be banned permanently and all your money will be lost.
Re: SEC Warns Nigerians Of The Dangers Of MMM, Calls It Fraud by Iceking1(m): 9:46am On Sep 01, 2016
mckoolcharming:


list the capital projects when food is paramount..... people are yet to feed and you are talking about capital project. if MMM is a risk, I will take it a million times rather than hope on those gullible brethren
Suddenly the government cares about us.
With over 20Million unemployed Nigerian youths and a massive economic recession, the clueless Nigerian Government is telling me that I should not freely give out my spare money and get financial help after 30days!
MMM has changed my live and that of my family and I have one word for the Government and it's agencies. Thanks for the advice.
Now please mind you own business and stay away from mine.
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Hello sir, i want to register on mmm but am afraid, because i read some where that after someone requested from help from you if after two days you have not responded they you will be banned permanently and all your money will be lost.
Re: SEC Warns Nigerians Of The Dangers Of MMM, Calls It Fraud by luvme0702: 9:47am On Sep 01, 2016
You have said it all jare. You be better pikin. Longlive MMM! Thank you Mavro. I quote author=mckoolcharming post=48968939]


If only they will admit that banks are ponzi scheme, then I will agree that MMM is a ponzi scheme.

1. MMM is not an Investment program. We are helping ourselves to be financially free. The government has failed us and we have decided to help ourselves

2. MMM does not collect our money. We pay directly to other people's account.

3. MMM is not a company, as such, there is no point registering with SEC.

4. Is there any law in this country forbidding us to help our brother? If there is, then you can shut us down

5. If the government begins to gives us 24hours electricity, pay a minimum wage of NGN200,000 per month, employs everyone that is unemployed, then we can consider leaving MMM[/quote]

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Re: SEC Warns Nigerians Of The Dangers Of MMM, Calls It Fraud by Nobody: 9:47am On Sep 01, 2016
[size=15pt]Damn! The way proponents of this scheme are ready to defend it even with their lives is very surprising. They defend it so much that they are even ready to sacrifice their lives for it. See the fury, anger and frenzy with which they crush anything or anyone that speaks negatively about MMM. THE LURE OF EASY MONEY IS THE STRONGEST TRAP IN THE WORLD [/size]

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Re: SEC Warns Nigerians Of The Dangers Of MMM, Calls It Fraud by pippimp(m): 9:48am On Sep 01, 2016
moendowed:

Has facebook, twitter or instagram register with any body in Nigeria? Don't forget the meaning of the word Online or community.
As long as there are no physical offices anywhere it doesn't need registration with any govt body.

Your argument does not make any sense. How much is facebook, twitter or instagram asking you to invest? Whenever funds are solicited from the public, that organisation has to be monitored. That is how normal countries do it. Plus, facebook, twitter and instagram are held accountable by their home countries, region, continent they operate in. It is just that Nigeria is not normal. Google it. You will find that they have at one point in time paid fines for not conducting business the right way. Which means they are regulated.

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Re: SEC Warns Nigerians Of The Dangers Of MMM, Calls It Fraud by rusher14: 9:52am On Sep 01, 2016
Acidosis:


They don't have any account!



I think Nigerian Banks and the FG are the greatest scammers on earth. Bunch of ediots!


Put N500k in a bank, the useless banks will use this money for business, make money, declare phantom profits and pay you N200 interest after a year! Bunch of f00ls.


As far as members of MMM are making their profits, it is NOT and will never be a scam unless proven by the management.


These f00lish leaders sit in their toilets round tripping dollars, declaring Fx profit at the comfort of their homes, and they expect people to remain on the same spot?! NEVER!

BANKS are the greatest scammer! ONLY a F00l will leave large sum of money (millions) with a bank, especially in a recessionary third world economy! Your idle money (savings) is putting wealth on the Table of Corporate Scammers - Banks who go behind doors to condemn MMM when in fact, they do corny and dirty deals.

I only pity some petty news-monger who believe these f00lish leaders have their interest at heart. If you believe MMM will save your finances, go ahead and invest! The f00lish leaders know their survival strategy! They steal the dollars, hide them and push us into recession!

Use your head people! Do not let those suits deceive you! Banks are not better than MMM!

I am quoting this for future reference.

I can bet there'll be no MMM in 6 months tops.

I would definitely haunt you around this platform for encouraging the uninformed to part with their money in what is evidently a fraud.

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Re: SEC Warns Nigerians Of The Dangers Of MMM, Calls It Fraud by JeffreyJamez(m): 9:52am On Sep 01, 2016
moendowed:

Has facebook, twitter or instagram register with any body in Nigeria? Don't forget the meaning of the word Online or community.
As long as there are no physical offices anywhere it doesn't need registration with any govt body.

So you expect me to put my money in an Online community with a weak website?...are you normal at all? undecided

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Re: SEC Warns Nigerians Of The Dangers Of MMM, Calls It Fraud by Nobody: 9:54am On Sep 01, 2016
JeffreyJamez:


So you expect me to put my money in an Online community with a weak website?...are you normal at all? undecided
No I don't , I expect u to remain the way you are.

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Re: SEC Warns Nigerians Of The Dangers Of MMM, Calls It Fraud by JeffreyJamez(m): 9:55am On Sep 01, 2016
Nnaabros:
[size=15pt]Damn! The way proponents of this scheme are ready to defend it even with their lives is very surprising. They defend it so much that they are even ready to sacrifice their lives for. See the fury, anger and frenzy with which they crush anything or anyone that speaks negatively about MMM. THE LURE OF EASY MONEY IS THE STRONGEST TRAP IN THE WORLD [/size]

I dont even understand fa!

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Re: SEC Warns Nigerians Of The Dangers Of MMM, Calls It Fraud by longerthroat(m): 9:55am On Sep 01, 2016
why did MMM fail in both Russia and USA?

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Re: SEC Warns Nigerians Of The Dangers Of MMM, Calls It Fraud by jakiedudu(m): 9:55am On Sep 01, 2016
grossintel:
You know what, mmm is not an investment. Unlike you said you invested 130k and they folded up weeks later in mmm you hold your money with you till you are called which takes like 2weeks or a month and. When you are called you don't pay to mmm they don't have an account, you pay to the person that called you for help and you confirm with your mmm account simple. Money moves from your bank to my bank and not to any organisation to keep.
This thing really makes sense.
Lets say I join MMM by helping someone out with N50,000. Later on I request for help. How much will another MMM member pay into my account?
Re: SEC Warns Nigerians Of The Dangers Of MMM, Calls It Fraud by Mboi2: 9:58am On Sep 01, 2016
aminho:
oga take it or leave it i lost 500k naira on mmm its a fraud
Lies!!! How did u loose the money, do u have up to N20k in ur entire life?

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Re: SEC Warns Nigerians Of The Dangers Of MMM, Calls It Fraud by PaulIdu: 10:00am On Sep 01, 2016
neocortex:


You see those group you mentioned, you only get what you will eventually put in which
is a normal thing. But this MMM promises you 30%, where do you think the extra comes from ?
Nobody will put their money in MMM if they have to pay back all they have earned from it.

scamming is a psychological science targetted toward the greedy .. to achieve this you need a greed bait and that is why they add 30 percent to attract the greedy once ..why do they chose the greedy? Greed is like an addiction and those who have it will never pass any opportunity to reveal their greed

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Re: SEC Warns Nigerians Of The Dangers Of MMM, Calls It Fraud by Johnrake69: 10:01am On Sep 01, 2016
RexEmmyGee:
How does MMM generate 30% to pay participants?

This is a question that can never stop being asked. I have tried explaining this severally BUT its like "magic" to so many.

I understand everyone's fears that's why I will break it all down further mathematically below.

Let's say,

100 donations came in from 100 participants @2,000naira each = 200,000naira

In order for the 100 donations to be paid their 30%, that means 60,000naira extra donations must come in.

The BIG QUESTION is then how?

Here it is:-
The 60,000naira wld come in through:-

(1.) Regular GH and re-PH from the 100 donations done by the participants.

Here is d maths:-
50 participants GH all their earnings + Principal donation = 130,000naira.

Total left over PH balance = 70,000naira

The remaining 50 then needs 60,000naira to get their own 130,000naira paid too.

The first 50 paid 130,000naira total then re-PH back their 100,000naira (maybe keeping back their total profit of 30,000naira)

That then adds up to the 70,000naira available to pay the 50 participants left (130,000naira).

++ So, the cycle continues on and on for as long as the principle of Regular GH and re-PH remains!!!

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This is just d same Principle Banks work with. That is why it is possible for just a deposit to serve 10 - 20 withdrawals.

And they pay you little interests for using your money to keep the redistribution process going!!

++NOTE+++
Don't come and do "Hit and Run" - The one u GH'ed and ran away with will soon finish and u will have to start all over again when coming back!! Why not just relax and earn for a longer period.

So whether new donations comes in OR not, the process of providing and getting help can continue for as long as all participants knows the whole process depends on their actions or inactions!!!

Secondly

(2.) New donations coming in through participants referring others to the community. This keeps the system consistently growing!! Every business (offline/online) needs new sales to survive..

Yes - MMM provides NO Guarantee and we all donate ONLY our "Spare Money"

BUT sincerely it can go on for as long as we all want since we all make the Community what it is!!

Always remember that in MMM there is

++ No Company Account!! Mavrodi can't wake up one day and ghost off with the money since we are not paying to his account.

++ You bank account/bitcoin wallet is MMM's account.

MMM's strength is the IDEOLOGY above that I broke down mathematically!!!

We are the Community!!

Together We Change The World..

I think you're more enlightened about the scheme than most people I know who are hell bent on getting scammed. Now, do you sincerely believe that the process of determining who gets help can't be manipulated by Mavrodi? Mavrodi and his team could be playing with millions of dollars on the scheme. And it's most likely that they will be paid before any other member. And that is the scam.

MMM and the banking system run on the same principle of credit creation, in the sense that the amount of credit created within the system will never be repaid cos the money does not exist in the first place. The upper hand the bank has is that tax payers money will always come to the rescue.

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Re: SEC Warns Nigerians Of The Dangers Of MMM, Calls It Fraud by larryjay123(m): 10:02am On Sep 01, 2016
please... if u know details on how to successfully run MMM kindly put me through @ 07032520697,olarewajujimoh@gmail.com
Re: SEC Warns Nigerians Of The Dangers Of MMM, Calls It Fraud by Nobody: 10:04am On Sep 01, 2016
Iceking1:

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Hello sir, i want to register on mmm but am afraid, because i read some where that after someone requested from help from you if after two days you have not responded they you will be banned permanently and all your money will be lost.

That's not true, this is , if u register and u are asked to pay the money and u can't pay or refuse to pay after 2days then u will blocked from the community and u keep ur money ..so how did you lose your money wen u didn't pay to any body? Let's learn to say the truth pls.

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Re: SEC Warns Nigerians Of The Dangers Of MMM, Calls It Fraud by hotmolo(m): 10:04am On Sep 01, 2016
mckoolcharming:



If only they will admit that banks are ponzi scheme, then I will agree that MMM is a ponzi scheme.

1. MMM is not an Investment program. We are helping ourselves to be financially free. The government has failed us and we have decided to help ourselves

2. MMM does not collect our money. We pay directly to other people's account.

3. MMM is not a company, as such, there is no point registering with SEC.

4. Is there any law in this country forbidding us to help our brother? If there is, then you can shut us down

5. If the government begins to gives us 24hours electricity, pay a minimum wage of NGN200,000 per month, employs everyone that is unemployed, then we can consider leaving MMM
guy u get sense wella. govt wont help and wont allow us help each other
Re: SEC Warns Nigerians Of The Dangers Of MMM, Calls It Fraud by Laveda(f): 10:04am On Sep 01, 2016
JeffreyJamez:


I dont even understand fa!
grin

You no go rest ba? Like they'll listen. undecided
Re: SEC Warns Nigerians Of The Dangers Of MMM, Calls It Fraud by OVERCONFIDENCE(m): 10:06am On Sep 01, 2016
Yes MMM is fraud
Yes MMM is a ponzi scheme.
Yes the founder of MMM is wanted.
Yes MMM will soon collapse.
Yes MMM is unrealistic.
Yes MMM participants are lazy people.
Yes MMM participants are gullible.
Yes Nigerians don't learn from history.
But,
Yes MMM is a system of financial freedom.
Yes MMM pays 30% of your spare money.
Yes MMM pays back your spare money within 3 Months.
Yes MMM allows you to earn free money with free money after 3 months.
Yes MMM gives you peace of mind $ confidence to reprovide help and get help for the next 50 years comfortably.
Yes MMM pays the bills conveniently.
Yes MMM will last long for the next 50 years.
I use this medium to advise every participant old and new, not to be greedy, set a target for yourself, for instance, you start up with a spare money of N100,000 in September, it's obvious that at the end of November,you must have recouped your money. It's very wise of you to still continue with your N100,000 Which is your profit over the last three months and get help continuously based on that for atleast three months before you increase your donation. With these idea MMM will last for ever because at this point there is no panic or pressure simply because you are now using free money to get free money. Let's all adopt this idea.
Thank you.

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Re: SEC Warns Nigerians Of The Dangers Of MMM, Calls It Fraud by JeffreyJamez(m): 10:07am On Sep 01, 2016
Laveda:

grin

You no go rest ba? Like they'll listen. undecided


I am doing what Jesus would do na.. grin grin...
Re: SEC Warns Nigerians Of The Dangers Of MMM, Calls It Fraud by ephi123(f): 10:07am On Sep 01, 2016
Guys, who remembers Nospetco?

NOSPETCO:Killer wonder bank: 25 Depositors die • 13,000 lose N22bn ...
www.9jabook.com/.../nospetco-killer-wonder-bank-25-depositors-die-13...
Killer wonder bank: 25 Depositors die • 13000 lose N22bn • Emir shields fraudster from police By ORI MARTINS Monday, October 31, 2011 ...

It is exactly the same scenario playing out again. It is very attractive but history will definitely repeat itself. Money cannot just come out of thin air 30% returns imagine, no explanation of what value is being created to generate that money. But I know some people will still not heed the warning.
Re: SEC Warns Nigerians Of The Dangers Of MMM, Calls It Fraud by aminho(m): 10:08am On Sep 01, 2016
Mboi2:

Lies!!! How did u loose the money, do u have up to N20k in ur entire life?
oga cuz you see me on nairaland does not mean am broke dont dare me to pay your school fees for the next one year.i had my First million naira in 1999
Re: SEC Warns Nigerians Of The Dangers Of MMM, Calls It Fraud by chessguru(m): 10:10am On Sep 01, 2016
tuniski:


Wake up it is a fraud! They collect other People's cash to pay those who are older with them, immediately new mugu are not joining they will collapse!
MMM does not have a central account and does not collect your money, so the issue of fraud is suspect...... The system may not last for ever but it will not be because they closed shop and run away with your cash because you do not pay money to them
Re: SEC Warns Nigerians Of The Dangers Of MMM, Calls It Fraud by JeffreyJamez(m): 10:10am On Sep 01, 2016
PaulIdu:


scamming is a psychological science targetted toward the greedy .. to achieve this you need a greed bait and that is why they add 30 percent to attract the greedy once ..why do they chose the greedy? Greed is like an addiction and those who have it will never pass any opportunity to reveal their greed

simple Psychology.
Re: SEC Warns Nigerians Of The Dangers Of MMM, Calls It Fraud by JeffreyJamez(m): 10:12am On Sep 01, 2016
chessguru:
MMM does not have a central account and does not collect your money, so the issue of fraud is suspect...... The system may not last for ever but it will not be because they closed shop and run away with your cash because you do not pay money to them

so you think they dont have access to your "account"? undecided
Re: SEC Warns Nigerians Of The Dangers Of MMM, Calls It Fraud by chessguru(m): 10:13am On Sep 01, 2016
ephi123:
Guys, who remembers Nospetco?

NOSPETCO:Killer wonder bank: 25 Depositors die • 13,000 lose N22bn ...
www.9jabook.com/.../nospetco-killer-wonder-bank-25-depositors-die-13...
Killer wonder bank: 25 Depositors die • 13000 lose N22bn • Emir shields fraudster from police By ORI MARTINS Monday, October 31, 2011 ...

It is exactly the same scenario playing out again. It is very attractive but history will definitely repeat itself. Money cannot just come out of thin air 30% returns imagine, no explanation of what value is being created to generate that money. But I know some people will still not heed the warning.
MMM is not a wonder bank, it is not a bank at all, you do not deposit money to MMM as they do not have an account, they simply link participants...... It's a crazy scheme that can crash if get help supercedes provide help but it is certainly different from all the wonder bank things.
Re: SEC Warns Nigerians Of The Dangers Of MMM, Calls It Fraud by Cnachy(m): 10:13am On Sep 01, 2016
Let them go and register first
Re: SEC Warns Nigerians Of The Dangers Of MMM, Calls It Fraud by ELITE12(m): 10:13am On Sep 01, 2016
>MMM IS NOT A PONZI SCHEME

>MMM IS A WORLD WIDE MOVEMENT TO DESTROY THE CORRUPT, EXPLOITATIVE AND POLITICALLY CONTROLLED FINANCIAL SYSTEM OF THE WORLD..

>MMM IS HERE TO GIVE POWER BACK TO THE PEOPLE AWAY FROM THE DECEPTION AND CHEATING OF GOVERNMENT

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Re: SEC Warns Nigerians Of The Dangers Of MMM, Calls It Fraud by ephi123(f): 10:14am On Sep 01, 2016
Nnaabros:
Damn! The way proponents of this scheme are ready to defend it even with their lives is very surprising. They defend it so much that they are even ready to sacrifice their lives for it. See the fury, anger and frenzy with which they crush anything or anyone that speaks negatively about MMM. THE LURE OF EASY MONEY IS THE STRONGEST TRAP IN THE WORLD

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