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Re: How The Current MMM Will Likely End - As a Scam by tempest01(m): 7:33am On Sep 02, 2016 |
IghoCentric: Good for you the early bird. Advice to you is not to fall for the temptation of buying more money and getting rich quick. And if the account you are to pay the money into looks suspicious, then don't. |
Re: How The Current MMM Will Likely End - As a Scam by ngoben(f): 7:33am On Sep 02, 2016 |
WHIZKIDEFE:...u tink say exportation no be risk...ma darl ma bro is into it...if I start to dey gist u wetin him dey c ...am sure u wnt try to export talk more of to cont...ma point it dis everyfin na risk...hv talked with pple into mmm...dey dnt care ....dey r willing to talke more risks...n daz what makes u a MAN....do u do naira abi naija bet?....dat 1 no be scam baa...let's stop being sentimental...no jobs,,,no moni in circulation,,,dollar 425(on tuesday)nt sure of today..am an sure its heading to 500...pls leave mata for mattias...na pple wey no get dime for d system dey cry pass 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How The Current MMM Will Likely End - As a Scam by IghoCentric(m): 7:33am On Sep 02, 2016 |
ijeshaboy:Shoot on ur phone.. Stating ur name and location how much u phef and ghed.. Then say thank mmm... That's what I did.. Then upload to YouTube, copy the link and paste it on ur letter of happiness.. Under where u write ur letter u will see the link for video the... My broad once u do this na 5% of ur gh amt be that.. Fuel money free like that. U can do all on ur phone.. Use ur gmail account to sign into YouTube. 4 Likes |
Re: How The Current MMM Will Likely End - As a Scam by chidekings(m): 7:34am On Sep 02, 2016 |
Re: How The Current MMM Will Likely End - As a Scam by Chyjoval(m): 7:34am On Sep 02, 2016 |
MMM has over 10 safety nets which will never make it crash. And you Never notice But I will mention 10 out of them. *1, Pause mode* *2, 14 days defrost* *3, Extension of the getting help hours* *4, Seeking help from neighboring country* *5, No central account attached* *7, Peer to peer system* *8, Guider's efforts* *9 PH match hours extension* *10, Website upgrades and security* *1, Pause mode* This process is applied when the numbers of the people getting help is greater than the people help. The system will pause the GH transactions and allow more PH to come into the system for the duration of 2 and half months, then the system will now restart. PH means provide help and the GH means get help *2, 14 days defrost* The participants will not be able to withdraw their money until after 14 days when the payments have been confirmed. During this process, more PH would have come into the system therefore there would be pool of cash to pay the old participants. *3, Extension of GH hours* this occur when there is a public holidays when the banks are not working therefore, there won't be transaction and it may cause the problem to the system. The system will now extend the hours of the people who are getting help at that period to allow more People providing help into the system. *4, Help seeking from neighboring country* When there are more GH than PH in a country, MMM will look into the other countries which are doing well and match them together, pending the time that the affected country will be OK. *6, No central account attached* MMM does not have a certain account that we are sending to. MMM doesn't collect your money. *7, Peer to peer system* Participants pay directly to the bank account of the other participants seeking help *8, Guider's efforts* Guiders are the heartbeat of MMM, guiders make sure each and everyone in MMM understand the Ideology of MMM and how it works *9, PH match hours extension* When the system finds out that there are more GH than PH, the system will extend the hour of old PH so that to hold down their order matches duration and during this period, the system will allow more new PH to come into the system to get it balanced. *10, Website upgrades and security* MMM spends million of dollars in taking care of their website to cub online fraud in MMM, such as scam and other Threats. 14 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: How The Current MMM Will Likely End - As a Scam by tundeotunba(m): 7:35am On Sep 02, 2016 |
Well said Tempest01 1 Like |
Re: How The Current MMM Will Likely End - As a Scam by Ranchhoddas: 7:35am On Sep 02, 2016 |
davids202:When a mumu is talking you can always tell. |
Re: How The Current MMM Will Likely End - As a Scam by Nobody: 7:38am On Sep 02, 2016 |
aminho:Baba. How can you be losing money in a scheme that is yet to be saturated? Thousands of people are joining on daily basis contributing to a pool of fund worth millions that can be used to Provide help of a 500,000 to 1000 persons. |
Re: How The Current MMM Will Likely End - As a Scam by tempest01(m): 7:38am On Sep 02, 2016 |
selective: I'm not supporting SECS statement here or refuting it. What I'm saying is that one day they will close down. I am predicting their modus operandi before closing on how they will get your funds. Try as much as possible not to be among those that "provide help" before they close down. 1 Like |
Re: How The Current MMM Will Likely End - As a Scam by peedeeasobie(m): 7:39am On Sep 02, 2016 |
aminho: When and how? With MMM? |
Re: How The Current MMM Will Likely End - As a Scam by Babtossdan(m): 7:40am On Sep 02, 2016 |
If it closes today, have realised more than I expected live goes on but until then I'd keep pumping and receiving. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How The Current MMM Will Likely End - As a Scam by niggi4life(m): 7:41am On Sep 02, 2016 |
They were warned in 2007 about penny wise, wealth solutions and their different names. They Never listened 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: How The Current MMM Will Likely End - As a Scam by millionboi(m): 7:41am On Sep 02, 2016 |
tempest01:lol.....this shows DAT u know nothing abt mmm 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How The Current MMM Will Likely End - As a Scam by loswhite(m): 7:42am On Sep 02, 2016 |
H NPComplete:we are all well aware of the risk so I don't understand ppls concern. The truth is we voluntarily take the risk if it closes no problem after all we are well aware. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How The Current MMM Will Likely End - As a Scam by feldido(m): 7:43am On Sep 02, 2016 |
Keep calling it scam while I receive alerts all the time... 6 Likes 1 Share
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Re: How The Current MMM Will Likely End - As a Scam by globalresource: 7:44am On Sep 02, 2016 |
Some cowards here who can't take risk are here to discourage people. You warned the first time and keep warning again. Why taking medicine for another person's headache.... We are cool with the risk. Take your sorry state to another place. SEC is in charge of stock exchange. Ask them what happens to our shares that nosedive under their watch. But they didn't call it Scam Every investment is a risk. We know. We do MMM with our spare money. Some will be typing rubbish here and their state will not change. They will watch their neighbors life changing for good through MMM. What SEC and banks could not do in years. MMM has done in few months. Thanks for your warning or jealousy... I'm still looking out for another anti MMM article tomorrow from jobless and no risk cowards tomorrow. This is sure a media campaign against MMM. But guess what. Nothing will stop us from providing help and making a fellow citizen happy. This is a good cause which I'm happy to be part of... MJ 10 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How The Current MMM Will Likely End - As a Scam by vocalprince(m): 7:44am On Sep 02, 2016 |
Some go run mad pull their pants on the road like this.
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Re: How The Current MMM Will Likely End - As a Scam by mightyokwy(m): 7:44am On Sep 02, 2016 |
Chai, how I wish Emeka is here to read this by himself. This guy will not allow me rest because of this big time scam. I was once a victim nd would never fall a victim again. 1 Like |
Re: How The Current MMM Will Likely End - As a Scam by loswhite(m): 7:45am On Sep 02, 2016 |
aminho:you lost 500k @ mmm...lol that's a lie. If u have a problem getting help get info on hw to go abt it 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: How The Current MMM Will Likely End - As a Scam by KingsleyTMTTM(m): 7:46am On Sep 02, 2016 |
aminho:lie-lie boy 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: How The Current MMM Will Likely End - As a Scam by tempest01(m): 7:46am On Sep 02, 2016 |
millionboi: This shows you will most likely be among those scammed. |
Re: How The Current MMM Will Likely End - As a Scam by adeabi: 7:47am On Sep 02, 2016 |
MMM Global only gave South Africans the bad news with a post on its website saying “We regret to inform you that we have to close down the Republic of Bitcoin. It was an experiment, and, unfortunately, it failed. We turned out not to be able to pay 100% per month.” Less than three months after the company collapsed in South Africa, MMM Global, a Russian Ponzi Scheme company has opened shop in Nigeria with the domain name- nigeria- mmm .net MMM was established in 1989 by Sergei Mavrodi, his brother Vyacheslav Mavrodi, and Olga Melnikova. The name of the company was taken from the first letters of the three founders’ surnames. Initially, the company imported computers and office equipment. In January 1992, tax police accused MMM of tax evasion, leading to the collapse of MMM-bank, and causing the company to have difficulty obtaining financing to support its operations. Faced with difficulties in funding its foreign trade, the company switched to the financial sector. It offered American stocks to Russian investors, but met with little success. Later, MMM-Invest was created for the purpose of collecting vouchers during privatisation. This effort was similarly unsuccessful. MMM created its successful Ponzi scheme in 1994. The company started attracting money from private investors, promising annual returns of up to one thousand percent. It is unclear whether a Ponzi scheme was Mavrodi’s initial intention, inasmuch as such extravagant returns might have been possible during the Russian hyperinflation in such commerce as import-export. MMM grew rapidly. In February 1994, the company reported dividends of 1,000%, and started an aggressive TV ad campaign. Since the shares were not quoted on any stock exchange and the company itself determined the share price, it maintained a steady price growth of thousands of percent annually, leading the public to believe its shares were a safe and profitable investment. An important factor in the scheme’s success was word of mouth, but most of the company’s success came from its extremely aggressive ad campaign, which appealed to the general public by using “ordinary” characters that viewers could identify with. The most famous of them, a “folk hero” of early 1994, was Lyonya Golubkov. Another notable marketing effort was a giveaway of free Metro trips to all Moscow citizens on a particular day. MMM also was one of the first well-known companies in Russia with a logotype and slogans (“Flying from shadow to the light” and others). At its peak the company was taking in more than 100 billion rubles (about 50 million USD) each day from the sale of its shares to the public. Thus, the cashflow turnover at the MMM central office in Moscow was so high that it could not be estimated. The management started to count money in roomfuls (1 roomful of money, 2 roomfuls of money, etc.). Regular publication in the media of the rising MMM share price led President Boris Yeltsin to issue a decree in June 1994 prohibiting financial institutions from publicising their expected income. The success of MMM in attracting investors led to the creation of other similar companies, including Tibet, Chara, Khoper-Invest, Selenga, Telemarket, and Germes. All of these companies were characterised by aggressive television advertising and extremely high promised rates of return. One company promised annual returns of 30,000%. On July 22, 1994, the police closed the offices of MMM for tax evasion. For a few days the company attempted to continue the scheme, but soon ceased operations. At that point, Invest-Consulting, one of the company’s subsidiaries, owed more than 50 billion rubles in taxes (USD 26 million), and MMM itself owed between 100 billion and 3 trillion rubles to the investors (from USD 50 million to USD 1.5 billion). In the aftermath at least 50 investors, having lost all of their money, committed suicide. Several organisations of “deceived investors” made efforts to recover their lost investments, but Sergei Mavrodi manipulated their indignation and directed it at the government. In August 1994 Mavrodi was arrested for tax evasion. However, he was soon elected to the Russian State Duma, with the support of the “deceived investors”. He argued that the government, not MMM, was responsible for people losing their money, and promised to initiate a pay-back program. The amount ultimately paid back was minuscule compared to the amount owed. In October 1995, the Duma cancelled Mavrodi’s right to immunity as a deputy. In 1996, he tried to run for Russia’s presidency, but most of the signatures he received were rejected. MMM declared bankruptcy on September 22, 1997. While it was believed that Sergei Mavrodi left Russia and moved to the United States, it is possible that he stayed in Moscow, using his money to change apartments regularly and employ a group of former special agents. With the help of a distant relative he started Stock Generation Ltd., another pyramid scheme based around trading non-existent companies’ stocks in a form of the “stock exchange game” on the company’s site, stockgeneration.com. Despite a bold-letter warning on the main page that the site was not a real stock exchange, between 20,000 and 275,000 people, according to various estimates, fell for the promised 200% returns and lost their money. According to U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, losses of victims were at least USD 5.5 million. Mavrodi was found and arrested in 2003. While in custody, Mavrodi was given until January 31, 2006 to read the documents in his fraud case against him (The criminal case consisted of 650 volumes, each 250-270 pages long). At the end of April 2007, Mavrodi was convicted of fraud, and given a sentence of four and a half years. Since he had already spent over four years in custody, he was released less than a month later, on May 22, 2007. He later went on to creating yet another pyramid scheme called MMM-2011. The MMM scandal led to increased regulation of the Russian stock market, but the legacy of the fraud led many to become extremely suspicious of any joint stock companies. In 2015 MMM began operating in South Africa with the same business model as MMM-2011, claiming a “30% per month” return through a “social financial network”. The group was identified as a possible pyramid scheme by the National Consumer Commission and accounts of clients were later frozen by Capitec Bank. In response to mounting criticism and official investigations by state authorities in 2016 supporters of the South African MMM scheme staged a protest march in Johannesburg. In 2016, MMM launched a website targeting the Nigerian audience. Many Nigerians who are not conversant with the fact that the company is a fraudulent establishment that defrauded more than 40 million people of at least USD10 billion before being shutdown and declaring bankruptcy in Russia. As reported by Fin24, MMM Global in its usual manner operated a platform where its members are encouraged to donate money to others by rewarding them with the bitcoin-linked virtual currency – Mavros – in return, and can apparently get 30% return on their rand investment by doing so. However, it is a known knowledge that a scheme is a Ponzi scheme when expected return is 20% higher than the repo rate. To the amazement of any reasonable person, many South Africans still fall prey despite the fact that the repo rate in SA is 7%. MMM Global only gave South Africans the bad news with a post on its website saying “We regret to inform you that we have to close down the Republic of Bitcoin. It was an experiment, and, unfortunately, it failed. We turned out not to be able to pay 100% per month.” How can a company that has been defrauding people since 1989 claim its scheme is an experiment in 2016? I met a former colleague who has fallen prey to the fraud. He was reveling in the phantom promise that his NGN100,000 will yield him additional 30% in return. I immediately alerted him that he has fallen for a Ponzi Scheme and that everything will soon blow up in his face. To further delude their victims, MMM Global has been using propaganda and lies. My colleague narrated the origin of the company to me. Even a smart person will get carried away. The height of the idiocy was when he told me that MMM was closed down in Russia because the company became richer than the Russian government and all the banks put together. A day before it collapsed in South Africa, BehindMLM, a website that reports news on Ponzi Schemes and Multi-level Marketing, MLM warned the public saying: “The financial apocalypse is upon us, MMM Global has collapsed,” “MMM Global’s Ponzi clones offering a lower percentage haven’t ‘proved’ themselves any more than MMM Global did,” “MMM Global cannot sustain paying out more than is invested. And as long as affiliate investment is the only source of revenue entering the scheme, any MMM Global scheme will ultimately collapse. “They’ll continue to pay ROIs (return on investments) until withdrawals exceed the rate of new investment, and then run out of money all the same. One only needs to look at the collapse of MMM China for evidence of what’s to come”. “Unfortunately for most MMM Global investors, the collapse is the end of the line. Those unlucky enough to live in countries where MMM Global runs secondary scams (like South Africa), were informed their accounts would be transferred over.” However, I am not surprised that Nigerians will fall prey to MMM Global. Ponzi Schemes are recurring decimals in the social history of Nigeria. From fraudulent investment clubs, to wealth solutions and other MLMs across the country. In the midst of the banking boom, many Nigerian lost billions of Naira (NGN) to Ponzi Schemes who promised millions of the population superfluous interest rates close to 150% within 30 days. A writer once accused many Nigerians of ‘momentary amnesia’, but in the midst of an economic crises, record inflation and ‘technical recession’, the lack of access to information by victims of such schemes seals their fate. 1 Like |
Re: How The Current MMM Will Likely End - As a Scam by adesola220: 7:48am On Sep 02, 2016 |
Haykings100:mmmm |
Re: How The Current MMM Will Likely End - As a Scam by millionboi(m): 7:48am On Sep 02, 2016 |
aminho:pls are u serious?.....who is ur guilder? 1 Like |
Re: How The Current MMM Will Likely End - As a Scam by globalresource: 7:49am On Sep 02, 2016 |
aminho: Bro, that is a big fat lie. That can never happen. You are a scam. Why doing this to yourself all in the name to discourage people. Am sure u have never registered let alone providing help....if u a real sure about this... DM me and I will take your matter up |
Re: How The Current MMM Will Likely End - As a Scam by tayooluwole: 7:50am On Sep 02, 2016 |
IghoCentric: Can you pls help me with the direct link that lead to log-in page on the site... I have registered and I am having problem of log-in. Thanks in advance |
Re: How The Current MMM Will Likely End - As a Scam by Nobody: 7:50am On Sep 02, 2016 |
The idea is genius. It may fail or succeed though. More on the failing side as the founder is an ex-con but hey! You never know. I am particularly concerned about how a third party scam can easily be carried out on it 1 Like |
Re: How The Current MMM Will Likely End - As a Scam by tempest01(m): 7:51am On Sep 02, 2016 |
globalresource: this has nothing to do with SEC...i'm not telling you not to invest in MMM, im telling you to be wary. Im informing you on how you can be scammed on the long run. They only strike when you are very comfortable with risking your money. Don't let greed come into play. 1 Like |
Re: How The Current MMM Will Likely End - As a Scam by joe4real12: 7:51am On Sep 02, 2016 |
olatop:Be wise! |
Re: How The Current MMM Will Likely End - As a Scam by pivotal89(m): 7:51am On Sep 02, 2016 |
fake story |
Re: How The Current MMM Will Likely End - As a Scam by millionboi(m): 7:51am On Sep 02, 2016 |
Gasout:NEVA SAY NEVA Datz y bank is kick in against it |
Re: How The Current MMM Will Likely End - As a Scam by Ranchhoddas: 7:52am On Sep 02, 2016 |
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