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Re: Why Do Christians Hate Homosexuals If God Created Them That Way by Nobody: 11:32am On Sep 03, 2016
TheSixthSense:
No true christian hates anybody but many people - christians and non-christians - are instinctively uncomfortable with homosexuality. Safe to say that it is conventional, going by the majority, human behaviour to dislike homosexuality. But God is Love and rightly so is the message of Jesus Christ. But before Love there was the Law and in it were commandments. Where there is Law, there is always Judgement and Jesus Christ is the Judge (John 5:22, Acts 17:31) and God is Just (Col 3:35, Ecc 3:17). The Law is defined in the commandments and Jesus Christ came not to abolish the law but to fulfill it (Matt 5:17).

Now, God is Holy and Righteous and hates sin and sin is defined as lawlessness (1 John 3:4), ie. living in discordance with the law. Homosexuality is sin (Gen 19; Lev 18:22; 20:13; Rom 1:26-27) and the bible tells us that those who indulge in it will NOT inherit the kingdom of God (1 Cor 6:9). But does God hate homosexuals (sinners)? No, He doesn't. Here's what the bible says: “But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.”(Rom 5:cool and “Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.” (Is 1:18)

Christians love and follow Jesus Christ, but here's what Jesus says about that "He who has My commandments and keeps them, it is he who loves Me" (John 14:21) He goes on to say "If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him" (John 14:23) What this means is that believers of Jesus Christ have His Spirit in them and should express His Love towards people and dislikes towards sin.

So, do christians hate homosexuals? No. But out of love for their souls not to perish from the wrath of God in judgement. We pray and tell them to repent and turn to God.

Are they born that way? If yes, why did God create them?

The same applies for those born blind, deformed, dumb or lame. The answer is we don't know. I think the why's aren't so important, what is is how we make use of our life here on earth. We serve a God of miracles that is able change any situation. Besides, the christian life is about daily dying to the flesh from its lusts and passions (Gal 5:24; Matt 16:24) and it can only be done by the Spirit of God in believers.
So your answer is you don't know why God created homosexuals, but also declared homosexuality a sin, was he trying to make them suffer?
The problem with the bible is that people think it was inspires by an Almighty omniscient God, hence they try to explain the logic of things written in the bible. like when God command his people to Stone to death children that curse their parents, and when he ordered genocides and rape, promoted owning of slaves and sexism.But when you realize that there is no God and that the bible was written by archaic barbaric men thousands of years ago, everything above falls into place.
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Re: Why Do Christians Hate Homosexuals If God Created Them That Way by hopefulLandlord: 11:33am On Sep 03, 2016


So, do christians hate homosexuals? No. But out of love for their souls not to perish from the wrath of God in judgement. We pray and tell them to repent and turn to God.

Are they born that way? If yes, why did God create them?

The same applies for those born blind, deformed, dumb or lame. The answer is we don't know. I think the why's aren't so important, what is is how we make use of our life here on earth.

Bros, that "why" is the important question here

So, god created them homosexual? That's what you've implied here but that same god doesn't want them to carry out acts that are brought about by something he created them with? And to top it all off, he'll send them to hell for carrying out such acts?

As for "blind deformed deaf"; I've never seen where its written in the bible that they're going to hell for being blind deformed or deaf, if there's any, kindly point them to me

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Re: Why Do Christians Hate Homosexuals If God Created Them That Way by hopefulLandlord: 11:35am On Sep 03, 2016
ijay18:
Lenny!its simple,God never created them that way...have u ever heard of the devil,the founder of sin! Yeah he also works too.

I guess that same "devil" created other animals that have been caught engaging in homosexual acts
Re: Why Do Christians Hate Homosexuals If God Created Them That Way by aminusanti(m): 11:36am On Sep 03, 2016
No one born to be homosexual, the first people committed this crime were Lot's people and they were destroyed

If homosexuality is a natural thing, GOD wouldn't punish them such punishment:

The purpose of life is to worship GOD and work our way to Paradise, which He created us for. But Paradise is not cheap - however the harder the struggle the more beautiful the rewards. GOD has given each of us something to struggle with, and in His Mercy He chose that struggle that we were most capable of. No matter how hard it might be, remember that "GOD does not burden a soul with more than it can bear".

Everyone's struggle is unique. It could be in the form of kleptomania, physical or mental handicaps, obsessive compulsive disorder, being born in an extremely impoverished environment, being trapped in a war-stricken place like in Palestine or Myanmar or Afghanistan with your parents and siblings wounded and raped in front of your eyes and bombs exploding around you at all times, or being homosexual, or being straight but never getting a chance to marry the person you love, or being straight but just so obsessed with lust and desire that controlling oneself from adultery feels impossible, or straight but so physically handicapped that one can never have a relationship with anyone anyway. Everyone in all of these situations could ask "If I am bound to sin or be miserable in this situation, why did GOD put me in it in the first place?" but the reality is that we can deal with it, and this is our test. GOD alone knows that He chose this test for us over others, because maybe we wouldn't be able to deal with other tests. For example, one of the reasons GOD makes some people born in poverty is because He knows that had He given them riches, they may have abused their wealth. Or maybe He wanted to put them in that situation to develop the skills or patience to deal with other important things that they will be facing in life. The purpose of life is to see the beauty in everything despite all the odds, i.e. to worship GOD and attain Heaven.
Re: Why Do Christians Hate Homosexuals If God Created Them That Way by Nobody: 11:41am On Sep 03, 2016
ijay18:
Lenny!its simple,God never created them that way...have u ever heard of the devil,the founder of sin! Yeah he also works too.
So the devil superseded God's creation is he's on equal standing with God?
Re: Why Do Christians Hate Homosexuals If God Created Them That Way by danielblessing(m): 11:46am On Sep 03, 2016
hopefulLandlord:

I guess those other animals seen engaging in homosexuality "became that" too?
Animals will behave just like animals.
Re: Why Do Christians Hate Homosexuals If God Created Them That Way by Nobody: 11:48am On Sep 03, 2016
aminusanti:
No one born to be homosexual, the first people committed this crime were Lot's people and they were destroyed

If homosexuality is a natural thing, GOD wouldn't punish them such punishment:

The purpose of life is to worship GOD and work our way to Paradise, which He created us for. But Paradise is not cheap - however the harder the struggle the more beautiful the rewards. GOD has given each of us something to struggle with, and in His Mercy He chose that struggle that we were most capable of. No matter how hard it might be, remember that "GOD does not burden a soul with more than it can bear".

Everyone's struggle is unique. It could be in the form of kleptomania, physical or mental handicaps, obsessive compulsive disorder, being born in an extremely impoverished environment, being trapped in a war-stricken place like in Palestine or Myanmar or Afghanistan with your parents and siblings wounded and raped in front of your eyes and bombs exploding around you at all times, or being homosexual, or being straight but never getting a chance to marry the person you love, or being straight but just so obsessed with lust and desire that controlling oneself from adultery feels impossible, or straight but so physically handicapped that one can never have a relationship with anyone anyway. Everyone in all of these situations could ask "If I am bound to sin or be miserable in this situation, why did GOD put me in it in the first place?" but the reality is that we can deal with it, and this is our test. GOD alone knows that He chose this test for us over others, because maybe we wouldn't be able to deal with other tests. For example, one of the reasons GOD makes some people born in poverty is because He knows that had He given them riches, they may have abused their wealth. Or maybe He wanted to put them in that situation to develop the skills or patience to deal with other important things that they will be facing in life. The purpose of life is to see the beauty in everything despite all the odds, i.e. to worship GOD and attain Heaven.


So your answer is that it's a test they need to overcome, and God gave them this test because he knows they'll overcome it. But some are not overcoming it, people born blind on the streets haven't overcomed it, there are people who lived and died in stark poverty they did not overcome it, children die in war torn places and didn't even get a chance to overcome this test set forth by their loving creator. please break the illusion thatbis religion www.godisimaginary.com
Re: Why Do Christians Hate Homosexuals If God Created Them That Way by Nobody: 1:07pm On Sep 03, 2016
Lennycool:
One of Jesus's core message is love, but most of the Christians I've encountered are the most homophobic ones, The question is if God created homosexual's and even made all mankind in his own image why do the religious hate homosexuals. Homosexuality is not a choice as research will tell you, its inborn just like being heterosexual. So did God make a mistake?

Well, God never created them like that. He had already finished His creation work as the Bible states that He rested. He created Adam and Eve but just gave them the ability to multiply. Over the years scientific and genetical factor crept in and that resulted to mutation and change in genetic instructions.

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Re: Why Do Christians Hate Homosexuals If God Created Them That Way by Nobody: 1:29pm On Sep 03, 2016
lordnicklaus:


Well, God never created them like that. He had already finished His creation work as the Bible states that He rested. He created Adam and Eve but just gave them the ability to multiply. Over the years scientific and genetical factor crept in and that resulted to mutation and change in genetic instructions.
Atleast someone is attempting to use logic, you're are saying God never created anyone after Adam and eve, now let us examine that, so just two humans are responsible for what we see today have you ever asked your self with whom their children would reproduce with, haven't thought about that now have you, it would be each other, yes incest, so God says homosexuality is a sin but not incest. Your foundation was shaky from the start (as most of the thongs in the bible are), as genetics will tell you all of humanity cannot be traced back to two humans, it is simply impossible for that to account for all the diversity in the human gene today.
Re: Why Do Christians Hate Homosexuals If God Created Them That Way by Nobody: 1:45pm On Sep 03, 2016
Lennycool:

Atleast someone is attempting to use logic, you're are saying God never created anyone after Adam and eve, now let us examine that, so just two humans are responsible for what we see today have you ever asked your self with whom their children would reproduce with, haven't thought about that now have you, it would be each other, yes incest, so God says homosexuality is a sin but not incest. Your foundation was shaky from the start (as most of the thongs in the bible are), as genetics will tell you all of humanity cannot be traced back to two humans, it is simply impossible for that to account for all the diversity in the human gene today.

True, the diversity of races today makes it quite impossible to have been originated from a duet. The only explanation I have is that the writers of the Bible were silent on some issues. Or it is possible that Adam and Eve had simple DNA and as they multiplied, it became far complex and that accounts for the junk code in the DNA. Ps: God only made laws against people who practiced "intentional homosexuality".
Re: Why Do Christians Hate Homosexuals If God Created Them That Way by Nobody: 1:57pm On Sep 03, 2016
lordnicklaus:


True, the diversity of races today makes it quite impossible to have been originated from a duet. The only explanation I have is that the writers of the Bible were silent on some issues. Or it is possible that Adam and Eve had simple DNA and as they multiplied, it became far complex and that accounts for the junk code in the DNA. Ps: God only made laws against people who practiced "intentional homosexuality".
Christians and the bible don't differentiate between unintentionally and intentional, and don't you see how your trying to bend logic to suit your argument. Simpler DNA wouldn't make them the humans we see today, except you're proposing macro evolution, ape like ancestors which most theist reject, also even if there DNA were simpler it still wouldn't account for the diversity present today, you seem smart, atleast you try to present logic, I hope one day you see the truth about religion. I was once like you, this website helped me break the bond of religion, even if you think it won't convince you atleast test your faith.
www.godisimaginary.com
Re: Why Do Christians Hate Homosexuals If God Created Them That Way by alolatee(m): 2:11pm On Sep 03, 2016
TheSixthSense:
No true christian hates anybody but many people - christians and non-christians - are instinctively uncomfortable with homosexuality. Safe to say that it is conventional, going by the majority, human behaviour to dislike homosexuality. But God is Love and rightly so is the message of Jesus Christ. But before Love there was the Law and in it were commandments. Where there is Law, there is always Judgement and Jesus Christ is the Judge (John 5:22, Acts 17:31) and God is Just (Col 3:35, Ecc 3:17). The Law is defined in the commandments and Jesus Christ came not to abolish the law but to fulfill it (Matt 5:17).

Now, God is Holy and Righteous and hates sin and sin is defined as lawlessness (1 John 3:4), ie. living in discordance with the law. Homosexuality is sin (Gen 19; Lev 18:22; 20:13; Rom 1:26-27) and the bible tells us that those who indulge in it will NOT inherit the kingdom of God (1 Cor 6:9). But does God hate homosexuals (sinners)? No, He doesn't. Here's what the bible says: “But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.”(Rom 5:cool and “Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.” (Is 1:18)

Christians love and follow Jesus Christ, but here's what Jesus says about that "He who has My commandments and keeps them, it is he who loves Me" (John 14:21) He goes on to say "If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him" (John 14:23) What this means is that believers of Jesus Christ have His Spirit in them and should express His Love towards people and dislikes towards sin.

So, do christians hate homosexuals? No. But out of love for their souls not to perish from the wrath of God in judgement. We pray and tell them to repent and turn to God.

Are they born that way? If yes, why did God create them?

The same applies for those born blind, deformed, dumb or lame. The answer is we don't know. I think the why's aren't so important, what is is how we make use of our life here on earth. We serve a God of miracles that is able change any situation. Besides, the christian life is about daily dying to the flesh from its lusts and passions (Gal 5:24; Matt 16:24) and it can only be done by the Spirit of God in believers.

just to butress your point, God hates the sin and including homosexuality but loves the sinner...infact in the earthly ministry of Christ, Jesus was called the friend of sinners by the Pharisees because he ate with them and went into their homes.But Christ hates sin and preaches against it.He however will not point sin at people but points God to them.

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Re: Why Do Christians Hate Homosexuals If God Created Them That Way by Nobody: 2:20pm On Sep 03, 2016
alolatee:


just to butress your point, God hates the sin and including homosexuality but loves the sinner...infact in the earthly ministry of Christ, Jesus was called the friend of sinners by the Pharisees because he ate with them and went into their homes.But Christ hates sin and preaches against it.He however will not point sin at people but points God to them.
God sees nothing wrong with incest but condemns homosexuality, why do Christians and most of society today see this as wrong even though God never condemned it.
Reason: homosexuality was socially acceptable in some cultures thousands of years ago and so the real authors of the bible(who were just ancient uncivilized men) so nothing wrong with it. Same reason the bible never condemned slavery and misogyny.
Re: Why Do Christians Hate Homosexuals If God Created Them That Way by mustymatic(m): 2:55pm On Sep 03, 2016
hopefulLandlord:


Do you know many animals have been seen engaging in homosexual acts?

I guess from your post that those animals ancestry caused it too
lol... animals sleep with their mothers too.. I guess it's ok grin
hopefulLandlord:


Do you know many animals have been seen engaging in homosexual acts?

I guess from your post that those animals ancestry caused it too
lol... animals sleep with their mothers too.. I guess it's ok
Re: Why Do Christians Hate Homosexuals If God Created Them That Way by akindlesfarm: 2:59pm On Sep 03, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


There is no scientific evidence whatsoever that homosexuals are born that way . Please stop reading crappy atheist websites

Christianity you gullible guys are following is just a mere white man's religion guy wake up from your sleep. Homosexuality is as OK as heterosexuality it has been in our culture and most culture all over the world before the white men brought there delusional religion to enslave us. Early Christians where even mostly gnostics.
Re: Why Do Christians Hate Homosexuals If God Created Them That Way by aminusanti(m): 2:59pm On Sep 03, 2016
Lennycool:

So your answer is that it's a test they need to overcome, and God gave them this test because he knows they'll overcome it. But some are not overcoming it, people born blind on the streets haven't overcomed it, there are people who lived and died in stark poverty they did not overcome it, children die in war torn places and didn't even get a chance to overcome this test set forth by their loving creator. please break the illusion thatbis religion www.godisimaginary.com

my explanation there was as clear as wine
if u read carefully you will surely see where i mentioned this temporary life is a test that will determine where we gonna be in d hereafter, whether you overcome the difficulty or die in it, what matters must is how you manage your DO n DONTs.
Re: Why Do Christians Hate Homosexuals If God Created Them That Way by Pidggin(f): 3:00pm On Sep 03, 2016
hopefulLandlord:


Is it natural or not?

NB: I'm not homosexual

Do you have some genes from your parents or not? Are some diseased hereditary or not? Are some character traits hereditary or not? Homosexuality is a trait that can flow from parent to child just like prostitution, arm robbery, etc can flow through bloodlines.

You may not know this but your kids are likely to take after you in some certain things.

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Re: Why Do Christians Hate Homosexuals If God Created Them That Way by EyeHateGod: 3:01pm On Sep 03, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


There is no scientific evidence whatsoever that homosexuals are born that way . Please stop reading crappy atheist websites
Ignorance should I be surprised?
Re: Why Do Christians Hate Homosexuals If God Created Them That Way by Pidggin(f): 3:02pm On Sep 03, 2016
hopefulLandlord:


I guess that same "devil" created other animals that have been caught engaging in homosexual acts


Demons can also live in animals
Re: Why Do Christians Hate Homosexuals If God Created Them That Way by EyeHateGod: 3:03pm On Sep 03, 2016
KingEbukasBlog:


Animals eat their young ones during famine . Do you think they know what they are doing ? As a human if you kill your young one you will you end in jail .

Some animals also eat their droppings and mate with their parents and siblings , what do you think causes that ? Don't you think humans should consider that too ?
Humans are animals! ignorance should I be surprised?
Re: Why Do Christians Hate Homosexuals If God Created Them That Way by EyeHateGod: 3:05pm On Sep 03, 2016
TheSixthSense:
No true christian hates anybody but many people - christians and non-christians - are instinctively uncomfortable with homosexuality. Safe to say that it is conventional, going by the majority, human behaviour to dislike homosexuality. But God is Love and rightly so is the message of Jesus Christ. But before Love there was the Law and in it were commandments. Where there is Law, there is always Judgement and Jesus Christ is the Judge (John 5:22, Acts 17:31) and God is Just (Col 3:35, Ecc 3:17). The Law is defined in the commandments and Jesus Christ came not to abolish the law but to fulfill it (Matt 5:17).

Now, God is Holy and Righteous and hates sin and sin is defined as lawlessness (1 John 3:4), ie. living in discordance with the law. Homosexuality is sin (Gen 19; Lev 18:22; 20:13; Rom 1:26-27) and the bible tells us that those who indulge in it will NOT inherit the kingdom of God (1 Cor 6:9). But does God hate homosexuals (sinners)? No, He doesn't. Here's what the bible says: “But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.”(Rom 5:cool and “Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.” (Is 1:18)

Christians love and follow Jesus Christ, but here's what Jesus says about that "He who has My commandments and keeps them, it is he who loves Me" (John 14:21) He goes on to say "If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our home with him" (John 14:23) What this means is that believers of Jesus Christ have His Spirit in them and should express His Love towards people and dislikes towards sin.

So, do christians hate homosexuals? No. But out of love for their souls not to perish from the wrath of God in judgement. We pray and tell them to repent and turn to God.

Are they born that way? If yes, why did God create them?

The same applies for those born blind, deformed, dumb or lame. The answer is we don't know. I think the why's aren't so important, what is is how we make use of our life here on earth. We serve a God of miracles that is able change any situation. Besides, the christian life is about daily dying to the flesh from its lusts and passions (Gal 5:24; Matt 16:24) and it can only be done by the Spirit of God in believers.
Look at the liar and hypocrite that said he was an Atheist B4 Quoting Bible But should I be surprised?
Re: Why Do Christians Hate Homosexuals If God Created Them That Way by EyeHateGod: 3:05pm On Sep 03, 2016
ijay18:
Lenny!its simple,God never created them that way...have u ever heard of the devil,the founder of sin! Yeah he also works too.
so basically the devil is Stronger than God?
Re: Why Do Christians Hate Homosexuals If God Created Them That Way by Nobody: 3:08pm On Sep 03, 2016
I'm going to reiterate this since most of the theist on this site keep skipping it.
God sees nothing wrong with incest but condemns homosexuality, why do Christians and most of society today see this as wrong even though God never condemned it.
Reason: homosexuality was socially acceptable in some cultures thousands of years ago and so the real authors of the bible(who were just ancient uncivilized men) so nothing wrong with it. Same reason the bible never condemned slavery and misogyny.

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Re: Why Do Christians Hate Homosexuals If God Created Them That Way by EyeHateGod: 3:10pm On Sep 03, 2016
Pidggin:



Demons can also live in animals
Because Ur pastor said so
Re: Why Do Christians Hate Homosexuals If God Created Them That Way by Pidggin(f): 4:24pm On Sep 03, 2016
EyeHateGod:

Because Ur pastor said so

There was a large herd of Pigs near by feeding on the hillside. So the demons begged Jesus to let them go into the Pigs and He let them (Luke 8:32)
Re: Why Do Christians Hate Homosexuals If God Created Them That Way by Pidggin(f): 4:26pm On Sep 03, 2016
EyeHateGod:

Look at the liar and hypocrite that said he was an Atheist B4 Quoting Bible But should I be surprised?

Why are you working for the devil, what is he giving you apart from freedom to pervert sex?
Re: Why Do Christians Hate Homosexuals If God Created Them That Way by Nobody: 4:57pm On Sep 03, 2016
Pidggin:


Why are you working for the devil, what is he giving you apart from freedom to pervert sex?
the devil doesn't exist and neither does God
Re: Why Do Christians Hate Homosexuals If God Created Them That Way by Jozzy4: 4:59pm On Sep 03, 2016
I don't hate homosexuals , I only hate the act of homosexuality. not the individual.

" if possible, as far as it depends on you, be peaceable with all men " Romans 12:18
Re: Why Do Christians Hate Homosexuals If God Created Them That Way by Nobody: 5:18pm On Sep 03, 2016
that doesn't answer the question I put forth, besides God created homosexuals.
Re: Why Do Christians Hate Homosexuals If God Created Them That Way by EyeHateGod: 5:24pm On Sep 03, 2016
Pidggin:


Why are you working for the devil, what is he giving you apart from freedom to pervert sex?
Say the one that masturbate in Jesus name?
Re: Why Do Christians Hate Homosexuals If God Created Them That Way by EyeHateGod: 5:25pm On Sep 03, 2016
Pidggin:


There was a large herd of Pigs near by feeding on the hillside. So the demons begged Jesus to let them go into the Pigs and He let them (Luke 8:32)
Because Ur Bible said so?
Re: Why Do Christians Hate Homosexuals If God Created Them That Way by EyeHateGod: 5:32pm On Sep 03, 2016
Jozzy4:
I don't hate homosexuals , I only hate the act of homosexuality. not the individual.

" if possible, as far as it depends on you, be peaceable with all men " Romans 12:18
Did they bang in Ur house? How should what they do with their dick affect U?

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