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Re: Why Do "Born Again" Christians Still Commit Sin? by Nobody: 7:33am On Sep 04, 2016
Sin Is Inevitable!!! It's Just Grace That We Need
Re: Why Do "Born Again" Christians Still Commit Sin? by Nobody: 7:34am On Sep 04, 2016
This topic should go back to the religious forum!


Our recession neeeds urgent attention
Re: Why Do "Born Again" Christians Still Commit Sin? by frubben(m): 7:34am On Sep 04, 2016
jayloyexten:



A born again Christian can still sin. Yes.
The victory over sin is walking by the spirit, it is hope and faith. And our walk is perfected by reading the word constantly, then we can overcome the flesh.

I advice you read it again dear or send me a message on whatsapp.

Thank you.


Eh bros ooo which one is born again christian.
Born again --- A New convert (1 peter 2:2)
Christian ---- A Disciple (Act 11:26)

so according to this explanation I don't understand your own oooo.
Re: Why Do "Born Again" Christians Still Commit Sin? by eph12(m): 7:35am On Sep 04, 2016
This oaroloye guy is a clown
Re: Why Do "Born Again" Christians Still Commit Sin? by eph12(m): 7:36am On Sep 04, 2016
frubben:



Eh bros ooo which one is born again christian.
Born again --- A New convert (1 peter 2:2)
Christian ---- A Disciple (Act 11:26)

so according to this explanation I don't understand your own oooo.
What about a new convert disciple
Re: Why Do "Born Again" Christians Still Commit Sin? by MichealV(m): 7:36am On Sep 04, 2016
ecclesiastes 7:20 that should answer your question
Re: Why Do "Born Again" Christians Still Commit Sin? by eph12(m): 7:37am On Sep 04, 2016
ZubbyGodson:
Sin Is Inevitable!!! It's Just Grace That We Need
Grace for what?
Re: Why Do "Born Again" Christians Still Commit Sin? by makyegh(m): 7:37am On Sep 04, 2016
jayloyexten:



A born again Christian can still sin. Yes.
The victory over sin is walking by the spirit, it is hope and faith. And our walk is perfected by reading the word constantly, then we can overcome the flesh.

I advice you read it again dear or send me a message on whatsapp.

Thank you.

A born again can sin, yes.
The crux of the matter for me is that, to live above sin is to be spiritually minded as has been stated and to live otherwise is to love in sin. A lot of Christians still struggle with their fleshly desires which are the cause of sin and yet plenty are born again but salvation is for those who endure to the end sha.
Re: Why Do "Born Again" Christians Still Commit Sin? by frubben(m): 7:38am On Sep 04, 2016

1. Jesus Christ is the same yesterday,today and forevermore.
2. Who shall bring a charge against God elect?

Brother,i'm just warning u of the danger ur tongue can put u to. The Bible says "For sin no longer have dominion over you" That means u have the Power to say No to sin! Your flesh no longer have dominion You have the Power to say No to sin!! Old things have passed away,ur old human nature is gone You have the Power to say No to sin!!! But If you as a Christain still commit sin deliberately despite the Holy Spirit speaking loudly to u don't do it,Then there no longer remain a sacrife for sin but the Wrath of God.
Look at me bro, don't come here and say wat pentecostals teach in church about the concept of born again and human nature rather study to show urself approve so u won't be tossed to and fro by every wind of doctrines.
Bros no b fight now calm down explain to am nw
Re: Why Do "Born Again" Christians Still Commit Sin? by frubben(m): 7:40am On Sep 04, 2016
eph12:
What about a new convert disciple
New covert develop into a disciple.
Re: Why Do "Born Again" Christians Still Commit Sin? by cole265(m): 7:41am On Sep 04, 2016
Just reading comments and getting more confused embarassed
Re: Why Do "Born Again" Christians Still Commit Sin? by Ekeeyhandsome(m): 7:43am On Sep 04, 2016
becox sin is the most easiest thing on earth... infact, if committing sin is same as making man would have been richer thn king Solomon....


God save us all...
Re: Why Do "Born Again" Christians Still Commit Sin? by eph12(m): 7:44am On Sep 04, 2016
frubben:

New covert develop into a disciple.

Glad you now understand what born again Christian is cheesy
Re: Why Do "Born Again" Christians Still Commit Sin? by Origin(f): 7:44am On Sep 04, 2016
Sins are what distinguishes men from God. I seriously doubt there is a man alive who has not sinned even if it is in error.

You can never guarantee that any man is less sinful than another. Which is why its best to approach God directly.

Anything that ate, slept , drank, prayed, defecates is human and can never be God. Men can guide you to God, teach you on how to reach God due to their knowledge. No man should ever be given the rights of God.
Re: Why Do "Born Again" Christians Still Commit Sin? by Nobody: 7:45am On Sep 04, 2016
Miles300:
Temption in nigeria is the highest in the world Lol..if person no provoke u ,na to lie or hide wen u get egbese or bribe Nepa wen dem wan cut light , u can add to the list if u concur ..hahaha just kidding tho
kidding you say but it's true, every nigerian is a sinner (bribery) even though they claim to be born again, born again my butt!
they are all hyporcrites!
Re: Why Do "Born Again" Christians Still Commit Sin? by Nobody: 7:48am On Sep 04, 2016
eph12:

Grace for what?
Grace Never To Remain In Sin If We Eventually Fall Into It
Re: Why Do "Born Again" Christians Still Commit Sin? by frubben(m): 7:49am On Sep 04, 2016
eph12:

Glad you now understand what born again Christian is cheesy

Would have said something but let just allow it to die down. Lemme channel my data into better place
Re: Why Do "Born Again" Christians Still Commit Sin? by Nobody: 7:51am On Sep 04, 2016
oaroloye:
SHALOM!



So this is not even original?

You should have been able to improve on anyone else's Message.

Clearly, that is beyond you- that's too bad. But providing the Remedy to such problems is my job.



As soon as I saw what this Nutter opened with, I knew that there is no way that he knows what he is talking about.

It is going to be a crock.

. ROMANS 7:14-25.

14. For we know
that the Law is spiritual:
but I am Carnal,
sold under sin.
15. For that which I do I allow not:
for what I would, that do I not;
but what I hate, that do I.
16. If then I do that which I would not,
I consent unto the Law that it is Good.
17. Now then it is no more I that do it,
but Sin that dwelleth in me.
18. For I know that in me
[that is, in my Flesh,]
dwelleth no good thing:
for to will is present with me;
but how to perform that which is Good
I find not.
19. For the Good that I would I do not:
but the Evil which I would not,
that I do.
20. Now if I do that I would not,
it is no more I that do it,
but Sin that dwelleth in me.
21. I find then a Law, that,
when I would do Good,
Evil is present with me.
22. For I delight in the Law of God
after the Inward Man:
23. But I see another Law in my Members,
warring against the Law of my Mind,
and bringing me into Captivity to the Law of Sin
which is in my Members.
24. O wretched man that I am!
Who shall deliver me
from the Body of this Death?
25. I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
So then with the Mind
I myself serve The Law of God;
but with the Flesh The Law of Sin.


PAUL WAS A LIAR, AND EASILY THE MOST EVIL MAN IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD.

He deliberately destroyed THE GOSPEL by hunting down all of the Jewish Brethren who had seen Yahshua after his Resurrection, bringing them bound to Jerusalem, to face the choice of agreeing to SHUT UP about Yahshua's Teachings, FOR EVER- or else DIE IMMEDIATELY.

Some of them picked "DIE IMMEDIATELY, PLEASE!"

. ACTS 26:8-11.

8. "Why should it be thought a thing incredible with you,
that God should raise the dead?
9. "I verily thought with myself,
that I ought to do many things contrary
to the Name of Jesus of Nazareth.
10. "Which thing I also did in Jerusalem:
and many of the Saints did I shut up in prison,
having received authority from the Chief Priests;
and when they were put to death,
I gave my voice against them.
11. "And I punished them oft in every synagogue,
and compelled them to blaspheme;
and being exceedingly mad against them,
I persecuted them even unto strange cities."


I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT HOW IT WAS FOR THOSE BRETHREN.

They did nothing wrong.

Then along came this... freak, and beat them in the Synagogues, and tied them like ANIMALS, and brought them to Jerusalem, to be KILLED.

I want to to THINK about this... bastard, who was PAID-IN-FULL for EVERY Christian whom he delivered.

I want you to THINK about how he LAUGHED, as he ENJOYED the PROCEEDS of his WICKEDNESS.

. MATTHEW 23:27-33.

27. "Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!
for ye are like unto whited sepulchres,
which indeed appear beautiful outward,
but are within full of dead men's bones,
and of all uncleanness.
28. "Even so ye also outwardly appear Righteous unto men,
but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.
29. "Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites!
because ye build the tombs of the Prophets,
and garnish the sepulchres of the Righteous,
30. "And say,


'IF WE HAD BEEN
IN THE DAYS OF OUR FATHERS,
WE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN
PARTAKERS WITH THEM
IN THE BLOOD OF THE PROPHETS.'


31. "Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves,
that ye are the Children of them which killed the Prophets.
32. "Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.
33. "Ye Serpents, ye Generation of Vipers,
how can ye escape The Damnation of Hell?"


WHAT NOBODY IS TELLING US ABOUT THE PHARISEES, IS THAT THEY MADE A PROFESSION OF ACCUSING FELLOW ISRAELITES OF SIN, AND, IF THEY COULD FIND THEM GUILTY, EXECUTING THEM, THEN SHARING THE STUFF OF THE DECEASED.

The WIDOW of the "Enemy-of-the-State" would be informed that she no longer had her husband's property- and they would VERY PRAYERFULLY, AND PIOUSLY, TAKE THE PROPERTY FROM HER.

That is why Yahshua said that they were FULL of Wickedness!

Where was NO ROOM to INSERT more Wickedness into them!

These people were CRAZY with COVETOUSNESS.

The wish to acquire other people's Property was their motivation.

That was PAUL'S motivation, when he hunted down The first Disciples.

Then he had the temerity to say:

"THE LAW DID THAT TO ME!"

Damn LIAR!

. NUMBERS 15:27-31.

27. "And if any soul sin through ignorance,
then he shall bring a she goat of the first year for a sin offering.
28. "And the Priest shall make an Atonement
for the soul that sinneth ignorantly,
when he sinneth by ignorance before The LORD,
to make an Atonement for him; and it shall be forgiven him.
29. "Ye shall have One Law for him
that sinneth through ignorance,
both for him that is born among The Children of Israel,
and for the Stranger that sojourneth among them.
30. "But the soul that doeth ought presumptuously,
whether he be born in the Land, or a Stranger,
the same reproacheth The LORD;
and that soul shall be cut off from among his people.
31. "Because he hath Despised The Word of The LORD,
and hath Broken His Commandment,
that soul shall utterly be cut off;
his iniquity shall be upon him."


HE SINNED BECAUSE HE DESPISED THE WORD OF THE LAW.

What else do you want to say about it?

. MARK 7:5-13.

5. Then the Pharisees and scribes asked him,
"Why walk not thy Disciples
according to the Tradition of the Elders,
but eat bread with unwashen hands?"
6. He answered and said unto them,
"Well hath Esaias prophesied of you
hypocrites, as it is written,


'THIS PEOPLE HONOURETH ME
WITH THEIR LIPS,
BUT THEIR HEART
IS FAR FROM ME.
7. 'HOWBEIT IN VAIN
DO THEY WORSHIP ME,
TEACHING FOR DOCTRINES
THE COMMANDMENTS OF MEN.'


8. "For laying aside The Commandment of God,
ye hold The Tradition of Men,
as the washing of pots and cups:
and many other such like things ye do."
9. And he said unto them,
"Full well ye reject
The Commandment of God,
that ye may keep your own Tradition.
10. "For Moses said,


'HONOUR THY FATHER AND THY MOTHER;'
AND, 'WHOSO CURSETH FATHER OR MOTHER,
LET HIM DIE THE DEATH:'


11. "But ye say,

'IF A MAN SHALL SAY
TO HIS FATHER OR MOTHER,

"IT IS CORBAN,
THAT IS TO SAY, A GIFT,
BY WHATSOEVER
THOU MIGHTEST BE
PROFITED BY ME;"

HE SHALL BE FREE.'


12. "And ye suffer him
no more to do ought
for his father or his mother;
13. "Making The Word of God
of none effect
through your Tradition,
which ye have delivered:
and many such like things do ye."
14. And when he had called
all the people unto him,
he said unto them,
"Hearken unto me
every one of you,
and understand:
15. "There is nothing from without a man,
that entering into him can defile him:
but the things which come out of him,
those are they that defile the man.
16. "If any man have ears to hear,
let him hear."
17. And when he was entered
into the house from the people,
his Disciples asked him concerning the Parable.
18. And he saith unto them,
"Are ye so without understanding also?
Do ye not perceive, that whatsoever thing
from without entereth into the man,
it cannot defile him;
19. "Because it entereth not into his heart,
but into the belly,
and goeth out into the draught,
purging all meats?"
20 And he said,
"That which cometh out of the man,
that defileth the man.
21. "For from within,
out of the heart of men,
proceed evil thoughts,
adulteries, fornications,
murders,
22. "Thefts, covetousness,
wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness,
an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness:
23. "All these evil things
come from within,
and defile the man."


YAHSHUA PRONOUNCED THE JUDGMENT OF GOD: THAT SIN COMES FROM THE HEART- NOT THE FLESH.

Your Body CANNOT act on its own. YOUR MIND must tell your body what to do.

PAUL LIED: he Sinned because he HATED God and LOVED SATAN.


. MATTHEW 6:19-24.

19. “Lay not up for yourselves Treasures upon Earth,
where moth and rust doth corrupt,
and where thieves break through and steal:
20. “But lay up for yourselves Treasures in Heaven,
where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt,
and where thieves do not break through nor steal:
21. “For where your Treasure is,
there will your heart be also.
22. "The Light of the body is the Eye:
if therefore thine Eye be single,
thy whole body shall be full of Light.
23. "But if thine eye be evil,
thy whole body shall be full of Darkness.
If therefore the Light that is in thee be Darkness,
how great is that Darkness!
24. "No man can serve two masters:
for either he will hate the one, and love the other;
or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other.
Ye cannot serve God and mammon."


PAUL SAID THAT HE SERVED TWO MASTERS- ONE WITH HIS BODY, THE OTHER WITH HIS MIND.

Yahshua said that there is no such thing.

WHOM DO YOU BELIEVE?

You have three choices- all of them had better be YAHSHUA, YAHSHUA, and YAHSHUA!



PAUL NEVER HAD VICTORY OVER SIN HIS WHOLE LIFE.

So why are you following HIM?

THAT is why you have never found the SIMPLE Solution.



This is mere rambling and time-wasting.

Get to THE POINT!

. JOHN 8:30-32.

30. As he spake these Words,
many believed on him.
31. Then said Jesus to those Jews
which believed on him,
"If ye continue in my Word,
then are ye my Disciples indeed;
32. "And ye shall know The Truth,
and The Truth shall make you Free."




WHOM DID YOU HEAR THAT FROM?

When you trace the Origins of Stupid Doctrines, you find that they originate in LIES.

How do you define "SALVATION?"



THAT IS A COMPLETE LIE.

WHO told you that PETER was EVER "BORN AGAIN?"

There is NO EVIDENCE that Peter was EVER Born Again!

. LUKE 22:31-32.

31. And the Lord said,
"Simon, Simon, behold,


'SATAN HATH DESIRED TO HAVE YOU,
THAT HE MAY SIFT YOU AS WHEAT:'


32. "But I have prayed for thee,
that thy Faith fail not:
and when thou art converted,
strengthen thy Brethren."


PETER FOLLOWED YAHSHUA FOR THREE YEARS- YET, YAHSHUA TOLD HIM- HE WAS NOT YET CONVERTED.

CONVERSION is a very big deal!



You must be talking about the time when PAUL pretended not to know who the High Priest was.

. ACTS 23:1-6.

AND Paul, earnestly beholding the Council, said,
“Men and Brethren, I have lived in all good conscience
before God until this day.
2. And the High Priest Ananias commanded
them that stood by him to smite him on the mouth.
3. Then said Paul unto him,
“God shall smite thee, thou whited wall:
for sittest thou to judge me after The Law,
and commandest me to be smitten
contrary to The Law?”
4. And they that stood by said,
“Revilest thou God's High Priest?”
5. Then said Paul,
“I wist not, Brethren,
that he was the High Priest:
for it is written,


'THOU SHALT NOT SPEAK EVIL
OF THE RULER OF THY PEOPLE.'


6. But when Paul perceived
that the one part were Sadducees,
and the other Pharisees,
he cried out in the council,
"Men and Brethren, I am a Pharisee,
the son of a Pharisee:
of the Hope and Resurrection of the Dead
I am called in question."


PAUL HAD GROWN UP A SON OF A PHARISEE, AND TAUGHT BY GAMALIEL.

It is UNBELIEVABLE that he no know who the High Priest was.

The High Priest, too was PRETENDING NOT TO KNOW PAUL- HIS BEST BOUNTY-HUNTER!

This Event is consistent with Paul being a Secret Undercover Agent of The Pharisees- the Sadducees not being privy to his mission.

He now gave a signal, that he was in place, and the plan was proceeding smoothly.

The Signal appears to be that he should pretend not to recognize the High Priest, as they all pretended not to know the Prophets of God- JOHN and YAHSHUA.



This is not for Paul to say.

So because PETER had preached to some Gentiles, he could no longer sit with his Jewish Brethren again?

That was grandstanding on the part of Paul.



I shall be back to finish shortly.
You just confused Sabina

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Re: Why Do "Born Again" Christians Still Commit Sin? by aragon4realz(m): 7:52am On Sep 04, 2016
jayloyexten:



A born again Christian can still sin. Yes.
The victory over sin is walking by the spirit, it is hope and faith. And our walk is perfected by reading the word constantly, then we can overcome the flesh.

I advice you read it again dear or send me a message on whatsapp.

Thank you.
I smell a Jesus disciple fellowship member...just tell me that am right
Re: Why Do "Born Again" Christians Still Commit Sin? by dueal(m): 7:52am On Sep 04, 2016
You might wonder why it seems people don't change there ways totally. Remember, even before the coming of the Son of God the people committed sin and had a requirement to make sacrifice to the forgiveness of sin with lambs, doves and incense at a certain season and time.

So also past believers tried to compare that with the Lamb of God and asked if they will make similar with the new gospel.

Paul explains:
Heb 9:24 For Christ has not entered the holy places made with hands, which are copies of the true, but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us; Heb 9:25 not that He should offer Himself often, as the high priest enters the Most Holy Place every year with blood of another--
Heb 9:26 He then would have had to suffer often since the foundation of the world; but now, once at the end of the ages, He has appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself.
Heb 9:27 And as it is appointed for men to die once, but after this the judgment, so Christ was offered once to bear the sins of many. To those who eagerly wait for Him He will appear a second time, apart from sin, for salvation.

Our gospel has been tainted by our forebears because most could not accept the simplicity of it. That is why I advice u not just read scripture by verses but by each book to get the message lost.

I pray Eph 1:17 that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give to you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of Him, making the eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that you may know what is the hope of His calling, what are the riches of the glory of His inheritance in the saints,
Re: Why Do "Born Again" Christians Still Commit Sin? by Nobody: 7:52am On Sep 04, 2016
frubben:

Bros no b fight now calm down explain to am nw
i wonder o! this is why i do not go to church humans like me trying to make themselves appear more righteous by judging and crucifying me with their so called wrath of God.
this sort of people already believe the will go to heaven by shoving their believes down ones throat. they are all hyporcrites!
Re: Why Do "Born Again" Christians Still Commit Sin? by goshen26: 7:53am On Sep 04, 2016
Nice Topic

To me
1..it is because the more u close to God the greater the challenges that can pull u back from God. The devil believe that ur level in God determine how bright the expected crown if glory seem b4 u, as u walk with God daily u see the crown of glory brighter than someone whose level in God is lower sees his own. Also the devil believe that an 80% level christian will fall to 40 or 30% level, and such christian will need twice the energy he used in getting to 80% at first to reach 80% again. The more reason why it is not difficult for a newly born again christian to grow at great pace than a backslided christian.. A newly born again christian takes every instruction given to him/her to grow, while a backslided one will still be dwelling on his past glory, u give him instruction he will smile and say I kno about that already...




[/b]2. God often use burning bush to explain[b] if u r passing thru a chronic sin in ur life, God want to drive out a bush that will not get burnt from u, so u can attract sinners when u finally overcome the particular sin. If there was no something spectacular about the burning bush Moses will not turn to look, he turned cos [/b] bush was burning and it does not consume[b] so that particular sin in ur life will not kill u, it will attract people to learn from u...

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Re: Why Do "Born Again" Christians Still Commit Sin? by free2ryhme: 7:56am On Sep 04, 2016
because it is blood that runs through their veins and they are human
Re: Why Do "Born Again" Christians Still Commit Sin? by kindredspirit(m): 7:57am On Sep 04, 2016
Is Being "Born Again" tantamount to having Salvation or being Saved? How can one be Born again and still Sin? Sounds contradictory, dosent it?
How then is the person Born Again? What's the difference?

If one was Born Again and still sins, doesn't it mean that they aren't actually Born Again ? Ipso facto, doesn't it mean the person isn't saved ? Let's say the "Trumpets sounds " today, would the person be saved, considering that they still sin despite being born again ??

Or could it be that the "Born Again" situation is that condition of the heart where an individual's conscience comes alive and they attain a consciousness of constantly watching their conduct , always reverts to God in prayer to seek forgiveness whenever they commit some sin ?

Give or take, it is sounding more to me that this widely bandied view of "being born again and still sin" is abusing the Grace so people can continue to live in sin while basking in the glorious delusion of being "born again and saved".
Re: Why Do "Born Again" Christians Still Commit Sin? by frubben(m): 8:00am On Sep 04, 2016
gypsey:
i wonder o! this is why i do not go to church humans like me trying to make themselves appear more righteous by judging and crucifying me with their so called wrath of God.
this sort of people already believe the will go to heaven by shoving their believes down ones throat. they are all hyporcrites!

Welcome to the club bro, these set of people are called religious folks, dey go to church to look holy and sound intelligent.
Re: Why Do "Born Again" Christians Still Commit Sin? by eph12(m): 8:01am On Sep 04, 2016
frubben:


Would have said something but let just allow it to die down. Lemme channel my data into better place
You should know a joke when you see one
Re: Why Do "Born Again" Christians Still Commit Sin? by Nobody: 8:03am On Sep 04, 2016
thrillionaire:
Well, I think its because they've not renewed their minds properly with the help of the holy spirit
even Jesus said he is not perfect he said only God is perfect, human beings are claiming God? No human being is perfect, even kumuyi
Re: Why Do "Born Again" Christians Still Commit Sin? by Nobody: 8:04am On Sep 04, 2016
Well, I honestly do love this and fully understand what the OP has written. But may I add also...



When micro organisms are transferred from their natural habitat to a medium culture, it is for the purpose of isolation and identification. The culture medium contains their necessary nutritional requirement for growth and reproduction. At the first instance, the micro organism adapts to its new environment at which its growth is slow. After this, it goes into its exponential phase where its growth and reproduction is most active and rapid.

Accepting Jesus as your personal Lord and Saviour takes you from your natural habitat (the world) to your spiritual habitat (the kingdom of God), which is your culture medium. Your ability to adapt to your new environment is by the spirit of adoption, Holy spirit (Rom 8:15). The kingdom of God has all the necessary nutritional requirement for your spiritual growth. One thing with growth factors is that they are substances required for growth and can not be synthesized by the organism. It is in God that you receive your growth requirement, you can't get it by yourself. The Holy spirit takes you to your exponential phase when you yield to Him. At this point, your spiritual growth and reproduction, which is your multiplication is very active and rapid. The evidence of your spiritual growth are the fruits you bear. We are being isolated and identified with Christ. You must first be isolated from the world before you can be identified with christ.

Don't worry if your spiritual growth seems to be slow or even stagnant. In fact, we are commanded not to worry (Phil 4:6-7, Matt 6:25_34). You are a work-in-progress, just yield yourself and surrender completely to Him. Matt 16:24 says; then Jesus said to His disciples if any one wishes to come after me,he must first deny himself, and take up his cross and follow me. He has given us the power to choose, He works with what we choose. Do you desire to follow Him but still holding back to yourself, to that which is not? Mark 10:28; Peter began to say to Him, "Behold, we have left everything and followed You". All you basically have to do is to surrender and follow him.

Be the clay and let Him mould you, be the vessel and let Him fill you, be the light and let Him be your source of power. Be the carrier of His presence.

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Re: Why Do "Born Again" Christians Still Commit Sin? by eph12(m): 8:05am On Sep 04, 2016
ZubbyGodson:
Grace Never To Remain In Sin If We Eventually Fall Into It
Guess the grace does not work then.
Re: Why Do "Born Again" Christians Still Commit Sin? by dueal(m): 8:06am On Sep 04, 2016
kindredspirit:
Is Being "Born Again" tantamount to having Salvation or being Saved? How can one be Born again and still Sin? Sounds contradictory, dosent it?
How then is the person Born Again? What's the difference?

If one was Born Again and still sins, doesn't it mean that they aren't actually Born Again ? Ipso facto, doesn't it mean the person isn't saved ? Let's say the "Trumpets sounds " today, would the person be saved, considering that they still sin despite being born again ??

Or could it be that the "Born Again" situation is that condition of the heart where an individual's conscience comes alive and they attain a consciousness of constantly watching their conduct , always reverts to God in prayer to seek forgiveness whenever they commit some sin ?

Give or take, it is sounding more to me that this widely bandied view of "being born again and still sin" is abusing the Grace so people can continue to live in sin while basking in the glorious delusion of being "born again and saved".

Please take time to find;
1: What Jesus said about How one becomes born again.

2: How sin was handled before Christ.

3: What grace is, what the law is.

4: Read all of the book of Romans, especially continuing from where is says: Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound.
Re: Why Do "Born Again" Christians Still Commit Sin? by dueal(m): 8:09am On Sep 04, 2016
Oliviaarims:
Well, I honestly do love this and fully understand what the OP has written. But may I add also...



When micro organisms are transferred from their natural habitat to a medium culture, it is for the purpose of isolation and identification. The culture medium contains their necessary nutritional requirement for growth and reproduction. At the first instance, the micro organism adapts to its new environment at which its growth is slow. After this, it goes into its exponential phase where its growth and reproduction is most active and rapid.

Accepting Jesus as your personal Lord and Saviour takes you from your natural habitat (the world) to your spiritual habitat (the kingdom of God), which is your culture medium. Your ability to adapt to your new environment is by the spirit of adoption, Holy spirit (Rom 8:15). The kingdom of God has all the necessary nutritional requirement for your spiritual growth. One thing with growth factors is that they are substances required for growth and can not be synthesized by the organism. It is in God that you receive your growth requirement, you can't get it by yourself. The Holy spirit takes you to your exponential phase when you yield to Him. At this point, your spiritual growth and reproduction, which is your multiplication is very active and rapid. The evidence of your spiritual growth are the fruits you bear. We are being isolated and identified with Christ. You must first be isolated from the world before you can be identified with christ.

Don't worry if your spiritual growth seems to be slow or even stagnant. In fact, we are commanded not to worry (Phil 4:6-7, Matt 6:25_34). You are a work-in-progress, just yield yourself and surrender completely to Him. Matt 16:24 says; then Jesus said to His disciples if any one wishes to come after me,he must first deny himself, and take up his cross and follow me. He has given us the power to choose, He works with what we choose. Do you desire to follow Him but still holding back to yourself, to that which is not? Mark 10:28; Peter began to say to Him, "Behold, we have left everything and followed You". All you basically have to do is to surrender and follow him.

Be the clay and let Him mould you, be the vessel and let Him fill you, be the light and let Him be your source of power. Be the carrier of His presence.

Where is the Kingdom of God?
Re: Why Do "Born Again" Christians Still Commit Sin? by Harkindeylee(m): 8:09am On Sep 04, 2016
this is the kinda write-up i love reading.. God bless you.

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